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Obama Announces His New Energy Plan

By Kate Sheppard, Grist.org. Posted August 4, 2008.


In a speech today, Obama spoke about more drilling in exchange for comprehensive energy legislation and his own plan to mandate more renewable energy.

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Democrat Barack Obama on Friday said he would be willing to support some offshore drilling if it were necessary to enact a comprehensive energy plan, and indicated that he could support the bipartisan energy plan put forward by the Senate's "Gang of 10" that includes both drilling and a major investment in renewables.

The shift on drilling drew a lot of heat over the weekend, as pundits accused the candidate of flip-flopping on the issue, though Obama says he still doesn't actively support opening up more areas for leasing as a solution to energy concerns.

"My interest is in making sure we've got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices," said Obama, noting that he remains skeptical that drilling would provide much, if any, relief on gas prices.

"We can't drill our way out of the problem," he said. But, he continued, "I also recognize that in the House and the Senate, there are Republicans who have very clear ideas about what they want, and at some point people are going to have to make some decisions. Do we want to keep on arguing, or are we going to get some things done?"

In a speech in Lansing, Mich., this morning, Obama clarified his position on the issue. "While I still don't believe that's a particularly meaningful short-term or long-term solution, I am willing to consider it if it's necessary to actually pass a comprehensive plan," he told the crowd. "I am not interested in making the perfect the enemy of the good -- particularly since there is so much good in this compromise that would actually reduce our dependence on foreign oil."

Obama said his energy plan would include a "use it or lose it" approach to oil leases, requiring oil companies to develop the 68 million acres already under lease, or be forced to turn the leases over to another company. But he emphasized that more drilling won't affect the price of gas significantly, while continued addiction to foreign oil puts the country in peril from an economic, environmental, and national security perspective.

"This addiction is one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced -- from the gas prices that are wiping out your paychecks and straining businesses to the jobs that are disappearing from this state; from the instability and terror bred in the Middle East to the rising oceans and record drought and spreading famine that could engulf our planet," he said.

One new item in Obama's energy plan is a call for the release of a portion of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in order to cut prices, a move that some Democrats in Congress have been calling for as well. Campaign energy policy director Heather Zichal said that this isn't a complete reversal of his previous position, though just a few weeks ago Obama said he did not support releasing oil from the reserve. She said his proposal would swap out light crude from the reserve for heavy crude, and is necessary in an energy crisis. "Senator Obama has looked at this issue and he realizes Americans are suffering and he made the distinction that we do need to tap the strategic energy reserve," said Zichal, according to The Wall Street Journal.

In his speech today, Obama also touted his plan to issue an energy rebate to help deal with high gas prices. Families would receive a $1,000 rebate, and individuals would receive one for $500. His plan would use the proceeds of a windfall-profits tax on oil companies to fund his "Emergency Energy Rebate."Obama also called for efficiency improvements to reduce the country's use of oil by the amount we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela. He proposed higher fuel efficiency standards for automobiles, calling for 1 million plug-in hybrid cars to be on the road by 2015, and for a $7,000 tax credit for consumers who buy those vehicles. He said he plans to create 5 million new, green jobs through $150 billion in investments in clean energy and job training over the next decade.

He also pledged to adopt a "Renewable Portfolio Standard," mandating that 10 percent of the nation's electricity supply comes from renewables by 2012, and 25 percent by 2025, which he said would help spur jobs and bring new energy sources to the market.

"I will not pretend the goals I laid out today aren't ambitious. They are. I will not pretend we can achieve them without cost, or without sacrifice, or without the contribution of almost every American citizen," said Obama. "But I will say that these goals are possible. And I will say that achieving them is absolutely necessary if we want to keep America safe and prosperous in the 21st century."

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Just what we needed to hear -- with one exception.
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 4, 2008 11:31 AM   
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After listening to Obama's speech, I thought he hit all the right notes except one.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't think he called for a 55-mph national speed limit to help conserve fuel, which GOP Senator John Warner wants Congress to consider.

Unfortunately, American drivers would rather continue making Arabs rich than slow down and save gas.

Our selfish stupidity reminds me of the monkey trap I read about in India. To catch gibbons, merchants use a narrow-necked glass jar with a banana inside, tied to a post. It works because gibbons will grab the banana and never let go, even though they can pull their empty hands free and escape.

For American drivers, gasoline is like the banana. They won't let go, even it means running out of petrol as fast as they can.

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I heart Obama
Posted by: BreeMass on Aug 4, 2008 11:37 AM   
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I know people are going to get all pissed because he's "giving in" to the Repubs, and he'll get nailed by the right for supposedly flip-flopping, but he's right on the money. The idea that he is willing to entertain compromise as long as it moves us in the right direction is a sign of true leadership, sonething this country hasn't had enough of in a long while. In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to even entertain the idea of drilling and we'd go completely green and stop global warming in it's tracks. But a perfect world this ain't and this sort of compromise and bipartisanship is necessary to at least get started down the road we have been hitherto unable to even locate.

The fact that he is willing to follow and issue, gather more information and change his mind or revise his opinion, shows that he - gasp! - actually thinks about his positions and is willing to revise them if they don't work or are proving insufficient.

Keep at it Barack - can't wait to see you in the White House!

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Does Obama's plan include the following?
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 4, 2008 12:30 PM   
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1. End the phoney "War on Drugs" and allow hemp to compete with petroleum on the market.

2. Do a MAJOR reform on those zoning laws that stop certain homeowners from putting solar panals and/or wind turbines on their roofs not to mention allowing people the freedom to choose between using a clothes line to save electricity vs wasting it via inefficient laundry washers/dryers.

3. Promise that he won't pull another "Clinton" and keep cutting funding for public transportation. We're gonna need plenty of years to get our public transportation infrastructure anywhere close to Europe's let alone better.

4. Stop giving tax breaks to gas guzzlers and force a limit on Big Auto's over-commercialization and make them come clean on their MISleading advertisenments.

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Obama's Conservative and Inadequate Energy Policy
Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Aug 4, 2008 12:33 PM   
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Obama's clearly interested in demonatrating to the American people that he will turn the corner on the energy crisis by advocating real change. Unfortunately, his energy program has another agenda and that is to protect the interests of the oil and coal industries.

His plan to use some offshore drilling will have no real impact on either the supply or cost of oil while at thye same time ignoring the essential principle that the best way to solve the fossil fuel problem is to leave it in the ground. It will take ten years for that oil to come on line and it would account for less than .2% of world production. As well, he is making an unrealistic assumption that the first priority of the oil companies that produce the oil will be to sell it to the United States. The oil will belong to the companies and their one and only mandate is to maximize profits and if that means selling elsewhere, they will.

Obama then promises to mandate the production of one million plug-in vehicles by 2012. According to David Morris, in "Electric Cars Are the Key to Energy Independence" (AlterNet August 4, 2008), new electric vehicles could completely replace gasoline vehicles in less than a decade. Given these facts, Obama's proposal is very modest and conservative.

His promise to switch to a low emission coal standard entirely overlooks the realities of low emission coal. The environmental impact of clean coal is very dirty polluting the environment with mercury and creating the problem of how to store the extracted CO2.

His talk about the next generation of biofuels begs the question of how he will produce biofuels that do not reduce food stocks and deplete the world's supply of clean water.

Obama also fails to address the problem of public transportation and fails to provide any specifics about alternate forms of energy.

On the surface, Obama's program sounds innovative and balanced but the only thing he is trying to balance is his cheque book. Don't forget that his donors from the energy sector have been very energtic.

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Do we ever learn
Posted by: carbon-based on Aug 4, 2008 1:14 PM   
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I agreed with Obama on this.. I'm not for more drilling, especially in sensitive areas but just the announcement of it by Bush brought prices down.

It's not an endless supply, drive less and be more economical and it will make a big difference.. Only problem is once the price comes down, usage will go up.

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Good news on the research front!
Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 4, 2008 1:54 PM   
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Just a couple of days ago, the MIT Energy Initiative broke the story that they have achieved a big success in the STORAGE of solar energy. For obvious reasons, solar and wind are not constant sources of energy, and so energy storage is a big hurdle. How to store the "extra" energy created during the day, for use at night? Daniel Nocera thinks he has some answers.

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Opening up the strategic petroleum reserve!!!
Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Aug 4, 2008 1:55 PM   
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What a panderer.

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The American Right Always Controls the Dialogue....
Posted by: CatDad on Aug 4, 2008 2:37 PM   
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....and centrist Democrats invariably cave-in...setting themselves up as being "flip floppers" in elections.

Of course, there's little or no talk about mandating higher energy standards as a solution....that would involve using less fuel and therefore less profits for American and Saudi plutocrats.

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We Need to Declare an Energy Emergency ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Aug 4, 2008 2:45 PM   
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We have reached peak oil. Crude production has stagnated over these last three years and the relentless pain of ever dwindling crude oil supplies and ever increasing crude prices will crash our economy and implode our fractional reserve banking system.

We need to move to Electric Vehicles and completely renovate and enlarge our electric grid. Without this, gas prices kill our economy.

We need to Establish a Public Central Bank that creates money without debt and arbitrates credit. We will never get out of geometric debt accumulation and the subsequent financial crashes that will accompany them until we can create currency without debt. A Public Central Bank will also profit hundreds of billions if not over a trillion a year for social and economic programs that will ease the transition from oil.

Obama's plan is far short of the comprehensive plan we need to ensure our transportation needs and ensure against the financial chaos that will ensue with fractional reserve banking.

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At least he's got a plan!
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 4, 2008 3:14 PM   
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For all of the spin that McCain has given - he doesn't have a concrete plan. I'm tired of the MSM giving passes and yet they blast at least the beginnings of a plan from Obama.

Exactly what is it that we should do, wait until we are all walking around in gas masks, wait until we are so far past the point of no return. I'm glad that someone running for the highest office of this country not only has a clue, but a plan to help us extricate ourselves from this nightmare that we are going into.

The fact that he is willing to compromise shows leadership, that fact that he just might have a plan shows forward thinking. Whew, just when I was thinking that all we could get from politics was a "Manchurian Candidate"!

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Compare and Contrast
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM   
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Good god. Disparaging Obama's plan.

Tsk. Tsk.

Just look at what McCain has proposed. He gives total lip service to alt fuels and energy sources. He gave a speech in front of dozens of oil company execs and garnered a fat $1,000,000 in donations from them.

You know why.

McCain has loudly and clearly proclamed: DRILL, DRILL, DRILL when it is abundantly clear we have only 3% of the world's oil reserves, and we will not see a drop of it for a decade or LONGER. McCain knows that. And, he is absolutely clear drilling is a psychological cure, not a sustainable one. He's stated that in his own words.

Now, look at Obama's plan - which is heavily leaning toward a Manhattanesque project to catapult us into the 21st century, complete with new jobs for a new industry. He talks about oil becuase for the short run we will have no choice but to rely on what's there right this minute. You can call it caving, but I call it reality. Plus, he knows he has to speak politically because he knows who's listening.

McCain's plan will NOT rely on alternatives. He has consistently nixed all funds to provide that industry with the jump start it needs. Consistently. Without fail. His plan will rely on precisely the same mix we have right this second. And he wants war. He is nearly apoplectic with glee just thinking about how he's gonna be the next War President. He's going to get his war(s) because the only place to get abundant oil is in the Middle East.

Compare and contrast. It's a simply pre-first grade concept.

Or you can continue to disparage Obama's plan.

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Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley Obama's biggest bundle contributors..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 PM   
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Why won't Obama tell the truth we must stop the Market Manipulation of the Commodities and Futures market that is responsible for the doubling of the Oil Prices...

Is it because he has taken so much money from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley two of the biggest players in this market manipulation and Oil Speculation..?

Does Obama want to lower Oil and Gas Prices if so then address the Enron, London and Goldman Sachs Loopholes and get these markets back under regulation..!

Goldman Sachs is the largest bundler of campaign donations to Obama..

Over $620,000.00 Morgan Stanley so far over $250,000.00..

Go to Open Secrets.org to get the list of Obama's biggest contributors..same for McCain..



Barack we want regulation of these criminally manipulated markets and an end to this criminal gouging of the American people..!

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We dont need to drill of CA or ALaska
Posted by: puush on Aug 4, 2008 6:32 PM   
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We already have technology to increase mpg with our current vehicles. Maybe one of you experts can figure a way to make a car run totally on water. Of course you republicans will debate this even though their is proof. Before you right wing bastards bash me please read the docs below.

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The kit includes detailed installation/troubleshooting guide plus email tech support from me.

Please don't fall victim to,"Contempt prior to investigation". Peace...


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Is this new oil
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Aug 4, 2008 9:22 PM   
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going to be used here in the US, or is it going to get shipped and sold overseas?

jdfu!

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Obama, Pickens, and McCain Plans Falls Short
Posted by: methomas on Aug 4, 2008 9:39 PM   
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Earth base solar and wind power cannot produce energy to keep up with exponenial energy demand.

The worse part about it is Earth based wind and solar will do alot of damage to the environment.

We need Space-based Microwave Power.

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Who is killing the economy?
Posted by: ranger1 on Aug 5, 2008 5:30 AM   
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Obama is kidding us if he thinks it's just the price of oil. Our overall wages have stagnated in relation to a true inflation rate of 7-9% annually due to a modified consumer price index made to hide this rate.

The "Federal" Reserve controlled by the major financial banking establishments both here and abroad have printed money to the point where our dollar is worth 50% less than when George first started his term. They want our jobs overseas and a worthless currency so money can be churned in from overseas to buy our industries and whats left of the services sector and no matter how the economy will run they will get their cut.

The military is the most bloated, oil wasting sector of our economy tied in with big oil...as long as we project power overseas the oil consumed by this behemoth is going to increase.

Give us a break Obama and quit being such a corporatist suck up.

And the rest of you out there looking for someone to come and save you it's not going to happen. If you want Obama to be a true progressive then ask that he actually debates all the presidential candidates Barr. Nader, ....

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If He Leans Any More To The Right...
Posted by: cherylholmes on Aug 5, 2008 6:49 AM   
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he'll fall over...None of these guys are worth voting for. They're all the same. Even Barack Osame "a".

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bring down gas prices???
Posted by: toddcory on Aug 5, 2008 8:23 AM   
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Really? Bring DOWN gasoline prices? The higher they go, the sooner people will make the transition to being more efficient and conserving more. Making energy cheaper will only perpetuate the problems we must face.

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Lets hope the market provides some leadership...
Posted by: fpoober on Aug 5, 2008 12:14 PM   
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...because our leaders aren't. Even Obama. As alternative energy becomes more commercially viable because hydrocarbon energy becomes more expensive and through advances of technology maybe some movement will occur away from the status quo as new players emerge. If our leaders had vision and hutspa then the progression could be accelerated. But sadly unlikely.

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Remote work programs need to be part of energy policy
Posted by: aullman on Aug 9, 2008 10:42 PM   
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Any energy plan that does not provide a way to cut back on consumption is going to have only a limited impact on the price of oil. The simplest way to cut back on oil consumption is to implement programs which support remote work environments for office workers around the country (especially in large cities with commuter congestion problems). In the past, home telecommuting was the only option for working remotely.

There are other options these days. Remote Office Centers lease individual offices, internet and phone systems to workers from multiple companies in shared centers located around the city and in the suburbs.

Every worker who is able to work remotely is able to save on all of the fuel that is normally used to get to work and back each day. There is a benefit to workers who need to be onsite, since roadways would be less congested and there would be a lower demand for oil, which would cause the price to drop off.

Working remotely may not sound glamorous or high-tech, but it is hard to argue with the savings. After all, a car that drives 2 miles a day is going to use less gas than even the most efficient hybrid that has to travel 50 miles a day.

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The one thing that can save the world from economic disaster
Posted by: swansend on Aug 12, 2008 12:26 PM   
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Compiled from Jack Herer.com
Fuel:

* Farming 6% of the continental U.S. acreage with biomass crops would provide all of America's energy needs. 1
* Hemp is Earth's number-one biomass resource; it is capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months. 1
* Biomass can be converted to methane, methanol, or gasoline at a cost comparable to petroleum, and hemp is much better for the environment. Pyrolysis (charcoalizing), or biochemical composting are two methods of turning hemp into fuel.2
* Hemp can produce 10 times more methanol than corn.
* Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution.
* The use of hemp fuel does not contribute to global warming.

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Food:

* Hemp seed can be pressed into a nutritious oil, which contains the highest amount of fatty acids in the plant kingdom. Essential oils are responsible for our immune system responses, and clear the arteries of cholesterol and plaque.2
* The byproduct of pressing the oil from hemp seed is high quality protein seed cake. It can be sprouted (malted) or ground and baked into cakes, breads, and casseroles. Hemp seed protein is one of mankind's finest, most complete and available-to-the-body vegetable proteins. 2
* Hemp seed was the world's number one wild and domestic bird seed until the 1937 Marijuana prohibition law. Four million pounds of hemp seed for songbirds were sold at retail in the U.S. in 1937. Birds will pick hemp seeds out and eat them first from a pile of mixed seed. Birds in the wild live longer and breed more with hemp seed in their diet, using the oil for the feathers and their overall health. 2

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Fiber:

* Hemp is the oldest cultivated fiber plant in the world.
* Low-THC fiber hemp varieties developed by the French and others have been available for over 20 years. It is impossible to get high from fiber hemp. Over 600,000 acres of hemp is grown worldwide with no drug misuse problem.
* One acre of hemp can produce as much usable fiber as 4 acres of trees or two acres of cotton.
* Trees cut down to make paper take 50 to 500 years to grow, while hemp can be cultivated in as little as 100 days and can yield 4 times more paper over a 20 year period.
* Until 1883, from 75-90% of all paper in the world was made with cannabis hemp fiber including that for books, Bibles, maps, paper money, stocks and bonds, newspapers, etc. 2
* Hemp paper is longer lasting than wood pulp, stronger, acid-free, and chlorine free. (Chlorine is estimated to cause up to 10% of all Cancers.) 2
* Hemp paper can be recycled 7 times, wood pulp 4 times.
* If the hemp pulp paper process reported by the USDA in 1916, were legal today it would soon replace 70% of all wood paper products. 2
* Rag paper containing hemp fiber is the highest quality and longest lasting paper ever made. It can be torn when wet, but returns to its full strength when dry. Barring extreme conditions, rag paper remains stable for centuries. 2
* Hemp particle board may be up to 2 times stronger than wood particleboard and holds nails better.
* Hemp is softer, warmer, more water absorbent, has three times the tensile strength, and is many times more durable than cotton. Hemp production uses less chemicals than cotton. 2
* From 70-90% of all rope, twine, and cordage was made from hemp until 1937. 2
* A strong lustrous fiber; hemp withstands heat, mildew, insects, and is not damaged by light. Oil paintings on hemp and/or flax canvas have stayed in fine condition for centuries. 2

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And avoid all world wars! Hemp 4 Victory
Posted by: swansend on Aug 12, 2008 12:44 PM   
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Medicine:

* Deaths from marijuana use: 0
* From 1842 through the 1880s, extremely strong marijuana (then known as cannabis extractums), hashish extracts, tinctures, and elixirs were routinely the second and third most-used medicines in America for humans (from birth through old age). These extracts were also used in veterinary medicine until the 1920s and longer. 2
* For at least 3,000 years prior to 1842 widely varying marijuana extracts (bud, leaves, roots, etc.) were the most commonly used real medicines in the world for the majority of mankind's illnesses. 2
* The U.S. Pharmacopoeia indicated cannabis should be used for treating such ailments as fatigue, fits of coughing, rheumatism, asthma, delirium tremens, migraine headaches, and the cramps and depressions associated with menstruation. 3
* In this century, cannabis research has demonstrated therapeutic value and complete safety in the treatment of many health problems including asthma, glaucoma, nausea, tumors, epilepsy, infection, stress, migraines, anorexia, depression, rheumatism, arthritis, and possibly herpes. 3
* Deaths from aspirin (U.S. per year): 180 - 1,000 +
* Deaths from legal drugs (U.S. per year) at doses used for prevention, diagnosis, or therapy: 106,000

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Industry:

* Almost any product that can be made from wood, cotton, or petroleum (including plastics) can be made from hemp. There are more than 25,000 known uses for hemp.
* For thousands of years virtually all good paints and varnishes were made with hemp seed oil and/or linseed oil. 2
* Hemp stems are 80% hurds (pulp by-product after the hemp fiber is removed from the plant). Hemp hurds are 77% cellulose - a primary chemical feed stock (industrial raw material) used in the production of chemicals, plastics, and fibers. Depending on which U.S. agricultural report is correct, an acre of full grown hemp plants can sustainably provide from four to 50 or even 100 times the cellulose found in cornstalks, kenaf, or sugar cane (the planet's next highest annual cellulose plants). 2
* One acre of hemp produces as much cellulose fiber pulp as 4.1 acres of trees, making hemp a perfect material to replace trees for pressed board, particle board, and concrete construction molds. 2
* Heating and compressing plant fibers can create practical, inexpensive, fire-resistant construction materials with excellent thermal and sound-insulating qualities. These strong plant fiber construction materials could replace dry wall and wood paneling. William B. Conde of Conde's Redwood Lumber, Inc. near Eugene, Oregon, in conjunction with Washington State University (1991-1993), has demonstrated the superior strength, flexibility, and economy of hemp composite building materials compared to wood fiber, even as beams. 2
* Isochanvre, a rediscovered French building material made from hemp hurds mixed with lime petrifies into a mineral state and lasts for many centuries. Archeologists have found a bridge in the south of France from the Merovingian period (500-751 A.D.), built with this process. 2
* Hemp has been used throughout history for carpet backing. Hemp fiber has potential in the manufacture of strong, rot resistant carpeting - eliminating the poisonous fumes of burning synthetic materials in a house or commercial fire, along with allergic reactions associated with new synthetic carpeting. 2
* Plastic plumbing pipe (PVC pipes) can be manufactured using renewable hemp cellulose as the chemical feed stocks, replacing non-renewable coal or petroleum based chemical feed stocks. 2
* In 1941 Henry Ford built a plastic car made of fiber from hemp and wheat straw. Hemp plastic is biodegradable, synthetic plastic is not.

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Neither candidate knows what energy is.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Aug 26, 2008 6:29 PM   
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Neither Obama nor McSame know anything about energy. Their
so-called "plans" are nothing more than restatement of the popular
but mistaken notions of their constituents. Their plans concern
the near-irrelevant. They concentrate on cars and fuel for cars, as
if the price of gasoline was the heart of the crisis. In the end, the
price of gasoline is all but irrelevant. It is burning coal to make
electricity that is the largest single source of the CO2 that is
causing the global warming that can and will make us extinct.

methomas almost has it right. Solar power satellites can indeed
capture enough power from sunlight. The problem is getting the
power down to earth safely and without loosing almost all of it.
The problem is solved if the power is used in space, and that
requires that most people live in space.

Reference the NASA document at: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/
Newsroom/NewImages/
images.php3?img_id=18090
"Wind energy has the potential to provide 10 to 15 percent of the
world’s future energy." But wind does not blow steadily, nor
does it blow in convenient places, nor is the energy thus gained
storable without causing great pollution, if at all. Wind is great if
you want to sail in circles around Antarctica.
Solar power, like wind, is not going to work on the surface of the
earth. Solar power never works at night, nor is solar power
storable in an efficient, economical and pollution-free way if at all.
Neither solar nor wind can provide base load power because of
their intermittent character. Neither solar nor wind can make fuel
for cars unless and until we have battery technology far better
than we now have, or perhaps third rails on highways to recharge
cars on the move.

For an energy plan to be worthy of the name "plan," it has to
replace the burning of coal to make electricity by the year 2015 for
everybody on earth. The plan has to replace 100% of the coal
fired power plants in this short time. Power cannot be
intermittent. We do not have time to do decades worth of
research before we start building something. The only source of
electricity that meets these requirements is nuclear. And by the
way, nuclear power is the safest source of energy available to us.

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What NASA says about wind energy
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Aug 26, 2008 6:42 PM   
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Global Ocean Wind Energy Potential
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/
Newsroom/NewImages/
images.php3?img_id=18090

Large images [On the original web site. If you look at the images, you see
that the best wind is at very INconvenient locations, like near Antarctica and in the
North Pacific ocean.]
June-August (436 kB JPEG)
December-February (432 kB JPEG)

Wind energy has the potential to provide 10 to 15 percent of the world’s future
energy, according to Paul Dimotakis, chief technologist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion
Laboratory. Once windmills are installed, wind can be converted to electricity
inexpensively. But not everyone likes wind farms. The giant collection of whirling
blades mars scenic views and can kill birds and bats, particularly if located in a
high-traffic flyway. To minimize these risks, one solution may be to place wind
farms in the ocean. Wind tends to blow stronger over the ocean than over land.
The ocean presents a smooth surface over which wind can glide without
interruption, while hills, mountains, and forests tend to slow or channel wind over
land.

But, as any sailor could tell you, wind over the ocean isn’t consistent. In some
places, the air is still, while in others, the wind blows fiercely. To identify potential
wind farm locations, NASA scientists Tim Liu, Wenqing Tang, and Xiaosu Xie, all
at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, mapped out average wind intensity over the
ocean between 2000 and 2007. They created their maps from data collected by
NASA’s Quick Scatterometer (QuickSCAT), which measures wind speed and
direction over the world’s oceans. The satellite sends pulses of microwave energy
through the atmosphere to the ocean surface and measures the energy that bounces
back from the wind-roughened surface. The energy of the microwave pulses
changes depending on wind speed and direction. The scientists averaged
QuikSCAT’s measured wind speeds by season, and then calculated the wind
power density, the amount of energy that could be derived from a wind turbine in a
given location. Their maps for the winter and summer seasons are shown here.

Wind strength is influenced by seasonal patterns, land-ocean interactions, land
topography, and ocean temperatures. All of these interactions are evident in this
pair of images. Areas of high wind power density, where winds are strongest, are
purple, while low power density regions are light blue and white.

The largest patterns shown in the images are seasonal patterns. In December,
January, and February, winter storms fuel strong winds in the mid-latitudes of the
Northern Hemisphere. In June, July, and August, winter reigns in the Southern
Hemisphere, and the pattern is reversed. The Asian monsoon also controls the
seasonal distribution of wind. In June, July, and August, strong winds gust across
the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea. From December to February, the monsoon
winds blow over the East China Sea. Finally, the trade winds trace their way
across the tropics, stronger in the winter than in the summer.

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