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McCain Doesn't Have a Prayer

By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com. Posted July 28, 2008.


John McCain can't stand sucking up to the Christian right. Is this the end of the GOP's unholy alliance?

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Phoenix, July 13th, Sunday morning. Thank God John McCain has declared that he wants to wallpaper the continent with new nuke plants, because now the chances are better that this wretched slab of hot, birdshit-covered asphalt they call a state will be blown to hell in an accident someday. I hate this place. Once the sun comes up on an Arizona weekend, nothing moves except the occasional elderly-piloted Buick floating boatlike in the direction of some hideous megachurch.

This morning I've come to one of those monstrosities, North Phoenix Baptist Church, to witness John McCain's halfhearted offensive in his battle to win over the Christian right. On the stump, McCain talks about God less than any Republican politician in recent memory -- certainly less than any Republican I've ever seen. The guy pitches a tent visible from a mile off whenever anyone so much as mentions the military; you can almost hear the dopamine surging into his bloodstream every time someone stands up in a town hall and begins a question by saying, "Hello, Senator, my husband was a Navy pilot. . . ." And he seems positively tumescent when talking about such horrors as Al Qaeda or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But his basic stump speech doesn't contain a single line about God or religion. McCain is probably the first Republican in modern history to talk more about "green technology" than about his personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

While Barack Obama gives regular addresses at churches, where he comes off very like a preacher (right down to his natty blue suits and his lilting oratory), McCain's chosen stump locations are invariably VFW halls or factory sites -- where he tries to win over working-class crowds by telling them that their jobs aren't coming back. As the nominee of a party that has swept two straight elections by hawking cheap pieties and ramming one preposterous lie after another down the public's throat, McCain's agnostically bummerific public-speaking strategy is a curiosity, to say the least.



Here's the thing about John McCain, and it's never easy to tell whether this is a good quality or a bad one. He's a shitty liar. He may be willing to change his position on anything from immigration to torture to campaign finance at the drop of a hat to win votes, and he may have no problem aiming below the belt -- below the knees even -- to impugn an opponent's patriotism. But this is not a guy who can get up in front of a churchgoing crowd in Asscrack, Arkansas, and start weeping to Jesus. In fact, he appears to deeply resent the implication that he needs to genuflect to the baby savior at all. As in, "Hell, I already lived through five years of torture! You want me to do more?"

The Republican party returned to power at the beginning of this decade thanks to a brilliantly innovative political hybrid represented in its most advanced form by the Bush-Cheney ticket -- a high-tech engine of ruthless neocon capitalism wedded to a half-literate aristocrat dunce hiding his alcoholism in born-again Christian platitudes. Add corporate money to fundamentalist-Christian demographics in a country as dumb and superstitious as America, and you can vaporize a century's worth of Al Gores and John Kerrys.

But here's how fucked that seemingly unstoppable coalition is this time around, now that the ticket is headed by an aging Goldwaterite named John McCain: The candidate has only recently come around to the idea that the Republican nominee in the age of Bush and the evangelical ayatollahs has to go to church regularly. When asked recently if he is an evangelical Christian, McCain answered, "I attend church." When asked how often, he said, "Not as often as I should."

So in recent weeks, to prove his piety, McCain has taken to dragging himself out of bed on Sunday mornings to attend services at North Phoenix Baptist, not-so-subtly announcing his devotions to his traveling press. ("Yeah, they started telling us he was going to church about a month ago," one McCain-beat reporter chuckled to me on the Straight Talk Express. "Like, Oh, by the way, he's going to church again. At this address, if you want to check. . . .") Originally baptized an Episcopalian, McCain claims that he's been attending this Southern Baptist church for some 15 years, despite the fact that his 2007 congressional biography lists his faith as Episcopalian. But in a touching display of his apparent unwillingness to do absolutely anything to get elected, McCain still hasn't been baptized in his new church -- he's not born-again, in other words. Dude is holding out for some reason. Like he's afraid to lie to God. A politician, afraid to lie!

The marriage of fundamentalist Christianity and the conservative movement has been a powerful force in world affairs. It has been the best smoke screen the archpriests of supply-side economics could possibly have had, giving Wall Street a populist in with the very people victimized the most by their union-busting, deregulatory policies. It turned out, for decades, that Bible-thumping Americans didn't mind having their jobs shipped to China, so long as someone was worrying about the air supply to Terri Schiavo's brain lump. As political cons go, this was the ultimate gift that kept on giving.



It all had to end sometime, though, and that sometime might be now. Nervous, white, sexually inhibited Protestants with fourth-grade educations are becoming a smaller and smaller share of the country's population, and the Christian right is increasingly frustrated with the Republican Party's failure to transform America into a fundamentalist caliphate. (Forget about abortion: After eight years of Republican rule, Christians can't even put up the Ten Commandments in Alabama without someone bitching about it.) But the last straw just might come down to one Republican politician's personal idiosyncrasies. All the party needed was one more pious, Scripture-quoting, hair-spray-soaked whore to hold this thing together for another four years, and instead they got John McCain. And John McCain may break up three decades of GOP Jesus-flogging simply because he is too afraid to get his forehead wet. Wouldn't that be something?

North Phoenix Baptist is an ideal spiritual hiding place for a reluctant believer. For anyone with private doubts about the religious right, or even religion in general, the place's architectural setup -- with its thousands of seats and its giant twin TV monitors for reading hymn lyrics and its stoned-looking crowd of sun-damaged, elderly white retirees in golf garb -- is the perfect venue to hunker down and take your lumps once a week. Even I blend in, crouched a dozen rows up from McCain and his wife, Cindy, on the right side of the auditorium, mouthing the words to a half-hour of excruciating hymns.

Dan Yeary, the pastor of North Phoenix Baptist, doesn't bear much resemblance to the torch-bearing bigots of the Ted Haggard/Jesus Camp variety. He's a low-key Southwesterner with a kindly smile who seems to recognize that his aging congregation prefers the weak beer of mild spiritual encouragement to the 10-alarm chili you find in the witch-hunting Bible Belt. But on this day, he has crafted a sermon that seems to be aimed directly at the casual believer who thinks going to church once a week makes him holy. "We're not talking about paying dues at a country club," Yeary preaches. "This isn't about ritual. This is about a relationship."

Yeary talks about how important baptism is as a symbol of one's submission to God, "the first act of obedience." Then he tells a story about Abe Lincoln -- another famously vacillating Republican claimed by both atheists and Christians alike. The story involves a pastor who took Lincoln to hear another famous pastor speak. When the fiery oratory was over, Lincoln's friend asked him what he thought of the sermon.

"Lincoln said it was fine," relates Yeary. "The friend said, 'Fine? Just fine? Why?' And Lincoln answered, 'He did not ask me to do anything great for God.' "

Yeary carefully avoids looking over at the conspicuously unbaptized McCain. "That's what I want," he says. "I want to be part of people who take God seriously."

I watch McCain throughout the sermon. When the story is over, he flashes his creepy Count Chocula smile -- the same one he pulls out, teeth bared, after his That's not change we can believe in! stump line -- but otherwise doesn't react. Everybody on our side of the chapel is glancing over at him.

In a way, this scene says everything you need to know about McCain's dilemma. The man is a relic from a previous era of conservatism, when privacy was sacrosanct and public expressions of religiosity were considered vulgar and in bad taste. McCain comes from a generation of American men for whom religion was a ticket you punched once a week, a low-effort symbol of conformity to go with your two-car garage, your sorority-girl wife and your weekly golf game with the fellas. The whole braying-to-the-moon, born-again Promise Keeper act perfected by the Bushes and Huckabees of the world is as alien to his sensibility as an Iron John man-poetry retreat. Sitting here in the North Phoenix Baptist pews, he has a look on his face like he'd just as well suck a cock as do an altar call. It's one of his most likable qualities.



It's not like McCain isn't going to get Christian votes. In fact, his relationship with fundamentalist Christian groups has come a long way since last year, when some Christian leaders vowed to sit out the election if McCain was the nominee. Back then, it really looked bleak: Some prominent Christians sounded like they would rather have baguettes shoved up their asses than go anywhere near McCain come November. "Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," declared James Dobson, head of the influential Focus on the Family.

The Dobson comment came in January 2007, on a radio program called Jerry Johnson Live, a broadcast that exposed McCain's weaknesses with regard to the Christian community. Dobson was holding forth about this and that when the host suddenly whipped out an old audio recording of McCain offering his opinion about a key "values" issue. It was the kind of nightmarish, weirdly tolerant quip that seems to bubble up from McCain's past with unnerving regularity: "I think, uh . . . I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing, if you wanna call it that," incredulous conservative listeners could hear McCain saying. "I don't have any problem with that."

That was enough for Dobson. "He's not in favor of traditional marriage, and I pray that we won't get stuck with him," he growled.

But that was back in the days when Huckabee was still a candidate and a whole field of more openly pious and gay-bashing Republicans had not yet dropped out. Since then, McCain has dealt with his weakness on the gay-marriage issue as he has dealt with countless others -- by changing his mind. In fact, McCain changed his mind barely 11 minutes after the above "gay marriage should be allowed" statement, made on Hardball back in October 2006. "I believe that if people want to have private ceremonies, that's fine," he said in his about-face. "I do not believe that gay marriage should be legal." Just last week, McCain also came out against gay adoption. But for the most part, his strategy has been to just stop talking about any of this shit at all, recognizing that his political situation vis--vis the religious right improved dramatically without him saying a word the minute his chief opponent stopped being ex-preacher Mike Huckabee and started being queer-loving, Bernie Mac buddy Barack Obama.

It's McCain's newfound status as the lesser of two evils that recently won him a previously unthinkable triumph -- the pledged support of more than 100 Christian groups who met in Denver on July 1st to create a so-called "Declaration of American Values." Organized by Mat Staver, chairman of the fundamentalist group Liberty Counsel, the declaration was an attempt to reunite a Christian right that, as Staver tells me, had suffered "through a fractious primary season. There were a lot of hurt feelings." The group -- which included notables on the religious right like Phyllis Schlafly and Tim Lahaye -- settled on a list of 10 basic principles, including the perennial sanctity of life and anti-gay-marriage stuff, as well as some weirder and less biblically obvious demands supporting unfettered gun ownership and opposing taxation "of a progressive nature."

And while the group came out in support of McCain, Staver is anxious that this not be interpreted as a broad expression of enthusiasm by the Christian right. "Uh, the media somewhat didn't accurately report that," he says with obvious fright in his voice. "This wasn't a Declaration of American Values in support of John McCain. This was a statement of support for those core values." It was agreed, Staver clarifies, that supporting McCain in this election was merely the best choice for the "short term." And the reason for that, he says, is that the election of Barack Obama would "decimate American values." From there, Staver is off and running about Obama's record on abortion rights and gay marriage, and how generally an Obama election would bring about the end of civilization; he said almost nothing about McCain.

I get the same response when I speak to Kristi Hamrick of the Campaign for Working Families, a political fundraising group affiliated with former presidential candidate Gary Bauer, who was one of the first prominent Christian-right leaders to pledge support for McCain. When I ask a general question about how evangelicals will vote in the fall, Hamrick immediately focuses on Obama. "When California endorsed gay marriage, Barack Obama said it was a good idea. John McCain didn't," she tells me. "It would be different if we had a pro-choice Republican running, but we don't. We have a pro-life Republican."

But despite the nearly monolithic support of the organized Christian right for McCain now that the infidel Obama is on the ballot, there's no guarantee that Christian voters are buying McCain as the electoral protector of biblical family values. In fact, McCain's backtracking with regard to the religious right seems to have had an off-putting effect: A recent poll shows that only one in 10 registered voters are more likely to vote for McCain now that he is campaigning with the religious right. Two in 10, on the other hand, say they are now less likely to vote for him.





The real problem here might be that McCain's stubborn refusal to pull a full-court Huckabee on the God front has coincided with (a) an impending economic catastrophe and (b) statements by one of his closest advisers, Phil Gramm, to the effect that America is in a "mental recession" and is a "nation of whiners." As a result, McCain now has the daunting task of somehow keeping voters in economically hard-hit evangelical regions mesmerized by Bible-humping, gay-bashing bullshit, despite the fact that he only started going to church regularly a month ago and as recently as a year ago was actually saying gay people are human beings. If he doesn't, who knows -- people might actually start voting according to their economic interests, which would be disastrous for a Republican Party that has duped America's white underclass for decades, thanks to Christian conservatism.

But that's only if McCain keeps up his present habit of not playing the God card on the stump. "If the contrast between the candidates on social issues is heightened enough, then those evangelical voters will eventually come back on board," says James Gimpel, a professor of government at the University of Maryland who tracks voter demographics in real time for a project called Patchwork Nation. The project recently found that counties with large populations of Christian evangelicals have been hit especially hard by high gas prices and foreclosures, creating greater anxiety leading up to the election.

Gimpel concedes, however, that McCain is not doing a whole lot right now to "heighten" that contrast. "Yeah, he doesn't seem very interested in campaigning on those social issues," he says. "Unless he turns it around or gets surrogates to make that case for him, some evangelicals might sit it out."

McCain is so bad at this game that when it came time for him to pick an evangelical date for the prom, he chose the one preacher crazy enough to make even trailer-dwelling Southerners nervous -- John Hagee, a beach-ball-shaped apocalypse merchant whose views on Catholicism would raise eyebrows at a Klan meeting. Classic McCain: He kicks off his presidential run in 2000 by insulting North American vote-generating champion Jerry Falwell, then heads into 2008 with his arms wrapped around an obscure televangelist whose only electoral pull is in the next world. As a result, the most influential leaders on the Christian right are keeping their distance. "Uh, no," says a spokesman for Focus on the Family, when I ask if Dobson has changed his mind about McCain, even with Obama on the ticket. "He hasn't changed his mind. No way."

Watching these once-united wings of the Republican juggernaut devolve into frank mutual suspicion and distaste along the runway to almost certain electoral disaster is, of course, a delicious development. The Moral Majority Christians and the supply-side neocons always represented two of the worst and most vile impulses in the American character -- mass, willful ignorance and total, shameless greed. In one wing of the ruling-party mansion they housed preachers who transformed the religion of "turn the other cheek" and "go, give away all your possessions to the poor" into a "Christianity" that celebrated shock-and-awe bombing and assault-rifle ownership and decried the progressive income tax as unfair to the propertied class. In the other wing they housed "conservatives" who turned the party of limited government into a giant snooping apparatus, one that borrowed trillions against the future earnings of ordinary taxpayers and sacrificed thousands of lives to snatch a few Middle Eastern oil wells for companies that were rich as hell to begin with.

The Bible-thumpers, mainly working- and middle-class whites with limited educations from the landlocked states of the South and the Midwest, would seem to have had little in common with the archpriests of the neoconservative movement, who as it happened were mainly Jewish academics with fancy degrees from the East and West Coasts. But they did: They shared an almost equal disdain for democracy, free speech and learning, and paradise for both groups was an intellectually mute America of vast malls, prisons packed full of ungrateful blacks, shitty TV programming to keep the brains chilled and 200-foot-high electrified fences along the Rio Grande. And lots of hero worship of soldiers, if not so much in the way of VA benefits.

This vision looked unstoppable for a while; there was a time in the early Bush years when this mean-spirited program of flag-waving, gun-toting biblical nationalism looked destined to become a kind of continental religion, a Church of America our missionaries would spread everywhere -- and woe to those liberals and Frenchmen and other heretics who didn't get with the program! Then we left them in office for a while, and it turned out that our would-be nationalist priests were totally stupid and completely incompetent at running anything at all, much less the world economy. And suddenly the red states stopped looking so much red as broke and fucked and responsible for a giant mess that even they didn't pretend to know the way out of.

It was at this low point in the Christian-corporate marriage that John McCain stepped into the breach to wreck the demographic even more. At this critical moment, the party needed a turbocharged con man to revive the old religion, and what they got was an old man with doubts who can barely bring himself to go to church on Sundays. The worst possible scenario. Or the funniest, depending on how you look at things.

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Matt Taibbi is a writer for Rolling Stone.

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Posted by: CatDad on Jul 28, 2008 3:45 AM   
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The Right can address McCain's problems with the Religious Right with the VP running mate....specifically, by choosing someone as vile as Mike Huckabee...a Southern Baptist minister and faux populist...whom the conned "values" voters would love....Even better, he would provide "impeachment insurance" for McCain....That is, the prospect of his becoming president would be so unpalatable that Congress would never impeach McCain....

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Very dignified, Mr. Taibbi.
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Jul 28, 2008 3:55 AM   
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You again prove that you remain in the anal stage of psychosocial development, wanting to shit on others in your toddler-like temper tantrums. I admit the first paragraph was all I read; it was enough almost to make me vomit.

So you wish nuclear holocaust on the state of Arizona? How exactly do the sentiments you expressed in that first paragraph differ from O'Reilly's much-loathed statement about how terrorists may as well bomb San Francisco?

Take a good look in the mirror, Mr. Taibbi. You are the mirror image of infantile right-wing hate-mongering fanatics. And just like them, you think you're clever.

Well, keep up the mental masturbation. Your violent fantasies and flippant attacks on others clearly get you off in one sense or another. In fact even I sometimes look forward to opening up your latest screed to marvel at its astounding rottenness - in such small doses as I can tolerate. It piques that area of my mind that would be fascinated by witnessing a train wreck, or that causes me to glance aside when there is an accident along the highway, wondering if any injured or dead bodies are visible.

You've given this section of your mind free rein to permeate the rest of your thinking. So be it. At least you have a kind of courage: a boldness to allow yourself, probably against your better judgment, to be taken over by impulses that other people are socialized well enough to repress.

But it's a Faustian bargain. I can't help but imagine that behind your immature proclivity to shock others and act cool, you're miserable in all your vileness.

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» RE: Very dignified, Mr. Taibbi. Posted by: weathered
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When the 'Right' says Wright, I think Hagee
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jul 28, 2008 4:06 AM   
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As a Recovered Catholic born & raised in MI, White ,45 yr old Working class (previously called 'middleclass'),Female with a College degree,I understood Rev Wrights sermon clips the moment I heard them- regardless of the MSM intended Skew. So to confirm my suspecions about how they were misrepresented I went to the internet. Having lived in SF during the late '80's I saw how the Reagan & HW admins disregarded the potential for Epidemic proportions GRID/AIDS was developing into. What is worse creating Frankenstien or releasing Him?So regardless of how AIDS came about- It was allowed to become a national health issue.Only when it hit the White community did the Gov't begin to acknowledge it- Recklesss endangerment.
As for Whos 'Chickens' came home to roost, I also Know Americans demanded we get off Oil and the Big 3 build fuel Effiecnt Vehicles in the late '70s, But they refused.At least until the Japanese started kicking th eBig 3's asses in Sales. After that blink of an Eye- right back to Lead Sleds coming off wha twas left of the Detroit Assembly lines. I remeber the Iran Hostage Crisis, the Iran Contra Scandal hearings....I knew exactly Who's chickens had come home to shit on, attack American cities.
Then I pulled Up Hagee- a True meglomaniac with serious Sociopathic Tendencies. Pre- emptively strike Iran ("Bomb bomb bomb Iran" Son Of Cain or the Cheney in Drag candidate "Obliterate Iran"). Setting off 'Armegeddon' and the delusional 'Rapture' while Lieberman stands behind him on the stage..This man and his fiends in Office are the REAL Threat to both national and International Security.
So when ever one of their mindless mouth pieces refer to the 'Wright controversy' I think 'Sociopath Hagee'. No doubt Rev Wright was laid upon the Alter of misinormed and misguided Public opinion to spare the succubus Hagee Revelations.Hagee the Heretic.

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adolescent writing with a bad sense of tactics
Posted by: kenhymes on Jul 28, 2008 5:40 AM   
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This kind of writing does nothing to help anyone, and it doesn't even qualify as good investigative reporting, because the author has made no attempt to go beneath the surface of institutions and communities he loathes instinctively. Churches are complicated places, and until the left actually shows some curiosity about what's going on, rather than writing all those people off as subhuman lunatics, progressive politics are doomed in the US. The left is in a good position to peel off a huge chunk of Jesus-followers, and forge a powerful coalition... but it generally can't stand to be in the same room with people who don't share its cosmology. I suggest that Tabibi read up on American political history, specifically the history of leftist politics, and try to notice the concurrence of multi-religious coalitions with progressive victories.

Peace
Ken Hymes

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McCain's Problem
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 28, 2008 5:44 AM   
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You've got to feel some real degree of sympathy for poor ol' John McCain. The guy has totally sold out to the Christian right. He resembles the maverick, rugged individualist of the 2000 primaries not one bit.

Back in 2000, so underwhelmed was I with the potential Democratic ticket (I was still a Democrat then) I seriously considered supporting McCain - if only for a fleeting moment.

Look at the situation we find ourselves in: McCain is such a horrible candidate, Senator Obama is the most extraordinary candidate to come down the pike in over forty years. What gives?

The "pundits" have all sorts of phony excuses: Barack is untested; McCain has more "experience"; Obama is an "unknown quantity"....Bullshit! The only reason Barack
Obama isn't killing John McCain in the primaries is because he is a black man. Case closed. Let's stop kidding ourselves.

If we deny the White House to a vigorous young statesman who has the respect and admiration of the entire planet and hand it over to a senile old bobblehead, we're going to look like a nation of idiots. Seriously!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
BARACK STAR!

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The FAUXTIANS are an appendage of the Reptilian Party!
Posted by: williameon on Jul 28, 2008 6:01 AM   
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The FAUXTIANS are under Corpirate Control.

The Bored Again do exactly what the Collective tells them.
Ignorant,
Brainwashed and
Conditioned!
They’ve bought the Corpirate
Pie in the Sky!

Armageddon!

Sorry!
The 144,000 are going south to meet their maker.
There is nothing Christ like about them.
They are duped.

Where’s the Compassion?
Where’s the Peace?
Where’s the Love?

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It's McCain's biggest plus, Obama's biggest minus
Posted by: Moonray on Jul 28, 2008 6:05 AM   
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Not even McBush is totally evil; his distaste for the knuckle-draggers on the religious right indicates a grain of good character still remains. Meanwhile, I am troubled by the pious religiosity of the better candidate, Obama. Let's hope his self-proclaimed gullibility is merely another shrewd political ploy like his political embrace of Hillary Clinton and will not linger long after he's elected.

If anything President Obama needs to marshal the forces of reason to pry loose the grip of the corrupt religious establishment on our nation's government -- one grimy finger at a time.

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RE: Very dignified, Mr. Taibbi.
Posted by: Kevin S. on Jul 28, 2008 6:22 AM   
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I agree with Taibbi's politics and his anger, but andabottleof_rum is right: all the references to sodomy and excrement distract.

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» RE: Very dignified, Mr. Taibbi. Posted by: helenwheels
None of This Matters
Posted by: madmac10 on Jul 28, 2008 6:52 AM   
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McCain can trot harrumphing along in this grotesque pantomime until election day for all he cares. As long as he keeps up the appearance that there are enough votes to take him over the top, then hopefully another stolen election won't stir up the people who are either too uneducated or too fundamentalist or too frightened. And the rest of us, well, even if we do manage to figure out how he rigged this one, what are we going to do about it? He knows what we'll do, but he'll keep playing the game nonetheless.

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McCain is Not Well I Suspect
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 28, 2008 7:40 AM   
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I actually believe Sen McCain probably has age related early CNS dementia

(But that IS NOT AN OFFICIAL DIAGNOSIS. Since I don't do tele-diagnoses on anyone!)

Just what we need- Another disabled President who likes miltary might!


Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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» RE: McCain is Not Well I Suspect Posted by: drricklippin
» RE: McCain is Not Well I Suspect Posted by: drricklippin
But Mccain has the support of Big Media and thanks to Obama WEAKENING his base,
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 28, 2008 7:41 AM   
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the GOP can once again count on DEPRESSED voter turnout on the Democratic side ! Or for that matter the fact that many of us are VERY VERY VERY PISSED OFF BEYOND SANITY that we'll purposely SHOOT ourselves out and vote 3rd party !

P.S.: If Obama does win and he turns around 180 and goes progressive/liberal all the way and even takes back his pandering-to-the-right votes, my wife and I will write him a very sincerely letter of apology and gratitude.

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WARNING: Do not underestimate the McCain campaign machine!
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 28, 2008 7:47 AM   
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Forget evangelical Christians. It will be GOP dirty tricks that gets Senator McCain elected in November.

Case at point: McCain's reckless assertion that suggests Barack Obama is a traitor because "he would rather lose a war than lose an election."

Another McCain TV ad blames Obama for high gasoline prices without saying how he caused the rise.

This is just the beginning, folks. Stand by for the dirtiest GOP campaign in U.S. political history. If you think John McBush won't not use the worst tricks in Karl Rove's playbook, think again.

Facing a torrent of GOP smears, the ONLY way Obama can win in November is by making Senator Clinton his running mate. And I have never been a Hillary fan.

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» I don't Hugh, but.. Posted by: edith
» By the same token... Posted by: Gungneir
Phoenix parking lot
Posted by: mrsanfran on Jul 28, 2008 8:12 AM   
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Oh Matt, how classic. This is a pathetic excuse of a city. I have lived in the suburbs of SE Phoenix for the last 4 years via Callifornia. What a mistake. I pray I am out of here before that nuke levels the parking lot. The Real Estate prices have collapsed do to the subprime and I am stuck for the time being. Great article. McCain does not have a prayer. This will be a blow out come November.

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» RE: Phoenix parking lot Posted by: edith
» RE: Phoenix parking lot Posted by: animalleaderisgreat
THE RIGHT WING'S PUPPET
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 28, 2008 8:15 AM   
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McCain doesn't believe a word he says. He is spoon fed by the right wing-nuts and goes out on the stage and does his act. Not exactly leadership material. But exactly what they want in the White House. Another George Bush. One more term with this current regime in place, calling the shots and our country will be history. McCain is still mad as hell about the 2000 election, and perhaps a little vindictive. Thanks, ANNA

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» RE: THE RIGHT WING'S PUPPET Posted by: bobtr900
Thank you Matt Taibbi
Posted by: helenwheels on Jul 28, 2008 9:15 AM   
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I SO enjoyed reading this article! Taibbi touches on so many aspects of the duped bible-humpers and their failed attempt at taking over the country. My most favorite line:

"The Moral Majority Christians and the supply-side neocons always represented two of the worst and most vile impulses in the American character -- mass, willful ignorance and total, shameless greed."

How true. I also laughed my ass off at the description of Hagee and the irony of McLame's embracing someone so embarassing after criticizing Falwell, who as Taibbi said, was the true vote-getter. Not too bright.

McLame is a failure and not competent to be president, but I actually am happy to see that he has at least a teensy iota of 'realness' in his obvious distaste in having to act like a bible humper. This new trend, as Taibbi points out, of candidates being made to come off as god-crazy is a bad trend, indeed. I would never vote for McLame, but if he can be instrumental at all in breaking this pattern, then the man may have actually done some good.

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» RE: Thank you Matt Taibbi Posted by: dmmaze6
McCampaign
Posted by: Grousefeather on Jul 28, 2008 9:22 AM   
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John McCain's entire campaign reminds me of the old cigarette advertisments, and I'm old enough to remember them.

Pall Malls: "travels the smoke farther, and they are mild."

Lucky Strike: "preferrd by nine out of ten doctors who smoke."

Camels: "I'd walk a mile for a camel."

The camparison...?

No matter how clever and creative the pitch men are, we all know the product is bad for us.

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I hope...
Posted by: bobtr900 on Jul 28, 2008 9:41 AM   
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...Taibbi is correct, that McCain doesn't have a chance. For a number of reasons, McCain does have a chance, despite Sen. Jim Bunning's(R-Ky) comments in that hearing the other day wherein he seemed to be convinced that the Repubs were going to lose.

McCain still has, to some extent, the always unpredictable religious right(RR) who may suddenly decide, at the last minute, that they must support him or doom and gloom will certainly prevail.

For example, any time from now on, the Pope, my religion, could suddenly weigh in and make some kind of statement that will throw the election to McCain. He did just that when Sen. Kerry ran for the presidency and that was all that was needed to tip more votes to Bush and his band of killers and perpetrators of the 'Culture of Death' for ever greater profits and ever more political power for the Repub party.

Some other right wing religious extremists could also weigh in and make ever stronger statements of support for McCain. That is all it would take to tip a close election.

The RR and their ever present Repub party voter disenfranchisement apparatus including their easily corruptible voting machines are quite enough to steal another election for the Repubs.

Should that happen the continuation of Repub party strategies will ensure the further devolution of our Constitution and what is left of our democracy.

More death will certainly follow, as well. More dead troops, Iraqis' and Afghanis' are sure to be the norm(while Bin Laden, who should be the real target, continues to roam free) and very possibly for many more years to come.

Great danger remains, b ecause their is no satisfying the RR or the Texas/Bush oil cartel or the Repub party profits cartel that has this entire nation in it's throat gripping death grasp, T Boone Pickens obfuscation notwithstanding. I know what he said but like the Pope, Falwell, Robertson, Hagee etc. it's what he/they DO/DOES that counts and I do not trust any of them.

What Taibbi does not.take into account is that they are all fundamentalist ideologues of one kind(business profits) or another(religious profits and ideology). So many people give the ideological predators of either the religious right or the business right insufficient 'credit' for their death dealing zeal and that is to our own downfall.

ALL zealots and ideologues are extremists and must be regarded as such. It doesn't matter whether they are bin Laden, or his counterparts in our culture, they are all dangerous.

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» RE: I hope... Posted by: Lauren
So what?
Posted by: willymack on Jul 28, 2008 9:56 AM   
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So mcboob doesn't like to suck up to religious right dementos, huh? Coulda fooled me. Maybe he's secretly an atheist. It that's so it'd be the ONLY good thing he's got going for himself.

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J Meyer
Posted by: waterlily on Jul 28, 2008 10:46 AM   
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I am so furious with what has been going on in this country the last 8+ years that reading this article MADE MY DAY!

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Wall Street may be hanging by a thread
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jul 28, 2008 11:52 AM   
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It isn't just the sub-prime mess, or real estate, or gas prices. If you've been following the Fanny Mae crisis you'd know that short sellers have been running out of control in the system, and now the SEC feels that it has to do something about it. This problem is already decades old.

All the SEC has done in the past is to put a band aide on it. Now it's trying to do something and Wall Street is screaming bloody murder. It's all running out of control.

I don't see how the Administration is going to keep covering up these and other potetial time bombs before the election, any one of which will destroy the Republicans. I don't think even a lot of Republicans want to see McCain win. Another blowup and that's it for McCain.

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Brain dead
Posted by: kenhymes on Jul 28, 2008 1:20 PM   
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There just seem to be so few people around in the InterLeft who are aware of local progressive politics, it's like you're all in your heads, blabbing away at each other. Here in Charlottesville, there is exactly ONE serious advocacy group which has achieved success in keeping homelessness and affordable housing in the papers and on the local government agenda... it's called IMPACT, and it's a coalition of churches. You just can't face the fact that churches are generally a force for nothing, occasionally a force for real change, and most vocally, but also only sporadically, a force for regression. Church is BIIIIIIIG. WAYYYYY bigger than the left. It's as politically diverse as the country at large. Wake up to that and deal with it intelligently, and there is some hope for major social and political change. Keep sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "the church is bad religion is a mental illness" and you might as well just give up.

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Did you say brain dead?
Posted by: thinks4herself2008 on Jul 28, 2008 1:45 PM   
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Brain dead is voting for the party that is destroying the middle class (or working class), while making the privileged class and the oil companies wealthier than kings. Brain dead is claiming to be "pro life" while supporting (1) the war-loving party (that obviously enjoys even unnecessary wars of choice as they lust for oil) and (2) the death penalty (which is state-sanctioned murder and against a commandment). Brain dead is being outraged about gays being allowed the same right as everyone else to marry due to some "sanctity of marriage" belief, while engaging in divorce (highest in red states). Brain dead is selecting portions of the bible to follow while blatantly ignoring other sections and not seeing the hypocrisy in that. Brain dead is claiming to be a great patriot and yet nodding your head in agreement when BushCo trashes the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Brain dead is ignoring scientists and believing the GOP when they tout there's no such thing as global warming (because the oil companies tell them so). "Brain dead" is what I would call people who do not think for themselves, but instead follow the GOP like mindless sheeple.

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Obama isn't Sweating. He should.
Posted by: cori on Jul 28, 2008 1:54 PM   
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Obama isn't Sweating. He should.

They are aggressively peurging votes and are planing to steal the next election

In swing-state Colorado, the Republican Secretary of State conducted the biggest purge of voters in history, dumping a fifth of all registrations. Guess their color. In swing-state Florida, the state is refusing to accept about 85,000 new registrations from voter drives - overwhelming Black voters.

In swing state New Mexico, HALF of the Democrats of Mora, a dirt poor and overwhelmingly Hispanic county, found their registrations disappeared this year, courtesy of a Republican voting contractor.

In swing states Ohio and Nevada, new federal law is knocking out tens of thousands of voters who lost their homes to foreclosure.

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The following response to my comment on this thread deserves an initial posting. So here it is.
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 28, 2008 5:37 PM   
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I have an acquaintance who is working for Obama in one of the northern swing states (I forget which one), and she says the indications are about 50/50 for Obama and McCain.

I would hate to believe that Americans are so ignorant and misinformed they would vote McCain into office, but it's certainly possible. Living in West Virginia, which I love in general, does expose me to a lot of people who are politically uninformed. One young friend asked me why someone would call Obama a "towelhead" if his father didn't come from Iraq! She'd heard that bit of nastiness from a waitress in the Cracker Barrel and was confused by it. Another friend said that he was concerned that Obama's race would be such an issue he wouldn't be able to accomplish anything if he were elected.

For the most part, the local people here are wonderful in many, many, many ways. I know at least a dozen of them I could call at 2:00 am for help who would be there for me without question. I don't have to lock my door when I go out of town! Everyone is friendly, and, in fact, they are quite open to strangers and seem to have no problem with diversity on a personal basis. For example, if a black person shows up at a party, he or she is treated like everyone else. But in casual conversation in an all-white group, jokes about blacks are not uncommon, racial or ethnic epithets are used without thinking, and fear of Islam is rampant. If the notion that Obama is Muslim is as wide-spread in Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and other places as it is here, McCain might still have more than a fighting chance.

Many of my co-workers have absolutely no comprehension of why I am not a Christian. My agnosticism is a complete mystery, and I've been told by a well-meaning friend that "someday" I might come to believe. When I said that would never happen, her response was, "Never say never." But if I told her that someday she might encounter reason and stop believing in her ancient mythology, she'd be sure to say, "Never" herself. I avoid that kind of confrontation with people I otherwise truly like because it's futile, and I find no need to point out their double standards when it comes to religion. However, this simply illlustrates the irrationality one might encounter in large areas of the US.

I haven't been to Alabama, so I can't pass judgement on that or most other states. But from what I've seen in West Virginia, there's definitely a great deal of ignorance, superstition, "clinging" to religion and guns, and fear of the unknown.

Matt Taibbi's use of scatalogical terms and sexual innuendos is probably offensive to a lot of readers - as indicated by several posters here. Actually, I have no problem with that personally. But I'm not sure I agree with his assessment of McCain's chances. I sincerely hope he is right, but I am still quite nervous about the "election," such as it is. The Republican machine may be slowed down, but it's not gone.

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Classic Taibbi
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 29, 2008 2:45 AM   
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Nice! One of my favorite articles by Taibbi, or anyone on Alternet.

If only more articles were this edgy, entertaining, and to the point. Nice descriptions of US demographics.

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The gun issue screwed the Dems, not "Family values"
Posted by: drp on Jul 29, 2008 5:53 AM   
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We have always had bible-thumping no-minds. In fact, less now than ever. But, as a practical matter, they could not swing national elections.

What really started things was the Brady bill and "assault weapons" ban in 1994. The gun issue will automatically cost you you 3-7% of the vote in most inland areas, enough to transfer control of the house and senate, and give the Repugs the presidency.

BTW, "assault weapons" are merely semiautomatic replicas of full-automantic rifles. Other than looking scary, they are no different from many deer rifles, except they shoot a much less-powerful round. We shouldn't have to keep educating you-all uneducated city-folk about this.

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I don't like McCain but..
Posted by: xmvince on Jul 29, 2008 11:04 AM   
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I don't like McCain, but it's his choice what religion he chooses, if he chooses one at all. I'd rather have him not religious at all than too religious, because religion will cloud your head (as we can see with the terrorists).

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Democrats winning means nothing if the win doesn't mean anything
Posted by: Sil on Jul 29, 2008 11:15 AM   
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Well, I always expected the Democrats to win the Presidency in 2008, unless they were dumb enough to put a transparently corrupt and ambitious Hillary Clinton up as the nominee to send the Republicans to the polls en masse. Let's face it, if they can't win this year, the party needs to be put out of its misery on live television.

But Obama winning won't mean anything unless he does something meaningful with the victory, and I don't expect him to. Yes, he'll have a more responsible, less insane foreign policy, he won't embarrass the country and the people who aren't super-rich will get a slightly better deal.

But the USA has been undergoing this massive rightward swing since Reagan in 1980. The situation of today didn't happen overnight, and changing the party in the White House in 2008 won't correct it. When Clinton didn't work to undo the rightward shift of the previous 12 years once elected in 1992, instead just putting a smiley face on the situation as middle class wages stagnated under his watch too while globalization took off like never before, as soon as he was out, the Republicans pushed the country further right again. The only thing Clinton's term represented was an 8-year reprieve, and even that is certainly arguable.

It looks like this will happen again. Obama will put a more responsible Presidency in place, but he won't truly alter the fundamentals that need to change in the USA. Just listen to him. He's not going to stop trading with China, he's not going to pull out of NAFTA or the WTO, he's already said he's not too worried about FISA. He'll leave "residual forces" in Iraq, and nobody seems too curious about how many those are or what they will do. People will get a few crumbs under him, but the fundamental problems with the way we do business in the country, or conduct our foreign policy (the House of Cards strategy) will continue. Think how dysfunctional it is that, since 9/11, we have never had a serious national conversation about the many very real reasons for Middle Eastern anger towards the United States.

Once again, the Democrats are calculating exactly how little they can give to the American people and still retain the credibility to get people to vote for them under the theory that something will change when they're put in power. Nothing will, and when the Republicans get power again 4 or 8 years or however long after Obama takes office, nothing meaningful will have been done to change the effects of the insane decisions about foreign policy, trade, and economics by the previous Republican regimes. Then the next Republican crew actually will institute meaningful changes designed to turn the country into a tinpot dictatorship and a paradise for the top 1% at the expense of the bottom 99.

Voting in Obama is just delaying the inevitable for 4 or 8 years. Of course, it's less work to convince yourself that the Democratic Party is on your side and wants to help you, so their victory will probably be hailed as a sign of better things to come. It is, after all, a lot easier than actually doing the work that would need to be done to institute said needed change.

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Taibbi's description is perfect - Victorians can fuck off
Posted by: mofoshrimp on Jul 30, 2008 10:25 AM   
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For everyone whining about Taibbi's caustic style, maybe you should notice that the man is utterly correct: we ARE this fucked. Desperate times call for pointed language. I've yet to see anyone, on AlterNet or anyplace else, capture the essence of American bullshit in all its glory as poignantly as Taibbi has. The man is writing about reality. If you're concerned with manners and everyone having a nice little fair-and-balanced chit chat that doesn't offend anyone by talking about HOW FUCKING RIDICULOUS OUR COUNTRY HAS BECOME then perhaps you should go watch CNN or Fox News. I challenge you to write something as deadly accurate as this without using any colorful language. You will fail.

Mark Twain. HL Mencken. Hunter S. Thompson. We have a great tradition of biting cultural critics ripping the pompous blowhards a new asshole. One which Taibbi proudly continues, manners be damned.

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Oops!
Posted by: Ladydog on Aug 1, 2008 11:07 AM   
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Sorry, Ms. LeeAnn! I see this was your initial comment on Mr. Scott's post. But he is right - it deserved first-place.

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Well It's about time
Posted by: donl51 on Aug 4, 2008 12:18 AM   
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That's the first good thing I've heard about McCain yet,...still won't vote for him, but it pulls him a step away from that goof ball in office,..I'd love to take that entire religious right troop pack 'em in Falwells bus and send them on a long ride off a short pier!

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The Sad Part Is .....
Posted by: radical53 on Aug 5, 2008 4:58 PM   
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The sad part is that McCain really does have a chance. It's even harder to believe than 2000 and 2004, but this country has fundamentally changed. We left-wingers, progressives, and liberals thought the country would snap out of it but it just isn't going to happen. I can't explain why, I just observe it election to election.

After 4 years of Bush, how can his re-election be explained? How could swift-boating actually work against Kerry? The only way is that people were predisposed to reject Kerry, just as they were predisposed against Dukakis in '88. Many are predisposed against Obama this year. It's incredible to me, but true. Obama is the candidate the Dems have been waiting for - a young, inspiring communicator (unlike Dukakis and Kerry), a guy who can get things done through intelligent compromise (unlike Carter and Hillary Clinton), and a guy with a progressive agenda, unlike DLC types.

Now the Republicans are seizing on the tried and true tactics of short term policies and personal attacks. Imagine McCain picking out the footnote on keeping auto tires inflated as a key feature of Obama's energy package. This is not going to be an intelligent debate. Think about it, what is McCain offering and will it actually do any good? It's absurd!

The American "experiment" has truly failed and even Obama can't save it. Oh, I'll vote for him on the off-chance that I'm wrong but I seriously doubt he can turn things around - if he gets elected at all. The polls show the race is 44-44 right now - it's almost too depressing to think about. While we're at it, who makes up the 28-30 percent who still approve of the way Bush is doing his job? Now that's scary!

If this sounds like a rant, it is!

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I only vote for Ben Dover for President these days
Posted by: Jah Dick on Aug 8, 2008 9:52 PM   
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The interweaving of politics and religion in America always confuses me.
For example, last week, on CNN, some talking head was droning on about how Obama's religious beliefs would help in the election.

The headline underneath said: YOUNG OBAMA EXPOSED TO ATHEISM, FOLK ISLAM

What the eff does that mean?

Folk Islam?

Do they play guitars and sing of jihad?

Are they somehow insinuating that exposure to an idea will infect you like a germ?

This is "the news?"

I can see why 9/11 Truthers find so many broadcast anomalies from that day.

These reporter folk couldn't find their mouths with a fork.

I'm surprised that they didn't have all the cameras pointing in the opposite direction when the planes hit.

I think they only noticed because the goddamn towers were so big.

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