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The Do-It-Yourself Economy
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Until then, I had drifted along with the do-it-yourself economy. I bused my own lunch trays. I booked my own movie tickets. I checked myself in at hotel kiosks. I even succumbed when an upscale seafood restaurant expected me to swipe my credit card through a handheld computer as if I were in a supermarket.
But maybe it was the election-year rants about the offshoring of American jobs -- ranging from those of steelworkers to those of computer programmers -- that finally got me. The outsourcing of work to other countries has produced endless ire. But what about the outsourcing of work to thee and me?
For every task shipped abroad by a corporation, isn't there another one sloughed off onto that domestic loser, the consumer? For every job that's going to a low-wage economy, isn't there another going into our very own no-wage economy?
I'm not just talking about do-it-yourself gas pumping, which is by now so routine that the memory of an actual person washing your windshield has receded into the mists of AARP nostalgia. Back when gas cost $2 a gallon, self-service was offered at a discount. Today, gas is more than $4, and, in most parts of the country, full service -- a retronym if there ever was one -- is available only at a premium.
What's happening on land is happening in the air. We are now expected to book our own itinerary, print our boarding passes and do everything at the airport except pat ourselves down for liquids.
In this self-service economy, we also serve (ourselves) by having intimate and endless conversations with voice-recognition machines simply to refill a prescription drug or check our bank balance. We are expected to interact with "labor-saving technology" without realizing that it's labor-transferring technology. The job has not been "saved"; it's been taken out of the paid sector, where employees have a nasty habit of expecting salaries, and put into the unpaid sector, where suckers 'r' us.
I am tempted to say that customer service has gone the way of the house call, but that reminds me that even medicine has been outsourced to patients who buy do-it-yourself kits to test and track everything from HIV to blood pressure. The Internet ad for a do-it-yourself eye surgery kit may be, I pray, a hoax. But in an era when every operation short of brain surgery is done on an outpatient basis, nursing care has already been outsourced to family members whose entire medical training consists of TiVo-ing "Grey's Anatomy."
The axis of this evil isn't really globalization, it's privatization. Consider all the major jobs that have now become part of our personal portfolio. We've become our own computer geeks as help lines become self-help lines. We've become our own pension planners and financial analysts managing our 401(k)s. We are even expected to be health care analysts, determining which star in the galaxy of drug prescription plans covers the ever-changing cast of pills in our medicine cabinet.
All of this is framed in the language of free choice. As opposed to, say, free time.
An MIT economist assures me cheerily that many Americans are willing to accept less service for lower cost. In a society built on the value of self-reliance, I am told, we may even feel virtuous when we put together our own bookcase or install our own hard drive.
But I have yet to find an economist who has figured out the human cost of "lower cost" or tallied up the transfer of labor from companies to customers. I've yet to find a consumer who has added, subtracted or multiplied the amount of time we are now spending on the second shift of life management.
Remember back when women were asking "Can We Have It All?" The answer turned out to be that we could have it all only if we could do it all ... and all by ourselves. Now men and women have won equal opportunity in the do-it-all-by-yourself world. We have officially become our own nonprofit centers.
Welcome to the self-service economy where we are never without work to be done. Let's celebrate by dining out together. Bring your carrot peeler.
Ellen Goodman's e-mail address is ellengoodman(at)globe.com.
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 18, 2008 3:18 AM
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Here in NJ, you have to wait for the kid to bang on the passenger window, and then spill gas everywhere because he doesn't want to make change...even though I'm paying by credit card.
The DIY grocery line is nice, because I can take my time and make sure they're not overcharging me for an item. If they are, I hit the help button and set off the flashing lights. Plus, all the old ladies who pay in pennies and question every item go to the traditional lines, leaving the DIY lines free.
As for medicine, I'd look forward to that as well. I'd like the option of prescribing my own drugs which, apparently, people did during the first half of the 20th century. With the exception of brain surgery and other obvious things, I don't see why you need to make an appt. and pay an overpaid doctor to see you for 5 seconds for the flu, when you can either diagnose yourself, or pay a nurse, especially since a lot of nurses know more about patients than doctors.
One big hurdle in the health care crisis is the fact that we use doctors as gatekeepers, and leave nothing to the patient. We need to open up the health care business to the consumer. It should be like home improvement: You can either do it yourself and pay someone to do it.
And if they do happen to invent a coin-operated brain surgery machine that works, I look forward to that too. It gives you the option of choosing your options, and may make brain surgery affordable and available to everyone.
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Posted by: Moonray on Jul 18, 2008 3:39 AM
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Oh, the travails of a journalist. The danger, the intrigue . . . the boring dinner parties on Martha's Vineyard. Still, one must press on.
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Posted by: Sum Won on Jul 18, 2008 4:14 AM
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Historical and current examples of self-sufficiency do not differentiate tasks into work and leisure. They term what they do as living.
The explosion of DIY (Do It yourself) is only constrained due to the demands of the exchange network that requires that most of our time is spent working for others.
Industrialization's pursuit of manufacturing excellence eliminated the blue-collar worker. The most efficient plants require no workers and the competitive edge will soon be determined by proximity to market. Information technologies have had the same affect on white-collar workers. Artificial intelligence systems will have a similar impact on the professional classes. If we remain dependant on jobs for a livelihood then we'll eventually have to resort to banning backhoes so that we can hire millions of ditch diggers.
I would suggest for a post industrial society, we need more DIY and less wage slavery.
We need more time to tend our gardens, look after our families, engage our neighbours and be more actively involved in helping our community to also become self sufficient.
Is convenience, being waited on and the glamour of shopping sufficiently worth the price of competing into the ever growing divide of haves and have not?
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Posted by: brer on Jul 18, 2008 4:58 AM
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Why did you have to print one of her worst articles here as what I think might be her first at this site?
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 18, 2008 5:58 AM
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How do I know? I did it. Once.
As far as the average price of food tripling, I think the author means certain staples and grains. Be that as it may, the price of bread, eggs, milk, and cheese have seen increases of less than 30% in my neck of the woods, mostly reflecting inflated transport costs. Perhaps if my wife chose to do our grocery shopping at a Whole Foods or other boutique instead of the supermarket, circular in hand, that would be different.
We still shop and eat well--I pick up bargain-basement clearance meats from the butcher, my wife buys generic branded foods, and we head to the farmers market on Saturday morning--they are getting more and more competitive with the Latin American slave laborers now that the real cost of hauling a head of lettuce (etc) thousands of miles is starting to be realized. The upside is that there is nothing like a home-grown tomato. The down side is that you support your local farmers...well...gee, I guess there really isn't a downside to shopping locally and living frugally, is there?
Now, don't get me wrong: you can spend a lot more money than your budget allows on food, just like you can spend a lot more money than your budget allows on a mortgage, subprime or otherwise.
The moral of the story: A fool and his or her money are soon parted. Newsflash, indeed. That also applies to the author's griping about funding one's own retirement, for the most part. Since when did reaching 67 mean that your neighbor has the absolute responsibility for feeding you and subsidizing your vacations? What if they have kids of their own to feed, and can't afford to take care of more little ones in the form of adult retirees who want to live as carefree as they did when they were three years old?
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Posted by: coldham on Jul 18, 2008 6:20 AM
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In our arguments, he wants me to point out anything that is good that the government does that he could not do better. The reason I think he is senile is that when I point out the road system, he does not get the Public convenience. He does not see that we need public water, public sewage, public electricity, public services, public laws, public everything. For him, all these public-ized government jobs are communism.
He forgets that when we work together, in family units, in civilized units, or groups, we make things a lot easier for ourselves than if we were to do it all by ourselves. Communism is like that. The Communist religious groups like the Shakers or the Amish were like that. The USSR,which we destroyed was like that.
However, if you are interested in operating on your brain all by yourself, be my guest.
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Posted by: astralman on Jul 18, 2008 7:08 AM
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DIY is a product of our high tech industrial lifestyle and not self-sufficiency. it's more craft based and eventually, any real development of skill in DIY leads to a need for the same professional equipment and space used by normal professionals the DIY person is trying to avoid paying. which leads to the same american concept of everyone "their own" one of everything.
Most people have no concept of service anymore because we are beaten over the head with the idea that we must depend only on ourselves and that professionals are just scamming you out of your money or know about as much as you do anyways. There are people who have lots of experience and take pride in doing things well for others. but large profit centered corporations and our throw-away society mentality has completely de-valued the idea of service and quality.
thus you have a lot of crappy DIY and robot operators.
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Posted by: yellow on Jul 18, 2008 7:27 AM
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 AM
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thing that means I don't want to do it myself. I don't expect providers of anything to tell me how to do it myself. I'm not a demanding person, I just know the difference. I cooked for my family of 5 for many years. When I go out to eat I expect someone to bring me what I ask for and I can say thank you. If I want to serve myself I'll stay home and raid the refrigerator. I like to do alot for myself but I want to decide that. I don't want to be ordered around and told about how I can do it myself. I won't shop at a store, spend money and work for them too unless I get a 10% discount. Thanks, ANNA
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Posted by: cyr3n on Jul 18, 2008 8:08 AM
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Only 200 years ago, women made clothes for their whole family.. even spun their own yarn and wove their own cloth! Don't even get me started on the cooking. Fast forward to now and you've got people complaining about scooping their own dog's shit and having to do housework in their 10,000sq ft McMansions because the maids were deported. Seriously, we're such a useless bunch of saps.. the avg 20-yr old guy can't even change a tire without calling AAA.
I think a little bit of DIY would help this country immensly. For one, it would help rebuild domestic craftmanship. For two, it would increase appreciation for people who provide services that the buyer has personally attempted themselves.
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Posted by: chaoslegs on Jul 18, 2008 11:11 AM
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What I don't like that she is unhappy about. Pay at the pump is my salvation from waiting in line behind the cigarette and lottery ticket buyers. Talk about sucking up your time, those folks are horrible to be behind at the gas station just to pay for my gas. So hooray for self serve.
Airline kiosk for e-tickets, well after almost missing a flight in Toronto in 1996 because they were spending time booking a flight for a future flight for this family and we were just lining up behind them, only one counter, I welcome the e-ticket process as a faster process that serves more people. Here in Minneapolis, I can leave my house, grab the bus, transfer to the LRT, check the baggage on my pre-checked in e-ticket and be through security in 40 minutes. Yeah, I am doing some of that extra work, but it sure beats getting stuck behind Captain Clueless that sucks away my time.
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Posted by: CommonDreamer on Jul 18, 2008 9:33 PM
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You can hear the free market hucksters groaning now....(and yes, the market will adjust, as it always has, to fluctuations in the hours of working families etc.) Believe me, families need this much time (and I do mean families of all kinds - not just pregnant women and so on). I don't believe in "maternity leave" (btw I am a woman with a child, so don't think I don't appreciate the concept). But the last time I checked, it takes two to create a family...and everyone needs that time...not just women. We should not be dividing leave into different types...it's a time waster and an activity akin to splitting hairs (another Dilbert effect of corporatization).
For a supposedly forward thinking country, we are really backwards and regressive. I am surprised at how much we buy the Wall Street garbage. We need to redefine success - it's not just profits but the happiness and contentedness and restedness of all persons in a society. And let's not wimp out on that important concept. The Wall Street barons want you to think you're wimps if you want more family time...but really, it's the other way around.
Someday I hope a brave corporation will start new trends to maximize family health in all ways, not profits. Families are stressed enough and we need to stop letting Wall Street (as it is formulated now) from running this country into the ground - right now. DIY is just one more thing on my plate but I'm too tired to enjoy what might be its more interesting aspects, as are most Americans. We can and should change this.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jul 19, 2008 12:39 PM
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I do things myself because I LIKE it. I love that I can repair shit and do my own oil changes (against my landlady's wishes), keep my bike well maintained, grow my own produce and fleurs and upgrade her property so my utility bills go down. For the shit I can't do and don't possess the skills for, I get a pro who'll teach me and then if it's still beyond me I'll hire that pro again later. I sure as hell am not going in pro per in any court in this fragged up legal system, nor am I going to do my own surgery. But cook my food? Damn right. Pump my own gas, big friggin' deal, rich lady.
What I do object to is the corporate prick who charges me a fee to do his job for him or the damned MD who charges me $200 to say, you have a cold (rich fucker!). But Goodman's not worried about that, just having to swipe her own card and pump her own gas?! WTF?! I totally get why Eurosnobs thumb their noses at the big fat spoiled loudmouthed 'Merkaans.
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Bestest of all: Exploitation can be understood as Freedom!
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 22, 2008 9:46 AM
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how freaking lazy can you get?
"WE WANT A COMPLETELY EFFORTLESS SOCIETY!!!": Adam Freeland - 'we want your soul!'
quit whinging & pick up a screwdriver...
all this effort at complaining about effort... wouldn't it be nice if our CONSUMERIST behaviours were slowed down in the slightest by a bit of interaction between ourselves & our immediate environments?
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 18, 2008 3:18 AM
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Here in NJ, you have to wait for the kid to bang on the passenger window, and then spill gas everywhere because he doesn't want to make change...even though I'm paying by credit card.
The DIY grocery line is nice, because I can take my time and make sure they're not overcharging me for an item. If they are, I hit the help button and set off the flashing lights. Plus, all the old ladies who pay in pennies and question every item go to the traditional lines, leaving the DIY lines free.
As for medicine, I'd look forward to that as well. I'd like the option of prescribing my own drugs which, apparently, people did during the first half of the 20th century. With the exception of brain surgery and other obvious things, I don't see why you need to make an appt. and pay an overpaid doctor to see you for 5 seconds for the flu, when you can either diagnose yourself, or pay a nurse, especially since a lot of nurses know more about patients than doctors.
One big hurdle in the health care crisis is the fact that we use doctors as gatekeepers, and leave nothing to the patient. We need to open up the health care business to the consumer. It should be like home improvement: You can either do it yourself and pay someone to do it.
And if they do happen to invent a coin-operated brain surgery machine that works, I look forward to that too. It gives you the option of choosing your options, and may make brain surgery affordable and available to everyone.
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Posted by: Moonray on Jul 18, 2008 3:39 AM
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Oh, the travails of a journalist. The danger, the intrigue . . . the boring dinner parties on Martha's Vineyard. Still, one must press on.
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Posted by: Sum Won on Jul 18, 2008 4:14 AM
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Historical and current examples of self-sufficiency do not differentiate tasks into work and leisure. They term what they do as living.
The explosion of DIY (Do It yourself) is only constrained due to the demands of the exchange network that requires that most of our time is spent working for others.
Industrialization's pursuit of manufacturing excellence eliminated the blue-collar worker. The most efficient plants require no workers and the competitive edge will soon be determined by proximity to market. Information technologies have had the same affect on white-collar workers. Artificial intelligence systems will have a similar impact on the professional classes. If we remain dependant on jobs for a livelihood then we'll eventually have to resort to banning backhoes so that we can hire millions of ditch diggers.
I would suggest for a post industrial society, we need more DIY and less wage slavery.
We need more time to tend our gardens, look after our families, engage our neighbours and be more actively involved in helping our community to also become self sufficient.
Is convenience, being waited on and the glamour of shopping sufficiently worth the price of competing into the ever growing divide of haves and have not?
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Posted by: brer on Jul 18, 2008 4:58 AM
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Why did you have to print one of her worst articles here as what I think might be her first at this site?
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 18, 2008 5:58 AM
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How do I know? I did it. Once.
As far as the average price of food tripling, I think the author means certain staples and grains. Be that as it may, the price of bread, eggs, milk, and cheese have seen increases of less than 30% in my neck of the woods, mostly reflecting inflated transport costs. Perhaps if my wife chose to do our grocery shopping at a Whole Foods or other boutique instead of the supermarket, circular in hand, that would be different.
We still shop and eat well--I pick up bargain-basement clearance meats from the butcher, my wife buys generic branded foods, and we head to the farmers market on Saturday morning--they are getting more and more competitive with the Latin American slave laborers now that the real cost of hauling a head of lettuce (etc) thousands of miles is starting to be realized. The upside is that there is nothing like a home-grown tomato. The down side is that you support your local farmers...well...gee, I guess there really isn't a downside to shopping locally and living frugally, is there?
Now, don't get me wrong: you can spend a lot more money than your budget allows on food, just like you can spend a lot more money than your budget allows on a mortgage, subprime or otherwise.
The moral of the story: A fool and his or her money are soon parted. Newsflash, indeed. That also applies to the author's griping about funding one's own retirement, for the most part. Since when did reaching 67 mean that your neighbor has the absolute responsibility for feeding you and subsidizing your vacations? What if they have kids of their own to feed, and can't afford to take care of more little ones in the form of adult retirees who want to live as carefree as they did when they were three years old?
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Posted by: coldham on Jul 18, 2008 6:20 AM
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In our arguments, he wants me to point out anything that is good that the government does that he could not do better. The reason I think he is senile is that when I point out the road system, he does not get the Public convenience. He does not see that we need public water, public sewage, public electricity, public services, public laws, public everything. For him, all these public-ized government jobs are communism.
He forgets that when we work together, in family units, in civilized units, or groups, we make things a lot easier for ourselves than if we were to do it all by ourselves. Communism is like that. The Communist religious groups like the Shakers or the Amish were like that. The USSR,which we destroyed was like that.
However, if you are interested in operating on your brain all by yourself, be my guest.
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Posted by: astralman on Jul 18, 2008 7:08 AM
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DIY is a product of our high tech industrial lifestyle and not self-sufficiency. it's more craft based and eventually, any real development of skill in DIY leads to a need for the same professional equipment and space used by normal professionals the DIY person is trying to avoid paying. which leads to the same american concept of everyone "their own" one of everything.
Most people have no concept of service anymore because we are beaten over the head with the idea that we must depend only on ourselves and that professionals are just scamming you out of your money or know about as much as you do anyways. There are people who have lots of experience and take pride in doing things well for others. but large profit centered corporations and our throw-away society mentality has completely de-valued the idea of service and quality.
thus you have a lot of crappy DIY and robot operators.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 AM
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thing that means I don't want to do it myself. I don't expect providers of anything to tell me how to do it myself. I'm not a demanding person, I just know the difference. I cooked for my family of 5 for many years. When I go out to eat I expect someone to bring me what I ask for and I can say thank you. If I want to serve myself I'll stay home and raid the refrigerator. I like to do alot for myself but I want to decide that. I don't want to be ordered around and told about how I can do it myself. I won't shop at a store, spend money and work for them too unless I get a 10% discount. Thanks, ANNA
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Posted by: cyr3n on Jul 18, 2008 8:08 AM
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Only 200 years ago, women made clothes for their whole family.. even spun their own yarn and wove their own cloth! Don't even get me started on the cooking. Fast forward to now and you've got people complaining about scooping their own dog's shit and having to do housework in their 10,000sq ft McMansions because the maids were deported. Seriously, we're such a useless bunch of saps.. the avg 20-yr old guy can't even change a tire without calling AAA.
I think a little bit of DIY would help this country immensly. For one, it would help rebuild domestic craftmanship. For two, it would increase appreciation for people who provide services that the buyer has personally attempted themselves.
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Posted by: world traveler on Jul 18, 2008 9:10 AM
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 18, 2008 10:24 AM
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Posted by: chaoslegs on Jul 18, 2008 11:11 AM
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What I don't like that she is unhappy about. Pay at the pump is my salvation from waiting in line behind the cigarette and lottery ticket buyers. Talk about sucking up your time, those folks are horrible to be behind at the gas station just to pay for my gas. So hooray for self serve.
Airline kiosk for e-tickets, well after almost missing a flight in Toronto in 1996 because they were spending time booking a flight for a future flight for this family and we were just lining up behind them, only one counter, I welcome the e-ticket process as a faster process that serves more people. Here in Minneapolis, I can leave my house, grab the bus, transfer to the LRT, check the baggage on my pre-checked in e-ticket and be through security in 40 minutes. Yeah, I am doing some of that extra work, but it sure beats getting stuck behind Captain Clueless that sucks away my time.
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Posted by: CommonDreamer on Jul 18, 2008 9:33 PM
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You can hear the free market hucksters groaning now....(and yes, the market will adjust, as it always has, to fluctuations in the hours of working families etc.) Believe me, families need this much time (and I do mean families of all kinds - not just pregnant women and so on). I don't believe in "maternity leave" (btw I am a woman with a child, so don't think I don't appreciate the concept). But the last time I checked, it takes two to create a family...and everyone needs that time...not just women. We should not be dividing leave into different types...it's a time waster and an activity akin to splitting hairs (another Dilbert effect of corporatization).
For a supposedly forward thinking country, we are really backwards and regressive. I am surprised at how much we buy the Wall Street garbage. We need to redefine success - it's not just profits but the happiness and contentedness and restedness of all persons in a society. And let's not wimp out on that important concept. The Wall Street barons want you to think you're wimps if you want more family time...but really, it's the other way around.
Someday I hope a brave corporation will start new trends to maximize family health in all ways, not profits. Families are stressed enough and we need to stop letting Wall Street (as it is formulated now) from running this country into the ground - right now. DIY is just one more thing on my plate but I'm too tired to enjoy what might be its more interesting aspects, as are most Americans. We can and should change this.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jul 19, 2008 12:39 PM
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I do things myself because I LIKE it. I love that I can repair shit and do my own oil changes (against my landlady's wishes), keep my bike well maintained, grow my own produce and fleurs and upgrade her property so my utility bills go down. For the shit I can't do and don't possess the skills for, I get a pro who'll teach me and then if it's still beyond me I'll hire that pro again later. I sure as hell am not going in pro per in any court in this fragged up legal system, nor am I going to do my own surgery. But cook my food? Damn right. Pump my own gas, big friggin' deal, rich lady.
What I do object to is the corporate prick who charges me a fee to do his job for him or the damned MD who charges me $200 to say, you have a cold (rich fucker!). But Goodman's not worried about that, just having to swipe her own card and pump her own gas?! WTF?! I totally get why Eurosnobs thumb their noses at the big fat spoiled loudmouthed 'Merkaans.
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Posted by: talkville on Jul 19, 2008 11:51 PM
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Bestest of all: Exploitation can be understood as Freedom!
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 22, 2008 9:46 AM
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how freaking lazy can you get?
"WE WANT A COMPLETELY EFFORTLESS SOCIETY!!!": Adam Freeland - 'we want your soul!'
quit whinging & pick up a screwdriver...
all this effort at complaining about effort... wouldn't it be nice if our CONSUMERIST behaviours were slowed down in the slightest by a bit of interaction between ourselves & our immediate environments?
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