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Racism, Sexism and Speed: Can NASCAR Be Saved From Itself?

By Dave Zirin, The Nation. Posted July 12, 2008.


A suit against NASCAR for sexual and racial misconduct may be the best thing that's ever happened to the sport.
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For the last decade, NASCAR has tried to shed its legacy as a sport indelibly linked to the confederate flag. Motorsports execs understand that if their sport is ever to go global, burning rubber can't be associated with burning crosses. However, despite NASCAR's efforts to improve their image, it's still a sport where racism thrives below the surface and sexism in the form of bikini-clad NASCAR eye candy is proudly paraded around the speedway, as much a part of the scenery as the stars and bars. NASCAR is in danger of being marginalized by this contradiction. They're attempting to reach an international audience while displaying the worst kind of backward provincialism.

NASCAR execs' preoccupation with having their cake and eating it too has long been a recipe for disaster. Now there is an ingredient that could ruin their entire corporate feast: Mauricia Grant. In 2005, Grant became the first black, female inspection official in the sport's history. Two years later she was fired. Now Grant has filed a $225 million harassment lawsuit against NASCAR alleging "racial and sexual discrimination, sexual harassment and wrongful termination."

"I loved it. It was a great, exciting, adrenaline-filled job where I worked with fast cars and the best drivers in the world," Grant told The Associated Press. "But there was an ongoing daily pattern [of harassment]. It was the nature of the people I worked with, the people who ran it, it trickled down from the top."

The lawsuit details twenty-three specific incidents of sexual harassment and thirty-four specific incidents of alleged racial and gender discrimination over a two-year span. It is a fairly mindnumbing recitation of similar stories that go well beyond anyone's notion of political correctness.

Grant has accused two NASCAR officials, Tim Knox and Bud Moore, of exposing themselves to her as well. They are now on "indefinite administrative paid leave" although NASCAR suspiciously says it has nothing to do with the lawsuit.

Grant claims she was called "Nappy Headed Mo" and "Queen Sheba." She had a coworker who liked to talk casually about the Ku Klux Klan. Another white official named, oddly enough, David Duke, sent her a text message that read, "I love all Yall mofos i am that niggaHAHAHAHollaPIMPALICIOUS."

So far, NASCAR's response to Grant's allegations has been to go into attack mode. Chairman Brian France said, "The disappointing thing is she makes a lot of claims, none of them reported, The fact that it went on as she stated, for many months, but never bothered to tell anyone at management what was going on--which is what our policy says--is very disappointing." Grant claims she did tell others but that she was told to let it go because her tormenters were "former military guys" with a rough sense of humor.

Mike Wilford,  who is named in the suit and has since left NASCAR, told The Associated Press that Grant was in on the offensive "jokes" the whole time. "Graphic and lewd jokes? She participated in them. She laughed, she would never say it was inappropriate," Wilford claims. "She asked to be called the only two names she was ever called. She called herself Mo Money all the time."

Needless to say, this scandal could destroy NASCAR, or at the very least, put it in permanent marketing purgatory. Ironically the person perhaps best-equipped to save NASCAR from itself is Mauricia Grant.

Grant has said, "We have to work together to change the racist culture. Anyone that has an interest in motorsports, they should be allowed to work in that environment without having to deal with racism or sexism."

Grant's love of motorsports is so intense, so pure, that she can separate the beauty of the sport from the ugly underbelly desperately clinging to its wheels. Perhaps she could even inspire NASCAR fans to get up and demonstrate--whether it be at Daytona or Talladega--to show that intolerance and gender inequality are not the cornerstones of the sport they love.

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Dave Zirin is the author of "What's My Name Fool? Sports and Resistance in the United States." Read more of his work at Edgeofsports.com.

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Can NASCAR Be Saved From Itself?
Posted by: kwalla on Jul 12, 2008 12:57 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
My Lord I hope so! What would we do without people racing in around in circles over and over and over? Just the smell of exhaust and burnt rubber on a hot asphalt tarmac is worth the price of admission alone!

NASCAR: You'll be in MY prayers tonight!

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"Mo Money"
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 12, 2008 12:55 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If "Grant's love of motorsports is so intense, so pure", I'd be interested to know what she'll do with the $225 million. Will she be giving it to poor black orphan children?

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» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: desidid
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: john mont
» "It's worse somewhere else..." Posted by: abbadon2007
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: pdxlinuxchix
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: desidid
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: desidid
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: justAnEgg
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: desidid
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» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: desidid
» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: justAnEgg
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» RE: "Mo Money" Posted by: justAnEgg
Peak Oil and the Average NASCAR Fan
Posted by: IndyDoug on Jul 12, 2008 4:17 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Auto racing is the biggest waste of fuel next to our military industrial complex. The average NASCAR fan can barely fill up his tank to get to the racetrack to watch multi-million dollar car owners and drivers waste fuel going around in circles.

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give me a reason
Posted by: aislinnluv on Jul 12, 2008 4:20 AM   
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that a fuel-wasting, mindless sport like NASCAR should be saved!

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Newest NASCAR Team
Posted by: Sparks56 on Jul 12, 2008 4:29 AM   
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$225 million would be good seed money for a mixed-race/gender NASCAR team. Line up a couple of mega-rich rap stars or athletes as major sponsors. As for minor sponsors; imagine a NASCAR racer with NAACP, ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center, the Nation, NOW, etc. logos all over it.
I like it! I like It!

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Multi-Million Dollars and still shut down. . .
Posted by: Prairie Waif on Jul 12, 2008 5:23 AM   
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Dario Franchitti won last year's Indianapolis 500, the premier auto race in the world and yet this year is finds himself jobless along with 71 other employees.

It isn't just the drivers and owners who suffer, it is support personnel, spin off industries and local economies.

That isn't running in circles; the economy is, around stock holders of those elites that received "W"'s Tax "BREAK".

The rest of us? Run around in circles as we rob Peter to pay Paul and beg one creditor to hold off until the next paycheck or month. WE MOST CERTAINLY are going around and around. . .

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I could do without...
Posted by: chuckjs on Jul 12, 2008 5:24 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
all motorsports racing if it meant I could get cheaper gas to go to work and feed my kids. As much as I love, and you should see the praphinalia, watching fast cars, bikes, and boats racing I cannot think of a more useless, resource wasting sport in the world. Today I saw a sign for $4.41 a gallon gas and these morons burn it up like there is plenty! Gee maybe this would reduce demand by a considerable amount.

Let's not even start discussing the high cost of food and the need to make ethanol from corn to power those great indy and formula one cars. Me and my family really need to starve so those great sportsman can waste fuel proving their worth to the world.

And for those who may say it. The paraphinalia was bought many years ago. I can't afford my food now so that crap is gone. And it is slowly being sold off to cover the increased costs of living.

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Who cares.
Posted by: sausage on Jul 12, 2008 5:51 AM   
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Gee, NASCAR might go t*ts up over this lawsuit? Good.

As a motorsport NASCAR's a wreck already.

It's boring. The races are waaaaaaaaay too long and too many times finish under a yellow caution flag. And if a drop of rain should fall, like a Texas construction worker, NASCAR drivers drop the tools and go to the bar, while effete Formula 1 drivers continuing racing in torrential downpours.

Any resemblance to your auto in the garage and a NASCAR "stock" car is merely in name only. When I was a kid, NASCAR stock cars were just that, Detroit iron my dad could buy off the dealer's lot with a roll-cage, beefed-up brakes and a suped-up engine.

Really, the only reason the rubes who spend their hard-earned paycheck on this trash go is for the beer and boobs.

Let NASCAR die.

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NASCAR is nothing but macho BULLSHIT. And with oil getting tighter and more expensive, let it DIE !
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 12, 2008 5:55 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Besides, there's no real exercise in that sport anyway and driving like a NASCAR driver on the highway could get you in trouble with the law you know.

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» what if we "green" it? Posted by: Zenobia
» RE: what if we "green" it? Posted by: jwverez
» From the '30's to the '70's Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: From the '30's to the '70's Posted by: Dickinseattl
End glorification of cars
Posted by: sliver on Jul 12, 2008 6:27 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Let's just let our national obsession for gas-powered vehicles slip into the history books, and move on to the future.

That goes for those of us who drive convertibles, sports cars, and other gas-suckers that serve no other purpose than to try and show off your vehicle-purchasing ability.

Good job, you bought a cool car. Now what are you going to do to contribute to our culture?

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What about rodeo?
Posted by: sliver on Jul 12, 2008 6:32 AM   
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Rodeo is another all-white, all-redneck sport.

Rodeo could afford a little sensitivity training, too.

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» RE: What about rodeo? Posted by: desidid
» RE: What about rodeo? Posted by: bellydonna
» you people are nuts........ Posted by: pfeifer999
Why would anyone...
Posted by: Bbear41 on Jul 12, 2008 6:35 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...With a bit of taste or intelligence WANT Nastycar to be saved?

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why do we all have to be so serious all the time???
Posted by: ellie on Jul 12, 2008 6:37 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
first off, not a southern NASCAR fan by any means... just love to drive fast and not get tickets on occasion...

even with the understanding that we are already beyond peak oil, walk instead of drive, are a 1 vehicle family and that vehicle rarely moves more then 10 miles a week, and avoid the gas station like the plague,(we were like this even while griping about $1.35 a gallon gas) here goes...

once a year on our anniversary we go for the treat of actually driving NASCAR tracks (individual cars of course)... yes, it is a sport... it takes a lot of concentration, skill and physical ability to manage the car, hit the marks and drive the line with drafting, passing etc...

there is a problem with the professional level of course and it is more sexism then racism... how many women have you ever seen in a cup series??? women can drive, but to get to the elite levels where the $$ is, they are sidelined to the more administrative tasks and support positions beforehand...

where the women drivers are, are in the non-pro class, where you drive because you enjoy it... yes, men still give you a hard time, rude comments and outright sexism, but just hold your ground then drive them into humiliation... filing a lawsuit isn't the best way to handle this kind of sexism, $$ does shut the problem boys up a bit, but these guys are there for the machismo thing and leaving them in the track dust is where it hurts...

with the economy tanking, there are fewer sponsorships this year then last and more unemployed drivers and staff... expect fewer next year and beyond...

the girls for eye candy in NASCAR are no different then pro football cheerleaders and other rah rah sports we encourage our daughters to participate in...

this sport was born of outrunning the ATF to deliver moonshine during prohibition... putting these cars on a track adds a challenge to it and maybe it's time to get back to it's roots, many of the best drivers were women in the 30's making those 'deliveries'...

if we shun everything that is fun (your choice of defining fun)and live in sackcloth and ashes, everything has a cost to it, yes, even breathing has a cost to the planet...

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» Is your last name Clampett? Posted by: countingdaisies
» DUDE, Posted by: pfeifer999
Love to see NASCAR change
Posted by: jnelson4765 on Jul 12, 2008 7:10 AM   
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I live in one of the hotbeds of NASCAR - Richmond, VA. Funny thing is, you go to the dragstrip, it's a hell of a lot more inclusive. Women, men, black, white, all there in the worship of speed.

Plus, a lot of the bikini-girl action is from the sponsors, who love to have their logo stretched across plastic-enhanced boobs - some marketer's idea of how to get the attention of the standard male NASCAR spectator. I'd love to see the sport go back to the level it was in the 70's - factory specials, not a lot of money, and less "I'd like to thank sponsors X, Y and Z for this opportunity" cheeseball interviews.

The racism exists - and nothing short of the next generation taking over is going to do anything about that. The fan base has a lot of the casual bigots that every Southerner knows about - not actively hostile, but generally disliking people who don't look like him. Things might change short of just waiting for them to shed this mortal coil, but I doubt it. We're stubborn down here, and no amount of kumbaya singing is going to change these guys' minds.

Barack Obama may do it - if he can get the wheels put back on the working class economy, that may very well change the opinions of a lot of people. Here's to hoping...

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let it die
Posted by: writer7 on Jul 12, 2008 7:21 AM   
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Nascar is the sport of Budweiser swilling inbreds. I'm not surprised that this woman would have a lawsuit against these morons - I hope she wins every penny. Living in central Ohio, I've worked and had to listen to these idiot Nascar fans for years. They are, without a doubt, the dumbest, most racist and sexist vermin I've ever known. I was amazed at the shit that came out of their mouths, boneheads like these are what got us 8 years of Dubya (they still think he's great)and there's no way they'll vote for Obama - because he's African American (they use a different word - starts with an 'n'). They like McCain! These morons can barely rub two nickels together and they vote republican every fucking time. Let Nascar die, maybe when it does the inbreds that love it will retreat to the hollars that spawned them. Bitter? Nah, not me.

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Toscanini
Posted by: Toscanini on Jul 12, 2008 8:02 AM   
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Racism and sexism are words created since I graduated college. Nasty things, these isms, but I wonder about a double standard here. Shall we invent words such as redneckism, budweiserism, and boobism for loyal NASCAR fans to use against their detractors? I happen to be neither a NASCAR fan, nor a beer-drinker. My tastes run to classical music, literature, and philosophy. I feel certain that there are civilized characters on my side of the fence as well as inside the raceway who agree on the simple principle of "live and let live". It is as wrong to generalize about NASCAR enthusiats as it is to generalize about homosexuals, women, and persons of color. As Ann Landers used to say, perhaps it is time to MYOB.

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» RE:Whose Philosophy Posted by: desidid
» RE: Toscanini Posted by: bellydonna
» Bingo Posted by: pfeifer999
Just discovered a new reason to hate today's NASCAR
Posted by: sausage on Jul 12, 2008 8:04 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Too bad we can't post jpegs, so here's the link to another Thomas Kinkard bastardpiece--
http://coloradoseasons.com/nascar.php--NASCAR Thunder.

It's so lovely you'll wanna puke!

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Space Shuttle
Posted by: Dboy on Jul 12, 2008 8:33 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
NASCAR is making a big mistake getting rid of the space shuttle. oh, wait. nevermind.

Am amazed to see the word "NASCAR" on Alternet..you people are FULL of surprises.

dboy

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MotoGP Umbrella Girls
Posted by: perkywa on Jul 12, 2008 10:28 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
One of the biggest sports in Europe (and the World) is MotoGP motorcycle racing which has one of the most sexist "traditions" going...Umbrella Girls. The umbrella girls are local super model types paid to dress in band-aids and hold an umbrella over the rider on the grid. They also get groped and take pictures with the male fans in between races. There are and never has been any female MotoGP racer.

Sexism is not the exclusive property of NASCAR...it is in all forms of racing...SO WHAT? Grow Up.

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» And yet..... Posted by: pfeifer999
The Czarina
Posted by: Alterina on Jul 12, 2008 12:15 PM   
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I've been wondering when someone was going to start making noise about the amount of fuel used and the pollution produced by NASCAR, SCCA, and the various other racing organizations. As exciting as some of the aspects of the sport can be, auto racing is hugely wasteful.

I have a close associate who fields a racing team. He owns an 18-wheeler which hauls 3 to 5 race cars from east coast to west coast, from Canada to Florida. Once at the track, the high-power low-MPG cars go around and around for practice and qualifying laps and then run the races, all the while using leaded gas.

I used to love racing back when an old boyfriend was a very skilled driver, and always thought I'd try it someday. But we can't afford the sport any more.

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» Not all that bad Posted by: pfeifer999
No REAL News Here
Posted by: BobNoxious on Jul 12, 2008 5:29 PM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Everyone knows most NASCAR fans are ignorant, racist, red-neck morons. And they're PROUD of that!

PROUD OF IT!!!

I can't stand NASCAR. Watching red-necks drive in circles for three and a half hours? No thanks.
(Formula One is the REAL state of the art in racing technology, anyway.)

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I see we've found a lightning rod here.
Posted by: movieluddite on Jul 12, 2008 10:19 PM   
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Very interesting group of comments I've seen on this article. Very interesting, indeed.

Some folks apparently have a need to look down their greener-than-thou noses at NASCAR, while others think NASCAR's fans are all one subspecies of lesser humans and easy targets because of it.

NASCAR is more out in the open about its energy use than other traveling-roadshow types of entertainment, so it seems that gives license to trash the organization on general principles. Couple that with the stereotype some folks have of the "typical NASCAR fan" (i. e., someone less-educated, lower-income, less-sophisticated, further right politically and more openly racist than themselves) and we have a fine recipe for a good dose of "They're just a**holes, let 'em all rot."

I wonder what these folks have to prove, other than their noses are stuck so far in the air they could be used as satellites.

I've seen far more flat-out racism and sexism (along with "We are the elite, they are mere rabble" attitudes) on college campuses and in management offices than I've seen from all the NASCAR fans I know.

Don't think for a moment I don't know what racism and sexism look like. My other vehicles have either dual V-16 3000 HP diesel engines or 6000 electric horses at 90+mph. And "girls" didn't play with trains 30-some years ago when I hired out.

The remarks I've seen here speak volumes.

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observer
Posted by: davy on Jul 13, 2008 12:23 AM   
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In short, "NO" America has had ample time to wake up but it just continues to get dumb and dumber. Not long now. NAS what? Never fly in Europe, way too merican and were too busy laughing at you.

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The REAL story that they didn't give you....
Posted by: pfeifer999 on Jul 13, 2008 5:47 AM   
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I have to preface by saying I'm not a NASCAR fan, and I have no connection to the sport.

Did any of you stop to notice that the lawsuit was for $225,000,000?! Did anybody notice that in the "journalist"'s view, NASCAR was guilty until proved innocent?

That to my mind is the real story.

I have no idea whether the NASCAR executives exposed themselves to Ms. Grant, nor do I know whether her skin color had anything to do with her termination. (In fact, I see far more African Americans wearing NASCAR gear where I live than I do caucasians.)

And while the other posters on this article clearly have already made up their minds, nobody posting here on Alternet will ever know the truth of these allegations, either. Nor do any of them seem the least bit interested in finding out. Their knee jerk reaction is "of course NASCAR is at fault....screw them!" (It's rather funny, really, quite like the 'burn the witch' scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail.)

How many of you have forwarded an email that contained a phrase that could be construed to be racist slur, IF you pulled that one sentence out of context?

How many of you have stood by and laughed while someone told a lewd joke in the office, at the expense of a coworker?

We have ABSOLUTELY no evidence given in this article for any of the behaviours described. What we have is a set of ALLEGATIONS that are being pumped by a hostile author to condemn an organization that brings entertainment, jobs and R&D opportunity for the auto industry. (Yes, it's true, go do a google search for Toyota and NASCAR.)

The author never seriously questions how Ms. Grant could justify a $225,000,000 suit for wrongful termination. That figure is a joke, and even if this whole suit wasn't a premeditated attempt to blackmail NASCAR, the lawyer who took on the suit is clearly pumping it up to turn it into blackmail.

The real story here? The author of this article is using the same exact lynch-mob methods, and the readership apparently allows the same kind of lynch-mob mentality, of the Jim Crow KKK.

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» My position is the same as yours Posted by: pfeifer999
Racism and sexism are indeed the subjects of the lawsuit.
Posted by: movieluddite on Jul 13, 2008 3:19 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The comments here, though, seem to be using the lawsuit as an excuse to vent prejudices about stock-car racing, NASCAR, and stock-car racing fans.

Most of the comments boil down to, "NASCAR uses too much gas, so that makes it worthless right there," "NASCAR fans are Not Our Kind Of People," and "They're scum because of who they are, throw 'em all under the bus!"

Seems some folks have a need to look down their noses at someone else. Lawsuit or no lawsuit.

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» And of course the irony is...... Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: And of course the irony is...... Posted by: movieluddite
» RE: And of course the irony is...... Posted by: movieluddite
SERIOUS HERE, NOT BEING FACETIOUS
Posted by: pfeifer999 on Jul 13, 2008 4:51 PM   
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Who would support a race circuit for high MPG cars?

Back in the 30's through the 70's, a lot of motorsport energy was devoted to TSD rallying --- time, speed, distance --- which had nothing to do with raw horsepower, and a lot to do with managing fuel and driving with some precision.

If anyone in the Alternetscape is willing to put their money where their mouth is, I would LOVE to organize some alternative motorsport events.....to the point where I would quit my day job to do it.

Post here to express interest, or email me: pariter@yahoo.com.

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Resource waste, pollution & NOISE... save it for what?
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 13, 2008 5:45 PM   
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If every NASCAR track was cannibalized tomorrow to make way for solar car engineering competitions...

the World would be better off.

NASCAR: IS THERE ANYTHING MORE USELESS, MIND-NUMBING & DESTRUCTIVE THAT DOESN'T COME FROM the MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX?

NASCAR: entertainment for the inbred.

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Non Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks
Posted by: Stoney 12+1 on Jul 14, 2008 6:05 PM   
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I drag race. I run hard and fast for the finish line! I don't drive around in circles for hours trying to find it!

Drag racing has ALWAYS opened our ranks to women and people of color.

In the little town of Greer South Carolina where we race at the Greer Drag Way, you'll find all sorts of people in the stands, pits, and staging lanes! Black folks, Latino Folks, Women Folks, and all sorts of folks are out there every week, and the sport is better for it!

I've had many different colored hands under the hood of the old Mustang, and my hands have been under more than a few myself!

This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for NASCAR. It did a world of good for NHRA.

When Shirley Muldowney pulled up to the staging lanes in her first top fuel car, Don Garlits, and Connie Kalita stood up for her, and signed her competitors license!! This wasn't an act of chivalry or deference! SHE EARNED IT!!!! These guys are going to be driving a race car right next to her at 250 miles an hour. They don't put their names to something like that, unless they've given it some SERIOUS thought!

If you've earned it, GO GET IT!!! You've EARNED IT!! It's YOURS!!! Stand up, and you'll find people in that organization that are willing to stand with you, if it's worth a shit!

When you earn the respect of your coworkers, or competitors, you are NEVER going to stand alone! And if you do, then that organization isn't worthy of your respect! Separate yourself from it, and don't look back!

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NASCAR is doomed to die....two words;
Posted by: Thetorganization on Jul 15, 2008 10:40 AM   
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PEAK OIL!

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The predictable fuzzy brained luddite response.
Posted by: Dickinseattl on Jul 15, 2008 6:58 PM   
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How is it that when it comes to one of the most interesting and exciting sports known to mankind today, so many with absolutely no knowledge or appreciation of the sport all have intense and committed negative opinions without ever having been to or participated in said sport? The reactionary response from so many apparent liberals(?) seems too irresistable for them to not open their mouths and prove their ignorance. Just because you may have no mechanical skills doesn't mean you might not enjoy the competition which is fierce, let alone the speed and all that goes with it. In the sports world today there is no area black minorities have not been able to prove themselves worthy of competing and often dominating, which clearly includes auto racing today (and yesterday!). There will always be challenges for whoever is in a minority position regardless of the sport or enculturated event, but let's not overgeneralize inspired by our own ignorance.

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Strange situation
Posted by: xmvince on Jul 16, 2008 10:35 AM   
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Well, it doesn't say why she was fired which is pretty much the most important thing that I wanted to know.. But I'll try and make a judgment anyways:
The "racist" comments sounded mostly like jokes, not directed to offend, but maybe to lighten the situation as I doubt many of the Nascar officials feel comfortable around minorities (although that clown probably shouldn't have been talking about the KKK). She does not deserve anywhere close to $225 mil, maybe 1 or 2 mil, but it sounds more like she is just looking for a way to get more money. Nascar is a waste of oil and if they don't acknowledge this waste and try to fix it, then they will destroy themselves anyway most likely, but for now I am on Nascars side for this one as it seems all the racial comments were pretty light, and there was no physical abuse going on so all in all if her feelings were hurt, and she really wants all that money, then she is a weak person. Maybe a more reasonable thing would be for her to get her job back and then report racist remarks and have her clean up Nascar herself instead of stealing $225 mil from them.

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