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Obama Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own House

By Bob Ostertag, Huffington Post. Posted July 5, 2008.


Obama campaign tries to control the impact of his stance on FISA.

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In an unprecedented attempt to put out a fire in his own house, Senator Barack Obama yesterday issued a response to supporters who had been protesting his position on government surveillance. The release was followed by an 90 minute interchange on MyBarackObama.com between campaign officials and supporters (though as far as I could tell, the campaign officials made no comments themselves but just read the comments being made, leaving it unclear who was actually reading and for how long)..

Unfortunately, there was nothing in Obama's response that addressed the harsh criticism some of his supporters have voiced. I could go into detail on why the statement stinks, but since this is the Internet I don't have to, since I can instead direct you to the excellent point-by-point analysis offered by Glenn Greenwald. My focus here will be the novel political dynamic unleashed by the Obama campaign's social networking site, MyBarackObama.com.

These are uncharted waters we are dealing with here. Yesterday I asked the question whether 18,000 people protesting on the campaign's own web site (out of hundreds of thousands) were a lot or a little. Apparently they were enough to get the attention of the campaign and the candidate.

The comments were a mix of people who were star-struck that Obama had noticed them and written a reply, people who felt any criticism on the site was inappropriate, people who just spouted typical Internet invective at each other, but then an awful lot of extremely informed and thoughtful people who did not back down an inch.

Some defending Obama's position questioned whether the protestors were really from the Obama camp or were Republicans who had logged on to wreak havoc. However, since MyBarackObama.com is a full-fledged social networking site, one can check the profile of each commenter, see how long they have been active on the site, what action groups they are part of, and so on. It appeared that many angry critics were people who had put a lot of time and money into the campaign.

The whole episode raised more questions than it answered. Certainly what is going on here is something new. There are going to be many more controversial issues. A presidential candidate can't always be having to log on to the Internet to defend himself from his own supporters. I am reminded The Obama campaign promised to give its supporters new Internet tools to empower them to make the campaign their own. Now that it as done so, the leadership has to be wondering if it was a good idea. of the musicians who have figured out how to make modest livelihoods marketing their music directly to fans over MySpace, only to discover that doing requires spending hours every day maintaining the sort of direct relationship fans on social networking sites expect.

On the other hand, overall this has to be considered a victory for, and an extension of, democracy. This is a clear-cut case of a candidate promising one thing and doing another. Turns out that in the age of the online campaign there will be a higher price for this time-honored activity.

The folks at Obama HQ better tighten their saddle. They have let the horse out of the barn, and it might be a bumpy ride.

* Some sample comments:

Frankly, I'm disappointed. No, Senator Barack, it's not a "deal breaker". But even using these words is almost like taunting your position in our face. Almost like you are taking our votes for granted because you know we have not choice but to vote for you. No, I don't want McCain, but I can say with clarity that my personal enthusiasm, and many of others who I talk to, have certainly diminished by a huge margin.

At the end of the day, the question is, do you want your supporters to vote for you because you are the lesser of the two evils, because they have "no choice" when comparing the alternative (as you say yourself) or do you want people to vote for you because they are proud of what you stand for?

- Christine

Christine, I, too, did not like that "deal breaker" line. I felt like it was dismissive, especially when he has been trying soo hard to get the gun advocates, the evangelicals, the death penalty advocates...It's like, ok, get lost. I got plenty more voters and money!! What has happened to him???

- JonnieRae

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Posted by: Turiye on Jul 5, 2008 12:55 PM   
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talk the talk
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Jul 6, 2008 4:50 PM   
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better walk the walk. people are tired of the bullshit. and you can be out in a heartbeat. I'm 57 and he's no messiah. I've lived this long without bobby and john kennedy. so cut the bullshit.

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"Deal-breaker?"
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jul 6, 2008 8:34 PM   
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He dared to say that? Because it is.

A line in the quoted comments really bothered me:
"Almost like you are taking our votes for granted because you know we have not choice but to vote for you."

Exactly as if, of course. But IT ISN'T TRUE. We have lots of choices: Cynthia McKinney for the Greens, Ralph Nader, even Bob Barr for the Libertarians, if you want to make a specific point about FISA. Of course, the others are pretty libertarian, too.

None are McCain. At least McKinney (my own choice) or Nader would be far better than Obama.

And the truth is, this year you have a free shot: McCain hasn't a hope in Hell, unless the Dems deliberately give it to him. Obama polls about ten points ahead, even with Nader picking up 6%! & this will be a good year for the Libertarians, too, further undercutting the Rethugs.

Yes, it's a deal-breaker, and not the first one, either.

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leftbank
Posted by: markw4786 on Jul 12, 2008 11:14 AM   
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The only real progressive is NADER. For those who say a vote for Nader is avote for McCain, I say BS...a vote for Nader is a vote for Nader...a true progressive. Obama is a fraud.

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As long as the people are willing to accept bullshit, that is what they will get
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jul 21, 2008 11:58 AM   
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At the end of the day, Obama after having his aides analyze their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, they computed the price/cost probabilities of this transaction (Vote For/Against FISA).

We no longer live in a nation of ideologies.

He knows, KNOWS, that he will lose almost none of his supporters by voting yes on FISA.

He knows, KNOWS, that he will gain more votes by supporting this FISA bill.

At the end of the day Obama supporters only have themselves to blame for his vote. Your unwillingness for this vote to be a deal-breaker allowed him to vote for it.

It is not too late though, you can still not vote for him come November. The choice is yours.

When the public is no longer willing to accept this kind of bullshit that Obama just passed off, we will no longer get this bullshit from our politicians.

Demand more or vote for someone else, don't wuss out!!!

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