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Are Obama's Supporters Getting a Centrist Candidate They Never Bargained for?

By Paul Krugman, The New York Times. Posted July 1, 2008.


We could -- and still might -- do a lot worse than a rerun of the Clinton years. But Mr. Obama’s most fervent supporters expect much more.
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It's feeling a lot like 1992 right now. It's also feeling a lot like 1980. But which parallel is closer? Is Barack Obama going to be a Ronald Reagan of the left, a president who fundamentally changes the country's direction? Or will he be just another Bill Clinton?

Current polls -- not horse-race polls, which are notoriously uninformative until later in the campaign, but polls gauging the public mood -- are strikingly similar to those in both 1980 and 1992, years in which an overwhelming majority of Americans were dissatisfied with the country's direction.

So the odds are that this will be a "change" election -- which means that it's very much Mr. Obama's election to lose. But if he wins, how much change will he actually deliver?

Reagan, for better or worse -- I'd say for worse, but that's another discussion -- brought a lot of change. He ran as an unabashed conservative, with a clear ideological agenda. And he had enormous success in getting that agenda implemented. He had his failures, most notably on Social Security, which he tried to dismantle but ended up strengthening. But America at the end of the Reagan years was not the same country it was when he took office.

Bill Clinton also ran as a candidate of change, but it was much less clear what kind of change he was offering. He portrayed himself as someone who transcended the traditional liberal-conservative divide, proposing "a government that offers more empowerment and less entitlement." The economic plan he announced during the campaign was something of a hodgepodge: higher taxes on the rich, lower taxes for the middle class, public investment in things like high-speed rail, health care reform without specifics.

We all know what happened next. The Clinton administration achieved a number of significant successes, from the revitalization of veterans' health care and federal emergency management to the expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and health insurance for children. But the big picture is summed up by the title of a new book by the historian Sean Wilentz: The Age of Reagan: A history, 1974-2008.

So whom does Mr. Obama resemble more? At this point, he's definitely looking Clintonesque.

Like Mr. Clinton, Mr. Obama portrays himself as transcending traditional divides. Near the end of last week's "unity" event with Hillary Clinton, he declared that "the choice in this election is not between left or right, it's not between liberal or conservative, it's between the past and the future." Oh-kay.

Mr. Obama's economic plan also looks remarkably like the Clinton 1992 plan: a mixture of higher taxes on the rich, tax breaks for the middle class and public investment (this time with a focus on alternative energy).

Sometimes the Clinton-Obama echoes are almost scary. During his speech accepting the nomination, Mr. Clinton led the audience in a chant of "We can do it!" Remind you of anything?

Just to be clear, we could -- and still might -- do a lot worse than a rerun of the Clinton years. But Mr. Obama's most fervent supporters expect much more.

Progressive activists, in particular, overwhelmingly supported Mr. Obama during the Democratic primary even though his policy positions, particularly on health care, were often to the right of his rivals'. In effect, they convinced themselves that he was a transformational figure behind a centrist facade.

They may have had it backward.

Mr. Obama looks even more centrist now than he did before wrapping up the nomination. Most notably, he has outraged many progressives by supporting a wiretapping bill that, among other things, grants immunity to telecom companies for any illegal acts they may have undertaken at the Bush administration's behest.

The candidate's defenders argue that he's just being pragmatic -- that he needs to do whatever it takes to win, and win big, so that he has the power to effect major change. But critics argue that by engaging in the same "triangulation and poll-driven politics" he denounced during the primary, Mr. Obama actually hurts his election prospects, because voters prefer candidates who take firm stands.

In any case, what about after the election? The Reagan-Clinton comparison suggests that a candidate who runs on a clear agenda is more likely to achieve fundamental change than a candidate who runs on the promise of change but isn't too clear about what that change would involve.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Mr. Obama really is a centrist, after all.

One thing is clear: for Democrats, winning this election should be the easy part. Everything is going their way: sky-high gas prices, a weak economy and a deeply unpopular president. The real question is whether they will take advantage of this once-in-a-generation chance to change the country's direction. And that's mainly up to Mr. Obama.

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Light Calvary
Posted by: carbon-based on Jul 1, 2008 5:26 AM   
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Reagan was in a class by himself..anyone here who remembers the 80's American moral was in the dumper. Welfare was being abused like crazy, handouts for everyone, the military needed revamping, American strength was perceived at an all time low.. Reagan had the vision, political strength and organization skills to effect major change. (regardless if you agreed or not). I personally do!

I don't see Clinton near the same league as Reagan. Obama seems to be a lightweight but the comparison isn't exactly fair.. Obama has little experience. We are counting on him being able to garner support for his vision of change. I don't see him nearly strong enough to push through a far left vision, nor is America ready for such a vision.

He has to be a centrist - he needs to be able to enlist the support of both sides. democrats will jump on the wagon even if it's running into a burning barn. Repubs are harder. (how does Bush run roughshod over a democrat controlled congress - weenies they are!)

My bet, and hope is Obama isnt the" most liberal" his small record shows. I'm betting he is much more center. My real concern remaining with him is taxes.. It looks as though he will tax the middle class and small business owners into the ground. If that happens he will join Carter in a one term wonder!

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I'LL TAKE THE CLINTON YEARS, THANK YOU
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 1, 2008 7:23 AM   
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I don't want "faith based anything". Choice of religion is MINE. That jumped out at me this morning. Is Obama looking like Reagan? No. Try Bush. Pictures of him suddenly have that 'other worldly' spiritual look. And I was looking forward to someone dusting off the Constitution. Strange things began happening to Obama when Clinton left the race. It's not about centrism, it's about the Right. No more pandering to the poor I guess. ANNA

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Obama a 'Centrist'? only if the center has shifted further right so that there
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 AM   
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is right on either side of center...

Obama was never a progressive, and now it is obvious he is not even a liberal.

He was and remains, a neoliberal candidate.

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Here Are Lists Of Our Congressional Traitors
Posted by: TarryFaster on Jul 1, 2008 10:57 AM   
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In a five hour fit of anger and frustration, I dug up the names and contact information on the "Democratic" House & Senator traitors who voted to approve the latest version of the "Compromise FISA bill" -- which destroys our Fourth Amendment.  I put up the two lists on the Net as websites and will now go about "promoting" them.  Ideally, with your help, we could bring this site to the attention of enough people to develop a viral network that could then gain critical mass among voters to remove these traitors.

Here are the sites: 

For House "Representatives": http://www.cloudbyte.com/traitors.html
For "Senators": http://www.cloudbyte.com/senatetraitors.html

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Really looks that way ...
Posted by: Malbone on Jul 2, 2008 11:15 AM   
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It hasn't been a good week for change. Now that Obama's raised 43 million bucks, he tells his supporters that he's more supportive of the death penalty than the Bush Supreme Court; he wants to immunize telecoms from FISA; he's fine with more Americans having guns; he wants to reform health care by getting more Americans to buy more health insurance; and now he wants to continue the "faith-based initiatives" program that simply puts tax dollars into the coffers of evangelical churches.

To top it off, when Obama supporter Wesley Clark stated the obvious -- that riding in a plane and spending years in a POW camp, while deserving of respect, does not add anything to one's qualifications for being President -- Obama failed to seize the opportunity to hit back and effectively conceded the point.

Although Obama admires Ronald Reagan's talents as a communicator and at driving the agenda of Washington, Reagan wouldn't have taken that stuff for a moment. He would have defended Clark and changed the subject to welfare fraud.

And Obama's timing of some of these announcements -- waiting until the Supreme Court has ruled the other way, so they will never be tested politically -- smacks of craven opportunism but without the lighthanded touch of Bill Clinton. He's starting to sound like that character Kristen Wiig plays on SNL -- "Yeah, I was for executing child rapists; in fact, I was for executing them twice and then feeding their remains to sharks on live TV."

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Yet another politician shows his true stripes...
Posted by: Farasien on Jul 7, 2008 6:31 AM   
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Obama garnered alot of hope that his was an administration, like those of the greats in american politics, that would take us in a radically new (and desperately needed) direction. Whith his lunge to the right, he's outed his true intentions to continue the policies and methods of the elite corporate and special interests, thus screwing the public and enriching his masters. In so doing, he has chosen his side yet again. I hope everyone remembers this if and when he's elected so they know who is to blame for the situation.

Its my prediction that in a few years' time, we'll be cursing the Obama administration with as much bile and poison as we currently do the bu$h debacle, and when we do, its us, and only us that we'll have to blame.

Screw the washington Big 2; I'm voting 3'd party until I die.

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