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Getting Past the 'Protein Myth' That Keeps People from Quitting Meat and Dairy

By Kathy Freston, Huffington Post. Posted June 3, 2008.


The way Americans obsess about protein, you'd think protein deficiency was the number one health problem in America. Of course it's not.

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When I tell people that I'm a vegan, the most popular question, by far, inevitably follows: "But, how do you get enough protein?"

There it is again, I think, the meat industry's most potent weapon against vegetarianism -- the protein myth. And it is just that -- a myth.

In fact, humans need only 10 percent of the calories we consume to be from protein. Athletes and pregnant women need a little more, but if you're eating enough calories from a varied plant based diet, it's close to impossible to not to get enough.

The way Americans obsess about protein, you'd think protein deficiency was the number one health problem in America. Of course it's not -- it's not even on the list of the ailments that doctors are worried about in America or any other countries where basic caloric needs are being met.

What is on the list? Heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity -- diseases of affluence. Diseases linked to eating animal products. According to the American Dietetic Association, which looked at all of the science on vegetarian diets and found not just that they're healthy, but that they "provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."

They continue: "Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence ... Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer."

Dr. Dean Ornish writes of his Eat More, Weigh Less vegetarian diet -- the one diet that has passed peer-review for taking weight off and keeping it off for more than 5 years -- that in addition to being the one scientifically proven weight loss plan that works long-term, it "may help to prevent a wide variety of other illnesses including breast cancer in women, prostate cancer in men, colon cancer, lung cancer, lymphoma, osteoporosis, diabetes, hypertension, and so on ...."

So when people ask me about protein, I explain that protein is not a problem on a vegan diet, that the real problems that are plaguing us in the West can be addressed in part with a vegetarian diet, and that I get my protein the same way everyone else does -- I eat!

Beans, nuts, seeds, lentils, and whole grains are packed with protein. So are all vegetables as a caloric percentage, though they don't have enough calories to sustain most people as a principal source of sustenance. And these protein sources have some excellent benefits that animal protein does not -- they contain plenty of fiber and complex carbohydrates, where meat has none. That's right: Meat has no complex carbs at all, and no fiber. Plant proteins are packed with these essential nutrients.

Plus, since plant-based protein sources don't contain cholesterol or high amounts of saturated fat, they are much better for you than meat, eggs, and dairy products.

It is also worth noting the very strong link between animal protein and a few key diseases, including cancer and osteoporosis.


According to Dr. Ornish
(this may be the most interesting link in this article, by the way -- it's worth reading the entire entry), "high-protein foods, particularly excessive animal protein, dramatically increase the risk of breast cancer, prostate cancer, heart disease, and many other illnesses. In the short run, they may also cause kidney problems, loss of calcium in the bones, and an unhealthy metabolic state called ketosis in many people."


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Great post--very balanced. Here's why I'm a vegetarian:
Posted by: brucegfriedrich on Jun 3, 2008 12:22 AM   
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Slaughterhouses are perhaps the most violent places on the planet. Animals are routinely sent kicking and screaming through the skinning and dismemberment process, every one bleeding and dying exactly like they would if they were human beings.

Farms today treat animals like so many boxes in a warehouse, chopping off beaks and tails and genitals with no painkillers at all, inflicting third degree burns (branding), ripping out teeth, and hunks of flesh.

Animals transported to slaughter routinely die from the heat or the cold, or freeze to the sides of the transport trucks or to the bottom in their own excrement. Dairy cows and egg laying hens endure the same living nightmare as their brethren who are raised for their flesh, except that their time on the "farm" is longer. They are still shipped to the slaughterhouse and killed, at a fraction of their natural life span.

There is simply no excuse for anyone who considers herself or himself to be an ethical human being, let alone an "animal lover," to be supporting these kinds of practices, all of which are routine and universal throughout the industries which turn animals into eggs and meat and dairy products.

If I can't watch it happening, I want no part of it. I enjoy watching fields tilled and love picking apples and tomatoes and carrots and other vegetarian products. If slaughterhouses had glass walls, as Paul McCartney is so fond of saying, we would all be vegetarians.

Every time I sit down to eat, I make a decision about who I am in the world: Do I want to add to the level of violence, misery, and bloodshed in the world? Or, do I want to make a compassionate and merciful choice?

There is so much violence in the world, from war torn regions of Africa and Europe, to our own inner cities. Most of this violence is difficult to understand, let alone influence.

Veganism is one area where each and every one of us can make a difference, every time we sit down to eat. I find it empowering that I can make an option for peace and compassion every time I eat, simply by not encouraging violence and misery against animals.

Visit linked text to see how meat is made.

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» Typical vege-fundamentalism Posted by: brunowe
Superb piece--kudos to the Alternet for posting it.
Posted by: TwinsFanatic on Jun 3, 2008 1:46 AM   
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I know the Alternet gets some flak for posting these pro-veg pieces, and a lot of the negative comments seem like they're from the O'Reilly nation. Comments in advance:

1) This article backs up its health claims by citing peer-reviewed research and top health bodies. If someone is going to make an alternative claim, they should at least provide some sort of backing for it. The anti-veg side can't actually do that, I don't think, so it will post all kinds of assertions w/o substantiation.

Seriously, this post cites the American Dietetic Association position paper on vegetarian and vegan diets--based on a look at all the science--and they say that the science indicates that the diet is good for everyone.

And Dr. Dean Ornish, the formost heart researcher in the world and the only researcher to help people lose weight and keep it off in peer-reviewed research.

If people are going to debate these things, they're going to have to use hyperbole, anecdote, and unsubstantiated claims. At least that's how it's gone previously when there have been pro-veg articles here.

2) Other animals deserve some compassion, and animal protection deserves to be considered along with other social justice movements, so an article about how to eat a compassionate diet makes a ton of sense here.

The Alternet has tons of articles on the range of progressive causes, so a veg article on occasion fits in nicely. Everyone agrees that cruelty is wrong; shouldn't progressives be on the front lines of defended those who are least able to defend themselves?

Anyway, kudos to the Alternet for posting this piece.

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hearthless Data
Posted by: El Hombre Malo on Jun 3, 2008 2:21 AM   
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And correct Data, I must add.

This article provides a lot of Data that supports the viavility of a vegan diet... even for athletes! (wich I am not). To te extent of my knowledge, all the data is true, and I am pretty sure what I cant verify on my own is also sure.

(I would like to make an objection tho: the article mentions lesser rates of certain diseases in vegans when compared to meat-consuming population. That is misleading. Vegans, more often than not, are health conscious people that mind when they eat, but also exercise more often than not. Taken as a whole, non-vegetarian people have all the wrong numbers, but if you compare vegans to health conscious carnivorous exercisers, the differences wont be as dramatic at all.)

The article provides a sensible explanation of the health benefits of a vegan diet. And I still dont buy it.

Because the body is a machine, but is more than that. Because eating os more than refueling.

Food is culture. Food is heritage and art. And it is also the most popular form of art mankind has ever known. Everyone can cook! Recipes are partiures and every dish served a performance. And meat, every meat, is another color in the canvas or an instrument in the orchestra. Would you stop listening to any piece with an oboe in it? refuse to contemplate any paint with blue of it? I know, its corny...

Food is a part of people's culture. Both nations and families. And certain food can be bad (or not-too-good) for you, but to skip it... is'nt it like burying all of Wagner's opera's because he was an anit-semitist? getting Huckelberry Finn out of public libraries because the word "nigger" is written in it? And dont think it can't happen: food get forbidden all the time; some american cities have forbidden (or are in the process of doing it) the foie de canard on animal cruelty charges, refusing to aknowledged the many farmers who fatten duck liver without forced feeding. Forbidding culture on a moral high ground basis. Burning books is the next step.

Because, ultimately, for too many vegans, health is just a side benefit of their option, the main beign a puritanic righteousness. A savior complex. And they need to tell everyone how terribly wrong is to eat meat, dont you see?

Dont take me wrong... I enjoy my veggies more than most. I make a killer lentil-and-pumkin curry, my hummus draw crowds... And you should try my Berza. But when I decide to make chicken breasts in a beer and onion bed, just save your opinion until you have tasted it. Moralistic considerations are offlimits in my kitchen.

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Vegans get plenty of high-quality protein!
Posted by: ramsey on Jun 3, 2008 4:19 AM   
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Not only do I eat as much protein as a vegan as I did as a meat-eater years ago, but the quality of the protein is much higher. As an athlete, I'm pretty sensitive to how my body reacts to what I eat. Plant-based proteins such as beans, nuts and soy is much easier to metabolize. I wholeheartedly back what Kathy says, she's right on the money with this.

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» RE: Here's the link Posted by: Jasonix
Watch yourself
Posted by: PJT on Jun 3, 2008 4:37 AM   
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By and large I agree, from my own experience. The key to the article, however is in the phrase "well planned" vegan diets provide the protein. By well planned we mean just that: you have to plan your diet completely, or achieve the same end by eating systematically so that you don't have to think about every meal. If you just graze and munch you will wind up with deficiencies, absent animal or fish protein.

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As El Hombre stated...
Posted by: Noya on Jun 3, 2008 4:39 AM   
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...most vegans and vegetarians eat a healthy (2,000 or less) amount of calories and also walk/ride bikes/etc. on a regular basis due to their "hippy" mantra or lifestyle. Yes, I know vegans well. My cousin and her boyfriend own/operate a vegan eatery in a major city.

You can eat a variety of (even junky) foods and if you keep your calories at less than or equal to what you burn, you're not going to suffer most of the afformentioned health risks in the article (especially if even 20min of cardio are done every day). Like myself for instance.

I eat a fairly repetitive diet for nearly all but two or three "cheat" meals of an entire 7-day period. I eat egg whites, turkey/chicken breast, fish, bacon/ham...yes, BACON, whole grain bread (the bird seed looking stuff), whey protein and veggies, with maybe 1-2 pieces of fruit per week. I keep my calories lower while cutting, normal while maintaining and high while bulking. There is no way I personally could get the required calories (or high quality protein...NOT soy) from a vegan diet.

I would put my medical results against any vegans or vegetarians. See, that's my problem with these pro-Veg articles, they don't cite specifics of who they're comparing to. Sure, every Veg is going to be healthier than the AVERAGE obese American who doesn't exercise and eats out at least one meal per day, and then goes home to eat a may loaded white bread sandwich with a double serving of chips.

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I'm with you on the moralizing
Posted by: Jesse on Jun 3, 2008 4:38 AM   
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Here's some reasons not to go vegan.

1. You are allergic to wheat gluten
2. You are allergic to peanuts
3. You are allergic to strawberries and related foods.

A lot of vegans seem to dismiss this kind of stuff.

I'm all for environmentally friendlier diets. But there are still a lot of gaps in Ornish's work.

Humans are opportunistic omnivores. So we can eat both meat and plants. You can, as an adult, eat an entirely vegan diet if you make sure your variety of vegetables is wide and deep. And there is way too much meat in the western diet.

But for pregnant women, people with iron deficiencies, and the like it gets dicier.

More to the point, the moralizing gets me. I am not for needless cruelty to animals. but I also am willing to eat cute puppies (for Koreans, Indonesians, some Malays, and some Filipinos, and Cheyennes that's perfectly ok, if seen as poor people's food). I have no qualms about the lobster. If that makes me an awful person. so be it. There's a Chinese proverb: no good wife will cook something she hasn't seen killed herself. I'm all for that.

Really tho, the moralizing gets to me because there's a sense I get that vegans have no fun with food. Most of the recipes I see out there are nasty. I can cook vegan and sometimes do. Peanut soup recipes work well. But dammit, why do vegans seem to see food as penance? So many of the dishes are just plain bad.

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More pseudoscience from AlterNet's on-going "yea vegan" series
Posted by: Jasonix on Jun 3, 2008 5:01 AM   
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What's next AlterNet? How about a series on abiotic oil? Or a series on the merits of geocentric views of the solar system? We can all use a good dose of quantum-flap-doodle, too. Maybe get Deepak Chopra to write a series about how we can all be eternally healthy and young if we only think hard enough about it. Like your ongoing pro-vegan series, these new articles can follow the same guidelines - make a bunch of baloney statements that contradict established medical and scientific facts without attributing them or backing them up with reputable research (like the statement about how little protein humans need in this article, or about how we can get all the protein we need from plants), equivocate when someone points out that you're spreading dangerous lies (like when you applaud soy meat substitutes, then back-peddle and say we should use mostly lentils when someone points out that soy meat substitutes aren't really that healthy), and ignore real-world evidence that plainly contradicts your points (for example, when the folks on the TV show The Alaska Experiment become sick and weak when they fail to hunt and trap as much protein as the medical authorities say they need, even though they are in fact consuming at least as much protein as what you say we need).

I applaud AlterNet's determination to exceed the Moonbat quotient of other sites (this vegan stuff goes far beyond even the stuff you'll find on CounterPunch.org) and plunge its reputation for factual integrity to new nadirs. I don't know why AlterNet's editors feel the need to become as lunatic as WorldNetDaily (the far-right wing conspiracy theory site that runs articles on abiotic oil and the need to base foreign policy on Tim LaHaye's interpretation of Biblical prophecy), but I congratulate you on your success.

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Humans are omnivores
Posted by: eksommer on Jun 3, 2008 5:13 AM   
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While I agree in principle with the author, I would like to point out that humans have evolved as omnivores. We are healthier if we eat a diet of varied protein sources. In today's world the way animals are treated is deplorable. If you eat animals, at least know where they come from and how they were treated. And choose animal protein as adjunct to your diet rather than the main component. But beware soy products, especially the new over-processed soy and other health "foods," which are immensely more dangerous than animal fat.

Do some research. Read Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon. Go the the Weston Price Foundation Web site. And remember the Middle Road: everything in moderation.

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Dont fight nature
Posted by: mattcoa on Jun 3, 2008 5:25 AM   
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I noticed a qoute in the article that said vegetarian diets are good for all stages of the life cycle, including infancy. I beg to differ. There have been cases where children died because their parents kept them on a vegan diet. Another issue is that certain things necessary to maintain health are found in meat, particularly some of the B vitamins, and stuff like omega 3. And the nutrition that you get from supplements and "fortified" foods doesnt match the quality and efficacy of the real thing. People also need to look at this from an evolutionary standpoint, in that our body needs nutrition that is primarily found in meat, so as in every other aspect of our modern lives, by refusing meat you are fighting against nature. The of increased risk of diseases in meateaters could probably be explained by the fact that the majority of meat we consumed is pumped full of hormones and chemicals. If people could just REDUCE their meat intake, and be willing to pay higher prices, then maybe the factory farming of animals would stop and we would be given all natural meat. The bottom line is that meat is a good thing, but that doesn't mean you have to eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

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So, ketosis is unhealthy?
Posted by: DonnaSchlesinger on Jun 3, 2008 5:36 AM   
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Oh rly?

Is that person really a doctor?

Need I stop trying to melt my body fat then? Nobody wants to be in ketosis!

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I eat meat......
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Jun 3, 2008 5:36 AM   
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....not because of protein, but because I enjoy it.
Immensely. I also enjoy vegetables, fruits, breads, pastas, chocolate, pizza, cheese, milk.......Love milk, especially when it's chasing down a couple of cookies. Anything but "fast" food.....which I find to be horrible.
At 44, I'm thin and probably in better health than people in their 20's and 30's. I pretty much enjoy most food. It's a great part of life....eating.
Good food, good wine, good company. But....with moderation.

I also love animals.....would never hunt for the sake of "the kill". I certainly don't like to see animals suffer......I fully admit that as long as others do the dirty work I'll continue to eat that red stuff that comes neatly packaged and turn a blind eye to how it got there.

Call me a hypocrite.......but is it that much different than a person who chooses to be a vegan for ethical reasons also be pro choice?

I don't mean to stir the pot but.......it's just my two cents.

Allstar Cookie

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FOOD FIGHT
Posted by: wittler youth on Jun 3, 2008 6:08 AM   
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Every time a site posts about food..its allways an all out war of posters..funny thing is most all food is sub leathal now..soy/fish/poltery/vegs./fruit/trace amounts of every god forsakin poision is in every thing you breath and eat...now what? fly to mars to git a decent meal...would you drink the water any wild animal drinks?..i think not...git real folks..humans are the pests of the world..breed on my fellow food fighters..so your children can gobble up that last poison soy round up ready burger..if the bees called it quits allready..then were next..solent green for all..yum!

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You people could a lot from the East about LENTILS.
Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 3, 2008 6:17 AM   
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My wife, whose family is of Indian descent grew up eating a variety of lentils. Sadly, like China, India has become more meat consuming rather than lentil consuming despite the fact that lentils are digestible and don't contain all that disgusting fat. The more I ate lentils over meat, the better my health improved and my near baldling scalp fully recovered.

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Okay Okay I'll try vegetarianism for a week
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jun 3, 2008 6:43 AM   
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if all the vegetarians promise to try hunting and fishing for a week. No cheating either - clean your own fish and dress your own deer. Is shooting a deer in your neighbor's woods or in a nearby state game preserve ethically superior to eating some boca burgers shipped across the country? I would argue that it is. Is the moral high ground occupied by the vegan that eats tofu flown in from Japan or by omnivore that eats steak from his local farmer's market or eggs bought from a neighbor? Once again I would argue that the latter is doing right by his fellow human.

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I’m a vegan and I’ve never been healthier
Posted by: Lucy P on Jun 3, 2008 7:09 AM   
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Never in my life have I met anyone in this country—vegan or otherwise—who had a “protein deficiency.” But I can’t walk across the street without seeing people who are severely obese, and nearly everyone has friends or family members who are suffering from heart disease, diabetes, or cancer—all of which are fueled by eating meat. There are plenty of scientific studies that show why a vegan diet is best, but all the proof I need is in how healthy, light, and energetic I feel—and the fact that I still fit into my jeans from college!

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» RE: I’m a vegan and I’ve never been healthier Posted by: Outsidetheboxlookingin
What Baloney!!!
Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 3, 2008 7:29 AM   
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Any article that says obesity is one of our major health problems does not know what it is talking about! The obesity hype is almost exclusively coming from BigDiet/Pharma (BARFMA) to sell more pills. What is really sad is that these industries themselves cause most of the problems thru yo-yo dieting and risky weight loss practices.

I am SO sick of vegans and vegetarians exploiting my body for their morality. They have made a religion out of their lifestyle. That is their right. But don't evangelize!!! And I have NEVER met a single one of them I would trade packages with. Being plump keeps one youthful looking longer!

Dr Dean Ornish has always disgusted me. I remember once he had a program with some tearful wife whining about how afraid she was her husband would get a heart attack if he didn't go on some ridiculously stringent diet. It disgusted me the program used emotional blackmail instead of debating the facts. I that were my loved one I would tell her to grow up, realize no one is guaranteed tomorrow, and to deal with her own issues instead of projecting them unto my diet and body! Yuck!!!

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Vegans aren't restricted
Posted by: AlexiaW on Jun 3, 2008 7:56 AM   
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Jesse, vegans are as restricted as you think. I have a healthy and very varied diet, yet I am allergic to wheat, don't eat peanuts and rarely eat strawberries. There are so, so many options out there that people can tap into - it really is fun discovering all the food out there!

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Great article!
Posted by: ESloan222 on Jun 3, 2008 8:09 AM   
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I'm a vegan too and I also get this question a lot. Many people are simply looking for an excuse not to change their eating habits. There isn't one. As noted, people can get all the nutrients they need from vegan foods. And better still, no animals have to die for vegans to get their nutrients!

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