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Bush's Former Spokesman Scorches White House with Tell All Memoir

By John Nichols, TheNation.com. Posted May 28, 2008.


Bush's former press secretary reveals how the White House lied about Iraq to everyone -- and how the media let them get away with it.

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The Bush administration employed propaganda techniques, political spin and deception to promote and then justify a war with Iraq that was unwise and unnecessary. And a "too-deferential" national press corps allowed the president and his aides to get away with it. Who makes this devastating, if not entirely new, charge?

The man responsible for spinning the story of the Bush presidency: former White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

In a memoir that will be published next Monday, June 2, What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception, McClellan -- the veteran campaign and White House aide to George W. Bush -- portrays his former boss and those around him as permanent campaigners who frequently sacrificed the good of the country to achieve dubious political and policy goals.

McClellan is sharply critical of the Bush White House's handling of definitive domestic policy challenges -- particularly Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath.

But nowhere is the former press aide so devastating in his critique of his former boss as on the issue of how the United States was steered into the quagmire that is Iraq. Bush, he writes, is guilty of a "failure to be open and forthright on Iraq and (of) rushing to war with inadequate planning and preparation for its aftermath."

Accusing the president of engaging in "self-deception" when it came to the facts from the Middle East, McClellan explains that Bush "and his advisers confused the propaganda campaign with the high level of candor and honesty so fundamentally needed to build and then sustain public support during a time of war."

"[I]n this regard, (Bush) was terribly ill-served by his top advisers, especially those involved directly in national security," argues McClellan. And he is blistering in his description of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the president's former national security adviser, as "too accommodating" and too concerned about protecting her own reputation to challenge strategies that she had to know were ill-advised and dangerous.

And what of the free press that is supposed to serve as a watchdog on executive excess and deceit?

"If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq," the former spokesman writes. "The collapse of the administration's rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. In this case, the 'liberal media' didn't live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served."

McClellan -- Bush's traveling press secretary during the 2000 campaign and a former deputy press secretary to the president who served as White House spokesman from 2003 until 2006 -- is blunt and detailed in discussing administration efforts to destroy the reputation of a critic of the rush to war, former Ambassador Joe Wilson (and Wilson's wife, outed-CIA agent Valerie Plame).

"I had allowed myself to be deceived into unknowingly passing along a falsehood," he writes of his defenses of key players in the scandal, such as White House political czar Karl Rove, and fellow White House advisers Elliot Abrams and I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby. "It would ultimately prove fatal to my ability to serve the president effectively."

While Bush, too, may have been deceived, McClellan explains that "the top White House officials who knew the truth -- including Rove, Libby and possibly Vice President Cheney -- allowed me, even encouraged me, to repeat a lie."

That lie and the others related to the war are the bitter legacy McClellan wrestles with in an agonizing account of the White House in which he served. His account will serve as an essential document of the Bush presidency, and of the current campaign to replace it. Above all, however, McClellan's book is a cautionary tale that reminds us that powerful men and the governments they guide must never be allowed to wage wars of whim.

"History appears poised to confirm what most Americans today have decided: that the decision to invade Iraq was a serious strategic blunder," he writes. "No one, including me, can know with absolute certainty how the war will be viewed decades from now when we can more fully understand its impact. What I do know is that war should only be waged when necessary, and the Iraq war was not necessary."

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RE: just what we need
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 28, 2008 11:42 AM   
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It's insulting to watch these cowards take their turns at 'coming clean'. Where were they 5 years ago? My own personal favorite is Colin Powell. That was a shocker. Anna

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RE: just what we need
Posted by: CatDad on May 28, 2008 11:45 AM   
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Exactly...McClellan is just another rat jumping off the sinking ship that is the Bush Dynasty...He knows the political fortunes of this family are finished and he's trying to make money off of the situation with after-the-fact criticism.

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» RE: just what we need Posted by: helenwheels
RE: just what we need
Posted by: babs on May 28, 2008 11:49 AM   
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I agree. He repeated and "officialized" lies that led to mass murder, treason, and heinous, ongoing war crimes.

If W is the "decider", McLelland is the "facilitator".

Cowards (the Bush regime is chock full of them) only admit they're wrong after the damage is done.

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RE: meh
Posted by: Crazy H on May 28, 2008 12:33 PM   
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I wondered when he left whether he'd had a sudden attack of conscience (or, as was suggested: he was worried that he might get indicted over the Plame affair.) With this book, his career as an advisor / press secretary is over - no one will ever hire a stool pigeon.

There are still those who believe that Valerie Plame was a secretary - this is the first insider telling the great unwashed otherwise. They believed him while he was lying, do you think they might believe him when he tells the truth?

So what if he's not 'pure' - at this point, I'll take any whistle-blower as an ally. You're not going to find any insiders without blood on their hands.

Besides, the White House is screaming. That's always a good thing. "Don't believe anything until it's been officially denied."

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» RE: meh Posted by: pdxliberal
» RE: meh Posted by: peacefullaim
Just passing the buck
Posted by: ken_sailor on May 28, 2008 11:54 AM   
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Scott was there. He could have made a difference. Instead he blames others. Sadly human, and all the more reason the power of the president should be limited.

They are a bunch of crooks who should be in jail - instead they are off to the lecture circuit.

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» Jail - No, Gallows - YES! Posted by: truthteller
» RE: Right to fair trial. Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: ight to fair trial. Posted by: left_libertarian
you're free to go
Posted by: sirios on May 28, 2008 12:02 PM   
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Looks like the schedual for the the presidential pardons may have been moved up a few months.

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Good for him.
Posted by: Ghoulman on May 28, 2008 12:02 PM   
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It will be interesting if this book sells, he seems to effectively bring up the two major points about the Bush Administration, the Press at the time, and Congress. First that the invasion of Iraq is based on lies (WMDs and Al Queda in Iraq, both were what Bush went to Congress for war powers and both are known today to be falsehoods created by the Bush Admin), and second, The Valerie Plame case. McClellen points out he repeated lies about the involvement of the entire White House in his job. That's a series charge.

And *shrug*, everyone writes a book. So what?

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» RE: Good for him. Posted by: Sissy
» RE: Good for him. Posted by: zorrobird
Cue the rats. The USS Bush 43 Titanic is going down.
Posted by: HughScott on May 28, 2008 12:16 PM   
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Unless, of course, Insane McCain wins the White House in November.

If that happens, God help us all.

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cannibals
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on May 28, 2008 12:22 PM   
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hahahahahaha watch as they begin to eat each other. good times.

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» RE: cannibals Posted by: using
» RE: cannibals Posted by: using
Sociopaths and Pathological Serial Liars and Murderers..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 28, 2008 12:32 PM   
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If there ever was any doubt what Scott has done is show us that for this Administration any lie is better than the truth, and that they are collectively Sociopaths and Pathological Liars and our Justice dept. and our Attorney Generals were more than glad to go along with this form of government government by Mafia, or a government of the criminals, by the criminals and for the criminals..

So what's next Impeachment for which violation the Plame Gate exposure of a CIA operative or Impeachment and perhaps charges for Murder as Vincent Buglisoi recommends and advises of maybe charges of manslaughter which if upheld would still allow Impeachment or even just reckless endangerment not just of our Troops but even our entire nation..

Will Pelosi now reinstate the Constitution as written or still enforce the Nancy Pelosi abridged version lacking Impeachment for high crimes and or misdemeanors..

Thousands dead hundreds of thousands dead both American and Iraqi over 13,000 seriously wounded 40 thousand no longer of sound mind scared for life by combat and excessively long tours of duty..

Are we a nation of laws are we a Republic will Congress act..?

Or will they Congress allow these Sociopaths and Pathological liars to bring us to another War yet still that with Iran..?

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So Reagan's vision of the American system does not work?
Posted by: Sojourner on May 28, 2008 12:35 PM   
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The temptation is, as McClellan does, to blame the media. It may have been true that a hard-working media has helped in the past to weed out the phonies and the frauds.

When everyone is lying all the time, the lie becomes the standard. Advertising's business is to lie. Corporate leadership's job is to lie. The justification is that lies are what get people's attention.

So the primary issue then is that people are not and don't want to pay attention. That's what will kill democracy every time.

Bush has showed us that lies like the ones Reagan told us do not generate prosperity. There will always be a residue to be exploited if democracy has been working. So when Reagan exploits the accumulated benefits of prior good government, don't give his trickle-down credit.

Bush has proved Reagan's policies do not work. How many more times will we have to repeat that before we believe what we see?

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Has the wingnut media started spinning this one yet?
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on May 28, 2008 1:03 PM   
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where are the wingnut trolls? come out come out...

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The rats are jumping ship now all we have to worry about....
Posted by: The Big Raven on May 28, 2008 1:33 PM   
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Is the NEXT false flag operation before these murderers finish thier last term.
Even though this truth speaker is late in comming it MIGHT stop the bastards from committing another made-up war with peacefull Iran for warmonger israel.
The sickness will only get worst if we never admit to our joint complicity in being totally silent flag waving propaganda consuming patriots QUIT SUPPORTING THE so called MAINSTREAM NEWS for they quit being the watchdogs along long time ago.Dont leave the protesting for peace to the hippies and malcontents get off thy arse and really do something anything except just sitting and waiting for a miracle. Now is the time!
please forgive my spelling (forced schooling)
Thanks!

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Now he tells us
Posted by: Jeanne on May 28, 2008 1:43 PM   
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Just because he has a book out. McClellan was lying then, I could tell, why couldn't he? The time to speak up was immediately. It isn't a case of better late than never. Too late. Too little. It doesn't matter how accurate McClellan is now, it is irrelevant.

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» RE: I think it is significant Posted by: Ghoulman
» RE: Now he tells us Posted by: Sissy
McClellan, yet another nail in the Bush legacy coffin
Posted by: realveive on May 28, 2008 1:50 PM   
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Way to go, Scott. Now if only your example will loosen the lips of some other members of the Bush rat patrol. I'd like to see Bush strung up in Saddam fashion, after an enlightening Nuremburg style trial that also convicts Chenney, Rove, Rumsfeld, etal. Lord knows Bush's Bunch caused at least as much death and misery as Hussein.

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Remember
Posted by: k_pr on May 28, 2008 1:56 PM   
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McClellan was not a policy maker. He was simply a mouthpiece. His job was to repeat what he was told.

Now it is probably true that he is saving his ass. It does seem to be that he is simply repeating what all of us knew. Notice the lack of documentation and facts. But this would be about right for the press secretary. It was not his job to make decisions or to see the memos.

What he can attest to is the outright hubris that went into the policy making.

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» RE: emember Posted by: Sissy
Absolutely Obvious
Posted by: QQOblivion on May 28, 2008 2:55 PM   
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Well, McClellan sure took a risk stating the ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS truth, that the war was based on lies.
Way to go out on a limb, Scott.

Everyone with the slightest electrical activity in their brains already knows that the war was based on lies. Old news isn't news.
And the sad thing, if the Iraq war had been going better, then Scott wouldn't have spoken up. Him doing so now is safe. For now only the current members of the Bush administration and Senator McCain still believe that the war can be won.

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» RE: Absolutely Obvious Posted by: walldodger1969
At Least McClellan HAS A Gag Reflex
Posted by: gradioc on May 28, 2008 3:34 PM   
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McClellan carried a lot of rancid water for the Bushies, but it was obvious to me that the Plame affair disgusted and angered him. He had been told bald-faced lies by Rove, Cheney, and Libby and staked his own honor on them. That was stupid, of course, since Rove, Cheney, and Libby are devoid of honor and giggle at people who beleive in such quaint notions. McClellan left soon after the Libby indictment and his anger at that time was palpable

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LIARS, LIARS -- White House suits on fire!
Posted by: HughScott on May 28, 2008 4:01 PM   
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Predictably today, in an orchestrated, lock-step response to Scott McClellan's blockbuster expose of the Bush 43 White House, the Oval Office trotted out its usual gang of disingenuous GOP rightwingers to attack the former press secretary.

Perhaps the most dishonest Bush defender is his legal counsel, Dan Bartlett, who claimed on MSNBC that Dub-ya was "inquisitive," the opposite of what McClellan alleged -- i.e. a person who was NOT introspective.

Well, that's not what George W. has admitted.

As quoted by the Houston Chronicle when he was governor of Texas, Bush makes decisions based on ā€œgut instinct, not textbook solutions.ā€

So much for introspection.

I have a special interest in Dan Bartlett because of the bogus Bush biography I found on the Internet in 2004, which had been inadvertently posted on a State Department website.

Brazenly, the fabricated White House document claimed Bush had flown Texas ANG F102 interceptors almost SIX years when the actual time was 27 months, according to official USAF records.

Suspecting an aborted GOP scheme to deceive voters in 2000 by covering up Bush's REAL military record, I called the Boston Globe. Impressed, it reported my discovery the next morning (02/28/04) under the headline, ā€œBush Bio on Web Inflates Guard Service,ā€ and gave me credit as the source.

Reacting to the disclosure, the Bush administration refused to say who wrote the false ANG history and how it ended up on the Internet. Instead, Dan Bartlett, then the White House communications director, explained lamely that Bush's State Department bio did not "reflect the facts of his service" and would be "corrected."

Bartlett’s response is typical of the GOP's arrogant attitude toward democratic elections: Win any way Republicans can, including lying about their candidates, and if the they get caught, so what?

Hopefully, Scott MClellan's book will show the world what liars Herr Busch and his fascist stooges are.

--------------------------------------------

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com -- the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption (his bogus bio)..

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» Thanks, Ghoulman. Posted by: HughScott
Yawn, so what else is new?
Posted by: dayahka on May 28, 2008 4:15 PM   
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We've known all these things for years, but nothing has been done by Congress, Media, or people, so...?

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I Already Know How It Ends.............
Posted by: Turiye on May 28, 2008 5:17 PM   
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N/F/E

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Will This Book Move The True Believers?
Posted by: desidid on May 28, 2008 6:37 PM   
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I think not, there is a portion of our population that rarely questions and tends to believe whatever they are told. Unfortunately many of them have died, lost limbs, suffer from PTSD, and brain injuries. Many of them see the war as a revolving door, because they keep going back. I won't kick someone when they are down, but you gotta wonder will anything wake them up to the lies they have been told.

I watched the story of a scout/sniper on CNN the other night. I want to know what does a 25 year old man do with his life when all he was trained to do is kill without remorse? He spoke about his job so matter of factly that I fear I'll see his face again, when he has opened fire on a mall or something. God forgive us, for what we've done?

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A Cluster Bomb Falls on the Republicans
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 28, 2008 6:52 PM   
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I think this actually quite significant. A big, fat, mangy rat has deserted Bush's sinking ship of state and told all. Sure, he's probably motivated by the lure of big sales and the chance to dissociate himself from the many crimes of the past 7 years, but it matters because it destroys the last remaining shreds of credibility for Bush, his heir apparent and accomplice McCain, most of the Republican Party and the Greek Chorus of right wing pundits who have shamelessly peddled the same lies as McClellan.

It makes it much harder for McCain to misrepresent himself as wise and honest, and for the attack dogs to portray Obama as naive and mistaken. If Obama and the other Democrats use this intelligently, avoiding strident condemnation and Schadenfreude in favor of reasoned, even-handed and constructive examination of past policies and assertions, the effect on the neocons will be devastating.

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Maggots Coming Out to Feed on the Corpses, McCain trying to be an "anti-maggot"
Posted by: sofla100 on May 28, 2008 6:59 PM   
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Well, here they come. Why should we be surprised? We all know GWB is one for the history books of top ding-dongers as President. The fact that he got "elected"; well, that's just money, power and family connections all coming together. So what's next? Bush II is history and a failure. Now, McCain is going to use his so-called "maverick" routine to create distance between himself and GWB. Obama is right of course that McCain is nothing more then another GWB version. But, the public has to see this, not the "folk hero" version that McCain and his handlers are trying to portray. As for the maggots, of course, they are going to keep coming out for dinner. More books and speeches you can bet. But, McCain he is not so stupid. He is going to be "an anti-maggot," so he can build his facade of being a different man then GWB but at the same time, not being "one of them." One of the ding-dongers in the West Wing. We will see if this approach will work. Obama has to fight him hard or he will skate on this one.

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Swine Daddy Rove Carried the Show
Posted by: jreal on May 28, 2008 10:17 PM   
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It's late 2001 and Fox News is on the rise. The Twin Towers have fallen and Rupert is raking it in. Boom boom boom and the feeds keep moving. The nation is emotionally paralyzed and looking for hope... This is Karl Rove's violin. The formula of the music; Control = Power = Money = More Control = More Power = More Money...

The Fox News Mantra is the choir to Rove's lead. The Wall Street Journal is the puppeteer for the show, moving to Karl's every wretched note. 'Swine on Broadway.'

Oh you say the economy is in the crapper and the party that rove built (as we know this is a completely renewed version of the already swine infested party of old), is suffocating in its own feces.

First off, you don't trust swine, and you certainly don't trust a fox. The party has sold its soul and it's a fight for the last bone in a pit of crap. But the choir can't turn its back on its daddy. Daddy Karl made the show and he made em' rich.

TWIN TOWERS DOWN, AND BLACKWATER'S IN YOUR WIFE'S NEW NIGHT-GOWN.

The show was fantastic, well put and well done.

THREE THOUSAND DEAD, AND THE WHOLE DAMNED INDUSTRY IS IN YOUR BED.

Any minor mishaps had a smooth recovery. All the players in lockstep. Some of the audience were even hypnotized into its participation; their brains were turned to mush, and forever their pawn. "1984" was there, but was scared shitless hiding in the bathroom.

The show was beautiful. The minds of many were sapped, and culture was vanished for the replacement of lockstep corporate monolithes with their flags waving over the carcases of 3000.

The drunkennes would eventually dissipate, leaving many confused, and wondering how they got where they were. Many would be left to defend their horrible drunken actions in a dispicable manner rather than accept that their minds were stolen and replaced with a monolithic banner. They were turned to dogs as they bark in their defense. The collar marks around their necks are still visible for many others to see and know...
..."That one lost its soul at the show," you can hear people say as they look at the 'branded' with pity and sorrow.
And just listening to these soul-less individuals bark, it doesn't take long to figure out how short a leash that Karl and the rest of the "Swine on Broadway" gave these poor muttants.

So you say the show has a sad ending? Maybe so, but the players are now out on the town toasting to a well scripted play.


This post was originally posted under the story titled "If Congress Slaps Rove With Contempt..." dated 5/21, but since it was posted almost 5 days after the story was published, I decided it was a waste and feel this is also a sufficient forum.

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Republican dipshit
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on May 29, 2008 4:39 AM   
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Spare me dear friends, this little piece of shit bought into the Reagan crimes in his youth and peristed in the expansion through Dubya Dingleberry. Where the hell has he been since 1980? Did it suddenly occur to this born again nitwit that what he eagerly advanced and propagated consisted of murder on one hand [statutory] and crimes against humanity on the other hand [moral basis for international law]?
Dubya is a pathological liar and psychotic as well. Is it possible that anyone experiencing a lucid interval could possibly misread or misconstrue Dubya to the point of promotion only to regress and claim "gee...he really is a piece of shit!" Take every goddam Republican to the dumpster and eliminate all of them. Then round up the feckless Democrats and add them to the array. Disagree? What the hell are Pelongi, Reidung, Clintonbaum, Obamaless and McCainmyass doing about any of it? You got it...nada and more of the same is forthcoming. I echo the wisom of Rev. Wright..."goddam America!"

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Since Impeachment is permanently "off the table"
Posted by: Last Chance on May 29, 2008 5:34 AM   
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McClellan's book is an insult, a jibe at all of us who yearn for a working democracy, a sneer to remind us we now live in a mafia society of organized corporate crime and there's not a damn thing anyone is willing to do about it except to screech impotently on forums like this. The word is Bush intends to attack Iran in August, which could launch WW3 if the Russians honor their obligations in the Caspian Sea trade agreement. Yet Bush is not afraid. His own Rev. Hagee has assured him and all true Christians they will be resurrected after a nuclear Armageddon while the rest of the World goes straight to Hell. Thus, even though our President is criminally insane, most Americans sit hypnotized in front of their TV screens all sucking their collective thumb!

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Let's Review How Those Who Opposed The President's Policy Faired
Posted by: desidid on May 29, 2008 6:31 AM   
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The Fallen Legion

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Fall on your sword, Scott
Posted by: dantesdad on May 29, 2008 6:37 AM   
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Scott McClellan should turn himself over to the International Criminal Court for complicity in war crimes (the waging of aggressive war against the nation of Iraq).

Nothing less will exonerate him of his role in this debacle.

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I remember this.... about 1978 or so...
Posted by: gopisnewmafia on May 29, 2008 6:55 AM   
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I remember this... David Frost interviewing Richard Nixon and earlier one of conspirers like Halderman or Erlichman. Frost asked both point blank, "After hearing that, why didn't you pick up the phone and call the cops?" These guys have spent 40 years watching how the mafia works and made it legal or acceptable for themselves to operate in the same manner. Arrest warrants should be issued starting with McLellen. Not sure if Bush would pardon him now. But in 200 some-odd days, these guys are all private citezens so cops and cuffs should await them at the exit of the farewell party. If I have knowledge of a crime and don't report it, can't I be arrested for the crime or at least for part of it?

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Nothing New
Posted by: wgriff3245 on May 29, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Apparently Scott did not read the report by "The Project for the New American Century" that had been authored by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,Krystal, and the other "Neocons".

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grindermonkey
Posted by: grindermonkey on May 29, 2008 7:26 AM   
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"The press was too deferential to the White House," are we to think that a heel hound is "deferential?" Scott is soft pedaling this crime.

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Isa Question
Posted by: using on May 29, 2008 7:35 AM   
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I forgive your spelling......since I have never valued spelling much..however, do you really think that little vulnerable Israel could control the Big USA...or is that just the traditional way of diverting attention from the truth (as is usual in history of the world -- blame the Jews....). If the Jews really could control the world -- do you think they would have allowed Hitler to kill their own kind?
Or have such difficulty getting a small homeland back? Or keeping it safe?
And what do you mean we should get up and do something....how about you??? If we knew what to do? or how to gain the power to do it...or could get all the blamers to work as a community for humanity at problem solving.....we would. Got any ideas?

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When McClellan left his post I Knew "HE Knew"
Posted by: common intelligence on May 29, 2008 7:47 AM   
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Just Like when I saw the twin towers fall simultaniously, As an engineer and designer myself, I said "no friggin way", "something is not right here".

So too when McCleelan resigned, I said , " See He knows he can't stand being the punching bag for the Bush cover up any more and can't sleep at night."

As for your statement Scott:
"...the decision to invade Iraq was a serious strategic blunder,"
Blunder is not the word you were looking for but it was an IRRESPONCIPLE AND / OR INTENTIONALLY INVOKED PLAN that found a moment in time to intentionally set forth plans that where in the works for years by the "system".

And as far as "how the war will be viewed decades from now", well
Screw future history.
The only thing that is important is what Americans do now.

Without making the whole of The "installed" Bush Administration accountable. The history that will be told is the failure of the American people that gave there country up by allowing the piracy of
their country to happen out of complicentcy.

Americans threw their own democracy down the toilet because they did not have the collect will to admit they where in denial because of somekind of over inflated American Ego.
Nor did they have the congressional leadership of represention to secure them from "Domestic Enemies Within".

Thanks Scott, but you're a little late.

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Scott Tells it like it is and they call him a liar
Posted by: topview on May 29, 2008 8:02 AM   
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Dan Bartlett says he is lying and is confused HA!

Scott just got fed up with all the lies and manipulation in the White House and now they pounce on him. Poor Scott, he was gullible enough to believe Bush and his lies about change and then he thinks Bush was sucked into Washington Politics
and was deceived also. HA! Well now he is in the rain barrel. Their going to slaughter him for getting remorse and speaking his words of truth.

Congress has to get him to testify, while the iron is hot. There are probably lots of those goons that haven't got guts enough to speak out about the Partisan shit that has gone on.
Oh well they have to live with it and sink with the rest of the Criminals.
When are the people going to wake up and see what these lairs and thieves have done to this country in the name of the Republican party?
The Rats are trying to escape their destiny. Let them swim in their cesspool of lies and bulshit

Some body please flush the toilet and put them out of their misery.

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Scotty's haunted...
Posted by: carcinoid112 on May 29, 2008 8:08 AM   
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...haunted by the ghost of his maternal grandfather, who was an honest and honorable man (Keeton, former dean of the UTexas Law School.)

Too bad his Mama spent so much time teaching her sons to lie for The Party. Scotty should have stuck to being Mama's little party-boy in Austin. Although, it IS interesting to see what caliber of lies it takes to choke ol' Scott up. His 'personal level' lies really do pale by comparison.

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i agree
Posted by: open-minded on May 29, 2008 8:19 AM   
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scott mcclellan is telling a story we all know already! nothing new here. i want to call up bookstores and tell them to send back the books, i want to hold signs up in front of these mega corporate booksellers and tell would be customers NOT to waste their money on something they already know. what a fearful, sick little man this guy is. trying to make some bucks while blaming everyone else but himself! let's not reward another liar with more riches.... boycott the book!

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Isa Point
Posted by: using on May 29, 2008 8:39 AM   
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It would seem reasonable that truth would shatter misconceptions. However, the last I heard: a nice well meaning do gooder, a true salt of the earth person said (before Hillary) "I worry about Obama being killed......and in the same breathe ....McCain has paid his dues to our country." THis is the type of thinking
that blamed Kerry for insulting us by "dummy it up on national television" and not a word about Bush actually being a dummy.
And many people who believe that they have single handedly pulled themselves up by their boot straps..incomparison to others of their class -- guess whose side they often vote on.
Do you think that ARchie Bunker thinking, taking place on all levels of our society (William Buckley Jr) is dead? IT is not always what the other guy says or does that makes a difference -- it is what a person hears tempered by what they believe. We need to learn how to address this piece of internal misinterpretation of the facts that produces people like us, who vote against their own best interests. In addition we need more discussion about the multifaceted possible outcomes of our actions and policies.
And most important: we need people who are advocating how to make change happen, and we need for them to be transparent enough to be trusted.

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An estimated 28%-33% Americans are brain-dead
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on May 29, 2008 9:38 AM   
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and McClellan's book won't change these people:

From WashingtonPost on Bush's approval rating:
"Bush's job approval rating consistently mired in the high 20s/low 30s. Take the last handful of national polls publicly released: In the ABC/Washington Post survey 28 percent approved of the job Bush was doing; in the Quinnipiac poll the job approval number was at 31 percent; an NPR survey put it at 33 percent. That window -- between 28 percent and 33 percent -- is where nearly every poll has pegged Bush's approval at over the past several years."

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It won't make any difference
Posted by: willymack on May 29, 2008 10:54 AM   
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Mc Clellan's book and statements won't affect the bushies one bit. Nothing else has to date, has it? This, too, will die down after Mc Clellan is either bought off, scared off, or bumped off.

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Liberal media
Posted by: BlueTigress on May 29, 2008 12:00 PM   
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There hasn't been a "liberal media" since Reagan. The MSM is all corporate owned and operated and anything that is bad for business will not get disseminated.

There are a few actual liberal outlets, but they are dismissed as fringe media and ignored.

Scott's blaming the media for not tripping him up while he was a liar for hire is bullshit.

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Uhh, excuse me???
Posted by: democracynowiniraq on May 29, 2008 3:25 PM   
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Since when does a president not want the media and public opinion to their side? When did that become an abstract concept? Especially during times of war???

Since when does a president want his subordinates to be sending the public mixed messages about anything at all??

Since when does a president NOT "sell" or use "propaganda" to forward his agenda?

Since when does a president NOT go before the American people to explain why war is necessary in the first place?

Since when does ANY president, in ANY country, at ANY time, want his council or administration to be disloyal to him??

After having listened to several tapes of Eisenhower, Johnson, and Nixon, I can tell you that they had TWO eyes on the electoral calendar. And I have no reason to believe that Kennedy, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, or Clinton were one iota different.

Perhaps Mr.McClellan thought he was applying to work at the neighborhood bakery. Any White House press secretary I've ever seen has been a "puppet" of the president who says what the president or his cabinet want him to say.

I don't believe the book will be full of lies, per se, but the entire context is distorted to embellish the worst possible light on Bush to sell a book. As far as this 24-hour a day campaign deal, well??? That's because we are now in the era of 24-hour news networks and 24 hour blogospheres.. You MUST stay up on your toes AND be in campaign mode 24/7..

What I find interesting is that mode actually began during the Clinton years and has only continued during the Bush years. Except when Clinton's team did it, they were hailed for their cleverness and sharpness and quick response. But when Bush does it, it's "propaganda."

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» Excuse the F... out of me. Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» RE: xcuse the F... out of me. Posted by: democracynowiniraq
An OpEdNews.com article that's been headlining there all day...
Posted by: nihilozero on May 29, 2008 3:40 PM   
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Scott McClellan and the Impetus for Impeachment
Please give it some serious consideration. Stay hopeful and focused. Feel free to repost it here, there, and everywhere. The comments are rather interesting too (if I do say so myself). It's also been the #1 Google News search result for "Bush Impeachment." We CAN make this happen! Check it out!
Cheers!
Scott McClellan and the Impetus for Impeachment

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"Possibly"?!!
Posted by: Sparks56 on May 29, 2008 4:54 PM   
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"the top White House officials who knew the truth -- including Rove, Libby and possibly Vice President Cheney -- allowed me, even encouraged me, to repeat a lie."
Possibly Dick Cheney?!! Possibly?!
The chief architect, the biggest promoter and intelligence twister, who was on the payroll of the biggest Iraq War contractor, who had a map of Iraq spread over his desk during the closed, secret energy policy meetings, before 9/11, "possibly" allowed Scott McClellan to tell a fib or two?
Such naivite does not rise to the top in Washington, Mr. McClellan. You're a bald-faced liar resorting to the Nuremburg Defense, "I vas oonly ffollowing oordahs", to try to salvage what's left of your reputation as a decent human being. You're as guilty as the rest of those bastards.
Watch the race to publish by all the rats proclaiming their innocense.

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Most disgusting thing from the book...
Posted by: Quannah on May 29, 2008 5:33 PM   
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that I have heard of so far wasn't mentioned in this article. (Perhaps it warrants its own article? **hint, hint**)

Apparently, McClellan says in the book that Bush wanted to go to war because he believed that the only truly memorable Presidents were war-time Presidents and he wanted to be remembered as the President who democratized the Middle East.

Think about that.

The War On Iraq just to stroke this megalomaniacal pig's EGO! All so he would look good in the history books! So he would be memorable!

Words escape me on this one. Unfuckingbelievable.

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At least some hope
Posted by: DragonOak on May 29, 2008 9:10 PM   
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Books like these at least awaken a few blind followers that have been tricked into believing propaganda of this administration. At least it is something even though it may be too little to late.

DragonOak

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» RE: At least some hope Posted by: nihilozero
Remember this, people:
Posted by: hurricane hugo on May 30, 2008 12:00 AM   
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A few weeks ago (I believe it was the day before the Indiana and N. Carolina primaries) Obama was asked whether or not his Justice Dept. would prosecute Bushies who were found to have broken the law after the Bush administration leaves office. He said "yes".

jdfu!

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» RE: emember this, people: Posted by: Quannah
shrill rightwing reaction shows book worthwhile
Posted by: whealeydj on May 30, 2008 7:39 PM   
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as it reveals now Bush PROPAGANDA was sucessful Iin getting compliant mainstream media to reapeat their LIES. we leftiest never bought Bush bs but most Americans did. we can point to this book and say are you going to be fooled again?

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SETTING UP A DEFENSE???
Posted by: ScoobyDoobyDoo on May 30, 2008 9:46 PM   
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Words like "self-deception" and other comments seem geared to give the criminals, including author, a get out of jail card free. As if they just bought the Ahmed Chalabi BS about WMDs, etc. The White House criminals and neo-con accomplices enabled the lying sac of sh... Ahmed Chalabi and funded his INC . Nowhere do I read that there was full criminal intent to mislead the nation into war, and/or that they knew the full extent of their lies or what they were doing. It is all painted in shades of gray. Shame on this excuse for an expose that fabricates holes the size of Mack trucks for the megalomaniacal, murdering, genocidal war criminals to escape! They all need to be brought to justice, including McClellan--he was an instrumental part of the deception.

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Just more Propaganda
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 31, 2008 4:55 AM   
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This 'Tell all' Tells nothing. It is an attempt to lessen the charges this admin wil face.Scotty is still a loyalist- he's trying to save theri asses from the real charges, cloaking their crimes with 'misguided' and "idealism' - More BS!
Honestly I almost fell for it too- but then realized If charged with the idea the admin did this because the had a more 'perfect' ideal of th eM.E. that would negate being charged with Imperialist intentions. Come On - this admin Ran into the M.E. to seize Oil rich lands- looking at Oil & gas prices it's obvious this was NOT done on OUR behalf. This was Purely a Profiteering venture- a conspiracy by the Oil Incs an dtheir Sponsoring Foreign Regimes (Saudi's & UAE). They intnetional robbed our Treasures/ resources and spilled our blood (and far more others) to control this natural resource. PERIOD! This is not a case of Ignorance or even Arrogance- it is PURE MALICE AND GREED!
Scotty is attempting to save this admin (and their Fiends in Industry & 'royal ' regimes') From Prosecution for Treason, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity!
Sorry Boys and Girls- this Charade of a crumb will not suffice!
Everyone must consider why the Admin got a Copy in April , made no demands for changes, have not done anything more then throw soft balls at the book and at Scotty- he's still Working For them!!!!This Book is Propaganda, and it Reeks of a Diversional tactic!

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Heck of a Job Scotti!!!
Posted by: AlteredStates on May 31, 2008 2:12 PM   
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And the Whitehouse response...canned as usual. Of course. What else do you expect from the likes of Bush, Cheney, et al? More lies from professional liers. Ya know, it's a funning thing about liers. They need more lies to cover-up the original lie. That's just the way it is.

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For what it's worth...
Posted by: Quannah on May 31, 2008 2:22 PM   
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I think McClellan was one of the "True Believers" that followed Bush from Texas. I think he isn't the brightest bulb on the tree, and for that reason, they put him into the position of Press Secretary. They thought they could trust him to feed the media a steady stream of their propaganda, which he certainly did. But, because he was a "loyal Bushie," they never thought he would turn on them. I think they are shocked that he did.

The other interesting thing I've noticed about all this is quite telling. Even though advanced copies of McClellan's book were okayed by the White House lawyers (and all the "principals" read it, too, I'm sure!), they didn't ask for any changes. They have tried to use character assassination to downplay the truthfulness of the book, but they haven't bothered to refute any factual information in the book. Not one word of it. Nothing. Nada. Instead, they say he's "disgruntled," that he did it for the money, that he's been put up to it by the left-wing bloggers(!), etc. So, I would ask the White House... since you got advanced copies, read the book, why have your responses all been that you were "puzzled," "confused," "this isn't the Scotty we all knew and worked with." Very interesting. Methinks they are sweating this one a little. Conyers already stated he'd like McClellan to come before the House Judiciary Committee and testify. This will be interesting to follow over the next few weeks/months.

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» RE: For what it's worth... Posted by: democracynowiniraq
» RE: For what it's worth... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: For what it's worth... Posted by: democracynowiniraq
Just more fuel for the fire...
Posted by: Bearzerker on May 31, 2008 8:08 PM   
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...for crimes against humanity!

I would like to see criminal conspiracy and complicity to commit treason charges leveled at the top executives of the MSM being considered!

Because they took pages directly from Joseph Goebbels play book!
and made it look way to easy!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
'Joseph Goebbels' Quotes;

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The
lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."

"During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information."

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


We must ensure a curtailment of News reporting emanating from governmental agencies... which can be easily done by revoking broadcasters rights to broadcast News information period, which would be/is a privilege that is a separate entity from their regular broadcast license!
A broadcast license should be a yearly and extremely high fee for companies that do not have regulated news coverage, with those that do have licensed news reporting being exempt from the yearly somberquete.

news licensing guidelines must be enforced to ensure non-governmental interference in the future!

Patrick Fitzgerald where are you!

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mrso
Posted by: mrso on Jun 3, 2008 11:43 AM   
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power to the people---don't buy scott mc clellans' book. read it for free from your public library.

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