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Iraq War May Have Increased Energy Costs Worldwide by a Staggering $6 Trillion

By Geoffrey Lean, The Independent. Posted May 27, 2008.


The Iraq War means oil costs three times more than it should. How are our lives going to change with oil heading toward $200 a barrel?

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The invasion of Iraq by Britain and the US has trebled the price of oil, according to a leading expert, costing the world a staggering $6 trillion in higher energy prices alone.

The oil economist Dr Mamdouh Salameh, who advises both the World Bank and the UN Industrial Development Organisation (Unido), told The Independent on Sunday that the price of oil would now be no more than $40 a barrel, less than a third of the record $135 a barrel reached last week, if it had not been for the Iraq war.

He spoke after oil prices set a new record on 13 consecutive days over the past two weeks. They have now multiplied sixfold since 2002, compared with the fourfold increase of the 1973 and 1974 "oil shock" that ended the world's long postwar boom.

Goldman Sachs predicted last week that the price could rise to an unprecedented $200 a barrel over the next year, and the world is coming to terms with the idea that the age of cheap oil has ended, with far-reaching repercussions on their activities.

Dr Salameh, director of the UK-based Oil Market Consultancy Service, and an authority on Iraq's oil, said it is the only one of the world's biggest producing countries with enough reserves substantially to increase its flow.

Production in eight of the others -- the US, Canada, Iran, Indonesia, Russia, Britain, Norway and Mexico -- has peaked, he says, while China and Saudia Arabia, the remaining two, are nearing the point at of decline. Before the war, Saddam Hussein's regime pumped some 3.5 million barrels of oil a day, but this had now fallen to just two million barrels.

Dr Salameh told the all-party parliamentary group on peak oil last month that Iraq had offered the United States a deal, three years before the war, that would have opened up 10 new giant oil fields on "generous" terms in return for the lifting of sanctions. "This would certainly have prevented the steep rise of the oil price," he said. "But the US had a different idea. It planned to occupy Iraq and annex its oil."

Chris Skrebowski, the editor of Petroleum Review, said: "There are many ifs in the world oil market. This is a very big one, but there are others. If there had been a civil war in Iraq, even less oil would have been produced."

David Strahan: What happens next? The expert's view

At just under 86 million barrels per day, global oil production has, essentially, stagnated since 2005, despite soaring demand, suggesting that production has already reached its geological limits, or "peak oil".

Recession in the West may not provide relief on prices. There is increasing demand from countries such as China, Russia and the Opec countries, whose consumers are cushioned against rising prices by heavy subsidies. The future could unfold in a number of ways:

Oil price collapses

Fuel subsidies could suddenly be scrapped, dousing demand. Cost pressures have forced Malaysia, Indonesia and Taiwan to cut them, but China is hardly strapped for cash. Opec producers are under no pressure to abolish subsidies; as the oil price rises they get richer. Prospect: very unlikely.

Peace could break out in Iraq, the long-disputed oil law agreed, and international oil companies start work on the world's largest collection of untapped oil fields. Prospect: vanishingly unlikely.

Oil price stabilises or moderates

Deep recession in the West might cut oil consumption enough to offset growth in the developing world and Opec, or even engulf them too, softening prices. Prospect: unlikely in the short term.

Oil price soars

Russian oil output has gone into decline; Saudi Arabia has shelved plans to expand production capacity, and advisers to the Nigerian government predict its output will fall by 30 per cent by 2015. More news like this, expect oil at $200 a barrel. Prospect: likely.

Big oil producers will increasingly divert exports for home consumption. Opec, Russian and Mexican exports expected to fall, pushing oil to $200 by 2012. Prospect: highly likely.

The writer is author of 'The Last Oil Shock', John Murray, lastoilshock.com

Peak oil

After 150 years of growth, the oil age is beginning to come to an end. "Peak oil" is the common term for when production stops increasing and starts to decline. At that point what have been ever-expanding and cheap supplies of the resource on which all modern economies depend become scarcer and more expensive, with potentially devastating consequences.

Pessimists believe that production has passed its peak. Optimists say it may be 20 years or so away -- which would give us some time to prepare -- but are now muted. Last week the hitherto optimistic International Energy Agency admitted that it may have overestimated future capacity. Chris Skrebowski, editor of 'Petroleum Review' and once an optimist himself, believes that the world is now in "the foothills of peak oil". Prices may ease a bit over the next few years, but then the real crunch will come. The price then? "Pick a number!"

Travel

Oil provides 95 per cent of the energy used in transport, so this will be hit hard and soon. People are likely to go on using their cars, but airlines are expected to be the first to suffer. On Thursday, British Airways' chief executive Willie Walsh declared that the era of cheap flights was over, suggesting that those environmentalists who have made them their main target for combating climate change may have been wasting their breath.


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So Which is It ? The Iraq War or Peak Oil ?
Posted by: mmckinl on May 27, 2008 12:18 AM   
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How about granting China most favored nations status in the WTO? Their economy then took off creating all this extra demand.

Actually we were coming to Peak Oil anyway. The reserves in Iraq may help ease the decline of the other producing countries. Oil supply declining slowly rather than overnight will make all the difference for billions of people, many of them right here in the United States, if that is we start taking Peak Oil seriously.

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$200 a barrel:
Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL on May 27, 2008 12:22 AM   
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is the exact figure Cheney said it would cost per barrel if we didn't invade Iran.

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» RE: $200 a barrel: Posted by: richholland
» RE: $200 a barrel: Posted by: tatamchwh
The age of abundance and peace is at a close
Posted by: blogbooks on May 27, 2008 1:32 AM   
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We're headed back to a more normal human experience: scarcity and ruthless warfare.

Time to shelve our socialistic ideals and get ourselves firmly rooted in the harsh reality of competition and starvation for those that are out-competed.

Break out your history books and tremble in fear. We're headed into an age of world shaking historic events like global warfare and mass population die offs.

Get while the gettin' is good or be prepared to sleep in your car until they shut off your credit cards and you can't afford fuel for it and it becomes a coffin on wheels.

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» If it were that easy... Posted by: blogbooks
» Artifical Price Hikes.... Posted by: CatDad
$4.00 a gallon...
Posted by: editnetwork on May 27, 2008 3:57 AM   
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...is the exact price our President said he hadn't been informed was around the corner.

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Superpowers needs WAR
Posted by: richholland on May 27, 2008 4:41 AM   
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In the coppolla movie; Apocalypse now.one of the characters explains that the USA need war in order to survive his economical system.
.So the lesson from the Vietnam war == 0
This movie got in 1979 8 oscars.

In fact the capitalistic system wants more profit ,
selling more products etc.

As soon as the war in IRAQ stops another target will be found.
For the present problems;
-public transportation network
-electricity by nuclair(see Astrominer)
God gives the USA a president willing and able to CHANGE things.

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» RE: Superpowers needs WAR Posted by: badkitty
I bought Dole canned peaches yesterday
Posted by: bitsfick on May 27, 2008 4:47 AM   
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that were grown in Spain, shipped to Thailand to be processed, and then shipped around the world. When I was young here in western New York all you could see were miles of fruit trees, they are all gone now. The once most powerful country in the world is now toast, we import all our manufactured goods, and now we are importing our food. As I said we're toast.

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Iraq War and the Major Oil companies
Posted by: US Citizen on May 27, 2008 5:26 AM   
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It seems possible that the Iraq War was fought in order for the major oil companies to raise the price of oil by giving these companies sole control of another major source of oil. Perhaps the Iraq War was fought against the best interests of those who have been fighting the war.

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I't's the Speculators the Enron Loophole and Texas The Bush's it's all Criminal..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 27, 2008 6:07 AM   
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There is so much misinformation and spin out there in regard to these outrageous criminal Oil prices that are bring America to it's knees..

Now you can say that the Iraq war is contributing to these criminal artificial Oil prices but the real reason for these insane obscene prices is SPECULATION and Criminal scum bag Speculators..

61% of these Oil prices are due to speculation dealing is dark secretive markets outside of any oversight this was all initiated by that scum bag Texan criminal Senator Phil Graham who put through the Enron loop hole which while Eron may have gone belly up these Enron traders were all hired and picked up by the Hedge fund companies and investment banking houses who are also the very one predicting $200.00 per Barrel Oil which is these criminals feathering their own beds..

We must end this criminal Speculation it is not Supply and demand causing these prices to rise..even OPEC says that and our refineries are only running at 85% capacity..

We must Nationalize the American Oil Industry and provide energy to our nation and economy at the lowest possible prices so as to promote commerce..!

We can cut costs by 30-35% or more and still have $50-60 billion for alternative energy sources and new technologies which will also create and economic boom..!

Just Remember Phil Graham Texan Scum Bag Enron loophole 2,000, Bush, Cheney Texan Exxon Mobil Irving Texas, Halliburton Texas..!

It's the speculators, it's Texas, It's the Bush's it's the same crooks from Enron...!

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Salameh's Bologna
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on May 27, 2008 6:31 AM   
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It's tough to say where oil would be if we hadnt invaded Iraq. Assuming that, instead of invading Iraq, we had just sat around the campfire singing Kumbaya for the last 5 years, then yes, I would agree oil would probably be at $40. But I'm fairly certain that the people who control this country would simply substitute one crisis for another. (Just imagine what new draconian legislation Katrina would have spurred if 9/11 hadnt happened. Can you say "tax on breathing"?)

"Pessimists believe that production has passed its peak. Optimists say it may be 20 years or so away"

I cant help but laugh at the way the peak oil debate is framed. I cant fault the author too much because he did say that peak oil was about production / growth rates rather than shoveling some nonsense about how half the world's oil has been consumed. But to imply that it is optimistic to think that oil production will peak in 20 years?

That's not optimism. That's ignorance. At the typical 1.6% growth rate, the world would need to somehow magically produce over 20 million more barrels a day of crude, just to keep the bubble from bursting. You're not an optimist if you think that's possible. You're just crazy. You cant be optimistic without being realistic.

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for a broader analysis read Lester Brown: Plan B 3.0 (online free)
Posted by: counterpoint on May 27, 2008 6:53 AM   
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Lester Brown founded World Watch Institute and now heads the Earth Policy Institute. His latest analyis, Plan B 3.0, in essence says that if we don't get a handle on the ongoing environmental crisis it will mean a breakdown of civilization. More and more failed states, creating hundreds of millions of refugees (eg when the glaciers feeding the four main rivers feeding much of continental Asia are gone: 150m displaced in China alone)
He also notes that oil is just one indicator. Modern industry needs a number of minerals and metals (silver, copper, kobalt, etc), many of which are running out assuming just a meager increase in demand of just 2%/yr within the next 15 to 25 years.
The book, its data set and graphs are available free at their website:
http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/PB3/index.htm
Plan B 3.0
As an aside, the book version is published by Norton and I'm amazed that Lester Brown and this giant publishing house were able to allow a book to be both available free and for sale.

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How much is $1 Trillion Dollars..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 27, 2008 6:57 AM   
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By the Way how much is $1 Trillion Dollars..!

If you stacked $1.000.00 dollar bills till you reached $1 Trillion it would be 63 Miles High..!

So $6 Trillion would be 378 Miles High of $1,000.00 dollar Bills..!

378 Miles High of stacked $1,000.00 Bills..!

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» RE: How much is $1 Trillion Dollars.. Posted by: the man with a dog
Bush Co.
Posted by: edraven on May 27, 2008 7:04 AM   
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We all thought the Iraq war was to take over the Iraqi oil. It was to raise the price of oil so that the oil barons would make more money and control the world.

It is like controlling the air.

Damn them.

Ed Graham

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Exxon's holds a shoot gun to the World's head and Dead Eye pulls the Trigger!
Posted by: Ottomatic on May 27, 2008 7:16 AM   
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Looking for one loony tune bass-turd to do some dirty work.
Fascists need only apply!
The Corpirate Ship is sinking with
All the Sheeple going down with the ship
As Dead Eye opens Davy Jone's Locker.
The Chimp is dances on
George Washington's grave.
It is all over now
Except for the crying.
Can you say $5.00 a gallon?

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The pro-peace movement would be winning if it would focus on the following
Posted by: maxpayne on May 27, 2008 7:39 AM   
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1. Going on the offensive to promote alternative sources of energy that are environmentally friendly and renewable (solar, wind, hemp, etc...). This would make #2 below automatic.

2. Conservation at large and stop laughing and poo-pooing people who are frugal. This pom-pom bullshitting showoff has got to STOP.

3. Ever wonder why public transportation in Europe and even India and Japan is strong and doing great while it has been left to decay here in America for nearly 3 decades? Hint: Big Oil and Auto had plenty to do with killing it and they still have the power with their puppet pols and SCOTUS to stifle improvements. Improve the infrastructure and people who are say 50 miles away from work won't be forced to only autos but will get to choose between say a train or auto. Can you say affordable light rail?

4. Lack of growth and innovation in scientific discoveries for 3 decades, not just the past 8 years. People believe doom-and-gloom and then go AMORAL on wasting scarce resources. Instead of writing off people who make interesting scientific discoveries just because they're not rich and/or famous, why not give them a chance? Einstein would have gotten nowhere in these last 3 decades.

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solangel
Posted by: solangel on May 27, 2008 7:59 AM   
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I remember the 2005 or 2006 State of the Union message during which dubya spoke several times of a "new energy policy". EACH TIME he said that phrase Darth Cheney, who was seated right behind him ,did his infamous smirking chuckle.

I wonder if $200/barrel was what he was laughing about!!!

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Another Bilderber Victory
Posted by: ronheri on May 27, 2008 8:48 AM   
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In their ultra secret meetings (another one next month in Virginia) the power-elite, the ones who control the money, gather from their mansions and plot how to bring about a One World Government. Destroying the American middle class and our economy has been Job One with this power-mad bunch. Looks like they can really celebrate this year...their evil scheme is coming to fruitation. The Constitution is all but gone, along with the declining dollar. Like Ron Paul has been saying for years...Get Rid of the Federal Reserve!

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» RE: Another Bilderber Victory Posted by: dmaciewski
Peak oil
Posted by: frank69 on May 27, 2008 8:48 AM   
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Peak oil means half the available oil has been pumped. The rest of it is extremely hard to get out of the ground. For example, the Gwadar oil reservoir in Saudi Arabia, is the largest in the world. They have been pumping Gwadar since the 50's. However, The Saudi's are now pumping 30% water from Gwadar. The water is to force the remaining oil up closer to the surface.

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» RE: Peak oil market manipulation Posted by: ray burchard
Stupid Ass Repuks. No War to win we've aready lost.
Posted by: common intelligence on May 27, 2008 9:26 AM   
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1st of all I don't believe in the whole Osama Bin Laden story.
For a multitude of reasons.

Evidently The BushCO doesn't either. Why are all these somehow "newly aquired Voice recordings showing up. He's dead or none existent.

Why is it Peak Oil is never refered to in any media?
Crossing the Rubicon, by Michael Rupert layed out an obvious inconveniant truth. Of couse the media wouldn't give him any credit or publicity.

The media wouldn't even give any concidered news Magazine to investigate this concept nor give any credit to the real conscious Americans that have know this for years.

The "system" continues to to project any information from only "them" and would have the world believe that only "they" understand and know the truth. Where as in the real world so many more of us are more well educated and knowledgable that the system would permit that the people are smarter than they would like us to believe.
Such as "only a career journalist" should be able to write and publish fact finding truths.

So, wih this point in mind, It is important to scream and yell at the top of our lungs that we know the whole Bush Regime, and all the Congress and CorpoRat controllers of our very life support systems are utter failures and we need to clean house of these vermin.

The citizens that voted for these bastards and work in the industries that purpetuate the lies deception, distractions and remain in denial should all be in prison too. As well as everyone that isn't taking it to the street and over the Internet and airways.

The objective game plan of oil pricing out of sight is CONTROL, of everything and everyone.
Whether in tended or not the truth of how the whole thing is coming down, proves that it is an expected out come of all the options that Could have happened. It's not brain science to realize "Think Tanks" are in gaged in making predictions and plans to project all possible out comes of any concern. Why would anyone belive that all that is happening has not been planned?

CHeap driving cars will not make a difference when what little industry there is in a America is brought to a complete halt.
Jobs will be non existant. We will all be at the mercy (ha!) of mass social food and basic provisions distribution. Yup, just like the rest of the world.

There is not one single aspect of life, as we've been acustom to, that is not directly contributable to oil.

Martial Law is so close around the corner most everyone has no idea.
IT IS BEING PLANNED to control disidence in the civil society.

Screw every Republican to death. It is there controlling beliefs and nieve stupidity that allowed this all to manifest. Adhereing to their uncompassionate self serving fears has jepordized the whole nation, disrupted the whole world. The ripple effect spreads far and wide.

McCain will only seal the descent into hell for our nation.
Who ever is the next "leader" is only a figure head for a sinking ship.
Their ablity (which there is none) to affectvely make beneficial corrections can not change the damage alrady done or consequences to be brought down on the US.

If you have any doubts this is not the inevitable truth to be, just watch the network news, It's not what they tell you, it's what they don't tell you that you should be concerned with. Than continue all your trivial pursuits buying trivial distractions and kitchen gadgets, amusements and aftermarket auto stick ons.

So if Islamic extremist where really to blame for what is going on they have already won, Thanks to Mr. Dumas GWB, or those that have all planned it long ago.

But Islam, Osama Bin Laden, Sadam Hussein all had nothing to do with the demise we are facing.

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super insulated houses are efficient but . . .
Posted by: billwald on May 27, 2008 9:33 AM   
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In the Pacific North West I never heard of mold problems in heated buildings until insulation standards in building codes became popular. G.B. has the same climate as we do.

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» RE:Nice point Posted by: wittler youth
rn
Posted by: mnatra on May 27, 2008 9:51 AM   
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If we think that he recent earthquake in China posed a major rescue effort... event horizon; think again. There won't be enough American aircraft carriers to rescue a fraction of those displaced by the effects of global warming!!!@! It is better that the demand for oil be reduced even if at high prices. The problem with high oil prices/ Bush' war, is that it results in making American consumers the most victimized people in the history of the world.
There seems to be no way we can as citizens take back our country from this power elite!!!

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Oil prices up because of America's invasion and occupation after 5+ years? Not on TV.
Posted by: Ghoulman on May 27, 2008 10:54 AM   
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... nor in the papers. I've been following the oil stories around the media (note; I'm no scholar, just a guy on an island!) and nowhere does the fact that the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan (note; the occupation of nations in the middle east where the oil comes from and *ahem* the price is set by OPEC) is it stated that the occupations are affecting the price of oil. Yea-huh.

That's like sitting under the World Trade Centres on Sept. 11th, 2001 and saying all that dust is just because of high winds. And don't worry, nothing could possibly fall on your head there.

I'm constantly amazed at the complicity of the "news". After all, this is news that affects everyone. I live in Canada and the only place I get to hear about the effects of the occupation is in England's only independent paper?

The number one problem people of conscious and morality have against the forces of corporatism that shape our greedy and murderous age is the corporate media. They are not "news". They are merely propaganda for the powerful, the rich, the elites.

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Iraq War Redux: Confessions of a former McCain supporter.
Posted by: HughScott on May 27, 2008 11:49 AM   
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Because of my background as a Vietnam veteran, ex-USAF pilot and lifelong registered Republican (since 1956), I was once an ardent fan of John McCain.

In 2005, to express my admiration for the feisty Arizona senator, I created and launched a nonprofit website promoting his unannounced bid for the White House.

The next year, on June 23, I attended a $100/plate fundraising dinner for the Ronald Reagan Library in Simi Valley, CA, not far from my home. Sen. McCain was the Library's scheduled keynote speaker, introduced by Nancy Reagan.

While John was funny -- he can tell a good joke -- his speech amounted to an unapologetic endorsement of George W. Bush's destructive occupation of Iraq and nothing more. Consequently I left the Library disappointed and uninspired. Even so, I continued to have faith in the senator.

Later that summer, in my quest to learn the truth about Iraq, I researched Bill Kristol's rightwing extremist organization, Project for a New American Century (PNAC), the primary and profit-motivated instigator of Gulf War 2.

Low and behold, I discovered that McCain was a PNAC member (called "signatory"), along with numerous officials in the Bush administration -- most notably John's Vietnam War draft-dodging buddies, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and Scooter Libby.

Again, however, because I believed John to be an honorable person with integrity, I gave him a pass.
No more. To expose McCain for the rightwing nut case he is, I'm going to investigate his background, starting with the Vietnam War and reports by fellow POWs that he collaborated with NVA interrogators to receive special treatment and avoid being tortured.

Stay tuned for more revelations about Insane McCain, AKA "Songbird".

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Hugh E. Scott, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.FreedomCentralUSA.com -- a nonprofit investigative website that exposes Project for a New American Century (PNAC),
For visitors who want to keep track of the treasonous weasels, FreedomCentralUSA presents a list of 225 PNAC members.

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Iraq War Redux (continued)
Posted by: HughScott on May 27, 2008 12:55 PM   
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In my previous Alternet comment on this thread, I said I would investigate John McCain's "heroic" Vietnam War record -- i.e. reports by fellow POWs that he collaborated with NVA interrogaters to gain special treatment and avoid torture.

This won't be the first time I've taken on such a task. In 2004, I wrote and self-published a nonfiction book titled, George Dub-ya Bush: THE PHONY FIGHTER PILOT. In one chapter, I described my investigation of his equally devious daddy, speciifclly Bush 41's infamous WWII Chichi Jima bombing mission.

Using Big George's own words, official Navy records, living eyewitness testimony and my aviation expertise as a military pilot, I showed that on September 2, 1944, Lt. j.g. Bush, an Avenger torpedo bomber aircraft commander, panicked and bailed out on his two-man flight crew after being hit by Japanese ground fire, causing tail gunner Ted White and radio operator John Delaney to die in the pilotless plane crash at sea.

Because panic can be forgiven in aviation if admitted, it’s what Big George did later that brings shame to himself and the fabled Bush dynasty. Instead of confessing his failure, he:

1. Embellished the ill-fated mission to win the Distinguished Flying Cross.
2. Failed to obtain similar medals of valor for Delaney and White.
3. Rode the exaggerated war story to the White House.
4. Obliterated the memory of his dead “comrades” by not mentioning their names in his many books and biographies.
5. Defamed Chester Mierzejewski, decorated WWII Navy veteran and honorable Avenger tail gunner who saw Bush bail out and told the truth about the Chichi Jima mission during the 1988 presidential campaign.

When PHONY FIGHTER PILOT went into print in September 2004, it made me the only aviator, journalist, whatever, to publish a detailed investigation of Bush 41's combat record since WWII.

I am also the first person to interview Chester Mierzejewski since 1988, when he blew the whistle on Big George's bogus war story before the November election.

As i said before, stay tuned.

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» Hugh, Thanks... Posted by: bobtr900
Sign this petition
Posted by: Dark Night on May 27, 2008 1:24 PM   
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For good infomation on solving our oil crisis and sign the petition.

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Are All the Costs in Dollars?
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on May 27, 2008 2:09 PM   
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Of course there is the tremendous cost in lives of U.S. Servicemen and women and the even more tremendous cost in the lives of Iraqi citizens. There is the cost in American prestige around the world and the cost of our self image as a country.

There is another cost that I've never seen mentioned or estimated and this is surprising. We are all aware of the diminishing supply of oil on this planet and the growing supply of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. What about the cost of the war in that realm?

How much oil has been burned and how many tons of carbon dioxide have been pumped into our atmosphere as a consequence of this war? Just think of all of the gallons of fuel burned by Humvees, armored or not and what about the tanks and bombers and even the inefficient home generators pushed into service because of the damaged electric system.

The mind reels at the waste.

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Everything going according to plan.
Posted by: yale on May 27, 2008 7:16 PM   
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Iraq has been bombed to the point of submission. Iran is next on the, 'to do list'. Iam baffled by the last 10 or 12% of Americans who still think this thing is about terrorism.

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These wars were NEVER about oil.
Posted by: Reader11722 on May 28, 2008 11:19 AM   
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Brainwashed masses, oil is the excuse and whoever is feeding you the 'oil line' is lying. These wars are for American soldiers to die for zionists. Only Israel benefits from these endless Middle East wars. Iraq is the beginning. As we commit war-crimes in Baghdad, the US gov't commits treason at home by opening mail, eliminating habeas corpus, using the judiciary to steal private lands, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon and Wikipedia, conducting warrantless wiretaps and engaging in illegal wars on behalf of AIPAC's 'money-men'. Soon, another US false-flag operation will occur (sinking of an Aircraft Carrier by Mossad) and the US will invade Iran.. Then we'll invade Syria, then Saudi Arabia, then Lebanon (again) then ....

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travelerwtoo
Posted by: travelertoo on May 28, 2008 8:00 PM   
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When the windfall profits tax was repealed oil was $10 a barrel. After that it started going up and will only go down for the next election. Bush has a ROBBER BARON presidency!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jimmy Carter
Posted by: bobtr900 on May 30, 2008 7:27 AM   
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Jimmy Carter we need you now, more than ever. Where are we going to find another one like him. I don't see any on the horizon.

This article talks about optimists thinking we have 20 yrs before we reach peak oil and thus some time to prepare for it. Well, 'rots of ruck'. I hope they are correct but what if they are wrong. Are we then looking at endless wars ostensibly for Bushian freedom and democracy but really only for oil and to keep the rich ever richer.

God help us all. Though I'm not sure we deserve it for allowing the Repub party(Reagan, Bush and Bush) to rule.

Right wing religion put Reagan in office. If Carter had a second term to keep his energy laws and initiatives in effect we might be 20-30yrs or more ahead of the curve. So religious ideology, has once again, trumped the facts. And the lizard brain mindset rules the America. Well, all I can say to the right wing republican religions you have brought about a hell on earth. And if it is as bad as most of us seem to think then the fires of death and destruction are going to consume many people.

Here is the USA live the perpetrators of this mess, the Repubs. So though we will be inconvenienced we will be largely spared the death and destruction because the wealthy, the Rethugs and the military power all live here. But what about the rest of the world especially the third world countries who have always suffered and look to suffer and die to an even greater extent.

So all I can say to Falwell, Hagee, Robertson and the Pope, my religion, you have made a bargain with evil and it now owns your souls. While the rest of us will pay the price for your blindness and driven and obsessive ideology. You will suffer not at all because of your great wealth.

The Theocons, Neocons and Fascists have formed a pact , a Faustian pact of evil.

Maybe I'm having a bad day but I don't see anything good coming from all of this cabal of horror and evil. Once again ideology has trumped the facts.

The Bush family (Daddy Bush and lil' Georgie) keeps talking about WWIII. And they can and will make it happen. Jeb Bush is just waiting his turn to do the evil deed. Meanwhile McCain, Lieberman and whoever will be the Veep will keep the pot of Republican religion(monetary and liturgical) boiling and ready to explode.

The Rapturists(dubya is one of them) say that the "End Times" began on April 28 or 29th, 2007. And they have the power to make it/them happen. Their cult of victimization began as a result of the Civil War. The Southern mindset that they have been victimized is in full bloom and controlling the Rethug party which also believes it has been victimized by liberals and progressives who make them pay taxes that they hate.

So stop paying your taxes, see if I care. When our infrastructure collapses and you can't do your business then tell me all about your woes. I'll pass them a crying towel but I won't join them. When the middle class, their customer base, has no money to spend and no roads to drive on to get to their shops and businesses then we'll see how much they hate paying taxes.

But I'm a thinkin' it will be too late. Sometimes things get so bad because they have waited so long that they just cannot be fixed. That is akin to painting oneself into a corner.

Okay now where are the religious right trolls to jump on my words.

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thanks, Max
Posted by: Floresta on Jun 2, 2008 8:24 PM   
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good points all. I am a frugal fool and a gardener. My new landlords are the biggest garbage producers ever; just seeing what goes into the containers, holy cats!...I gave them a bucket for their compostables,and I hope that that helps them get a grip on their waste stream.
just a thought,ahem,we need oil to create the hardware for the alternative energy that we surely will be needing and dang fast too.

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