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Hillary Revealed That Women Can Be Nasty, Deceptive Candidates Too

By Barbara Ehrenreich, Barbaraehrenreich.com. Posted May 17, 2008.


Hillary Clinton smashed the myth of innate female moral superiority in the worst possible way -- by demonstrating female moral inferiority.
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In last Friday's New York Times, Susan Faludi rejoiced over Hillary Clinton's destruction of the myth of female prissiness and innate moral superiority, hailing Clinton's "no-holds-barred pugnacity" and her media reputation as "nasty" and "ruthless." Future female presidential candidates will owe a lot to the race of 2008, Faludi wrote, "when Hillary Clinton broke through the glass floor and got down with the boys."

I share Faludi's glee -- up to a point. Surely no one will ever dare argue that women lack the temperament for political combat. But by running a racially-tinged campaign, lying about her foreign policy experience, and repeatedly seeming to favor McCain over her Democratic opponent, Clinton didn't just break through the "glass floor," she set a new low for floors in general, and would, if she could have got within arm's reach, have rubbed the broken glass into Obama's face.

A mere decade ago Francis Fukuyama fretted in Foreign Affairs that the world was too dangerous for the West to be entrusted to graying female leaders, whose aversion to violence was, as he established with numerous examples from chimpanzee society, "rooted in biology." The counter-example of Margaret Thatcher, perhaps the first of head of state to start a war for the sole purpose of pumping up her approval ratings, led him to concede that "biology is not destiny." But it was still a good reason to vote for a prehistoric-style club-wielding male.

Not to worry though, Francis. Far from being the stereotypical feminist-pacifist of your imagination, the woman to get closest to the Oval Office has promised to "obliterate" the toddlers of Tehran -- along, of course, with the bomb-builders and Hezbollah supporters. Earlier on, Clinton foreswore even talking to presumptive bad guys, although women are supposed to be the talk addicts of the species. Watch out -- was her distinctly unladylike message to Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong-Il, and the rest of them -- or I'll rip you a new one.

There's a reason why it's been so easy for men to overlook women's capacity for aggression. As every student of Women's Studies 101 knows, what's called aggression in men is usually trivialized as "bitchiness" in women: Men get angry; women suffer from bouts of inexplicable, hormonally-driven, hostility. So give Clinton credit for defying the belittling stereotype: She's been visibly angry for months, if not decades, and it can't all have been PMS.

But did we really need another lesson in the female capacity for ruthless aggression? Any illusions I had about the innate moral superiority of women ended four years ago with Abu Ghraib. Recall that three out of the five prison guards prosecuted for the torture and sexual humiliation of prisoners were women. The prison was directed by a woman, Gen. Janis Karpinski, and the top U.S. intelligence officer in Iraq, who also was responsible for reviewing the status of detainees before their release, was Major Gen. Barbara Fast. Not to mention that the U.S. official ultimately responsible for managing the occupation of Iraq at the time was Condoleezza Rice.

Whatever violent and evil things men can do, women can do too, and if the capacity for cruelty is a criterion for leadership, as Fukuyama suggested, then Lynndie England should consider following up her stint in the brig with a run for the Senate.

It's important -- even kind of exhilarating -- for women to embrace their inner bitch, but the point should be to expand our sense of human possibility, not to enshrine aggression as a virtue. Women can behave like the warrior queen Boadicea, credited with slaughtering 70,000, many of them civilians, or like Margaret Thatcher, who attempted to dismantle the British welfare state. Men, for their part, are free to take as their role models the pacifist leaders Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi. Biology conditions us in all kinds of ways we might not even be aware of yet. But virtue is always a choice.

Hillary Clinton smashed the myth of innate female moral superiority in the worst possible way -- by demonstrating female moral inferiority. We didn't really need her racial innuendos and free-floating bellicosity to establish that women aren't wimps. As a generation of young feminists realizes, the values once thought to be uniquely and genetically female -- such as compassion and an aversion to violence -- can be found in either sex, and sometimes it's a man who best upholds them.

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Barbara Ehrenreich is the author of thirteen books, including the New York Times bestseller Nickel and Dimed. A frequent contributor to the New York Times, Harpers, and the Progressive, she is a contributing writer to Time magazine. She lives in Florida.

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Posted by: wrensis on May 17, 2008 12:38 AM   
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Was this intended to be helpful or you just had a bad day and felt the need to pillory somebody you felt superior to. Senator Clinton has handled the campaigns misogyny with grace and courage and style. Having lived where she was my Senator I can personnally speak to her effective treatment and concerns for the people in New York. She was responsive, attentive and solved many a problem for familys who would have been much worse off for not having had her attention.

I hope you enjoyed venting your speen.Perhaps tommorw you will find a happy spot and write some thing that is actually useful

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Hmmm...
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on May 17, 2008 2:37 AM   
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While I do not care for Ms. Clinton, or the tactics displayed during this election period I do not care for the generalization that her behaviors reflect kind of "everywoman" depictation she was represented to be in this article. Such sweeping generalizations reflect precisely what has happened to this country through media presentations.

I resent being exemplified by the actions of Ms. Clinton even on her best days because she does not reflect the sensabilities I know to be the nature of many of the other women I have grown to respect and value. Her stance reflects a "Winner takes all" and "The end justifies the means" atypical to most of the women I know in "real" life, but are more indicative of the criminally ruthless politician we have sadly come to expect of our governmental system.

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» RE: Hmmm... Posted by: EMB
I think I speak for young masculinists everywhere when we say
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 17, 2008 2:48 AM   
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"We could have told you that - you really should have met our mothers on a bad day." (Our mothers were really wonderful on other days, tho)

Yes - no particular granfalloon has a monopoly on crude, idiotic, insulting, manipulative, deceptive, dishonest, disruptive, suicidal, irrational, impulsive, nonsensical, corrupt, and confused behavior.

Umm... they knew that a long time ago, you know. Don't you remember good ol' Willie Horton? Or every other dirty last-minute campaign mailer you've ever seen - people hate those so much that now the opposing party is starting to send out fake last-minute attack ads in an effort to turn voters off.

So, maybe it was all a planned performance, you know? Maybe Clinton decided she would pre-empt the Republicans and fire all the possible dirt at once, just to clean the slate. People are also starting to see how ridiculous the press has become - the Stephanopolous-Gibson debate will go down as "worst ever" - the most blatant mainstream media political hackery seen anywhere in recent memory. So, maybe it was a conspiracy to put Obama through his paces and make the media look like the jackasses that they are - ha - not too likely!

As far as the whole gender issue goes, yes it still exists, as do many other human rights issues, and if everyone supports everyone else's basic human rights issues, generally there are few problems, but when they don't do that, people are divided and easily controlled by external forces, yup.

Let's contrast and compare two women: Condi Rice and Barbara Boxer. No gender issue here... anyone wanna try and turn it into a race issue? On one side you've got a silver tounged Rumsfeld/Schulz-trained smooth talker with a vicious streak a mile long who was a Chevron board member and had an oil tanker named after her; on the other you have a woman who served the people of her district loyally and faithfully time and time again - and yes, Barbara Boxer would clean Condi Rice's clock.

At some point, can we just agree to lump all gender issues under the human rights banner? Take a look at the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Is something missing?

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Entertainment at it's best!
Posted by: carbon-based on May 17, 2008 2:56 AM   
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An aggressive women is called a bitch and an aggressive man is called a leader!!

Not a Hillary fan here by a long shot, but I've never seen anything that even hinted at racial attacks.. On the other hand, Obama, by way of Wright and Obama's wife has had a lot of explaining to do re racial issues.

The best damn reality TV show our there..The Obama/Hillary Wars.

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Hillary?
Posted by: kepstein7777 on May 17, 2008 3:44 AM   
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I believe the first example of female aggression was Mrs. Grog who, upon noticing that her husband had tracked wooly mammoth fur all over the cave floor (AGAIN!!!), clocked him on the head with an old dinosaur bone.

I don't know who started the myth that all women are sugar and spice, but anybody who has ever had a mom, or a wife, or a girlfriend, or who was taught by nuns, or observed high-school politics would never give Hillary credit for shattering it.

Another silly article to kick off another round in the battle of the sexes. Let's try to keep it clean, and have fun out there.

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Hillary's problem
Posted by: pkricker on May 17, 2008 3:54 AM   
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I believe the problem with Clinton is not that she's a woman, or that she is a bitch or that she is aggressive. The problem is not even that she is overly ambitious. The problem is that her ambition is the ONLY reason she wants to be President. I don't believe she brings anything else to the table. I also think that her willingness to go so quickly to negative campaign strategies is indicative of a serious weakness in her political abilities. We need someone who can find positive solutions, and adopt the best ideas of others, not someone who can beat their opponents down. Sooner or later, one way or another, that always comes back around.

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Low Floor?
Posted by: Sparks56 on May 17, 2008 4:04 AM   
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"Clinton didn't just break through the 'glass floor,' she set a new low for floors in general..."
I'm sorry, sister. Hillary is nowhere near the "low floor" standard set by the Bush/Rove/Cheney political machine.
It is not racism to point out the racism of others. I work in construction; the bluest of blue collars. There are many white working class Americans who still cannot vote for a black man, (and a few who say if elected Obama should be shot). Hillary is not a racist for pointing out that this electoral reality could cost the Democrats the election.
Hillary Clinton wants to establish universal health care and to re-grow the American middle class. She is also the coniving, manipulating, rhinocerus-skinned political mechanic who can get it done.

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Hillary did fail
Posted by: sheena2u on May 17, 2008 4:25 AM   
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I think the article went a wee bit too far in making sweeping criticisms of Hillary and women, but the truth is that Hillary did fail to live up to a cleanly run campaign, and this was a lost opportunity and a disappointment to many.

For example, it was a disappointment to me. I supported Hillary until I heard her skip the issues and go straight for personal, inaccurate, and shocking attacks against Obama.

I was so put off by her lack of substance or ethics that I started to listen more intently to Senator Obama's message, and I soon realized it was Hillary that was found wanting, and not Senator Obama.

It is sad that Hillary, to a very great extent, failed to live up to common decency, to campaign ethics, to party teamwork, and to the truth. So, to an extent, the article makes good points. Hillary went too far in trying to appear tough. To bluster against Iran was not helpful to world peace, and to lie repeatedly was not a good policy. To play the race card, in the way she has, has been painful to watch.

I always admired the Clinton's and admired Hillary, but her behavior in this campaign has sullied her reputation and her character. If she were not a woman, and a former first lady, I believe there would be zero tolerance for her insistence on hanging on in this race, and she would be called a spoiler, a bad loser, and a bad team player.

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Hitting just the right tone
Posted by: bucqui on May 17, 2008 4:45 AM   
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I am surprised so many women still think Hillary can do no wrong. I guess it's the same cognitive dissonance that allows people who are struggling economically to vote Republican. Bill and Hillary, sadly, turned out to be Republican lite, willing to do (almost) anything to win. Remember that Bill's big claim to fame was not health-care reform but legislation that gutted welfare.

I blog for The Detroit News, and there I noted that Hillary has always been too much under the sway of the men around her. She was a Goldwater Girl to keep Daddy happy. She flirted with radicalization briefly in college, but then followed Bill to Arkansas, where she became a corporate lawyer currying favor with those who gave her cattle-trading tips.

I am no great believer in difference feminism either, but if Bill could be our first black president, then Obama has the chance to become our first female president. He embodies the principles and the ignity that I wish our first woman candidate with a chance to win had embraced.

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Joanne
Posted by: jegnj on May 17, 2008 5:01 AM   
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Paleez! Yet another Hillary bashing article? Like Obama's campaign has returned to race time and time again with his fringe minister? Can the woman do nothing right?
I do have to day she is the only one of the 3 to mandate health insurance for all and if for no other reason I will vote for her in November as a write in. Obama does nothing for me.

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Well duh dillweeds!
Posted by: Bobsays on May 17, 2008 5:01 AM   
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Anyone who has worked with female bosses (and I have had many over the past twenty years) will know women are not possessed of special talents of empathy, intelligence or integrity. Here is a shocker: women are just men with a poonanny and breasts. They can be greedy, deceitful, stupid, and unreasonable just like men.

Only ever judge a person on their character and what they have done, not just what blah, blah they spout. That way you will not discriminate based on race, sex or ethnicity.

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Mzunguhowru
Posted by: muzunguhowru on May 17, 2008 5:38 AM   
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Oh Ca Ca! Hillary has done no more and unfortunately no less than what any candidate desperate to gain advantage would do to gain advantage. In doing so her character has been revealed..thats what supposed to happen... We now now how much she wants to win and that nothing else matters to her. Not the country, not the party, not anything. It has nothing whatsoever to do with her genitals or her circulating hormones. In other words she has achieved true political equality. Equally feared, equally disingenuous,equally self absorbed, equally Machiavellian. Congratulations feminists You have arrived..

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Even Stalin
Posted by: GPFrank on May 17, 2008 6:28 AM   
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couldn't stand Ana Pauker, Communist leader of Rumania, the worst female butcher of modern times

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Queen Boadicea
Posted by: EKSwitaj on May 17, 2008 6:30 AM   
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Women can behave like the warrior queen Boadicea, who led a relatively successful anticolonial revolt after her daughters were raped

There. Fixed it for you.

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I agree
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on May 17, 2008 6:35 AM   
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I'm very glad to see this sentiment expressed by Ms. Ehrenreich. I've noticed throughout this primary season some bizarre cognitive dissonance among Hillary supporters. On one hand there's the crowd that condemns George Bush as an arrogant cowboy for carrying out his foreign policy, but when Hillary Clinton embraces and promotes Bush's worst qualities, she's lauded as a strong woman. And then there's the other faction of supporters that insists that she's actually a dove that had to go along with the Bush agenda in order to establish her credentials as a viable leader. I find both of those mentalities baffling.

If humans excel at anything, it's convincing ourselves to believe what we know isn't true. Whether it's religion, relationships or politics, people very often willfully delude themselves into believing what makes them feel good to believe. This certainly appears to me to be what's happening with Hillary supporters.

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» RE: I agree - me too! Posted by: Moira61
Misses the Mark
Posted by: radical53 on May 17, 2008 7:19 AM   
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Ms. Ehrenreich is one of the factors that has kept me and, probably, others from embracing the DSA as an alternative left-wing party.

I think Hillary had 2 major problems in this campaign (other than Barack Obama). The first problem was that she chose to go with the same campaign team as her husband and, therefore, bought into sleaze.

The other problem, which I think is more germane to the overbroad Ehrenreich article, is Hillary's image of herself as Little Miss Perfect. Hillary believes she has prepared perfectly for the presidency. She observed her husband's presidency closely and occasionally became directly involved in it. She could have run in 2004, but she chose to put a re-election and a longer Senate record on her resume (like JFK) to blunt arguments about her experience. Now she shows extreme frustration at Obama's success. She believes she is a better candidate in every way and it drives her nuts that he can do something she can't: deliver inspiring oratory. She has mocked him repeatedly for his oratory and for the broad themes he outlines. Hillary hasn't recognized his other qualities of speaking from the heart and his willingness to advance non-establishment, controversial ideas on policies and government. It must seem to her that some unseen force, perhaps race or charisma, is blinding America to her superiority.

If she really believed she was the superior candidate, she should have recruited her own team instead of the Bill Clinton team and run on her own. James Carville, Maggi Williams, Lanny Davis, Didi Myers, Lisa Caputo, etc., only looked like political geniuses because Bill Clinton was a great candidate who connected with people with his warmth, charisma, and, as it turned out, his overwhelming need to be loved. I wonder if Hillary will ever recognize and take responsibility for her mistake.

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marie in Tx
Posted by: marie.vorrath on May 17, 2008 7:32 AM   
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Barbara Ehrenreich just proved that some women, herself, is deceptive and nasty. See, just saying I don't care for Hillary dosen't get her published.

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Bizarre Article.
Posted by: Verjenie on May 17, 2008 7:54 AM   
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To the author:
I have loved your writing. In the past. What world do you live in where women are considered morally superior? Is that the same as having someone on a pedestal. That uncomfortable spot, holding a lamp, 3 inches of room to move on either side. I think pedestals and gutters have a lot in common. Neither is where a full human being wants to be.
Women aren't dainty, aren't she-wolves, aren't ALL THE SAME. Also what should be explored is how many gentle snide attacks Huillary took at the start, to set the tone: She aint honest, ahe aint real. That gives the ok to see evrything she does as either She's a machine, She's lacking in compassion. I'm so sick of people going for simplistic explanations. Basically Hillary was slow on her comeback, had very little web savvy, took cheap shots on Ayres, had the right, left, center media against her (politically DUMB, sometimes, unable to pander, there) but otherwise has the fire in the belly, probabaly sees her self as doing what she can to change the world, and still has many black educated supporters even though she was used to anger the black vote, drive a wedge between her and her original support. There have been many female leader throughout history ( Angela Davis, Catherine the great (who was brilliant, as opposed to just liked Horses), Elizabeth 1, Indira Ghandi, Golda Meir, Emma Goldman, Soujourner Truth, Isis, etc etc etc, 100s, and no one I know has ever thought they were angels, or didn't have ALL THEIR AMNY SIDES & DIMENSIONS, as in they weren't cartoons, stereotypes, thin soup.

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Ms.
Posted by: AngryGranny on May 17, 2008 8:03 AM   
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Et tu, Barbara! As if FL doesn't have enough problems this election--you decide to bash Hillary along with all the vapid talking heads! We are finding out the legions of misogynists who are in high anxiety at the prospect of a WOMAN president, and shame on you all! This is a CONTEST folks, a highly competetitive one with the highest stakes with million$ being spent to prevail! If Hillary offends you for expending 100% of her energy and resources to beat Obama, then you need to thicken up your dainty skin! And when she states the obvious about race relations in the US and how they will play out in each state's primary, doing so DOES NOT make her a racist! We are in a dead heat, it's exciting and at least 50% of the Dems (I am one) know in their bones that she will hands down be the best choice to lead our country out of the Bush quagmire! We, and there are millions of us--you know, the base of the Democratic party--have options: Cynthia McKinney is the Green party candidate, Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, etc. My vote goes to Cynthia if Hillary doesn't get the nomination that she has earned! And to hell with party unity!

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