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Get Ready to Spend $6,000 a Year on Gas

By Mark Clayton, Christian Science Monitor. Posted May 14, 2008.


With prices at $120 a barrel, Americans are feeling the pain.
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Two years ago a leading economist published a study provocatively titled: "What would $120 oil mean for the global economy?" Answer: a global recession, if the price stayed there for a year.

Now the future has arrived, with the United States and other nations getting a double whammy from both the mortgage crisis and oil futures hovering at $120 per barrel. If oil prices stay stratospheric, the cost of fueling cars and planes could slash US economic growth up to 2.3 percent and global growth by 3.6 percent, says Robert Wescott, former chief economist of the president's council of economic advisers and author of the $120 oil report.

While many energy-security experts worry about a terrorist attack that suddenly crimps global oil supplies and hammers the US economy, Dr. Wescott and other experts say a terror attack is hardly the only, or even the worst, oil threat the nation now faces. "What we are seeing today is more of a slow-motion, rolling oil crisis rather than a sharp shock, yet ultimately we end up with the same sorts of impacts [as a terror attack]," says Wescott, now president of Keybridge Research, a Washington economic-consulting firm.

Unlike the 1970s, when an oil embargo left Americans waiting in long lines at gasoline stations and paying higher prices, today's oil crisis has been stealthy. Its economic impact has been masked by consumers tapping credit cards and home equity to cover the rising cost of energy and some consumer goods.

"We're having a replay of the 1970s without the Arab oil embargo part, so it's been hard for many people to see," says Amy Myers Jaffe, an energy scholar at the Baker Institute at Rice University in Houston.

Even with US airlines cutting flights and SUV sales now tanking, the effects of expensive oil on the American family could be stark, Wescott's report says.

In 2003, with oil approaching $40 per barrel, the average US family spent about $1,900 (4.8 percent of its income) on natural gas, heating oil, and gasoline. But today at the $120 per barrel level, a family will spend about $6,000 a year or about 15 percent of total annual income, Wescott's report predicts.

Compared with the oil crises of the 1970s, the US paradoxically is in a bit better, yet also worse, position. The good news is the US economy is less energy intensive -- using only about half the energy it did in the 1980s to produce a dollar of economic growth. That should make it more resilient.

But the bad news is that imported oil has risen to about 12 million barrels a day, about 60 percent of the 21 million barrels the US consumes daily. That financial drain at $120 per barrel is jamming the brakes on the US economy and inflating the trade deficit, economists agree. "The question now isn't whether we're going into recession, it's whether there will be a soft landing ... or we have a hard landing," Ms. Jaffe says.

Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight, Lexington, Mass., has done economic projections with oil at even higher prices. While oil at $120 a barrel "makes a mild recession a little deeper," the results of oil at $150 would be much worse with the nation "looking at a fairly serious recession."

But where there is awareness of the problem there is hope. Perhaps nobody knows better what the nation could do -- but mostly has not yet done -- than Amory Lovins. An American energy guru since the gas lines of the 1970s, he has focused like a laser beam on how the nation can save energy. "What we need to do to cut oil consumption is quite clear," says the cofounder of the Rocky Mountain Institute, an energy think tank in Snowmass, Colo. "But attention keeps getting focused on the wrong things -- like subsidies for the oil industry to find more oil. That's the wrong way to go."


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Mark Clayton is a staff writer for the Christian Science Monitor.

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In 1998, Clinton had a plan that would cut energy use in new homes by 50%
Posted by: Rune on May 14, 2008 1:32 AM   
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Of course the next president declared that "we need an energy policy that encourages demand," and look, it is mission accomplished for real this time! But if we had just done the little bit that the "new Democrat" was willing to place before his corporate benefactors, we would be looking at some serious energy savings by 2010. (To put this in perspective, we put use a similar amount of energy to fuel our homes as we do our passenger cars.) And it would be quite feasible to work out a financing and incentive plan that made retrofitting homes and other buildings affordable and financially attractive, even in this uncertain financial and energy market. That could realistically shave another 30% off of existing homes' energy use in ten years if we combined it with a modest P.R. and updated building trades training program.

Isn't it interesting that we are not hearing about any ideas of that sort, not even from Hillary, who supposedly was gathering so much insight and experience while at her husband's side when he was president? Don't you wonder why that is and who these presidential candidates are really intending to serve when one of them gets their chance to shape and execute national policies that need so much change? I get the sense the most obvious and necessary changes are not in the offing at all under these corporate approved candidates. How about you?

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» Because in 1998 as in 2008 Posted by: zyclop
is that all you care about?
Posted by: echoclerk on May 14, 2008 1:51 AM   
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given the catastrophes occuring around the world in the last week, still all you damn US Americans care about is MORE rambling about petrol prices... you drive too much, get over it. buy a bike. geez.

The front page has nothing whatsoever on China but 4-5 articles about 'gas' prices.

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» RE: is that all you care about? Posted by: Allstar Cookie
» Even the Buffalo News Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» The UK ISN'T the USA Posted by: Farasien
» RE: The UK ISN'T the USA Posted by: itchyvet
» RE: The UK ISN'T the USA Posted by: richholland
» RE: The UK ISN'T the USA Posted by: EinMD
» RE: The UK ISN'T the USA Posted by: HoboHomo
» Not as true as you think Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: This isn't Europe, asshole Posted by: Allstar Cookie
» RE: This isn't Europe, asshole Posted by: undertheradarmang
» RE: This isn't Europe, asshole Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» This isn't helping. Posted by: supercrisp
» RE: This isn't Europe, asshole Posted by: Benjaminsjw
» Get a map of Europe Posted by: zyclop
» RE: This isn't Europe, asshole Posted by: tgabriel
» RE: is that all you care about?--Wanker Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» That's completely inappropriate Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: is that all you care about? Posted by: yankabroad
Go Ahead, America--
Posted by: jvaljon1 on May 14, 2008 3:23 AM   
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Keep on--either staying home on Election Day, and/or voting for these NeoCON pigs.

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» RE: Go Ahead, America-- Posted by: adp3d
only the bottom line counts
Posted by: richholland on May 14, 2008 3:34 AM   
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as long as bussinessbanks like GoldmanSachs, as long as Profit and Money is number one forget about changes in the direction of a better life.

In western europe there is strong opposition towards oilcompanies, many people regard them as global terrorists.

Now there is an election , however after reading several newspapers there is no real difference between Hillary and McCain.

All the millions for the few rich should be used for the benefit of the USA.
But dream on and look how other countries do their things.

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» You forgot one person Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» RE: You forgot one person Posted by: richholland
» RE: You forgot one person Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
CHECK OUT "WATER POWER"
Posted by: walldodger1969 on May 14, 2008 4:34 AM   
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Our back yard tinkerers are hitting their stride.. 10% to 100% better gas mileage from.. water & 200 dollars worth of parts..

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» RE: CHECK OUT "WATER POWER" Posted by: itchyvet
» this is a scam Posted by: toddcory
You can save a hell of a lot by downsizing your car(s)
Posted by: leerhok on May 14, 2008 4:46 AM   
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How much auto do you really need? Europeans get around just fine in much smaller cars than the battleships you see around here.

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» btw... Posted by: ellie
» Yeah but ... Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» Penis envy? Posted by: supercrisp
» While in Brookline, MA Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» RE: While in Brookline, MA Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
Gas expensive?
Posted by: leerhok on May 14, 2008 5:08 AM   
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Just wait till one dollar is worth about one yen/peso. And till Chinese autos are no longer numbered in millions but in billions!

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» RE: Gas expensive? Posted by: willymack
$150 oil? Ha! Just wait...
Posted by: Farasien on May 14, 2008 5:36 AM   
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People are screaming now, but this isn't the end of the road. $150 oil isn't the end, either. WHEN we attack Iran (sometime before the Grand Traitor is slated to leave his throne), oil will shoot up to $200 or more a barrel. When that happens, look for our benevolent dictators to impose full-on Orwell martial law after the riots break out.

America is doomed. Learn and get self-sufficient NOW, or as much as you reasonably can. You'll be needing it in the next few months.

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» RE: $150 oil? Ha! Just wait... Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» RE: $150 oil? Ha! Just wait... Posted by: itchyvet
» No! Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: No! Posted by: richholland
» RE: $150 oil? Ha! Just wait... Posted by: edgeofnowhere
» RE: $150 oil? Ha! Just wait... Posted by: Doubting Thomas
The Report from 2 years ago
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on May 14, 2008 5:56 AM   
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Here is the report from 2 years ago.

It was posted on the Oil Drum a couple days ago. It doesnt quite apply to our situation now, because the current oil crisis wasnt caused by a sharp shock.

And by the way, none of those solutions listed will reduce demand anywhere near 9%. All hell would 'brake' loose if the speed limit was lowered. The increased congestion and loss of productivity would cancel any gains made in fuel economy. There is a reason 55mph limits had no effect on consumption the last time we tried it. Look at the 30 year chart of gasoline consumption. Only major recessions brought it down. 55mph didnt do jack didly.

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To the AlterNet Crowd
Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters on May 14, 2008 5:58 AM   
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This is what most to all you people wanted, high gas prices. You can blame all the SUV's you want or the oil companies that make .08 to .12 cents a gallon however not even looking at the nations who supply oil to the world (Russia, Venezuela, OPEC nations, Cuba) yes flipping Cuba is drilling for oil and Florida sits dormant. Who cares I keep saying, because this is what you people want. Whats next, we demonized the oil companies so we tax the hell out of them I think you are going to get less oil but what do I know, I'll just put down my history books about the Carter Administration... Get ready for Jimmy Carter Part Two with Obama. I can't get mad anymore at American stupidly. Left or Right gas still affect us if we wanted to go to a Toby Keith or Coldplay show. Not all of us lives in the Northeast so there is no subway to ride and you So Cail dwellers are very screwed. How about the working poor as food prices go up, wait the government will just hand out more money creating more dependents. FDR and Reagan are looking at each other as FDR goes "New Deal wins again."

Damm is makes me angry, well its off to ride the bus, yay!

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» That 2006 Democrat Congress gets a free pass Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» Brilliant! Posted by: EinMD
» RE: To the AlterNet Crowd Posted by: Bobby Decker
» RE: To the AlterNet Crowd Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
Gas prices, Oil, and Climate Change
Posted by: sillyConValley on May 14, 2008 6:12 AM   
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With oil headed toward the stratosphere we really need to be asking: Why? I remember relocating from Silicon Valley to the Coastal Carolinas in August 2004. Driving cross country it didn't cost much more than 17 bucks a stop to fill the Mustang gas tank. The neocons had already invaded Iraq by then but the side effects had not really begun to seriously reach the gas pump. Now, of course, they have. The more control the neocons have over oil production the higher the prices rise. And you thought they did it to provide CHEAP gas for your SUV? Come ON! Just wait till they launch the inevitable attack on Iran...

But we also need to look at the market psychology of Climate Change hysteria. The subtext to Climate Change is that since carbon is the culprit we need to limit all carbon oxidation, especially by limiting gasoline combustion. And of course that would indicate rising fuel prices to discourage joy riding and gas guzzling recreational vehicles. So it would not be unreasonable to expect that many on the Left and many within Green political circles would welcome rising gas prices -- at least to some extent.

But not long ago Michael Crichton came out and began questioning the whole Climate Change and Global Warming mentality and agenda and how it ultimately affects political agendas. And, that, we all know, must finally impact military, foreign and domestic policies with unavoidable impact on oil and gas prices. Check out "Michael Crichton on Global Warming" at sillyConValley.net for a very interesting take on this whole issue.

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» Hold It Right There Posted by: zyclop
Oil policy
Posted by: solrev on May 14, 2008 6:25 AM   
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It just amazes me how every genius in this country avoids the truth like it is a sexually transmitted disease. There are three costs associated with every product produced material, labor and overhead. In every industry if one of these costs go up profits go down. In the oil industry when material costs go up profits go up. The only way this can happen is if the 40% of our domestic oil production costs a lot less than imported oil, but the oil companies pretend that are domestic oil costs the same per barrow as imported oil. They essentially purchase our cheap oil from them selves at market prices. Why do you think they are constantly whining about increasing domestic oil production? The government should find out what the price per barrow of our oil really is, unfortunately they do not want to know. I would bet that the actual cost of our 40% domestic oil is less than 20 per barrow. The oil industry pretends that the search for new oil is an overhead cost that they must carry. Actual exploration costs are a lot less than they tell congress in order to hide the difference in cost per barrow of domestic and imported oil. In any case the policy is this, we will use no oil for any reason in twenty years. We have no need for exploration for new sources of oil. The oil industry is a walking dead man but as long as it is good business to keep the zombie moving nothing is going to change.

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» RE: Oil policy Posted by: edgeofnowhere
» RE: World war three Posted by: solrev
I love living in the city
Posted by: war_on_tara on May 14, 2008 6:43 AM   
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I even love the subway. The buses not quite so much, but they're mostly okay.

With TransitChek it's all free. (Rare bipartisan success of Bill Clinton & a few of Gingrich's urban Republicans of that era.)

And there's the Schaudenfreude of reading all the whiny complaints about gas nowadays.

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» No Way Posted by: frantaylor
Think I'll keep Both My horses- I'll need 'em
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 14, 2008 6:44 AM   
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I have a great Broodmare (not bred now -can't afford another mouth to feed or board charge) and her 2 yr old stud Colt. thought I may sell him this summer- save money, Bu tnow I am REALLY reconsidering. He's a well bred and Conformationally strong and sound horse and I've left him a Stud. so I may want to hold on to him- not jsut for my own transportaion use, but for the poosible up swing in Old fashion mobility. I hear camels have gone up in Price in the M.E.- The 'Royals' have been Screwing them since Oil shot from their Ground- not a big surprise their people aren't benefiting form living next to an Oil field- never have.Plus considering Food prices I may need a Horse to pull my Plow..Now all I need is some Land, unless my little town changes zoning Regs and I can move them into the backyard... My husband is Pres of the Zoning board- I'll have to perform Extra 'Special Favors' to get him to pass that new code! LOL

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» With all those wives Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: With all those wives Posted by: HoboHomo
Remember the 70's?
Posted by: Mamarianne on May 14, 2008 6:51 AM   
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It is not like we didn't see this coming. Remember the gas lines of the 70's? That is when governments should have done what governments ought to do. Instead of meddling with the auto industry, our governments, local and national, should have been building up mass transit systems. Targeted fuel taxes designed with concern for NOT bankrupting the truckers could have been used to discourage gas guzzlers and encouage the use of mass transit and railroads. Market forces rather than poorly conceived fleet average standards would have shaped the auto industry products. How will history look at us? Won't future generations ask: Didn't they see this coming?

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» so true Posted by: war_on_tara
» RE: emember the 70's? Posted by: Chloe2005
these are the good old days
Posted by: toddcory on May 14, 2008 7:12 AM   
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The simple fact that unlimited growth cannot happen on a finite planet seems to escape most people. We have nearly 7 billion consuming people on the planet now as resource depletion is starting to raise its head. If higher prices do not reduce consumption then next we will get shortages and rationing. This will get very ugly.

What to do? Reduce your consumption and become as sustainable as possible to mitigate the impacts from these issues. Our home is 109% of net-zero energy (including winter heating) with only 4.5 kW of solar PV and a SDHW system. We have a large garden and orchard. In a pinch I feel we could grow around 40% of our food. We drive a 50 MPG Prius.

I have seen this coming for about 25 years (remember Jimmy Carters warnings?) and have been working hard to prepare while everyone else played. Yes we are still impacted from the rising prices, but we are much more insulated than many. I encourage people to do what they can to accommodate this "great unwinding". The hardships we are seeing now will look like "the good old days" very shortly.

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» RE: these are the good old days Posted by: Southern Gal
It will get worse.........
Posted by: edgeofnowhere on May 14, 2008 7:31 AM   
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Please take the time to read THE LONG EMERGENCY by James Howard Kunstler, as I think it does an excellent job of bringing the past and future into perspective. Basically, cheap oil enabled us to live high and develop our car/suburban society, but now we will have to learn to live without cheap oil, and this will completely transform the Unites States. Get ready for drastic change in the near future -- it does not look like a fun trip for most.

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Old Honda, manual transmission
Posted by: PaulK on May 14, 2008 7:50 AM   
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I scored 40.5 mpg last fill-up. My record is 42 mpg. OK, I nurse it a lot.

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My (Republican leaning) brother argued about a gas tax
Posted by: UnEasyOne on May 14, 2008 7:49 AM   
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when gas was a buck a gallon. He said even a 50 cent tax would put him out of business. Now gas prices have quadrupled - and he is still in business. I said it was better to have the revenue going to our government rather than our enemies and we could use the money to build high speed rail, expand mass transit, and rebate to the poor. He repeated that it would put him out of business.

We need to make most of the airline industry obsolete, to design systems to get our fertilizer from composting, to mandate electric vehicles, to generate electricity from wind, water and other sustainable sources.

A sane government policy could not only solve these problems permanently, but position us to resume our leadership in the world.

We are now witnessing the decline and fall of America - and the beginning of the end of the world (as far as being livable for human beings is concerned). In 100 years or less, if we keep this up, humanity will be an extinct species! Outgassing from the permafrost and the oceans will kill us all. Not alarmism - simple fact - available to any who take the time to look. Soon, natural processes we have set in motion with our rapacious lifestyle will dwarf anything we have done previously.

Some may think that would be a good thing - but we're gonna take 90% of the species on the planet (if not all) with us when we go.

Look at Venus. There is your greenhouse effect in action.

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Explore The Real Reasons
Posted by: thehousedog on May 14, 2008 7:56 AM   
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There are hedge funds whose sole purpose it is to drive up the price of oil on the spot market because they can make a profit. These traders are not even buying the commodities - they just want to see the prices change.

The price of oil has risen dramatically in the past year. This is not because of a sudden increase in demand or a sudden decrease in supply. Yes, we are past peak oil and on the down side of the curve where the cost of extracting oil will become more expensive, though those costs have not increased so steeply recently. The net profits of the oil companies indicate that they can continue to effectively pass on costs vs. revenue to consumers.

Solution - there is none. There are only less effective alternatives than gasoline and and oil based economy. Watch as the price of food stuffs continues to increase as market forces and commodity brokers start to make profits with the flexibility of price in those markets as well.

It is sad that all of us fail to understand that as "stockholders" we own these companies through our 401K and other investments. Yet we refuse to stop sticking it to ourselves and our fellow citizens of the world all in the name of money.

Concerned about how much the price of gas is - take the bus and put your money where your mouth is with your investments.

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I guess I'm far from average here.
Posted by: dstauff on May 14, 2008 8:01 AM   
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I drive a Prius, and I live about 2min from where I work. I currently spend about $250 dollars a year on gasoline.

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Bobby Decker AKA THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE PURPLERAIN MAN
Posted by: Bobby Decker on May 14, 2008 8:12 AM   
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OK !.......LOOKS LIKE IM GONNA HAVE TO TAKE YOU PEOPLE ON THAT 1968 HOWARD JOHNSON ROAD
TRIP...AGAIN .....OK....START BY GETTING IN THE LEFT
HAND LANE ON I95.....THEN SET YOUR CRUSE CONTROL AT 75.......NOW COUNT ALL THE CRACKERS
WHO BLOW BY YOU IN SUBURBUNS & EXCURSIONS LIKE
YOUR AN OLD BLACK MAN NAMED NAMED RAHALO PICKING UP ALLUMINUM CANS ON A ON A THREE WHEEL BYCYCLE ....OK.....THEN COUNT ALL THE PEOPLE
YOU PASS DRIVING PREIUS AND VW TURBO DIESEL MODELS....NUFF SAID ! ?

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we all make choices
Posted by: jeffersonian on May 14, 2008 8:31 AM   
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in life. Where/whether to buy a house is a CHOICE, the house's location relative to my JOB is a factor in making that CHOICE. A big factor for me anyway. Having kids is a CHOICE. Locating near good schools is one factor that comes along WITH making that choice.

Americans make bad choices, moving one hour drive from work, and then they cry about it. Quit crying and make better CHOICES.

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» RE: we all make choices Posted by: EinMD
» RE: we all make choices Posted by: Bobby Decker
» RE: we all make choices Posted by: EinMD
» RE: If you had rented closer in Posted by: UnEasyOne
» RE: damn straight Posted by: notthatsimple
Obsolete thinking
Posted by: willymack on May 14, 2008 9:47 AM   
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Ever notice how individuals can be sensible and realistic about things while they're alone and have to use their heads to best effect, but turn into the exact opposite when in a crowd? Madison Avenue has used this dynamic for a long time, now, and is helping to sell the "biofuels" scam to a jittery public. The carefree days of unlimited combustion of cheap fuels is coming to a crashing halt. Sooner or later, the greedy sickos in the "energy" business will price themselves out of the market, as the average person will be unable to afford his previous, insanely wasteful lifestyle. Government controls will be instituted, and the usual lackwits will think they can go right on with their old ways and live happily ever after. Ain't gonna happen, folks. Thing is that burning irreplaceable fossil fuels will eventually exhaust the supply and pollute the air even more than it's polluted now; same goes for alcohol, however derived. We've simply got to get off the "fuel" merry-go-'round and do the research necessary to clean up the planet, reduce the world population to a level that our Mother Earth can easily sustain, and put our wasteful ways behind us. This may be easier said than done, what with greedy assholes who don't give a hang for anything but money and power, and their legions of clueless followers who still think they're swell guys. "The longest journey begins with the first step". This first step has yet to be taken because obsolete thinking still prevails.

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» RE: The alternative is oblivion Posted by: UnEasyOne
Food security and oil
Posted by: abrunvand on May 14, 2008 9:50 AM   
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The odd thing about this article is that it assumes that even during the comming crash the economy will be buzzing along in such a way that maintaining a simile of the current transportation infrastructure will be the primary need.

Meanwhile, it is becomming more and more obvious that local food production is not a snobbish luxury for foodies, but a necessary buffer against high oil prices.

Food security is going to require turning flat urban spaces like lawns and parking lots into small-scale agriculture. Zoning laws will need to be changed to allow urban chickens, front-yard vegetable gardens, fruit trees on parking strips and so on. Zoned parking requirements will need to be reduced in order to open up more space for such gardens.

I immagine that in the expensive oil economy of the future suburban living will lose its appeal and the U.S. will begin to look more like Europe with denser population centers serviced by rail lines. It's too bad we didn't build it that way in the first place, but the building pattern we followed did leave behind so much wasted space that it doesn't seem hopeless to think that it could be retrofit.

That is to say, the article is right that it isn't pleasant living in a cheap-oil infrastructure wihout being able to get cheap oil. On the other hand, an expensive-oil infrastructure could ultimately turn out to be a nicer place to live.

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Some facts and points in regard to Big Oil and the speculation and gouging of Americans..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 14, 2008 11:32 AM   
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Just a few notes for those of you who do not completely understand the Oil Industry..

The American Oil companies are 49% of OPEC and it was the American Oil companies who basically created OPEC and taught those of these Oil producing nations how to accomplish this and what it would mean and result in..

So if Oil is said to be selling for $120 per barrel let's say which it is now higher our American oil companies are only paying around $40-42 dollars per barrel so their profit per barrel is about 200%...!

They are allowed to lie about their profit margins to Congress and others and yet still tell their stock holders how terrific things are and well they are doing while crying crocodile tears of barely making over 7-8% profit as the chief economist of Exxon Mobil did last week before Congressman DeFazio last week..

Then when you buy gas approximately 1/3rd of that price is profits, call it $3.75 there is around $1.25 for the company not the gas station owners they make pennies maybe .10-.15 cents tops..!

Also a barrel of Oil is 42 gallons not 55 as many might think so at anything over $120 you are paying $3 dollars per gallon for crude oil fresh out of the ground..not at all refined or anything..that's outrageous..insane..stupid..!

Of course we are a stupid nation lead by really stupid people who have all but destroyed the world's greatest economy and army for that matter..

Now 61% of all the increase in Oil prices or gas prices is pure stupid Speculation and they now say the new ceiling for oil is $138 per barrel..!

Of course it will go much higher when Bush and Cheney attack Iran and even perhaps Syria even thought they do not produce oil..as it will be seen to be yet further destabilizing of the region, and now even more likely with Hezzbullah in control of Beirut and other sections of Lebanon..

It's a shame that American companies and our fellow Americans as well as foreign investors see fit to bring America to it's knees and there is not apparent will among our pathetic compromised corrupted leaders of both parties to do anything about it..

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Ya cuts yer corners when ya must, pilgrims...also, fortune favors the prepared!
Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 14, 2008 12:41 PM   
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So, my wife and I just got water up to our dashboards last night. Both cars are sunk (err, "were sunk", literally). They weren't extravagant--a little sentra and a slightly bigger taurus, but they were paid for, so we'll be getting their equivalent value in cash from state farm.

Why do I relay this? What a great opportunity to take two decent cars worth of cash and downsize to one-plus-a-bicycle, and then put the rest in savings for a house for the day when people and banks finally start breaking down and selling their houses for rock-bottom prices.

That's probably not something we'd do were gas still ninety-seven cents a gallon at the busy store on the way to high school back "in the day" (dating myself a little here).

Is it going to hurt? Nah, we'll drop our insurance load down to one car, and halve our current gas bill. My thighs and calves will hurt a little, but only until I lose about thirty extra pounds I've been carrying around with me to pedaling my bicycle.

So, while I get the fact that some families who have chosen to live so far from work/school/grocery that putting a car on the chopping block isn't a realistic option like it is for us, and I get the fact that some folks who work nights can't catch the bus, I must also point out that there are probably lots of folks out there who will--eventually--get sick enough of $4.00-$5.00 gas that they will sell/park their autos...

...and be wealthier, healthier, and indeed wiser for it. Providence helped us make that decision, but that doesn't mean practicality can't get you there, too. :)

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rn
Posted by: mnatra on May 14, 2008 1:39 PM   
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Europe has been paying high gas prices for yeas
and they seem to do Ok.
Lets ask them to invest in a reverse Marshall plan for the US to help get us out of this fix.

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Conserve
Posted by: ImSwiss on May 14, 2008 1:57 PM   
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In 1971 I was in Germany and they had a law that you could not idle your car for more than 5 minutes. 1971.

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