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Anti-Feminist Backlash Out in Full Force

By Katha Pollitt, The Nation. Posted May 9, 2008.


Republican hegemony, conservative Christianity and misogynist media are taking their toll.
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Washington University is giving Phyllis Schlafly an honorary doctorate. Let me run that by you again. Washington University, the distinguished 155-year-old seat of higher learning in St. Louis, is giving an honorary degree to Phyllis Schlafly -- archfoe of the Equal Rights Amendment, the United Nations, Darwinism and other newfangled notions, and the promoter of innumerable crackpot far-right conspiracy theories who called the Bomb "a marvelous gift that was given to our country by a wise God." Her eighty-two years haven't mellowed her one bit: last year she blamed the Virginia Tech massacre on the English department; called intellectual men "liberal slobs;" advocated banning women from traditionally male occupations like construction, firefighting and the military; and defended men's property rights over their wives' vaginas ("by getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape"). The campus is in an uproar, and no wonder. After four years of hard work, female seniors get to watch their school honor someone who thinks they should park their diplomas in the kitchen sink. Washington U might as well bring in mad misogynist Chris Matthews as commencement speaker. Oh. You mean...? No! Yes.

Tell me the backlash against feminism isn't crackling up a storm. I try to keep my eye on the big picture and the bottom line: education, employment, autonomy, power. Surely, I tell myself, the fact that half of all new med students are female is more important than Paris Hilton's omnipresent visage; that a woman has made the first viable run for the presidency says more about the United States than that media clowns like Matthews basically call her a crazy castrating bitch on a daily basis; or that Caitlin Flanagan, smarmy enemy of working mothers (and another big believer in compulsory sex for wives), won a National Magazine Award for reviews and criticism.

But sometimes I think we're truly going backward, as Republican hegemony, conservative Christianity and anti-feminist media propaganda take their cumulative toll. All those judges, all that money, all that shock jockery, all those magazines obsessively following stars' weight and baby bumps: it would be strange if they had no effect. As far as concrete setbacks go, look no further than the case of Lilly Ledbetter, whose right to sue for pay discrimination was denied by the Supreme Court last May. In a 5-to-4 decision, the Justices overturned the standard interpretation of existing law to declare that Ledbetter was twenty years too late: the victim of pay discrimination must sue within six months of the initial discriminatory act -- never mind whether she knew about it (many employers, including Ledbetter's, forbid workers from discussing their salaries; she found out she was paid less than any man at her level from an anonymous tip). Given the realities of life, the Court has given employers the nod to pay women less, as long as they can keep the women in the dark for 180 days. In April a bill to restore women's right to sue failed in the Senate, 56-to-42, because for some reason everything now needs sixty votes to become law. John McCain said the bill would lead to too many lawsuits (hello? all it would have done was restore the law we'd lived with for forty-four years); what women needed was more "education and training." Because right now, women are just too dumb to merit equal pay. As Dahlia Lithwick wrote in a coruscating piece in Slate, if women take this sitting down, maybe they really are dumb.


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Damned Feminists - Damned Welfare Moms - Damned Equal Rights. How I survived being a woman.
Posted by: Angela Hayden ART GODDESS on May 10, 2008 9:53 AM   
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Where do you think you are? In America?

Some men believe its a pain in the ass for women to want equal rights. Hell, my mama raised five kids on her own after my drunken, abusive father left. He broke her nose twice and nearly killed me. She didn't have time to think about being a feminist. She was just a poor woman trying to survive in our society.

She sure as hell didn't expect to be raising us on her own. She did have to go on welfare, food stamps and student aid to get her nursing degree. She was a damned welfare mom. She worked full time at night and went to school full-time during the day. We didn't see much of her for four years.

She couldn't find a boyfriend that wanted to marry a woman with five kids. She got a job after four years on welfare and supported us. She died at the age of 45 from leukemia. I think it was pure exhaustion.

After I repeated the circle of violence and married an abusive man, I too left and became a damned welfare mom. I too collected food stamps and received aid to go to college. My two daughters were on Medicaid. After two years on welfare, I too got a job and tried to support my family. The whopping $200 a month in child support really didn't help much. Especially since daycare was $100 a week. My job paid $38,000. It sucked. I had a nervous breakdown. I didn't have any family around to help me. My mom, dad, grandmother and grandfather we dead. I couldn't afford to stay home when my youngest was sick and daycare wouldn't accept her either. I was always getting in trouble at work because I'd have to leave because something was going on with one of the girls from ear infections to head-lice.

I sure as hell wasn't thinking about being a feminist during all that hell. I was thinking about surviving.

Now that I do have time to think about being a feminist, I think I am. I'm a feminist and I believe in equal rights for everyone. I'm thankful to have married a good man and am enjoying getting to know what goodness is.

Sincerely,

Angela Hayden
Angela Hayden Blog

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» Well, I can't be certain Posted by: JimmyVaughan
What is it with the USA?
Posted by: mandiwrite on May 12, 2008 3:56 AM   
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I find myself looking at the USA with a kind of anthropological curiosity. This is the country which says it wants to bring democracy to the world. What is democracy worth if, in the 'greatest democracy on earth' women are constantly having to defend their rights to such incredibly basic things as equal pay? I look across the water at places with a history of social democracy, where such Neanderthal thinking would be laughed to scorn, and I wonder. Would I rather look to the States (the country of birth, guaranteed, of all the furious posters who will gush forth in short order on this site about feminazis and castrating women) or would I take my lead from, say, Denmark, where men and women simply expect to share equally in childcare?
It's important to figure it out, you see, because I live in the so-called developing world, in a country where our no doubt backward constitution enshrines gender equality (we even offer our gay friends the right to get married); but perhaps we should follow your lead and pay no attention to those rights. I mean, surely the USA doesn't operate on the principle of "Do as I say, not as I do"?
Hmmm. Maybe not. After all, this is the country which asks us to throw open our doors to global business, no holds barred - but continues to protect its own farmers and industries (like the steel industry). So I guess it's OK for you guys to behave like a bunch of rednecks, talking about 'ma woman' and how givin' her a good beatin' is good for her... while expecting the rest of the world to observe faithfully those rights you disrespect.
Not! How about removing the veils from *your* female citizens before you go getting all self-righteous about the veils in our countries?

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» RE: What is it with the USA? Posted by: Cathyblj
Disparaging and hating women alive and well in chrosto-fascist AMERKIA
Posted by: raine1 on May 12, 2008 4:24 AM   
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I was born in 1951. I lived through the horrors of my father beating my mother nearly to death while the police looked the other way, insisting her injuries were self-inflicted. I lived through the man beating me and my brothers (but more often me) bloody and being thought of as the clumsiest kids in school (what else would explain all those black eyes??). I married early, had four beautiful kids, put MYSELF through school because damned if anyone else was going to , earning me the resentment and mistreatment of a husband who wanted a barefoot pregnant wife who walked ten paces behind him, just as he was taught to do by society and was the butt of all his hateful misogynist jokes. Tired of his mistreatment, I divorced him in 1977 when divorce was a dirty word. I then took a job in an all male field. the job paid enough to support my four kids that weren't going to be supported by their father. I was given the most dangerous assignments, and if i balked at them, i would have been written up and fired. I was routinely discriminated against when it came time for promotions, even though my work and test scores were superior to the 27 men i "worked with." Those same 27 men held union meetings trying to make sure i didn't get earned promotions, claiming i "was sleeping with the boss" in order to pass tests, even though those tests were given in full group, in full view of each other. Because i was a woman, i couldn't possibly be smarter than the men around me...and besides, "they all had families to support", as though my kids were chopped liver, or an after thought...as though i didn't have four kids to feed, clothe, house, educate.despite horrible discrimination, because i fought hard against it, i rose through the ranks, fighting tooth tong and toenail to make a decent living for myself and my family. i bought a house at higher interest rates than a man making the same salary because women "are higher risk." I was asked terribly personal questions about bodily functions ("when was your last period?") in job interviews. I was sexually harassed (a lot of ass pinching and crude jokes) and when any of it was brought to the attention of human resources, i was ignored or worse, vilified for attempting to have a workplace that didn't include being degraded because of my gender. yet, somehow, i got through all of this muck, reared my young, retired, more or less, to do what i pretty much please with almost enough in the bank each month to survive. if i had been born male, i know i wouldn't have had such a tough time. i would have been supported in my education; my retirement would have been far more solid economically and more than likely, my hair wouldn't be quite as white as it is today at 56. my grandmother went through the same hell in the 30's. My daughter is having a rough time of it as a single woman without kids....the only thing that has changed over four generations are calender dates. given enough time, i do believe the conservative (make that radical) movement would have women "back in our place"...in burka, as well. if women don't stand up together and demand equal treatment through the US Constitution, we will NEVER be treated as full human beings. Until we demand an end to patriarchy, we will never be free. Woman and man were meant to live side by side, not one in subservience to the other...we women have the power to change the world, we simply need to exercise it. we do this by teaching our sons that man and woman are equal beings. we teach our daughters to demand respect and expect equality. we women must teach each other to stand up and not take anything less than equality on every level with men.

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» thank you for you comment Posted by: e rice
» I like you already! Posted by: stellabloo
The Real Truth about diversity in women
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 12, 2008 4:28 AM   
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Frankly I can understand the Mind Controlled result of oppressed Upbringing as those like Shafly. It's the same syndrome which occurs when a captive begins to identify with their captors.They are mere products of their up bringing and revolt even against those who attempt to Free them (same thing happens when Cops go into Domestic violence situation. Cops must watch the vitim as closely as the perpetrator for attempts at retailiation.
However the most disturbing is the division of 'Feminist' and Libber. Perhaps perpetuated by the same mental defense Ssytem, but willing to subject another to the inhumanity to merely free or get revenge for themselves. Similar behaviors were seen during the Slave trade era- Africans helping find, kidnap and sell people of their own race. Also seen in Hitlers Germany- jews working Withthe Nazi's to avoid the persectuion, even in the White man's Quest to seize Ameircan Indian land during the Expansion. It has taken hold with in the womans movement- willing to foregone what is best for All AmericaNs to assure one of "OURS" is put in the WH. Intentionally refuse to see Her 'experience' over the last 35 yrs in ragrds to Womens "rights" has done nothing execpt push our rights Back. Still only making $0.77 to a Man's $1.00, Roe v Wade on the ground and upto the count of 8, Childrens welfare, education and potential undermined, elder care worse then 'Warehousing', and Murder the new way to Divorce.
Real Libbers have watched not only Our Rights but our fellow Minorities rights be usurped and seized. While 'Feminist' Proclaim the fact women are more visible in the Public Square- but to little consequence in the bigger Pictue. The antiquated an doutdated ( and diversional) Organization such as NOW has been invisible an dsilent for decades, even taking up the ideology that Reverse Sexism does not constitute Sexism. When One Persons rights and freedoms AND Opportunites are forfeited or sacrificed- All Mankinds is the Victim. Libbers want equality for ALL and Reject this Short sighted, self promoting Ideology as we did when it was coming from the White male dominated Hierarchy. The Suppression of 'Yin' undermines the power and legitiamcy of 'Yang'. We will not work out of the 'handbook' of those who have suppressed and oppressed US to gain power nor maintain it.

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» My apology Posted by: JimmyVaughan
» Thanks for the '1' Posted by: JimmyVaughan
Please say
Posted by: walldodger1969 on May 12, 2008 4:38 AM   
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Amen to these first three comments!

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GemaJabe
Posted by: gemajabe on May 12, 2008 5:24 AM   
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Maybe if self-described feminists such as yourself hadn't been so quick to jump on the Obama bandwagon, we might have been able to run a viable female Democrat for President for the first time since I voted for President in 1960 when, and still now in 2008, I have a choice once again between two males.

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» Sexist is sexist Posted by: kepstein7777
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Phyllis Schlafly
Posted by: bitsfick on May 12, 2008 6:22 AM   
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According to the dictionary, a misogynist is someone who hates women, so I would assume that to mean that Phyllis Schlafly is a misogynist. What I don't understand is how a woman can hate herself. Something to do with potty training perhaps.

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» RE: Phyllis Schlafly Posted by: Pax99
» RE: Phyllis Schlafly Posted by: helenwheels
Unfortunately...
Posted by: Q30 on May 12, 2008 6:23 AM   
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...feminists like Pollitt, Faludi, et al have been playing this tired, old "Backlash" record for almost 20 years now and it hasn't gotten more compelling with constant repetition.

This is because as feminism has progressed (and everyone admits that it has) the need for feminism evaporates. Admitting any progress whatsoever would put feminism out of business.

It is a losing proposition to acknowledge successes, which is why we keep hearing of "backlash" and how "X proves that feminism is needed more than ever" when "X" is basically anything. In effect, they're saying: We've made so much progress but we've hardly made any progress at all.

Look-around the feminist blogosphere and you'll see that they are often reduced to complaining about things like TV commercials or complaining about social ills which impact men to an even larger extent. You'll often notice that much feminist rhetoric, with unintentional irony, simply inverts the most shameless kinds of sexism because it's perfectly okay when they do it.

In fact- since the state of women's rights in the Islamic world has entered the public eye so prominently- feminist priorities have started to look so utterly clueless in the eyes of the public. Pollit recently felt compelled to circulate a petition to say, in effect, "no we actually DO care about that stuff! Really!" www.thenation.com/blogs/anotherthing?bid=25&pid=273005

Now let us commence with the predictable and tiresome accusations of misogyny (which will, of course, NEVER backed-up of substantiated). Feminism's skin has become so thin that personal attacks are now its first line of defense.

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» RE: Unfortunately... Posted by: ankhet
» It is possible... Posted by: Q30
Feminist Backlash fueled by The Womens Movement
Posted by: robbie.seal on May 12, 2008 6:33 AM   
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The Womens Movement lost all credibility with me when they backed President Bill Clinton during the Lewinski uproar. Doesn't matter if she consented or not. He used his position to get sexual favors from a young woman. Anyway I look at that, its sexual harrassment. Exploitation. The "Leaders" of the womens movement got in line behind that pervert said, "ITS ONLY SEX". Your leaders provided the spark for the backlash. I am a full supporter of equal rights, but you're going to have to get some leaders who will put principle over politics if you're going to defeat stupidity. The oppressed participate in their own oppression.

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» You're right. Posted by: Q30
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» What you don't understand Posted by: robbie.seal
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» That I will do Posted by: robbie.seal
» Took me a while Posted by: robbie.seal
» Of course... Posted by: robbie.seal
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» Great comment. Posted by: JimmyVaughan
» thank you Posted by: e rice
» Only one part addressed the post Posted by: robbie.seal
Don't forget that feminist CIA types were used to infiltrate and split social movements in the 1960s
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 12, 2008 6:55 AM   
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I'm just going to post another person's comment, cause I'm feeling lazy:

"RE: I love how these ancient issues are spun into the leading issues by Ms.
[Report this comment] [Ignore this user] Posted by: pfeifer999 on May 7, 2008 12:37 PM
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ABSOLUTELY right.

I've argued with "pro-lifers" who said they would adamantly refuse to back a law that outlawed abortion except in cases of documented medical necessity to save a mother's life, because it would "legitimize" abortion.

I've argued with "pro-choicers" who said they would adamantly refuse to back a ban even on partial-birth abortion (which by any honest definition is infanticide) because it would erode "womens' rights."

The issue is so completely polarized that nobody can even agree on a common vocabulary, much less agree on how to find a compromise. So while we're all distracted with this issue, a tiny group of ultra-elite power brokers is driving the greatest republic the world has ever seen right off the edge of a cliff.

Marie Antionette said "let them eat cake."

Our elites just have us fight over abortion."


Or, we could say that elites try to divide the public along race, class, gender and cultural lines, and that "divide and conquer" is really the mantra of the corporate press (including the 501(c) nonprofit corporate outlets).

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» The Poor Posted by: pdxstudent
Divide & conqure, Baby
Posted by: Pax99 on May 12, 2008 6:58 AM   
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The more the right, be it political, theological, or industrial keeps the rest of us at odds with each other the more they stand to benefit from our distraction. The more money they make, the more control they gain, the more they minimalise any rights and freedoms we have...had...thought we had.

If it wasn't so damned tragic it would be funny how much the US is becoming exactly what they claim to hate and what they claim to be fighting in Iraq. Where's the logic in becoming a clone of what you claim to be opposed to? Follow the money trail....and the fact that Bush has bought retirement property on another continent.

Land of the free? Spare me, when you don't even control your own genitalia you don't even have visiting rights with free. Pretty nasty wake up call to the young ones who wondered what the hell the old shool femisists were on about, we can only hope they heard it in time.

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» RE: Divide & conqure, Baby Posted by: ankhet
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» too much GTA Posted by: Zenobia
How to make women powerful
Posted by: fearless flower on May 12, 2008 8:13 AM   
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These are the things that please the religious right in this country in the name of "moral correctness":
1. Strip a woman of her identity and brand her as property of a man by having her take her father's name at birth and then give it up for another man's name at the time of marriage.
2. Cause her to be the house slave to her husband and family, her whole purpose in life being celebrated as birth giver and care taker.
3. Punish her for embracing this role by kicking her out of the hospital a day after giving birth or three days after having a C-section. And if she has the audacity to try to be a working woman, deny her maternity leave and a social worker to help her at home during her recovery. And let's not forget to pass laws that make it difficult or impossible for her to make decisions about having more children.
4. Reward her faithful service as a stay at home full time home maker by denying her any social security earnings during the many years it took to care full time for her growing children. Don't even think about compensating her with government money for doing "the holiest of occupations." After all, a mother's work is its own reward, is it not?
5. If and when her husband tires of her and goes off with another, or if she decides to get out because of abuse, don't bother to pass stiff child support laws and enforce them. After all, it must have been the woman's fault the marriage didn't last, right?
6. Deny vigorously that there remains any discrimination against women in this country and accuse any who complain of it of being losers and malcontents.
Only a woman who has been through these things can know what I'm talking about. But you know what? These are the very things that make women so powerful in the end. That's why I believe the religious right is doomed to hang itself with its own rope.
I never thought I'd hear myself say such things, coming from my background as a very religious person and stay at home mother for many years. Marriage only works if people are perfect and sinless. In other words, it doesn't work. The best thing society can do is to plan on its failure and make sure that women are not hurt by it more than men.

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» RE: How to make women powerful Posted by: tinfoil hattie
All Due Respect
Posted by: Southern Gal on May 12, 2008 8:15 AM   
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Men can't fully understand what it's like to be a woman and women can't fully understand what it's like to be a man. The best that we can do is listen to each other and respect each other. I may not agree with what some of you have to say, but I respect that you have a your opinion and your experiences that shape the way you view things. All of us need to focus on the class war that is going on in this country and work together to address that.

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» They can have their class war Posted by: messedup
» Great comment Posted by: JimmyVaughan
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Like, Duh!
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on May 12, 2008 8:47 AM   
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Republican Hegemony?

Conservative Christians?

Bla, bla bla, bla blee bla bla?

First of all republicans and the democrats are equal in blame right now. But thats beside the point because it is bipartisan groups such as the CFR that really control things.

And I bet you dont even know what a conservative is. Hell, most Bush voters dont even know what it means to be conservative. Conservative is being against doubling the budget of the federal government. There's a whole laundry list of things that arent conservative about so called conservatives. But that dont matter to you does it? Yet somehow you expect to be taken seriously.

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» Understandable confusion Posted by: westomoon
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...!"
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 12, 2008 9:13 AM   
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Kieth Olbermann is turning his whole show into the anti-Hillary show..is it misogyny or does he just have it in for Hillary..it's really gotten rather boring of late and I would have thought it beneath him..

Of course he can't do any reports of the Pentagon phony pundits, Band of Liars Story so Hillary bashing is what it seems he and MSNBC are myopically focused on..

It's also rather interesting how women turn on their own the way they do, down right savage if you ask me..

Why does our corrupted fascist corporate media want the Democrats to nominate Obama so badly..I wonder..?

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain..it's only David Rockefeller and those wonderful Bilderberers..

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» Please spare me the violins Posted by: Kym525
» RE: Please spare me the violins Posted by: JimmyVaughan
american women listened to schafly
Posted by: e rice on May 12, 2008 9:14 AM   
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schafly graduated from harvard law school. she married a rich man. she had children. she had nannies and other servants.

then, she decided to campaign against women right's by going on lecture tours, for which she was paid. extremely well paid. by the american women who shelled out their money to listen to her.

american women listened to a rich, harvard law school graduate, whose children were being raised by nannies while she worked at destroying women's rights, listened to her tell them that they shouldn't get a degree, as she had, shouldn't leave their children in someone's else's care in order to work, as she had, should be satisfied with husbands' incomes that didn't begin to approach her own husband's income.

american women listened--and agreed--in great numbers and helped defeat the ERA (schafly lied about it, telling her audiences that it would force women to share public restrooms with men--yes, that was a major problem, according to schafly).

american women went on to ignore or accept the sexualization of ever younger girls in the name of beauty pageants and media exploitation. went on to ignore or accept the increasing brutalization of this culture by the media and computer games creators. continued to push their daughters to become popular in high school, even if they had to become unpaid whores to do so. bought the magazines that told them to do anything to please a man, that the best thing they could do for themselves was marry a man with money.

most of the american women who benefitted from feminists' efforts to ensure equal education and equal pay for women, who increasingly entered male-dominated professions (though not at equal pay) went on to proclaim and insist that they were not feminists--even though they were perfectly happy to take the opportunities feminists created.

how many american women know anything about the ledbetter case? or care? did they take to the streets in protest?

american women voted for the scum that destroyed the middle class and increased the povery of the poor. just like their men.

did american women protest when insurance companies paid for viagra but refused to pay for birth control, even for endometriosis?

american women are as self-destructive and ignorant as the majority of american men. so why the surprise at schafly's newest degree?

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OK, I finally get it (maybe)
Posted by: willymack on May 12, 2008 10:07 AM   
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All the anti-feminists are the way they are because they don't have mothers, sisters, girlfriends, or wives, so they don't know any better, right?

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» obviously not Posted by: e rice
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» Ha, Ha! :) Posted by: JimmyVaughan
Well...
Posted by: Blue Heron on May 12, 2008 11:26 AM   
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I'm not going to add to all the nastiness here, except to say that those who rule the world are almost never held close to peoples' hearts. Look at how America is frowned upon today. Men have ruled with the same fist of steel for millennia and we all know who a child would run to if given a choice - it is always a woman. And who do you remember being kind to you when you were little? Eat your pride and admit it was always the female in the group.

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Fun-da-mental-ists Religion-aholics are a bane to freedoms...
Posted by: Bearzerker on May 12, 2008 12:18 PM   
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... everywhere, to this end we will always find Patriarchs and their never ending fight for control!
and easy control starts with women and children!

so women everywhere...
if your feeling oppressed and distressed... walk out and start over...
its never too late to find happiness, as happiness is rarely found from another's vision of the Godhead...

Happiness emanates from inside of you no matter your race creed sex or orientation...
Throw off the husks of the mentalists and find like minded individuals that will help you realize YOUR potential!

yeah God IS real... but his temple is you!
so take care of it

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Good Song
Posted by: Love Me, I'm a Liberal on May 12, 2008 12:25 PM   
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Ten short years of progressive change,
fifty fucking years of calling us names.
Can we trade title nine for an end to hate crime?
RU-486 if we suck your fucking dick?
One step forward, five steps back.
One cool record in the year of rock-rap.
Yeah we got all the power getting stabbed in the shower and we got equal rights on ladies night. Feminists we're calling you.
Please report to the front desk.
Let's name this phenomenon.
It's too dumb to bring us down.

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Grand Theft Auto 4 gives the Player Choice
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on May 12, 2008 1:18 PM   
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The player gets to decide what to do in that virtual world.

They can use prostitutes if they want, they can kill them if they want.

They can kill anyone if they want. The game gives the player freedom to make an incredibly wide variety of choices.

Don't blame the game just because some players choose to kill prostitutes in it.

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What is YOUR feminism??
Posted by: realmuzik on May 12, 2008 1:18 PM   
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http://www.bitchmagazine.org

A new, hopefully worldwide discussion on this topic is beginning here. The chronic issue at-hand is that feminists are divided on too many issues we should be "together" on. We have become polarizing and self-serving, living "in our own worlds." We need to get out of these "own worlds" and come together on common grounds such as reproductive freedom, pay equity, and advocating for a better culture and society that doesn't insult, discriminate, marginalize, and stigmatize. Enough with the bashing, trashing, and cat-fighting. Children and teenagers are buying into images and messages that are not good for them at all. Too many of their parents see FOX News, Entertainment Tonight, and TMZ as their most reliable news sources anywhere. That's why feminism is more necessary than ever. The time is now to get organized starting these conversations.

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Historical Background
Posted by: WyrdSister on May 12, 2008 1:44 PM   
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Early Matriarchal Societies

Until about 1900 B. C., the natives of Greece were peaceful, agrarian people, who lived in scattered, independent villages and followed a female-dominated religion. In these matriarchal societies, the Great Goddess or Mother Goddess personified Mother Earth (Gaia) and was the supreme deity. She was the source of all human life and the source of all food. To survive, societies needed to produce children and to produce food. They knew how dependent they were upon the blessings of the Great Goddess, and they worshipped her properly so they would receive those blessings.

The queen personified the Great Goddess, and she wielded great political, economic, social, and religious power. Other women were considered daughters of the Great Goddess. Thus, all women in the matriarchal society were highly valued, and women held a superior position to men in society. Women were the heads of their families, and inheritance passed from a mother to her daughters, with the youngest daughter being most important because, presumably, she would be the last to die and thus would continue the family line the longest. Children were reared by their mother and her brother, while the father lived in the home of his mother and helped rear his sister's children. The children's primary moral obligations were to their mother and their siblings.

When the male's role in procreation became understood and valued, the queen took a husband, called the sacred king, for one year. At first, he was her brother or her son, but later he was a youth who symbolized her son. Many youths competed for the great honor of being sacred king. They had to win many contests involving physical strength and the skillful use of the bow.

Each spring, when the seeds of the new crops were sown, the past year's sacred king would be sacrificed as part of a major religious ceremony. The priestesses of the Mother Goddess would eat his flesh in order to acquire his powers of fertility, and the fields and farm animals would be sprinkled with his blood so they too would become fertile. Then in a religious ceremony the queen would take a new sacred king for the coming year.

Early Europeans in this area worshipped earth god