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The Superdelegate Problem

By Bernard Weisberger, Truthdig. Posted May 9, 2008.


The conflict between popularly chosen delegates and powerful, unelected "superdelegates" may seriously wound the Democratic Party.

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Though there are still primaries left, the Democratic Party may be headed for an August dilemma. Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama is likely to enter the convention with a clinching majority of committed delegates chosen by voters in primaries and caucuses, but Obama is almost guaranteed to have more of them. So, barring a huge late turnaround, the deciding votes will come from the approximately 800 "superdelegates," automatically seated ex officio and free to vote as they please.

Who are these powerful insiders? Why are they there? The story goes back 40 years, to when the party, battered by the bloody debacle of the 1968 convention and subsequent loss to Richard Nixon, revised its method of selection to bring in more delegates who were outside the official circles of power, particularly women and people of color.

But in 1972 George McGovern lost 49 states. In 1976 Jimmy Carter squeezed out a close win over Gerald Ford, who was still floundering in the blowback from Watergate, and in 1980 Carter was buried under a Reagan landslide. In 1982, looking at this record of three losses in four tries, the party leaders decided to reform their earlier reform and bring back seasoned veterans familiar with the unlovely sausage-making machinery of actually choosing a candidate who can win.

The list now includes all Democratic members of Congress and of the Democratic National Committee, all sitting Democratic governors, all living former Democratic presidents and vice presidents and all past Democratic majority or minority leaders in both houses of Congress. They make up about 20 percent of all the delegates -- but 40 percent of the 2,025 needed to nominate.

If the Clinton team can persuade these men and women by summer that Obama is unable to win the general election and they choose her despite primary vote numbers in his favor, there is sure to be a loud and anguished protest about the violation of the democratic process. Delegates who have sweated their way through grueling primaries to win votes for their favorite don't want to feel that they simply took part in a nonbinding beauty contest. But the "supers" (a term the Democratic Party officially dislikes) could bristle equally at the idea of simply rubber-stamping the decision of delegates swept into the convention hall on a possibly short-lived wave of enthusiasm for a charismatic candidate. Either way, when the winner's hand is raised on the platform amid the bands and the balloons, it's going to be a wounded Democratic Party that finally gets down to contesting John McCain. And there's a possibility that disgruntled stay-home supporters of the loser could hand the election to the Republicans.

The party's in a pickle for which reformers and counter-reformers prepared the vat and the spices.

The problem didn't arise sooner because in all the Democratic nomination contests from 1984 on, the winners had the victory sewed up before the opening gavel fell. The new formula yielded only two wins in six elections. Actually, three, for Al Gore would have clearly won in Florida but for the questionable denial of ballots to large numbers of African-Americans and the confusion of many elderly Democratic voters by a "butterfly ballot" that made it hard to pick out Gore's line. The Supreme Court's fiat, however, confirmed the theft.

In all it appears that the post-1968 reforms as modified by the post-1980 reforms have not been lucky for the Democrats. The law of unintended consequences that often dogs reformers may be at work.

Open primaries, first introduced at the start of the last century, were a wonderful democratizing idea. But no one could foresee how, a century later, the primaries themselves would suffer the debasements of the general election -- too much money required simply to enter the race, let alone win; too much media attention to personalities and too little to policies, principles and programs.

Certainly it was heartening after 1968 to see faces on the Democratic convention floor more representative of the variety of American voters. And most people do not yearn for the era of nominations made at 2 a.m. by the old (and white) boys in the smoke-filled rooms. Yet look at what the old system produced, contrasted with the new. In the 10 elections ending in 1968 the Democrats nominated Franklin D. Roosevelt four times, Harry Truman, Adlai Stevenson twice, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Hubert Humphrey. In the nine since then, McGovern, Carter twice, Walter Mondale, Bill Clinton twice, Gore and John Kerry. Whatever their individual virtues, it would be hard to argue that they represent a major improvement on those seven predecessors.

It does seem as if the arranged marriage between a system of popularly chosen committed delegates and a small but potentially decisive cadre of unpledged and unelected but highly experienced delegates has struck a snag. Whatever happens this November, thoughtful Democrats of all persuasions need to take another look, perhaps another stab, at reconciling the two -- or expediting a divorce.

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Bernard Weisberger is a retired historian, journalist and author of numerous books. He was a columnist for many years at American Heritage magazine. His most recent book of political history is "America Afire: Jefferson, Adams, and the Revolutionary Election of 1800."

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Work for democracy in USA's Democratic Primaries - 1627 pledged delegates threshold.
Posted by: aouie01 on May 9, 2008 12:23 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Obama plans to declare victory May 20.

If you value democracy enough then do what you can to promote the principles of democracy in the Democratic Primaries. The main stream media has been too obsessed with the 2025 number.

In the absence of a significant (impeachable) offense, all superdelegates should value democratic processes enough to support whichever candidate reaches the 1627 pledged delegates threshold.

While the Democratic party is free to select its own rules, it is up to the people to decide to stay with or leave an undemocratic Democratic party. "If you leave, then they may rebuild it." Don't leave too easily as the consequences may not be to your liking. Maybe instead you can pressure all superdelegates to openly state their willingness to go with the winner of the delegate count or the popular vote (not fair enough since some caucuses may not have counted the participants, but it is at least not as anti-democratic a stance).

Hope by the next Democratic party's primaries, the people can pressure the Democratic party to dump the undemocratic superdelegate concept and practice.
Sincerely,
Aouie
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Obama will not reach the 2,025 magic number on May 20. Rather, on that date he is all but certain to hit a different threshold—1,627 pledged delegates, which would constitute a winning majority among the 3,253 total pledged delegates if Florida and Michigan are not included.

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Democratic party failed to have a democratic Democratic primary in Florida and Michigan.
Posted by: aouie01 on May 9, 2008 12:43 AM   
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In the absence of a fair and valid democratic Democratic Primary in Michigan and Florida, it does not make sense to count those states in figuring out the magic number.

The Democratic party has failed the people of Michigan and Florida when it comes to affording them the same amount of fairness and opportunity to participate in the Democratic Primaries as the rest of the country has. We may not agree on who within the party is to blame, but (almost) all of us can agree that the party as a whole did not have a fair and valid democratic Democratic primary in Florida and Michigan.

While it is unfair to the currently leading candidate Barack, it would still make sense for those who value democracy in the Democratic primaries to seriously consider pushing for a fair and valid democratic primary in Florida and Michigan. If however it appears quite unlikely that holding elections in those states will result in Barack not maintaining a simple majority amongst the pledged delegates, then the reluctance to spend on such a process is understandable.

Back when the decision to nullify the delegate count was made, most of the decision makers may have anticipated Hillary Clinton to have won the nomination long before the end of the primaries. Hope in the future the party will make more thoughtful resolutions that does not repeat mistakes like denying a fair and valid democratic Democratic primary election to the millions of people in Florida and Michigan who would have liked to have had their say.
Sincerely,
Aouie

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Party time!
Posted by: carbon-based on May 9, 2008 3:54 AM   
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The democratic party has lately proven itself incapable of running a primary or governing a country. Wait till the convention and see what happens when Fla and Michigan do not get representation. Disenfranchised again..just because they decided to move their conventions up early.

After this mess we think they can run a country? - Time to do away with the 2 party system.

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» Oh please... Posted by: Ayla87
Presidency is two-faceted
Posted by: robchapman on May 9, 2008 3:55 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This article represents the worst sort of demagogic hand-wringing in journalism.

There is little liklihood that the Super-Delegates will overturn the popular will, they are ELECTED OFFICIALS who have actually been elected to public office by the entire electorate.

The delegates are PARTY officials elected in Democratic primaries- they represent a much smaller and specific segment of the electorate.

Hence the validity of the Super-Delegates selection is as strong, if not stronger than the the pledged delegates selection.

Secondly, the nominee, if elected, will serve as President. The President stands directly before the public only twice. Once when elected, again, in the re-election campaign.

However, the President works with the Super-Delegates every day. They are the legislators and political auxilliaries upon whom the President depends to govern.

It is vitally important to us all, voters, delegates, super delegates, politicians and citizens alike, that the nominee and the Super Delegates can work well together.

If the the Democratic nominee cannot work well with the Super-Delegates, there is no chance of passing the legislation needed to carry on effective governance.

As things stand now, neither Obama nor Clinton can win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination.

Writers like this one and the public are overly involved in the horse race aspect.

We have a golden opportunity to contact the Super Delegates in our home constituencies and to impress upon them the issues we feel need work.

Constituents who are clear in stating their policy priorities give the Super-Delegates guidance in bargaining with the campaigns. The potential for affecting policy and governance through such bargaining is far greater than stating an intransigent preference for one or the other candidate and threatening to bolt the party if the demand is not met.

If the left is going to govern, we have to start learning how to negotiate and to make the sort of deals needed to assure that our priorities are shared by our elected representatives.

The left has played opposition long enough. The Right have shown themselves to be bullies. We must step up and bargain effectively and use all of the processes, from mass mobilization to legislative lobbying to achieve a governing majority and to govern effectively.

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» RE: Presidency is two-faceted Posted by: carbon-based
OBAMA HAS WON . . .
Posted by: Scientz on May 9, 2008 5:47 AM   
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. . . Hillary supporters, you're just starting to look desperate now.

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Throw the Neo Cons- the DLC -out of the Democratic Party
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 9, 2008 6:19 AM   
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The DLC and it's members are nothing close to Democrats (Hillary's "obliterate ' with Nukes-case in point).they are using the oxymoron 'Reagn Democrats' to explain their doctrine and candidate.No real Dem EVER supported ANYTHING Reagan did! Union busting ,AIDS spreading, Minority & working class oppressing,Religious Extremeist enabling, Cheny Corp Puppet!Hillary is nothing more then a "Neo Con' dressed in Blue.She has far more incommon with those usurpers of Democracy then any Real Republican does. Mac is just a Red herring, a victim of mental disablities caused by the torture & beatings he took while a POW. He sustained Head injuries which have begun to reveal themselves as he ages. Studies have shown not only long term incarceration causes abbhorrant behavior, but head injuries can cause memeory loss and violent/anti social behavior/personality changes (study serial & mass murders- Look for one sided eye droop of thee criminals). And the obvious physical changes in Mac leads me (worked w/ elderly) to wonder if he has not suffered a small stroke.
Mac is the back stop for Hillary's nomination and already inaugurated Crowning.Her actions and InActions while in the Senate and esp the Armed Services Com (con) sends sirens off in this Ol' Dems (2x Bill voter)Neo Con radar!

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» Damn my eye droop Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
» RE: Damn my eye droop Posted by: ChicagoPaul
» RE: Damn my eye droop Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
» RE: Damn my eye droop Posted by: ChicagoPaul
» RE: Damn my eye droop Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
Much Ado About Nothing
Posted by: ChicagoPaul on May 9, 2008 6:20 AM   
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While many Republican pundits and bloggers masturbate over this manufactured conflict between delegates and superdelegates, the real story is being missed.

Six months ago before any votes had been cast, Senator Clinton was the hands-down front runner for the nomination. In fact, she didn't really plan her campaign strategy past Super Tuesday, figuring that there would be no need. (Interesting irony here when you consider the lack of planning that has placed the US in such a quagmire in Iraq. Now, Hillary is stuck in her own quagmire!)

In six "short" months, Senator Obama has built, slowly, but surely, a lead in "elected" delegates and popular vote - to say nothing about campaign contributions. (Ironic also is the fact that Clinton has loaned her campaign over $11 million dollars, and this amount doesn't even dent the Clintons' assets. She's the "populist" while Obama is the "elitist" who probably couldn't come up with a million!!)

Just a few weeks ago, Clinton had a lead of over 100 superdelegates. Now the number is closer to 5. It is inevitable that the role will switch and he will be the leader in all categories. His planning - his campaign strategy - has proved to be brilliant.

An "nobody" has toppled a political dynasty. That's the real news.

People attribute Obama's rise to his charismatic personality. The real truth is he has had a brilliant strategy. He can organize supporters. He can attract diverse talents and supporters.

The Republican "wet dream" may soon turn into their worst nightmare.

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Dems do not have a problem.
Posted by: Ky Lake Dave on May 9, 2008 7:22 AM   
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Obama will get the nomination and the Democratic party will fall in line. The Liberal Friendly press is already dismissing Hillary and starting the attack campaign on McCain. Has anyone seen the Time Magazine Cover? The headline is "And the Winner is ..." over the picture of Obama.
The Dems will recover from this nose bleed and will probably overcome what a seriously weak candidate Obama is. He will get knocked around more about Rev Wright. The connection to the Terrorist leader William Ayres will do some damage but I think Obama's association with Mr. Rezko will be his biggest hurdle. Once more with the friendly Press swooning over every word Obama says, he should be ok. The American people are mostly sheep and will follow the majority of the press leanings.
I believe with McCain as the weak Republican nominee, Obama will win and win big in November. I am a Republican and McCain puts me to sleep. He will not inspire or rally this nation. Obama with his empty words and pretty but empty promises will. I think it is time for a very liberal president to be elected to remind the American People how very bad ultra-liberals are for the nation. We all need a little reminder of the Carter administration. Obama will be as bad or worst. It is just unreasonable to base your politics on what the People should do or what the People should feel. Assuming they will do the right thing. Most will do the right thing but you have to have contentions for those that will take advantage of every program coming down the pike.
It will be a joy to blame every tornado, every down beat on Wallstreet, every gas price hike, every hurricane and military setback on Obama. I am ready to take over the armchair warmed up by the Monday Morning Quarterbacks. And boy is this gonna be fun!

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» RE: Dems do not have a problem. Posted by: ChicagoPaul
» RE: Dems do not have a problem. Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
» RE: Careful for waht you wish for... Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
The Kamikaze Candidate
Posted by: HughScott on May 9, 2008 8:16 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Like a WWII Japanese suicide pilot, Hillary seems intent on going down in flames. Only she is being driven by ego, not patriotism.

The quicker she crashes and burns, the better for my man, Obama. and the worse for McCain.

Adios, Mrs. Sniper Fire.

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» There is a theory..... Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
The basic problem...
Posted by: bluepilgrim on May 9, 2008 9:48 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
is that the oligarchy wants to dictate what happens while still maintaining the illusion of informed citizens and democracy: this the games and gyrations -- and the inevitable breakdown.

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The real "superdelegate" problem
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on May 9, 2008 10:57 AM   
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The vast majority of the public can only choose between CFR Clinton, CFR Obama, and CFR McCain. Obviously that means it is the CFR that controls this country.

Since the general public does NOT control the CFR, it means there is no democracy / republic. That seems like quite a problem to me. Especially after you consider how badly the CFR is wrecking this country. And also when you consider the fact that their stated purpose is to destroy the sovereignty of the US. But since they own most of the media, they can paint whatever rosy picture of themselves that they want. And most sheeple buy it. That is precisely why most people are in debt, just like the whole country is hopelessly mired in debt. When you look at the country's finances, it looks like the entire country is living a lie. That's because it is! And that facade was manufactured by the CFR as a means to control the population while the rich loot all the wealth... all the real assets.

The CFR are the real superdelegates. Meh, dont listen to me, just go on pretending there is a difference between Hillary and Obama, and that these stuperdelegates are actually making an important decision. Go on pretending if it's what you do best.

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Which one would do best in November?
Posted by: Julian on May 10, 2008 12:28 AM   
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The superdelegates have to consider whether the endorsed candidate would win in November. The majority of voters in the Democrat primaries may be more politically savvy than the majority in the nation. Only in the heat of a presidential campaign (after candidate choices have been made) will it become known which of Clinton and Obama would be the more likely to win.

For a small fraction of the megabucks spent on the primaries, the evidence could be collected by engaging a front running professional polling organisation to take a statistically valid sample of the voting population as a whole and ask the following questions.

1. If Barack Obama and John McCain were candidates in a presidential election, would you (1) vote for Obama or (2) vote for McCain or (3) not vote for either?

2. If Hillary Clinton and John McCain were candidates in a presidential election, would you (1) vote for Clinton or (2) vote for McCain or (3) not vote for either?

It wouldn’t tell how the candidates would fare once the battle between the parties hotted up, but it would at least give a clue to how the voters would respond now. This would be some objective guidance to the superdelegates on where they should place their bets.

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