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The Military's Pricey Restaurant Tastes: Gone Are the Days of Grunts Peeling Potatoes
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When you think of food and the U.S. military, you undoubtedly picture a long chow line where a grunt serves up chipped beef on toast, lowly privates peeling potatoes on KP duty, and semi-inedible old C-rations or more modern military field fare like palate-numbing Meals-Ready-to-Eat (MREs).
But that's the old military, not the new, modern variant -- and not just because private corporations like Kellogg Brown & Root have taken over the mess halls from construction to cooking. These days, like the rest of America, the army loves to eat out. No messy preparation. No dishes to clean up. Not a chip of beef in sight. And, best of all, it's on someone else's tab. The U.S. taxpayer's. Judging by the Pentagon's own accounting, the army, navy, air force, and marines have been very hungry and they've been chowing down.
As it happens, the army has definite gastronomic tastes. Some ethnic foods, for instance, just about never make it to the table. Due to the arcane nature of the Pentagon's accounting, it is almost impossible to know for sure, but the tally on Asian food (although not Asian bases) appears to be:
Vietnamese restaurants 0
Thai restaurants 0
Indian restaurants 0
Japanese restaurants 0
And don't even ask about Afghan food!
But while it's a no-go on sushi, cooked fish is another military matter. In 2004, for instance, the army spent more than $5,000 at Chic-A-D's Cajun Chicken & Catfish Restaurant in Winnsboro, Louisiana. That same year, the catsh-hungry army dropped $6,500 at Capt'n Morgan's Steak & Catfish Restaurant in Diberville, Mississippi, and over $7,300 at Kenny's Katfish Depot in Dequincy, Louisiana. But since, as Napoleon once observed, an army marches on its stomach, the U.S. Army cannot live on catfish alone. Sandwiches are, apparently, also a must, so army eaters plunked down $13,845 at a Quiznos Classic Subs in Louisiana.
In Arkansas, the military dropped significant sums at such "Natural State" restaurants as: Rodeo Cafe ($3,485), Molly's Diner ($5,400), Annie's Family Restaurant ($8,996), and the Crispy Taco Mexican Grill ($19,283), among other establishments. While these 2004 gures were impressive, they paled in comparison to the combined sum paid out to just two El Nopal Restaurant locations in Arkansas (more than $423,000) in 2006. And for dessert, perhaps, the DoD spent a whopping $7.9 million at Arkansas's own White Dairy Ice Cream Company that same year.
But Arkansas was only a drop in the proverbial bucket (of chicken, no doubt). Military folks also sampled the fare at numerous other eateries across the country. Just a few examples from 2004:
- Copper Mill Restaurant (Logan, UT) $10,878
- Bristol Bar & Grille (Louisville, KY) $5,026
- Englewood Cafe (Independence, MO) $5,026
- Pericos Mexican Restaurant (Covington, TN) $4,050
- Big Mama's Kitchen (Fayette, AL) $3,705
- Timber Lodge Steakhouse (Sioux Falls, SD) $2,544
and some DoD favorites from 2006:
- City Caf (Elgin, TX) $26,350
- Home Plate Restaurant (Butner, NC) $47,917
- Pelican Caf (New Orleans, LA) $105,670
While the military clearly savors its catfish and tacos, what it really loves is barbeque! In fact, the military has sampled barbeque all across the United States -- from Shotgun's Bar-B-Que Restaurant in Texas and Bo's Pit Bar-B-Que in Missouri to the Pig N' Whistle in Tennessee and Longhorn Barbecue in Washington State. In 2004, the army shelled out at least $164,828 to get its fingers greasy. In2005 and 2006 combined, the Pentagon spent over half this amount at Corky's Bar-B-Que of Memphis, Tennessee.
While U.S. taxpayer dollars have regularly morphed into barbequed wings and ribs (with not a vegetarian restaurant in sight), the DoD wasn't completely gastronomically timid. In their travels abroad, military officials apparently did manage to sample foreign cuisine, supping at, among other places: Restaurant Schinvelderhoeve in the Netherlands ($2,133 in 2004) and Restaurante El Escudo Sociedad in Guatemala (an astounding $82,291 in 2004) and -- evidently the grand champion -- Singapore's First Street Cafe, where the DoD reportedly spent $151,883 in 2004, $216,646 in 2005, and, an astounding $310,776 in 2006, eating who knows what.
Mostly though, it's home-style comfort food and red meat in red states. In 2004, for instance, the army reportedly paid Shoney's, a purveyor of such eats as country-fried steak, chili-cheese fries, and its signature "Half-o-Pound" (a huge "chopped beef patty" adorned with "golden-fried onion rings"), more than $82,000. Just don't ask anyone to go over the top, or parachute from a plane, while that Half-o-Pound is settling.
The secret of courageous cuisine
In 2004, the Pentagon handed over $154,000 to the Secret Garden Cafe in Loma Linda, California. A call to the Secret Garden Cafe revealed that it was no longer a restaurant at all, but strictly a catering company, due to high demand from guess who? Its new name? Courageous Catering and Special Events. A manager at the new catering business offered the following explanation for its popularity: "We get recommended a lot because we use, like real butter, and we bring really good desserts and we only use black angus beef … and so they like us, and we use, like name-brand sodas instead of generics." The Army Reserve's 374th Chemical Company, she said, had just hired Courageous Catering to provide post-maneuver sustenance. For their inaugural menu, they roughed it with country-fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, beans, corn on the cob with butter for dipping, fresh fruit salad, corn mufns with butter, sodas, bottled waters, iced tea, and assorted cookies and dessert bars. Hold the chipped beef, but pass the black angus and those chocolate chip cookies, Sir!
Tommy Franks rides the rotisserie
In February 2003, U.S. News and World Report's Web site reported that then four-star general Tommy Franks was said to have actually enjoyed eating MREs, but when he had his druthers he "noshe[d] at the Tex-Mex restaurant Chevys." Franks's crowning culinary moment, however, may have been in 2002 when as CENTCOM commander and the leader of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, he and Outback Steakhouse CEO Chris Sullivan decided to ship "6,700 steaks, 30,000 shrimp and 3,000 giant onions" as well as "13,400 cans of O'Douls" nonalcoholic beer, all of it donated, to members of the 101st Airborne Division, based in Kandahar. The stunt garnered Outback some meaty press coverage, so it was perhaps less than startling when Franks's decision to leave the military was quickly followed by his decision to take a spot on Outback Steakhouse's board of directors. By 2005, it was reported that he was receiving an "annual retainer of $60,000 in cash and stock," in addition to the $100,000 in restricted stock he received for joining the board.
For years, the Complex has been typified by a revolving door between the armed forces and big-time defense contractors. Franks may be pioneering a new version of this for a new military moment. Think of it as the revolving rotisserie of the military-gastronomic complex. Others may soon join him. In May 2005, just over a month after Franks officially enlisted at Outback, fellow former four-star general and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell was the keynote speaker at the National Restaurant Association's annual conference. And the amusement park/pizzeria chain Chuck E. Cheese also seems like it's angling for a top general to join up. In fact, in 2005, it was found that all of the nearly 500 Chuck E. Cheese franchises were screening a montage of military footage, put together by the Pentagon, that even a company spokesman admitted could be interpreted as "prowar."
From the Book The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives by Nick Turse. Reprinted by arrangement with Metropolitan Books, an imprint of Henry Holt and Company, LLC. Copyright (c) 2008 by Nick Turse. All rights reserved.
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Posted by: Rune on May 8, 2008 1:46 AM
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What next, an in depth expose of the amount of fuel wasted by shipping kidnapping victims to far off lands to be tortured instead of committing those human rights violations closer to home? Get some perspective, huh? SHEESH!
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Posted by: Squarehead on May 8, 2008 3:12 AM
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Meanwhile, the Pakistani canteen operator had to operate on less than $7 per day, per man. The food quality was commensurate with $2.30 per meal. No fault of the Pakistani guy, he just was not given the resources.
I imagine that KBR did very nicely from their admin costs.
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Posted by: blogbooks on May 8, 2008 3:24 AM
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*Gasp*, military personnel away from home station on official government business eat food.
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Posted by: AndyF on May 8, 2008 4:29 AM
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For even less effort than was spent on this article, the author could have probably dug up some real dirt on wasteful spending related to contracted services or unnecessary weapon and support systems.
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Posted by: williameon on May 8, 2008 4:41 AM
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Chicken Feed in
The Black Hole called Defense!
A Smorgasbord of Expense
It vacuums the food right off your plate.
The Holy Grail of The American
Religion of violence.
Bend over to The Corpirates
God of Greed.
Same Greedy Bass-turds
Same Greedy Channel.
Profit my A-S!
It’s Highway Robbery.
Steal from the Poor to give to The Rich.
Pump that Schlock Baby.
Iraq!
Halliburton and Carlyle’s
Dicks Golden Goose.
Who is the largest user of Fossil Fuels in the World?
The U.S. Military.
Besides driving up oil supplies by disrupting the supply it,
Takes a lot of Fuel to make the Military Industrial Complex Hum.
Sitting Ducks in Hum-Vs only get a couple of miles per explosion.
No oil to heat your house but plenty to
Waste in a phony War.
Still playing with soldiers?
When will we grow up and move on.
Millions killed and for what?
Stop The War and Oil will drop by 50%.
Do you hear me NOW?
Turn the meat grinder off,
Kick the Jack Asses out of Washington and
Oil will drop by HALF.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 8, 2008 4:58 AM
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This not Cost effectiveness this is plain and simple Profiteering at the expense of not just money but safety & welfare of our citizens. Such Independent 'Contractors' should be not only thrown our of Gov't led ventures- both they and the Gov't insiders whould be prosectured for treason, War Crimes and Crimes aganist Humanity. Enough of these immoral and Unethical Business doctrines and the people who initiate them. It is time to really Change the way WE do buisness and With Whom. To halt this quickly and permanently Individulas must be convicted and Punished for their High crimes. it's time the Gov't and the Inc's find out what Real Personal Responsiblity Is. They have been more than happy to 'Teach' US this lesson, killing US and our country while they float on their 'golden parachutes'
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Posted by: redceres on May 8, 2008 5:39 AM
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Chew on that.
The interesting part is that fully funding an undergrad degree for every American vet would cost less than the DoD's yearly recruiting bill.
The military is pulling these costly corporatized food shenanigans as a retention gimmick (read: a cheap buyoff).
Oh-- and one more thing: the people who profiteer around weapons/war and the people who profiteer around the privitization of necessities such as food and water are THE SAME PEOPLE.
At least, they're all committing or complicit in a conspiracy to put regular folk world-wide in an unbreakable chokehold.
When we ALL have to pay into the corporate system in order to eat or drink because this class of folk has bought up and locked down our food and water supplies under the guise of "free enterprise," maybe it will finally be time for that revolution that we're all too passive (pacified?) to spark.
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Posted by: QCao009 on May 8, 2008 5:47 AM
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Privatization now means profiteering.
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Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian on May 8, 2008 5:47 AM
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Call Congress and ask them to sign onto HR 5507 and not to fund this war supplemental. Call 202.224.3121 and ask to be connected to your Congressperson by giving your district, name or zip code. Then, tell your representative to stop funding this illegal occupation and sign-on to a comprehensive exit strategy outlined in HR 5507.
Do it now. Don't wait.
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Posted by: kungfoofighterx on May 8, 2008 6:11 AM
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Everyone desires a free now and again on the boss. I think it is part of our culture. Its probably part of every culture.
I didnt even get the point of this article. That the military doesnt spend a lot on assian food? Or maybe they are saying food is a waste of tax payer money? Editors are on vacation or maybe dead and the webmasters are still collecting their social security checks.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on May 8, 2008 6:52 AM
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If we built just one less warship or bomber this year, it would more than cover the costs discussed here, with enough left over to send several thousands of citizens to college tuition free. But we can't have that.
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Posted by: darsimaj on May 8, 2008 8:14 AM
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This is when the recruit gets his/her tray of food and the supervisor simply tells them to throw it in the trash.
The comeback? Well you are simply told that you were guaranteed 3 meals a day, but not time to eat them. So for the math people here ya go. Each company has 80 recruits and there are usually 12 companies training at a time. The Navy boot camp is 8 weeks long and this happened twice during those 8 weeks. So our company threw away 60 perfectly good meals and multiply that by 12 and you end up with over 700 discarded meals every 2 months.
I went to boot camp in 1984 and it was in practice and a graduate from April 2008 says that is still a practice. So, for over 24 years the Navy has been ok with throwing away millions of dollars of food, just because. Now multiply all that times the number of boot camps and you get a staggering amount of food and money wasted.
In a time when people are finding it difficult to purchase food, their tax dollars go to the military who finds it perfectly acceptable to throw the food in the trash.
I wrote my Senator, I suggest you all do the same. It angers me to no end.
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Posted by: larryfhilton on May 8, 2008 9:49 AM
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Please stop publishing this fool's rants and look at the billions being wasted by the military-industrial complex for some general's favorite new toys, 99% of which are not what we need to fight terrorists.
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Posted by: Jdog on May 8, 2008 10:53 AM
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As a Gulf War vet with 6-years active duty, I was curious to learn how things have changed. Had GI's been living fat, I would have been pleasantly surprised, actually, given how atrociously the Cheney Administration has treated them to this point...
Instead, I was disappointed by a goofy article that, clearly, was written by someone with no knowledge of the military or even the enormity of the military's budget. $800 billion in cash missing in Iraq and $20,000 for fish is the big deal?!?! Give me a fucking break.
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Posted by: drjasonmd on May 8, 2008 1:42 PM
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The real scandal here is the 3,000 bloomin onions! And O'Douls? The troops deserve better.
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Posted by: SOWILO on May 8, 2008 2:38 PM
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If we fought the Vietcong today we would be trounced even worse!!!
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Posted by: I-I on May 8, 2008 5:08 PM
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Rise up people and demand with me, "No BBQ on Our Watch!!!"
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Posted by: maxpayne on May 8, 2008 7:40 PM
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I strongly suggest that if you have a friend, spouse, son or daughter, etc ... who's in the army, please train them to cook well. They'll not only get true strength but they'll also stand up to the CHEATERS in Washington, Wall Street, Military Industrial Complex, war-mongering talkshow hosts, etc ... Now there's some real patriotism everyone can enjoy.
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Posted by: made2order on May 10, 2008 3:58 PM
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Propaganda. As I realize how the internet is corrupted big time
With DIS- INFO more daily. Our controllers hire more & more people opening
Websites to throw 95% truth to shock us with the intent to divide us, side-track &
Keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves, while they continue unstoppably their
Atrocities. In fact they laughing victoriously boasting of their vile crimes. They practically turned the internet useless, keeping us busy fighting on it instead of
Taking to actions to bring those bastards down & stop their illegal crimes against
Humanity.
So in other words, think twice, when you read stuff that infuriates you, it is in-
Tended to do so, why be a easy tool for them. Start united actions, Open forums for
Brainstorming together, humanity can survive this with flying colors if we start
Using our brains. Their next agenda is of course to starve us, threatening food
Rations. It’s about time we teach our kids to grow seeds, FRUIT trees all over,
Feed chickens instead of dogs & cats, community gardens, local cooperation.
That way our kids will not be so desperate to have to enroll into illegal wars
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Posted by: JohnTodd on May 10, 2008 6:15 PM
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Granted, it wasn't the best food, but it was adequate and it all tastes great when you are extremely hungry from all the stress and exercise.
I never saw any "Pass and review" at all, in fact, I heard several RDCs lambasting recruits for not finishing their meals. Couldn't FORCE them to eat, but could still yell abut it.
As for FORCING all soldiers to be meet-eaters, I disagree. I've been in 2 branches of the military (USN and now USA!) and have noticed that salad bars and fruit bars and also entrees and side dishes loaded with vegetables from raw to cooked are always available. I am a meat eater, but I could do just fine on everything else if no meat was available in the Dining Facility.
Keep in mind that soldiers train all the time: exercise, sweating in the field, etc. They will eat more because their bodies demand more calories. That's why the pound cake has 2000 calories in the MRE.
Just my .02
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Posted by: Rune on May 8, 2008 1:46 AM
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What next, an in depth expose of the amount of fuel wasted by shipping kidnapping victims to far off lands to be tortured instead of committing those human rights violations closer to home? Get some perspective, huh? SHEESH!
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Posted by: Squarehead on May 8, 2008 3:12 AM
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Meanwhile, the Pakistani canteen operator had to operate on less than $7 per day, per man. The food quality was commensurate with $2.30 per meal. No fault of the Pakistani guy, he just was not given the resources.
I imagine that KBR did very nicely from their admin costs.
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Posted by: blogbooks on May 8, 2008 3:24 AM
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*Gasp*, military personnel away from home station on official government business eat food.
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Posted by: AndyF on May 8, 2008 4:29 AM
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For even less effort than was spent on this article, the author could have probably dug up some real dirt on wasteful spending related to contracted services or unnecessary weapon and support systems.
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Posted by: williameon on May 8, 2008 4:41 AM
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Chicken Feed in
The Black Hole called Defense!
A Smorgasbord of Expense
It vacuums the food right off your plate.
The Holy Grail of The American
Religion of violence.
Bend over to The Corpirates
God of Greed.
Same Greedy Bass-turds
Same Greedy Channel.
Profit my A-S!
It’s Highway Robbery.
Steal from the Poor to give to The Rich.
Pump that Schlock Baby.
Iraq!
Halliburton and Carlyle’s
Dicks Golden Goose.
Who is the largest user of Fossil Fuels in the World?
The U.S. Military.
Besides driving up oil supplies by disrupting the supply it,
Takes a lot of Fuel to make the Military Industrial Complex Hum.
Sitting Ducks in Hum-Vs only get a couple of miles per explosion.
No oil to heat your house but plenty to
Waste in a phony War.
Still playing with soldiers?
When will we grow up and move on.
Millions killed and for what?
Stop The War and Oil will drop by 50%.
Do you hear me NOW?
Turn the meat grinder off,
Kick the Jack Asses out of Washington and
Oil will drop by HALF.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 8, 2008 4:58 AM
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This not Cost effectiveness this is plain and simple Profiteering at the expense of not just money but safety & welfare of our citizens. Such Independent 'Contractors' should be not only thrown our of Gov't led ventures- both they and the Gov't insiders whould be prosectured for treason, War Crimes and Crimes aganist Humanity. Enough of these immoral and Unethical Business doctrines and the people who initiate them. It is time to really Change the way WE do buisness and With Whom. To halt this quickly and permanently Individulas must be convicted and Punished for their High crimes. it's time the Gov't and the Inc's find out what Real Personal Responsiblity Is. They have been more than happy to 'Teach' US this lesson, killing US and our country while they float on their 'golden parachutes'
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Posted by: redceres on May 8, 2008 5:39 AM
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Chew on that.
The interesting part is that fully funding an undergrad degree for every American vet would cost less than the DoD's yearly recruiting bill.
The military is pulling these costly corporatized food shenanigans as a retention gimmick (read: a cheap buyoff).
Oh-- and one more thing: the people who profiteer around weapons/war and the people who profiteer around the privitization of necessities such as food and water are THE SAME PEOPLE.
At least, they're all committing or complicit in a conspiracy to put regular folk world-wide in an unbreakable chokehold.
When we ALL have to pay into the corporate system in order to eat or drink because this class of folk has bought up and locked down our food and water supplies under the guise of "free enterprise," maybe it will finally be time for that revolution that we're all too passive (pacified?) to spark.
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Posted by: QCao009 on May 8, 2008 5:47 AM
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Privatization now means profiteering.
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Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian on May 8, 2008 5:47 AM
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Call Congress and ask them to sign onto HR 5507 and not to fund this war supplemental. Call 202.224.3121 and ask to be connected to your Congressperson by giving your district, name or zip code. Then, tell your representative to stop funding this illegal occupation and sign-on to a comprehensive exit strategy outlined in HR 5507.
Do it now. Don't wait.
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Posted by: robbie.seal on May 8, 2008 6:02 AM
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Posted by: leland61 on May 8, 2008 6:03 AM
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Posted by: kungfoofighterx on May 8, 2008 6:11 AM
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Everyone desires a free now and again on the boss. I think it is part of our culture. Its probably part of every culture.
I didnt even get the point of this article. That the military doesnt spend a lot on assian food? Or maybe they are saying food is a waste of tax payer money? Editors are on vacation or maybe dead and the webmasters are still collecting their social security checks.
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Posted by: Actual on May 8, 2008 6:19 AM
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Posted by: swamiji on May 8, 2008 6:21 AM
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on May 8, 2008 6:52 AM
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If we built just one less warship or bomber this year, it would more than cover the costs discussed here, with enough left over to send several thousands of citizens to college tuition free. But we can't have that.
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Posted by: bitsfick on May 8, 2008 7:10 AM
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Posted by: darsimaj on May 8, 2008 8:14 AM
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This is when the recruit gets his/her tray of food and the supervisor simply tells them to throw it in the trash.
The comeback? Well you are simply told that you were guaranteed 3 meals a day, but not time to eat them. So for the math people here ya go. Each company has 80 recruits and there are usually 12 companies training at a time. The Navy boot camp is 8 weeks long and this happened twice during those 8 weeks. So our company threw away 60 perfectly good meals and multiply that by 12 and you end up with over 700 discarded meals every 2 months.
I went to boot camp in 1984 and it was in practice and a graduate from April 2008 says that is still a practice. So, for over 24 years the Navy has been ok with throwing away millions of dollars of food, just because. Now multiply all that times the number of boot camps and you get a staggering amount of food and money wasted.
In a time when people are finding it difficult to purchase food, their tax dollars go to the military who finds it perfectly acceptable to throw the food in the trash.
I wrote my Senator, I suggest you all do the same. It angers me to no end.
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Posted by: HughScott on May 8, 2008 8:59 AM
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Posted by: willymack on May 8, 2008 9:04 AM
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Posted by: larryfhilton on May 8, 2008 9:49 AM
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Please stop publishing this fool's rants and look at the billions being wasted by the military-industrial complex for some general's favorite new toys, 99% of which are not what we need to fight terrorists.
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Posted by: Jdog on May 8, 2008 10:53 AM
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As a Gulf War vet with 6-years active duty, I was curious to learn how things have changed. Had GI's been living fat, I would have been pleasantly surprised, actually, given how atrociously the Cheney Administration has treated them to this point...
Instead, I was disappointed by a goofy article that, clearly, was written by someone with no knowledge of the military or even the enormity of the military's budget. $800 billion in cash missing in Iraq and $20,000 for fish is the big deal?!?! Give me a fucking break.
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Posted by: lincolntalbot on May 8, 2008 11:11 AM
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Posted by: carbon-based on May 8, 2008 12:03 PM
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» That's not what this story is about - duh!
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Posted by: Rune on May 8, 2008 12:12 PM
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Posted by: drjasonmd on May 8, 2008 1:42 PM
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The real scandal here is the 3,000 bloomin onions! And O'Douls? The troops deserve better.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 8, 2008 2:06 PM
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Posted by: SOWILO on May 8, 2008 2:38 PM
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If we fought the Vietcong today we would be trounced even worse!!!
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Posted by: I-I on May 8, 2008 5:08 PM
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Rise up people and demand with me, "No BBQ on Our Watch!!!"
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Posted by: sofla100 on May 8, 2008 6:34 PM
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Posted by: maxpayne on May 8, 2008 7:40 PM
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I strongly suggest that if you have a friend, spouse, son or daughter, etc ... who's in the army, please train them to cook well. They'll not only get true strength but they'll also stand up to the CHEATERS in Washington, Wall Street, Military Industrial Complex, war-mongering talkshow hosts, etc ... Now there's some real patriotism everyone can enjoy.
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Posted by: made2order on May 10, 2008 3:58 PM
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Propaganda. As I realize how the internet is corrupted big time
With DIS- INFO more daily. Our controllers hire more & more people opening
Websites to throw 95% truth to shock us with the intent to divide us, side-track &
Keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves, while they continue unstoppably their
Atrocities. In fact they laughing victoriously boasting of their vile crimes. They practically turned the internet useless, keeping us busy fighting on it instead of
Taking to actions to bring those bastards down & stop their illegal crimes against
Humanity.
So in other words, think twice, when you read stuff that infuriates you, it is in-
Tended to do so, why be a easy tool for them. Start united actions, Open forums for
Brainstorming together, humanity can survive this with flying colors if we start
Using our brains. Their next agenda is of course to starve us, threatening food
Rations. It’s about time we teach our kids to grow seeds, FRUIT trees all over,
Feed chickens instead of dogs & cats, community gardens, local cooperation.
That way our kids will not be so desperate to have to enroll into illegal wars
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Posted by: JohnTodd on May 10, 2008 6:15 PM
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Granted, it wasn't the best food, but it was adequate and it all tastes great when you are extremely hungry from all the stress and exercise.
I never saw any "Pass and review" at all, in fact, I heard several RDCs lambasting recruits for not finishing their meals. Couldn't FORCE them to eat, but could still yell abut it.
As for FORCING all soldiers to be meet-eaters, I disagree. I've been in 2 branches of the military (USN and now USA!) and have noticed that salad bars and fruit bars and also entrees and side dishes loaded with vegetables from raw to cooked are always available. I am a meat eater, but I could do just fine on everything else if no meat was available in the Dining Facility.
Keep in mind that soldiers train all the time: exercise, sweating in the field, etc. They will eat more because their bodies demand more calories. That's why the pound cake has 2000 calories in the MRE.
Just my .02
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