Home
Archive
Columnists
Video
Blogs
Discuss
About
Search
Donate
Advertise
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
Register to Vote: Rock the Vote, powered by Working Assets Wireless
Advertisement
  • AlterNetYour turn

Support AlterNet
Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a tax-deductible donation.


Feedback
Tell us how we're doing.

The Violent Language of Right-Wing Pundits Poisons Our Democracy

By Jeffrey Feldman, Ig Publishing. Posted May 6, 2008.


On TV and the radio, conservative pundits infuse violence into their arguments, destroying our precious culture of civil debate.

Share and save this post:
Digg iconDelicious iconReddit iconFark iconYahoo! iconNewsvine! iconFacebook iconNewsTrust icon

More stories by Jeffrey Feldman

Get AlterNet in
your mailbox!

 
Advertisement

The following is an excerpt from Jeffrey Feldmann's new book Outright Barbarous: How the Violent Language of the Right Poisons American Democracy (Ig Publishing, 2008).

The emergence of a cohort of right-wing pundits who use violent logic, language and arguments in national political debate did not gradually take shape over a long stretch of time, but rose up at a starling speed in the lead-up to the national elections of 2004 and 2006. As the horrific extent of the Iraqi military occupation waxed and George W. Bush's popularity waned, a hitherto sarcastic right-wing punditry seemed all at once to step into a new rhetorical frame. Suddenly, with Bush's re-election in doubt, casualties spiraling out of control, and revelations of U.S. military human rights abuses popping up all over, right-wing pundits shifted their tone from critique to conspiracy. The shift is summed up best by the opening line in Dinesh D'Souza's book The Enemy at Home: "The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11."

As if that is not enough, D'Souza's book also accuses liberals of engaging in civil war with the rest of America and of harboring a violent dream that complements the terrorist goals of Osama Bin Laden, yearns for the destruction of U.S. military forces in Iraq and seeks the downfall of the United States. D'Souza's book filled mainstream bookstores, giving scholarly legitimacy to violent accusations of high treason against vast segments of the American population.

Violent language as a manner of speech amongst right-wing pundits reached a crescendo in the days leading up to the 2006 midterm elections. I remember flipping through TV channels one day, attempting to avoid pundits' violent rhetoric. But such language was everywhere. Anne Coulter joked about "nuking" Iran, Bill O'Reilly talked about the "war on Christmas," Pat Buchanan and Lou Dobbs spoke of the "invasion" and "conquest" of America by immigrants. I even came across a discussion of the "war against the war," in which an anti-war protest was discussed as if it was a war. Every political topic seemed clouded over by a right-wing pundit using violence language.

In the first few months after the 2006 mid-term elections, I penned several blog posts questioning whether the rise of violent rhetoric on the right might be a dangerous development that could possibly transform, through a sudden incident, into actual physical violence. Turning to the work of Hannah Arendt, in particular her masterful study of politics and violence, On Violence, I began to realize that the last significant violent turn in American political ideology and practice involved both the political right and the left. The late 1960s was a time, Arendt explained, where people increasingly believed that violence could actually produce controlled political outcomes. The result was an era in U.S. politics where a broad range of different political organizations and movements each took up violence, a product of the widespread acceptance of Mao Tse-tung's aphorism "Political power grows at the barrel of a gun." Arendt watched this moment lead to assassinations and mass chaos in urban centers, and thus argued that violence was problematic because it led to outcomes in politics that could not be controlled. Violence, she explained, drawing on a famous quote from Karl Marx, may be the birth pang of a new political body, but we would never say that labor pains were the cause of a birth. The same is true with violence, which occasionally happens at times of great political change but is not the cause of such change.

Arendt's thoughts on violence helped me to clarify several aspects of the trend in right-wing violent language that I was tracking in the media. First, I realized that the use of violent language was not accidental, but was the product of a shift in the political philosophy on which the right-wing punditry built their ideas. The shift was from a rhetoric of parody and burlesque to one of violence and accusation. Second, Arendt helped me to clarify exactly what role "violence" was playing in the worldview of the right-wing pundits. Most right-wing pundits see the power of the state as residing ultimately in the monopoly over violence, an idea that comes from the writings of German philosopher Max Weber. This, however, is not the political philosophy that guided the framers of the U.S. Constitution. In other words, violent rhetoric is not just a question of linguistic style, but a sign that a political philosophy in conflict with American deliberative democracy has captured the imagination of many right-wing pundits. Many factors have led to the emergence of violence among right-wing pundits, but the events of 9/11 seem central. In the wake of the attacks, right-wing pundits grew ever more convinced that the continued survival of United States depended on its willingness to use violence. The more violent language filled the airwaves of America's broadcast media, the more this new and disturbing logic of violence and power seemed to saturate public thinking. Lastly, Arendt's writing helped me to see that the American form of deliberative democratic politics itself was a form of government crafted as a replacement for earlier forms of rule by violence. In a discussion of American politics, the opposite of violence has never been nonviolence, but participation -- specifically, participation in deliberative democracy. The quintessential American town hall meetings that Jefferson imagined happening amongst small, mostly agricultural communities in rural colonial America were not just a system for accomplishing the needs of the people but a bulwark against tyrannical rule that resulted from a royal monopoly on all forms of power.


Digg!

See more stories tagged with: outright barbarism, jeffrey feldman

Jeffrey Feldman is editor-in-chief of Frameshop and author of Outright Barbarous: How the Violent Language of the Right Poisons American Democracy (Ig Publishing, 2008).

Liked this story? Get top stories in your inbox each week from AlterNet! Sign up now »


Advertisement

 

Comments Turn comments off sitewide Give us feedback »
Tools: [Post a new comment] [Login] [Signup] View:
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on May 6, 2008 12:41 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The left should burn down the White House, drag president Bush to the nearest tree and hang him.

Or is that too...VIOLENT?


Direct Democracy

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Terrorist Posted by: Blink
» RE: definition request Posted by: DaBear
» RE: definition request Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: definition request Posted by: joe2171
» RE: definition request Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: definition request Posted by: joe2171
» RE: definition request Posted by: Lauren
» Yes it is too violent. Posted by: Artkansas
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: EinMD
» Everything you say... Posted by: bobtr900
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: joe2171
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: joe2171
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: joe2171
Talking Trash About Ward Churchill
Posted by: dbarber on May 6, 2008 12:48 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Ward Churchill, in his provocative essay, "Some People Push Back," never once said the 9/11 attacks were justified. His piece was all about what happens when groups other than the U.S. Government apply the same logic to their actions that the U.S. does, the same justifications, the same refusal to differentiate between civilian and military targets, the same attitudes towards "collateral damage."

This certainly made some people uncomfortable, and the continued mischaracterization of what he said unfaily lumped him in with that all-purpose boogey-man, the Muslim extremist yelling, "Death to America."

A brief statement from the man himself:

"I am not a "defender" of the September 11 attacks, but simply pointing out that if U.S. foreign policy results in massive death and destruction abroad, we cannot feign innocence when some of that destruction is returned. I have never said that people "should" engage in armed attacks on the United States, but that such attacks are a natural and unavoidable consequence of unlawful U.S. policy. As Martin Luther King, quoting Robert F. Kennedy, said, "Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable."

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Left poisoning our schools Posted by: carbon-based
» Right on, EinMD! Posted by: Coleman
» RE: ight on, EinMD! Posted by: Libsrule
» RE: ight on, EinMD! Posted by: EinMD
» RE: ight on, EinMD! Posted by: Aimleft
» RE: IGHT poisoning our schools Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Left poisoning our schools Posted by: peacefullaim
We Can Always Boycott the Sponsors
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 6, 2008 1:41 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm pretty much a First Amendment absolutist, so I try to tolerate these people even though they make my blood pressure rise. However, I don't intend to subsidize them and have on occasion written to sponsors stating my intention to boycott their products. Of course there are plenty of people who love this stuff, and the nastier, more bigoted and ignorant it is, the more they want of it. Hillary Clinton is even getting in on the act nowadays.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» But we don't Posted by: ssegallmd
» "drawing blood" Posted by: foreverhope
Backlash! Shut The Rabid Rovien Talking Heads Down.
Posted by: williameon on May 6, 2008 2:31 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rabid Rovien Talking Heads finally bite Reptilians in the A-S!
Backlash!
Shut these pathetic old broken down propagandists OFF!
Shut The Clowns Down.
Who watches this crap?
X the FAUX Wrong NEWS off the DIAL!
Edit them- out!

We’ve got important work to do!

I just found The Sc/hrubs magic wand
Everything looks Rosy now.
Looking through his Boob colored Glasses!
The jobs are back.
The recession has ended.
The National Debt is zero.

The genetic modification Genie is back in the bottle.
Pandora’s Box is closed.
We left Iraq.
Pollution Laws are back in affect.
All privatization is reversed.
Outsourcing is stopped.
The Global warming treaties are signed.
The Green Economy is Booming.
Health care, Jobs and a College Education is provided, to all.
All of the Shrub’s horrible Draconian legislation is rescinded
The Pathetic (Patriot/ScapeGoat?) Act is shredded.
The Militia is Home.
Half of all the foreign military bases are closing.
The Army Forces were put into a defensive stance.
The CIA is disbanded.
The FBI, AT F, and NSA funding is cut by 2/3.
Dark Water is ordered to stand down.
Halliburton and Carlyle’s books are being audited.
The Shrub and his Cronies were brought to trail for Crimes against humanity.
The Government was purged of all corporate lobbyists and special interests.
The Federal Reserve is gone.
All money stolen by The Oil, Banking, Media and Arms Conglomerates is being taken back plus interest.
All Corporate Loop holes were closed and Corporate Welfare has ended.
Taxes on the Top 2% were increased.
All Propagandists were prosecuted and purged from the Media.
The Air waves were taken back and belong to the people.
All media laws are being revised to reflect the will of the people:
One outlet in one market.
All Crooked Corpirate Charters are being revoked and all their franchise dissolved.
All records of the Bush administration were opened to the public for investigation.
All criminal activity found within the Bush administration is being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
We apologize personally to all the people we have harmed and to the world as a whole.
Corporations are no longer considered People.
Citizen’s human rights are strengthened and reaffirmed using common language and positive terms.
The positive Ideals and Goals of the Society were reevaluated, brought up to date, protected and restated:
In modern terms.
The system purged, updated and upgraded.
The
First
100
DAYS!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The Democracy Is Dead
Posted by: ssegallmd on May 6, 2008 3:53 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
and in large part due to tolerance of this kind of speech. I would be all for free speech if we could survive it. But clearly we did not. Rescinding the Fairness Doctrine was just a little too much free speech for America. It unleashed the ugliness that was lying latent waiting for its chance to manipulate the populace and dismantle the republic.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Quannah
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Quannah
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Quannah
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Quannah
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: Lauren
» Absolutely Posted by: westomoon
» RE: Absolutely Posted by: Lauren
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: joe2171
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: ssegallmd
» RE: The Democracy Is Dead Posted by: joe2171
"Thou Protest too Much " Adage Reigns True
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 6, 2008 4:21 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is movtivated by placing blame on someone (thing ) else to avoid the light being shown on them and their own deeds.
Only an idiot would believe that the attacks of 9/11 were a result of a hatred of our 'liberal' ways- If so why not attack SanFrancisco. Or that it was an attack against our Freedoms, Then Why Not the Statue of Liberty. Or an attack on our 'conspicuous consumption'- why not the Mall of American?
9/11 was caused by The years of abuse & activities of the MIC-towers ($$), Pentagon (Military) and the WH (foreign policy).
What truely concerns me is that the Inc/gov't conspirators have gotten away with this ridiculous Propaganda.And are still able to malign such great Americans as Rev Wright with this obviously flawed Logic. It Was THEIR chickens who had come 'home ' to roost. The multinational Incs hide on our Soil and behind Our Flag and PEOPLE while committing crimes against Humanity around the World for Decades!
We demanded they get out of the ME in the '70's- first Oil Crisis (energy black mail by oppressive 'Royals'who use US as scapegaots), First large scale Hostage crisis and numerous Highjackings. Only people who have been drugged or Brain Dead have not realized the BS of this Admin, Congress'and th eCorp Media's "TRUTH SPEAK". I was Shocked on 9/11- but Not Surprised nor EVER Deceived!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: It's her blog - her right Posted by: UnEasyOne
Insightful Commentary
Posted by: Urstrly on May 6, 2008 4:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I found this piece really helpful in understanding how we got to the point that the right gratuitously throws around these violent terms then reacts in simulated outrage when the left so much as mentions that Americans are not innocent lambs in this world.

It's no accident that the Clinton campaign has encouraged their candidate's bellicose side. She knows exactly to whom she's playing when she talks tough. Having someone in office who needs to prove her willingness to use force at a time when the current occupant has so degraded our language and our culture around the use of torture and wanton killing is hazardous to our democracy.

The internet has been a savior for the left in that it connects people who are ignored by the mainstream media. That's why we must fight to keep it neutral, and if (I no longer say when) the Democrats win the next election, they should set about restoring the FCC to its former role of keeping radio and television politically neutral. I don't think the news shows should be censored (as some of them are today), but we have only so many airwaves, and the Republicans have sold them off to the highest bidders. The very least we should offer candidates is equal time, without charge.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Insightful Commentary Posted by: Lauren
New Language for Power
Posted by: wrmystery on May 6, 2008 4:44 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Adam Curtis made an excellent BBC documentary called The Trap that goes over the flawed theories of modern state power.

More about it here

View it here

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Major causes of the syndrome?
Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming on May 6, 2008 5:20 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Cowboy mentality and testosterone poisoning (regardless of gender)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Aint this the TRUTH Posted by: The Big Raven
Advocacy for Censorship
Posted by: DrGeneNelson on May 6, 2008 5:20 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This article seems to have been inspired by the propaganda ministry. The technique includes labeling perspectives that the writer disagrees with as "hate speech." There is a pseudo-liberal organization headed by Morris Dees that makes this a routine practice. The only thing is that they do it to advocate for the unlimited importation of labor to undercut wages and working conditions of U.S. citizens.

As a person whose paternal grandfather was killed by a drunk driver, I give little credence to Jeffrey Feldman's criticism of how a story about illegal alien drunk driving was reported.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Advocacy for Censorship Posted by: Quannah
Both Left and Right are Culpable; But the Left has Captured the Right
Posted by: Elurby on May 6, 2008 5:27 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
#######
#######


Blame both Left and Right for
inciting "violent" language,
but the Left is in control of
this GLOBAL CATASTROPHE, as it
has captured the Right and
distorted capitalists' markets
--TO BE FAIR. Read and learn:

You'll not get any closer to
the truth about what's afoot
with Bush's GLOBALIZATION, and
this looming food crisis, than
my below thoughts and links
((copy and send to friends
and colleagues; and note
that I REPEAT MY PREMISE
OVER AND OVER AGAIN, TO DRIVE
HOME THE POINT)):

The Third-Way push of
socialism/capitalism to
equalize the world's
economies has caused
this looming food
crisis, NOT CAPITALISM.

Socialist/communist leftists
have captured capitalism
and enslaved it to EQUAL/
"FAIR" outcomes.

Of course, you'll have to
think more deeply to find
the truth.

Read and learn the truth:

What we are facing in 2008
is a Third-Way (socialist/
communist/capitalist)
conspiracy to equalize the
world's economies, as preface
to installing one-world
government; a plan hatched
during the 1940s GATT
formulations, which were
socialist/communist, in
effect.

Keep in mind that there is
no PEAK OIL crisis, only a
decades-long, purposeful
cap on searching and drilling
and refining for oil, in order
to put the world in crisis-mode.

Using food to produce fuel
is part of the conspiracy to
generate food riots, in order
to destabilize governments;
and this so-called "war on
terror" is also part of the
secret plan, although its
primary beneficially is Israel
in the exchange of blood
and treasury for oil--as
payoff for protecting Israel
from an ever-threatening,
encircling Islamic Arabism.

The secret plan?: to create
one-world government under
GLOBAL ECONOMIC SOCIALISM.

This is a conspiracy-driven
dismantlement of the West's
financial underpinnings,
for a certain purpose: TO
EQUALIZE GLOBAL ECONOMIES,
for future installation of
one-world government.

I've provided all the details
in my essay, "Planned
Destruction of America"
(linked below), which is my
report on Lt. Col. Archibald
Roberts' 1968 booklet: "The
Anatomy of a Revolution".

http://planneddestructionofamerica.blogspot.com/

Study my essay, then write as
if we're all being led down
a path to hell on Earth by
secretive, elite movers and
shakers on the Left and Right
(path to hell aka "Third-Way
Global Economic Socialism").
Read and learn and teach:

The EU and the coming North
America Union are products of
the 1940s GATT formulations,
and very few analysts are
aware of it ((GATT, NAFTA,
and CAFTA are socialistic
attempts at equalizing global
economies, in order to in-
stall one-world government
under THIRD-WAY Global
Economic Socialism)).

The NAFTA Debacle (1995)
http://naftadebacle1.blogspot.com/


#######
#######

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» O_o Posted by: kelethian
» Wow. Posted by: Fencerider
Ignore them
Posted by: robchapman on May 6, 2008 5:50 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Right Wing pudits thrive on attention and controversy, if publications such as this analyze and condemn them- THEY WIN!

The most effective way to combat them is to treat them like the inconsequential boors they are and ignore them.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» terrified, oh, i am Posted by: e rice
» RE: Ignore them Posted by: joe2171
Ho-hum
Posted by: BST on May 6, 2008 6:11 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
These commentators are not fomenting change; they are countenancing and giving voice to existing views. So when you castigate them you are also castigating much of the population.

Liberals, and I am one, could do well to get a little more testy, reckless and droll in discussions. Frankly, liberal delivery is so tedious, timorous and politically correct that it invites sleep, and SNL skits.

Hillary Clinton is my candidate. One reason is her willingness to mix it up, to be catty and feisty and sharp-edged. She's gotten a heap of abuse for it, but I kind of like her style.

Since when did it become de rigeuer to be so damn Caspar Milque-toast in our public debates, even our livingroom discussions? I think it's a sham.

Just watch a couple of little kids argue without intercession and you'll be reminded of our primal need to squabble and rant.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Ho-hum Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Ho-hum Posted by: EinMD
» Nice one! Posted by: lefty010
» RE: Ho-hum Posted by: motamanx
This is really painful
Posted by: 060730 on May 6, 2008 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
in that on this website I have seen more and more of this same hate language pass for intelligent debate both in the articles and in the discussion/rebuttal. I think it's very difficult for people to see their own crimes with the same eyes as they see others' -- which makes everyone numb to pain and suffering unless it suits their arguments. What makes the progressive different if they fall into tailing the ugliest expression of narrow, dismissive rhetoric? There has to be a qualitative difference between the good guys and the bad guys, don't you think? Lack of opportunity to be the violent oppressor doesn't imply virtue -- and the rhetoric here is not promising anything I would count on any more than the brazen, arrogant ugliness I hear from the folks in power already.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Whatever. Posted by: EinMD
Tough talk is not just cheap
Posted by: taxidriver on May 6, 2008 6:31 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I remember just after 9-11, Bush used "folks" to describe the al-Qaeda terrorists. Well, somebody, maybe Dick Cheney, got him to start talking like an "Old West" sheriff on steroids. Now it's Hillary who's talkin' tough about "obliterating" Iran and using "massive retaliation" if Iran ever develops a nuke and uses it against Israel. As awful as that scenario is, should an entire country and people be "obliterated" for the sins of its leaders?

Our country is losing all sense of proportionality. Are we, in some sense, addicted to violence? Video games, TV, wars, prisons, and now ceaseless right-wing rhetoric of "warfare," with the added irony that most of these right-wing pundits wouldn't know a rifle butt from its muzzle.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» No way.... Posted by: Fencerider
The Deceived Saved By TRUTH
Posted by: bc430 on May 6, 2008 6:57 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
could be the title of the next chapter of American history.

We were programed to feel sorry for children who had no viable relationship with a supernatural, overweight, LSD inspired, nocturnal White guy from the North Pole, and an equally endowed Bunny Rabbit whose biological wiring enables it to squat, grunt and squirt out millions of pastel colored chicken eggs for all of the nice, clean, christian, american children fortunate enough to have a personal relationship with their Lord and Savior, Santa Claus. Then they graduate to booze, weed, ecstasy, date rape, meth, coke, smack, crack and war in the name of Jesus.

The same spirit that energized Cambodia's Killing Fields has operated out of Washington DC. and NYC for years. Nixon's prolonged stay in Vietnam seeded the clouds and caused the blood to rain down and soak deep into the fertile soil of the Killing fields, by giving Mr. Pot a reason to rally his homies. McCain????

Ward Churchill's sin is that of thinkers and fearless truth tellers who came before him, waking up the deceived brainwashed. Abraham or Ibrahim, Moses, Jesus, Martin Luther, Ghandi, Patrice Lamumba, Malcolm X., Martin Luther King Jr., Jesse Owens, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, the dad of Tennis playing Williams sisters, my grandmother. Truth bearers force CHANGE.

There is not a person iiving or unborn who will ever be able to provide scientific proof that there is one measurable bit of difference between what the KKK believes and what agents of the U.S. Government have actualized. Examine the Republican 'conservative' and right leaning CLINTON adminstration's effect upon planet earth for the last____ adminstrations to present. Hillary???????????

The FOX News and other deceived Santa Claus and Easter Bunny worshiping, true patriotic, christian americans' task was to deceive America and take it captive.

Were it not for servant leaders commited to the essence of truth the world would be doomed to believe rediculous B*** S*** forever.

Thank you Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

Toward a brighter tomorrow,

A former deceived U.S. Army Combat Veteran for sanity and world piece.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Hillary is guilty, too
Posted by: HughScott on May 6, 2008 7:09 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As an example of violent rhetoric. the author mentioned Anne Coulter joking about "nuking" Iran.

When Hillary Clinton said she would "obliterate" Iran (her words) if it attacked Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia or Israel, killing millions of innocent human beings, Mrs. Sniper Fire WASN'T joking!

Reason enough to support Barack.

-----------------------------------------------

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com -- the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Hillary is guilty, too Posted by: joe2171
STOP FUNDING THIS CRAP
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 6, 2008 7:12 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
All of these people are overpaid. Don't watch it. ANNA

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: STOP FUNDING THIS CRAP Posted by: e rice
"Civil Debate"
Posted by: CatDad on May 6, 2008 7:17 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
destroying our precious culture of civil debate.
-----------------------
This is the whole point of the Right's media campaign....They can't win based upon the facts...The last thing they want is polite, factual policy debate like one might find on the PBS News Hour.....They want Left v. Right shouting matches with ideological talking heads, which we see on cable infotainment networks like MSNBC. They especially do not want investigative journalism...which is a near extinct breed of journalism in America...

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: "Civil Debate" Posted by: bozhidar
Why does it work so well for the right?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 6, 2008 7:24 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Understand that this is basic psychological manipulation, of the kind that is taught in U.S. universities every day, mostly within the halls of graduate schools of journalism aka "communication" - the propaganda training schools. USC has a very well-regarded one, for example.

The basic strategy taught to corporate PR hamsters and Pentagon spin doctors is to play on a small number of "motivational triggers", which could be grouped as:

a) vulnerability
b) injustice
c) distrust
e) superiority
f) helplessness

you can reverse all these, too:

a) invulnerability
b) justice
c) trust
d) inferiority
e) being capable

These are the psychological notions that are deliberately used by trained media types in order to whip up fear, hate, respect and other emotions in their listening audience. The "enemy" is not to be trusted, is injust, is culturally and morally inferior, and we might be vulnerable and helpless unless we attack the enemy first - and so on.

If you start watching speeches with an eye to looking for the emotional/psychological triggers, you'll start seeing them. There is usually a slight pause for emphasis before the "key phrase" is uttered, whatever it is - a few examples include:

"We have a moral obligation to . . ."

"Our national security requires that . . ."

"Is it wise to trust in the words of . . ."

The best response is not earnest, hand-wringing, honest discussion - no, the best response to this kind of tripe is ridicule - yes, harsh, no-holds-barred ridicule, of the crude and crass variety.

You might want to follow that up with some practical and rational advice, but first it is necessary to point out that the Emperor is butt naked, and yet no one is noticing this obvious fact. The kid didn't lecture the crowd on their poor perceptions, did he? He just pointed his finger and laughed.

Sometimes, that's all it takes, and that's why the Nazis would shoot anyone who laughed at the wild-eyed sweaty man who pounded the podium and screamed a lot about the noble duty of the Aryan Race to repopulate the world and wipe out the genetic inferiors...

What, is that a Godwin's Law violation? Well, the Stalinist comparison works just as well, and I'm unaware of any Internet Law prohibiting the use of Stalin as a historical example. . . and yes, Stalin would also have hecklers shot or sent to the Siberian gulags - no sense of humor, that guy.

This is why the so-called "Iraq War" movies mostly tanked - they were liberal exercises in hand-wringing. Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon - those movies portrayed war as it really is - hellish, bloody, and insane - and the longer it lasts, the worse it gets. People like the truth, and people don't like being lectured and manipulated.

The only film about the Iraq invasion and occupation and torture and oppression that really did well was the Bourne Ultimatum - yes, it was about that, oblique-wise. Why do you think Bill O'Reilly felt it necessary to attack the movie?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Why does it work so well for the right? Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com
Rightwing rhetoric is ALL about greed
Posted by: HughScott on May 6, 2008 8:30 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc., are politically outrageous because it makes them money. In terms of social conscience, they are part of the stretched limousine, "Let 'em eat cake" crowd. They care about their bank accounts, not the American people.

D'Souza is just as greedy. Consider the following extract about his wealth, taken from the April 2005 issue of The San Diego Reader:

"Since Dartmouth, the conservative fray has been quite remunerative for D'Souza. Six years ago, he and his wife bought their home in Fairbanks Ranch (California). The nearly 8000-square-foot house has six bedrooms, seven and a half baths, and a four-car garage, where they keep their maroon 1992 Jaguar XJS. A circular drive fronts the French country stone house. The cathedral-like front room, with its full-length mirrors and tapestries, has an 18th-century French decor of (veneered) golden maple burl furniture. The slick floors echo like a museum as one walks through. In his office, there's wall-to-wall leopard-print carpet; floor-to-ceiling bookcases are stocked with titles in history, politics, and philosophy. The view out back features a bright blue pool and the arboretum-like landscape."

It's interestng that the people D'Souza attacks -- Democrats -- are, on average, blue-collar, low-income wage earners in our society.

Just how much money does D'Souza and his greedy rightwing ilk need, anyway? More than they can spend, obviously.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» yeah, Joe Lunchpail Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: yeah, Joe Lunchpail Posted by: Quannah
» RE: yeah, Joe Lunchpail Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: yeah, Joe Lunchpail Posted by: Quannah
» Been wondering about pfiefer999 myself. Posted by: oceanwaves99999
Total control is what he wants
Posted by: reason on May 6, 2008 8:41 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Look at how Fox cable news has attacked Obama and gave Hillary the breaks. They want to control who gets to run for the Democrats.

Murdock's Fox is just an advertising arm for the right wing media.

People need to be aware of this, but most aren't.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

"...pundits infuse violence into their arguments, destroying our precious culture of civil debate."
Posted by: harryf200 on May 6, 2008 8:59 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He must have been reading some of the prejudiced, intolerant, and violent language from some fascist-like "contributors" to this blog ... You know who you are! Anti-democrats.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

The US made...
Posted by: maxfactor on May 6, 2008 9:08 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...the world their colosseum.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

violent speech eliminationism and urges when resisting RWA tyranny
Posted by: DaBear on May 6, 2008 9:23 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm not sure how to think about all this. The library in our town is getting a copy but there's a waiting list (all 50 liberals in this RWA town got in line already).

There's a conundrum implicit in the notion of equating violence of a tyrannical regime with violence among the resistance to such a regime. When one is attacked, resistance is healthy and to be expected. Matching ferocity for ferocity is primal and appropriate dependent on the circumstances.

The down side of matching ferocity in politics and cultural warfare is that the antidote to eliminationism is relationship, which gets dismantled when being ferocious (and frankly I have NO desire to have a relationship with a republikaaner asshole). It's like watching chimps display and do their thing in conflict vs. a bunch of bonobos. Which is better? I'm inclined with my brain to go with the bonobo but my guts wanna go all chimp on an attacker's ass.

"being nice" or "being civil" to an oppressor is highly overrated, even dangerous, when one is being deprived of happiness and liberty as well as livelihood. There's a place for anger, and a place for temporary violent resistance when non-violent resistance ceases to be successful. And that temporary violent resistance is NOT the same as the violence of an oppressor... the belief that somehow they are is a reflection of gross emotional illiteracy.

Temporary is the key to resistance that has violent components. And it comes with some serious consequences. Some sort of cultural Aikido seems warranted, but what does that look like? How does a liberal or progressive absorb and control (through non-resistant redirection and circular movement that either exhausts or disables the attack) the violent attacks and eliminationism by RWA's in the media, in economics, in vocations, in politics, in cultural everyday milieu? The goal always is to leave the attacker intact and not dead, though this can happen, usually through the fault of the attacker's misuse of force, but injuries do and can still happen, and Aikido techniques can be considered "violent" by most liberal definitions even though they are physically not. But how does this translate to politics, culture, values, beliefs, economics?

NO ONE is talking about that on the Left today. NO ONE is talking about how to do this differently, other than to offer platitudes and unsustainable or unrealistic "high mind" notions of non-violence and civility, usually from those that will never face any consequences to their person or material situation anyway. Mere prohibitions against violence, no matter how well-intended, without having an alternative rubric will work. And, frankly the owning and middling class cultural mores and thinkage on non-violence in the Left is intellectually and emotionally problematic for working class and poor people that we cannot ignore (because we working-poor actually have to physically, economically and emotionally live with the consequences of people's actions, especially the uppers, all the time whilst the uppers never have to worry about it).

So while the subject of the book seems intriguing, my own search continues for some sort of sense in a whole lot of senselessness.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Hm. Is Obama "no one"? Posted by: westomoon
» RE: Obama Posted by: Dboy
» RE: Obama Posted by: EinMD
» RE: Obama Posted by: Dboy
» RE: Obama Posted by: Lauren
Alternet's subheading reflects a deep flaw
Posted by: DaBear on May 6, 2008 9:48 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
On TV and the radio, conservative pundits infuse violence into their arguments, destroying our precious culture of civil debate.

The subheading is misleading because the excerpt seems to take a much more nuanced view than this overly simplistic statement. But it's intriguing to note that the assertion that there is a "precious culture of civil debate" (something the author never claims) by Alternet's editors reveals their class-beliefs.

If one reads Zinn, Vidal, Johnson, Chomsky, one cannot possibly believe there has ever been a culture of civil debate, except amongst the owning classes and their middling imitators and aspirants. I took four semesters of debate and observed debate competitions at the university level. Being working class, I'm privy to the mundane daily sparring and "debate" amongst my own class that's in stark contrast to the university "civil debate" tom foolery.

However, both styles of "debate" achieve the same result: distraction from commitments to emotional literacy, the deflection of ownership of one's feelings and experience, and avoidance of the ability or civil responsibility to deeply listen and hear the opponent Other. In working class argument, the objective is to crush your opponent into humiliated silence, whatever-the-hell that means. In civil/formal debate the objective is to somehow perversely persuade an