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Is There Any Way to Stop Wal-Mart & Co. from Sweatshop Profiteering?

By T. A. Frank, Washington Monthly. Posted April 29, 2008.


Presidential candidates are calling for tougher labor standards in trade agreements. But it's doubtful they could be enforced.

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I remember one particularly bad factory in China. It produced outdoor tables, parasols, and gazebos, and the place was a mess. Work floors were so crowded with production materials that I could barely make my way from one end to the other. In one area, where metals were being chemically treated, workers squatted at the edge of steaming pools as if contemplating a sudden, final swim. The dormitories were filthy: the hallways were strewn with garbage—orange peels, tea leaves—and the only way for anyone to bathe was to fill a bucket with cold water. In a country where workers normally suppress their complaints for fear of getting fired, employees at this factory couldn't resist telling us the truth. "We work so hard for so little pay," said one middle-aged woman with undisguised anger. We could only guess how hard—the place kept no time cards. Painted in large characters on the factory walls was a slogan: "If you don't work hard today, look hard for work tomorrow." Inspirational, in a way.


I was there because, six years ago, I had a job at a Los Angeles firm that specialized in the field of "compliance consulting," or "corporate social responsibility monitoring." It's a service that emerged in the mid-1990s after the press started to report on bad factories around the world and companies grew concerned about protecting their reputations. With an increase of protectionist sentiment in the United States, companies that relied on cheap labor abroad were feeling vulnerable to negative publicity. They still are.



Today, labor standards are once again in the news. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have criticized trade deals such as NAFTA as unfair to American workers, and the new thinking is that trade agreements should include strict labor standards. Obama has cited a recent free trade agreement with Peru as an example of how to go forward. I hope he's right, but let's remember that NAFTA was also hailed, in its day, for including labor protections. Our solutions on paper have proved hard to enforce. Peru attempts to remedy some of the problems of NAFTA, but we're still advancing slowly in the dark.

In the meantime, as governments contemplate such matters on a theoretical level, what's happening on the ground is mostly in the hands of the private sector. Companies police themselves, often using hired outside help. That was the specialty of my company. Visit the Web site of almost any large American retailer or apparel manufacturer and you're likely to see a section devoted to "ethical sourcing" or "our compliance program." (Those are terms for making sure that your suppliers aren't using factories that will land you on the front page of the New York Times.) Read on and you'll often see that the company boasts of having a code of conduct that its suppliers must follow—a code of labor standards by which the factories in question will be regularly measured and monitored. Are they to be believed? Well, yes and no. Private monitoring, if done properly, can do a lot of good. But it's a tricky thing. A simplified story of Nike may be the best way to introduce the origins of the type of work I was in. In the 1960s, Nike (before it was named Nike) based its business on the premise that the company would not manufacture shoes—it would only design and market them. The physical goods would be produced by independent contractors in countries such as Japan or Taiwan, where labor was, at the time, cheap. In short, Nike would be offices, not factories. The idea was innovative and hugely profitable, and countless companies producing everything from sweaters to toys to exercise equipment have since adopted it. It is now standard.

The problem that arose for Nike and many other companies, however, was that the media, starting in the 1990s, began to run stories on terrible labor conditions in factories in Asia. When consumers started to get angry, Nike and many other companies were nonplussed. We're just buying these shoes, they said—it's not our business how Mr. X runs his factory. And they had a point. If, for example, I learned that my dry cleaner was paying his employees less than minimum wage, I might feel bad about it, but I doubt I'd spend hours vetting alternative dry cleaners for labor compliance. I've got too much else to worry about in life, including my shirts. But such musings hardly make for a great press release, and Nike's case included nasty allegations about child labor—twelve-year-old Americans playing with soccer balls sewn by twelve-year-old Pakistanis, that sort of thing. The company's stock value sank.

In this same period, the U.S. Department of Labor, led by Robert Reich, began cracking down on sweatshops within the United States and publicizing the names of firms who were their customers. Because of this, companies such as mine began to offer their services as independent, for-profit monitors of factory labor conditions. We would act as early-warning systems against shady suppliers who mistreated their workers. Based on the reports we provided, our clients could choose either to sever their relations with a given supplier or to pressure them to improve. Business at my old company is still going strong.


In Los Angeles, where small garment shops of, say, thirty employees were the main focus, we usually worked in pairs and did three inspections a day. Outside the country, where the factories were often quite large (several thousand employees) and made anything from toys to gym equipment, we worked alone or in pairs and did one or two a day. The procedures were similar, but the inspections were more thorough abroad. While one of us might tour the work floors to note all the health and safety violations (the gazebo factory, for instance, had no secondary exits, no guarding on machines, no first aid supplies, no eye protection—the list kept going), the other might review permits, employee files, and payroll records to see what shortcomings were apparent on paper alone.

Then we would begin interviewing employees in private, usually twenty or so, hoping to learn from them what our eyes wouldn't tell us. Did the factory confiscate personal documents, such as identity cards, and use them as ransom? (This was most common in the Gulf States, where foreign laborers from places like Bangladesh could find themselves effectively enslaved. But bosses sometimes confiscated national identification documents in China, too.) Were employees free to enter and leave the compound? How many hours a week did they really work—regardless of what the time cards might say?

Unfortunately, we missed stuff. All inspections do. And sometimes it was embarrassing. At one follow-up inspection of a factory in Bangkok at which I'd noted some serious but common wage violations, the auditors who followed me found pregnant employees hiding on the roof and Burmese import workers earning criminally low wages. Whoops. On the other hand, sometimes I was the one who uncovered what others had missed. A lot of it had to do with luck. Was the right document visible on the work floor? Did we choose the right employees for interviews—the ones who were willing to confide in outsiders? If we were working through a translator, was his manner of speaking to people soothing?



The major challenge of inspections was simply staying ahead of the factories we monitored. False time cards and payroll records, whole days spent coaching employees on how to lie during interviews, and even renaming certain factory buildings in order to create a smaller Potemkin village—all of these were techniques used by contractors to try to fool us. We were able to detect some of them. A collection of crisp time cards that showed every employee arriving within seconds of the next was easy to spot as having been punched by a single worker standing alone at the time clock. An employee whose recollection of hours worked differed markedly from her time sheet was another indication of shady bookkeeping. But others were hard to defeat. Employee coaching deserves special attention for its crude effectiveness. The following composite dialogue, in which every answer is a lie, is typical of the sort of thing we endured:

Me: How many days a week do you work?

Employee: Five.

Me: Any overtime?

Employee: Almost never. We get time and a half in pay for overtime.

Me: How much do you make per hour?

Employee: I don't know.

Me: How much did you get for your most recent pay period?

Employee: I can't remember.

Me: Rough idea?

Employee: I can't remember.

Me: How do you deal with the fumes from the glue?

Employee: It's no problem. We have masks. [Note: This was often true—harmful cotton masks that concentrated the fumes.]

Me: How much do you get paid for Sunday work?

Employee: We don't work on Sundays.

Me: Do you have any sort of worker representative here?

Employee: ?

Me: Someone who represents the workers and talks to your bosses?

Employee: ?

Me: What sort of accidents happen here—you know, people bumping themselves, or cutting themselves?



Employee: No accidents.

Such exchanges, needless to say, rarely produced killer testimony. Sometimes we could work around uncooperative interviewees, or we could get them to stumble over their own answers. However, just talking to employees was no guarantee of anything, no matter how gifted an interrogator you were.

Because any inspection misses something, there were factories that managed to embarrass everyone. In 2000, BusinessWeek published an expose about a factory in Guangdong, China, the Chun Si Enterprise Handbag Factory, which made bags for Wal-Mart. Titled "Inside a Chinese Sweatshop: 'A Life of Fines and Beating,'" the article described a nightmarish place in which nine hundred workers were locked in a walled compound all day, and security guards "regularly punched and hit workers for talking back to managers or even for walking too fast." The reporting, by Dexter Roberts and Aaron Bernstein, was superb. Unfortunately, that reporting led to the door of my company, which had been among the auditors monitoring the factory for Wal-Mart. While they had found excessive overtime work and insufficient pay, inspectors had missed the captive workers and physical abuse.

To be sure, the Chun Si Enterprise Handbag Factory episode was a debacle. (I have no inside account of the story, since it took place several years before my arrival.) I suspect, however, that the fault lay with Wal-Mart as much as with the inspectors. I say this because there's a broader point here: Monitoring by itself is meaningless. It only works when the company that's commissioning it has a sincere interest in improving the situation. In the case of Chun Si, inspectors visited five times, according to BusinessWeek, and kept finding trouble. Now, anyone in the business knows that when inspections uncover safety violations or wage underpayment more than once or twice—let alone five times—it's a sign that bigger problems are lurking beneath. Companies rarely get bamboozled about this sort of thing unless they want to.

And many prefer to be bamboozled, because it's cheaper. While companies like to boast of having an ethical sourcing program, such programs make it harder to hire the lowest bidder. Because many companies still want to hire the lowest bidder, "ethical sourcing" often becomes a game. The simplest way to play it is by placing an order with a cheap supplier and ending the relationship once the goods have been delivered. In the meantime, inspectors get sent to evaluate the factory—perhaps several times, since they keep finding problems—until the client, seeing no improvement in the labor conditions, severs the bond and moves on to the next low-priced, equally suspect supplier.

For the half-assed company there are also half-assed monitoring firms. These specialize in performing as many brief, understaffed inspections as they can fit in a day in order to maximize their own profits. That gives their clients plausible deniability: problems undiscovered are problems avoided, and any later trouble can be blamed on the compliance monitors. It is a cozy understanding between client, monitoring company, and supplier that manages to benefit everyone but the workers.

While private monitoring can be misused, however, when it's done right it can really produce positive change. I've seen it. When companies make a genuine effort, the results can be impressive: safe factories that pay legal wages. That sounds modest, but it's actually hard to achieve in any country. Just visit a garment shop in Los Angeles.

At my company, I quickly figured out which clients cared. The first test was whether they conducted "pre-sourcing"—inspections of labor conditions before placing an order instead of after. This small step truly separates the top-rung companies from the pack, because to prescreen is to forgo the temptation of hiring the cheapest suppliers. (Those suppliers are the cheapest because they tend to break the rules, so they usually fail the preliminary inspection.) The second test was whether the company had a long-term relationship with its suppliers. Long-term commitments are what motivate both parties to behave: the supplier wants to preserve the relationship, and the customer wants to preserve its reputation. The third test was whether the company requested unannounced inspections as opposed to ones that were arranged in advance. The advantages of this are self-evident. And the final test was whether the company made inspection results public. This was almost never done.

Who, then, were the good actors of the trade? There are a number of them, actually, but here I'll just point out two that often surprise people. The first is Mattel, the same company that was tarnished last summer by a recall of toys that were found to have lead paint on them. Whatever the chemical flaws of their products, Mattel had a reputation among us monitors for earnestness in pressuring its suppliers to improve their labor practices. It also owned and operated a few factories in China—a country with dreadful factories—that were exemplary. These facilities were regularly inspected by independent monitors, and anyone who wants to know what they've found there can visit Mattel's Web site: the reports are public. The second unexpected company is Nike, which long ago took its bad press to heart and remade itself into a role model of how to carry out thoughtful labor monitoring. Nike has become such a leader in the field that its Web site may be the single best resource for those trying to understand the difficult business of international labor standards. Not only does Nike prescreen factories, it also discloses the name and address of every factory it uses and makes public much of its monitoring.

But let's not be confined to praise. You may get the sense that I'm not Wal-Mart's biggest fan. You'd be right. I betray no confidence here, since Wal-Mart wasn't a client of ours while I was at my company. Nevertheless, I still got to visit plenty of its supplier factories. That's because any given factory usually has more than one customer, and during an audit we would always ask the bosses to name their other customers. Wal-Mart was often one of them. And its suppliers were among the worst I saw—dangerous, nasty, and poorly paid even by local (usually Chinese) measures. I noticed that Wal-Mart claimed to require factories to maintain decent labor standards—but why did it seem to think it could find them among the lowest bidders?


Now, I know about good and bad actors mostly because I saw them directly. But ordinary consumers searching on company Web sites—Walmart.com, Nike.com, etc.—can find out almost everything they need to know just sitting at their desks. For instance, just now I learned from Wal-Mart's latest report on sourcing that only 26 percent of its audits are unannounced. By contrast, of the inspections Target conducts, 100 percent are unannounced. That's a revealing difference. And companies that do what Nike does—prescreen, build long-term relationships, disclose producers—make a point of emphasizing that fact, and are relatively transparent. Companies that don't are more guarded. (When in doubt, doubt.)

As for those who feel especially strongly about the issue and kick up a (peaceful) fuss about sweatshops, I think they're doing a valuable thing. Even when they take actions that are sometimes off-base—such as continuing to boycott Nike when its competitors are the bigger problem—the effect is still, overall, good: it scares businesses into taking compliance more seriously. Boycotts, protests, letters to Congress, saber-rattling lawmakers, media exposes—they do have an impact. And just imagine if members of Congress or the executive branch made an effort to praise or shame companies for their records with foreign suppliers and to encourage transparent monitoring in the private sector. I suspect it would do more for international labor standards in months than the most intricate trade agreements could do in years.

I don't pretend that everything monitoring brings about is for the best. An example: Mattel's factories in China are superb, but workers there often earn less than their peers in shadier factories because their employers confine them to shorter workweeks to avoid paying overtime. Another: You may rightly hate the idea of child labor, but firing a fourteen-year-old in Indonesia from a factory job because she is fourteen does nothing but deprive her of income she is understandably desperate to keep. (She'll find worse work elsewhere, most likely, or simply go hungry.) A third: Small village factories may break the rules, but they often operate in a humane and basically sensible way, and I didn't enjoy lecturing their owners about the necessity of American-style time cards and fifteen-minute breaks. But labor standards anywhere have a tendency to create such problems. They're enacted in the hope that the good outweighs the bad.



One final thought: If you're like me, part of you feels that Peru's labor standards are basically Peru's business. It's our job to worry about standards here at home. But that sort of thinking doesn't work well in an era of globalization. We are, like it or not, profoundly affected by the labor standards of our trading partners. If their standards are low, they exert a downward pressure on our own. That's why monitoring and enforcement have such an important role to play. We don't expect developing nations to match us in what their workers earn. (A few dollars a day is a fortune in many nations.) But when a Chinese factory saves money by making its employees breathe hazardous fumes and, by doing so, closes down a U.S. factory that spends money on proper ventilation and masks, that's wrong. It's wrong by any measure. And that's what we can do something about if we try. It's the challenge we face as the walls come down, the dolls, pajamas, and televisions come in, and, increasingly, the future of our workers here is tied to that of workers who are oceans away.

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T.A. Frank is a writer in Los Angeles.

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Hillary and Wal-Mart
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Apr 29, 2008 1:01 AM   
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Not enough people know that Hillary Clinton, alleged friend of the working classes, sat for six years on the Wal-Mart board while it forced workers into low wage, dead-end, benefitless jobs, outsourced to Chinese sweatshops and drove small competitors out of business.

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As long as we are talking about the past,
Posted by: bitsfick on Apr 29, 2008 4:01 AM   
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NAFTA which was passed during the Clinton years, goes all the way back to Ronnie Raygun, and then to his protege, GHWB. As for republican opposition to NAFTA, out of 351 Republicans in both houses, only 44 voted against it, as for the dems, out of 313 in both houses 184 voted against NAFTA. While I don't condone the Clinton's in any way, if you are waiting for the repubs to do the right thing, you have a long wait.

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Stop shopping at WalFart!
Posted by: williameon on Apr 29, 2008 4:49 AM   
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Crappy Prepackaged meats and vegetables.
Non existent customer service and health care.
Employees with an ever dropping salary and IQ.
Shut them down and give your neighbor a better job.
They SUCK the money out of your town and send it straight to Arkansas and China.
They are a blight on the environment and Communities everywhere.
The epitome of the corrupt Corpirate System.
Selling Homogenized, Pasteurized CRAP!
Endless isles of plastic sh-t!
Pave over another corn feild with their huge parking lot,
Creating another giant Chinese Junk Ship.
Dollar Store America.
That is all we can afford now.
Isn't life great?
In the Home of the Ignorant and Enslaved.
Freedom is just another word for being
Force fed into a Corpirate meat grinder.
Consumerism is over.
It was fueled by cheap oil.
Kick the Habit!

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Sad Part
Posted by: JSquercia on Apr 29, 2008 5:44 AM   
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The Sad part is that in the begining Sam used to make it a point to buy American and even used that idea as part of his Advertising .

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Just How Far
Posted by: Southern Gal on Apr 29, 2008 6:34 AM   
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Just how far do you think the environmental and labor standards that our candidates are calling for on the campaign trail will get, when big business steps in to dictate their terms? Perhaps some of the better points of policies like Nike's could be adopted into the trade policies. We can pressure our new Democrat President and Congressional Representatives and Senators on this.

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Shop with a Conscience
Posted by: trinatocco on Apr 29, 2008 6:50 AM   
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Thanks so much for this honest article. Its refreshing to see this information from the auditors themselves. I've been working on a campaign to end Wal-Mart sweatshops for years and this article confirms what I've been saying! I did want to point out that there are a few clothing companies that have decided to respect freedom of association and pay a living wage. You can check out the latest Shop with a Conscience guide for more info.

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Can we Find a positive Side of high oil prices?
Posted by: peacekeepertwo on Apr 29, 2008 6:59 AM   
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While High Oil prices, alone will not stop Jobs from going overseas, They play a part in the Choises Corporations make. But don't forget that in many Cases we will have to rebuild our Manufacturing systems From the ground up, I was reminded the other day, that we can not build the machines, you need to make many these products here. the most modern equipment, is produced in Germany and Japan. If we are to make real gains, that will help develope the Equipment we need to produce these products at a price we can Afford, we will have to spend public money on R&D.

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Buy Less!
Posted by: jwhitneywise on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM   
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So here's something I've been thinking about...Corporations like Wal-Mart will argue that they operate the way that they do because it improves the quality of life for lower class folks because they have cheap goods to consume. So let's assume that you can't produce cheap goods when you have fair labor standards or, oh my god!, unions. That means we, who are no longer humans, but consumers, will have to consume less. Honestly that sounds pretty good to me! Consuming less because our demand has shifted from being a consumer of goods to a supporter of humanity has huge benefits for both the green and blue folks. And, honestly, if you want cheap stuff, go to a freakin' Goodwill. Used quality will outlast new crap any day. Of course, this is perhaps the least politically savvy thing one could say so it'll never get talked about.

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Anyone see the big smelly crude-oil soaked elephant in the living room?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 29, 2008 7:43 AM   
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Always the same - sugarcoated nonsense.

"Nike has become such a leader in the field that its Web site may be the single best resource for those trying to understand the difficult business of international labor standards. . ."

Then the author talks about "protectionism" as if that isn't already a fundamental feature of U.S. energy markets - recall when Unocal was going to be sold to the Chinese? Congress stepped in and banned the sale, and steered it to Chevron instead.

Isn't that a total violation of free trade rules? If some Third World country tried to block U.S. investment under a NAFTA agreement, they'd be sued and embargoed and just generally punished using every means available.

That's why articles like this stick to the topic of Nike shoes when they dicuss trade, and never, say, the current status of Iraqi oil imports to the United States. It's heavily spun B.S. that might just be intended to produce the notion of "it's just a few bad apples" in the public's mind.

Seriously - don't you ever wonder, in all the public discussion about "trade", that the most widely traded commodities are not discussed? Petroleum, food, sugar, coffee - these things dominate world trade.

Instead, these public discussions of trade always restrict themselves to just ONE topic: Cheap manufactured goods for the American consumer market. That's the basis of the trade discussion.

Ever wonder why the topic is deliberately kept so narrow? It's to avoid any real discussion that what goes on is not "trade between independent nations", but rather trade between plantation-factory slave labor systems run by dictators and slave owners in countries like China, Mexico, Indonesia, India, Burma, and their counterparts on Wall Street.

At the heart of the story is the issue of capital liberalization. My general rule of thumb is that articles on trade that ignore the central issue of capital liberalization are just smarmy propaganda. It is the central reason - really the only reason - for free trade agreements, which should all be renamed capital liberalization agreements.

Essentially, they try and force countries to sign agreements that allow foreign interests to pull cash out of the country with zero restrictions. Take normal retirement accounts and pension funds - you can't go and pull your money out without big penalties from the government and from the fund - that helps with the stability. Instead, what the U.S. has done is sign deals with corrupt politicos that allow funds to be vacuumed out of all of our trading partners without any restrictions - from Canada to Mexico to Peru and the Middle East.

Capital liberalization is really the central issue. The one large country that refused to allow capital liberalization as part of a U.S. trade deal was China - the only Asian country that has actually seen some benefits from trade - but only for their billionaire capitalist-children-of the-Commie Bosses- an arrangement that is fine with corporate bigwigs at Fidelity, WalMart, etc.

The Chinese billionaires have allowed their country to be polluted and their people to be enslaved - so they are very popular with corporate America these days. I mean, Hillary Clinton and China hired the same PR firm to spruce their images - Burson-Marsteller - and Clinton is a very close friend of the Waltons, and an ex-member of a corporate law firm, Rose Law, that helped the Waltons fight unionizing efforts at WalMart. Republicans also love China - well, they love repressive governments run by billionaires, that is.

The levels of misunderstanding on this whole issue are staggeringly high - and this article, sad to say, is just more spin.

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Tariffs would stop a lot of this
Posted by: sausage on Apr 29, 2008 7:54 AM   
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Yeah, old-fashioned, anti-"free trade", protective tariffs. And make it high. So high that importing cheap, Chinese-made junk with American logos would be prohibitive.

Oh, but I forgot. The real people who run this country, the Investor-class, have done a very good job of tearing down the factories that made this nation the "arsenal of democracy," not so long ago. The Investor-class's lap dogs, millionaire TV newsreaders, have done their part by brainwashing the majority of us into believing that the United States has moved beyond the "old," blue-collar "industrial economy" into the "new", white-collar "service and financial economy." So perhaps protective tariffs won't bring manufacturing to North American shores.

Therefore I propose a legal limit on retail pricing.

Since retailers, like Wal Mart and "manufacturers" like Nike, mark up items for the American consumer market as if they were made by domestic, union-labor, federal law should dictate that retail pricing reflect the actual cost of production for the retailer or "manufacturer."

For example, say it costs Nike $10 per unit, from design (the highest expense) to parts and labor (the lowest expense), to produce a pair of shoes, then Nike can only legally charge a 100% retail markup. In other words, if Nike spends $10 to make one pair of shoes, it can only markup the retail price $10 per pair. The customer only pays $20 for a pair of Nike's best shoes.

Chinese-made crap, manufactured under sweat-shop conditions and wages, should only cost the American consumer what they are worth in labor and materials.

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Otto
Posted by: otto on Apr 29, 2008 8:01 AM   
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I'm thinking of making a big sign for the top of my van and driving around or parking in the Wal-Mart lot near me (Hanover, Ontario, Canada), something like:
WALL-MART SUPPORTS:
-SLAVE LABOUR IN ASIA
-CANADIAN JOBS EXPORTED OVERSEAS
-LOW WAGES IN CANADA
DO YOU SUPPORT THIS?
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» My reaction Posted by: JimmyVaughan
» Watch your back! Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: Otto Posted by: VZEQICVA
Labor standards everywhere
Posted by: argyle on Apr 29, 2008 8:21 AM   
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are everyone's business. Their is no reason, rule of law, nor national border that protects, or gives one the right, to abuse and mistreat his brothers and sisters.

And while I appreciate your well-written informative piece. It is your kind of attitude that lets the status quo continue. The government of my nation, working as the voice of the people, should ensure that every worker who makes anything that is sold here earns a living wage. Nothing less is acceptable.

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» RE: Labor standards everywhere Posted by: 2cynical
Pay More For Quality
Posted by: frantaylor on Apr 29, 2008 9:51 AM   
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Don't buy cheap junk. It will break and become part of the waste stream, and you'll buy another. In the long run you will consume less materials and more labor, and isn't that the direction we want to head in? Spend more up front, buy quality items that can be renewed and repaired and upgraded easily. Get them repaired locally and keep the money in the community. Quality goods work better, are more pleasant to use, and they will often outlive you. Another benefit is that you will stop shopping at places like Wal-Mart because there are no quality items for sale there, only cheap junk.

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» RE: Pay More For Quality Posted by: cherylsass123
WalMart is doomed
Posted by: pangolin on Apr 29, 2008 9:42 AM   
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or we all are with it. The kind of exploitative thinking that uses people as disposable resources just like we use a forest, farmland or ocean is ultimately suicidal.

The people at Walmart know they are in big trouble and are trying to extend their tenure by greenwashing their operations but it just won't work in the long run. We can't afford a retail model that has people working for less than local survival wages selling items produced for less than local survival wages.

By "survival wages" I mean the kind of wages that allow for family stability and thriving social relationships. Eventually even the stupidest of people will understand that working in Walmart is the employment equivilent of using methamphetamines. You can get away with it for a while but if you don't get out in time it WILL kill you.

The environmental model Walmart has to offer will kill the rest of us also.

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Wal-Mart
Posted by: willymack on Apr 29, 2008 11:00 AM   
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Isn't doing anything that any large, unregulated business wouldn't be doing while a bush type regime looks the other way. The solution here is to get an administration in power which will re-introduce and enforce anti-trust laws and come down hard on violators, as well as cancelling NAFTA and other trade policies injurious to our people and those of other nations as well. Regulation of industries and businesses is ABSOULTELY NECESSARY, as the sorry mess created by reagan and the bushes has shown.. The wording of NATA wasn't all that bad. Problem is, nobody has lived up to that wording.

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What's Coming
Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Apr 29, 2008 11:49 AM   
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WalMart is dependent on cheap and available oil to exist - both of which are going to disappear in the near future. It depends on cheap oil to ship its sweat shop products from China...it depends on cheap oil to truck its cheap goods all over the US....it depends on it to cool or heat its huge box stores... We are coming to a time when the fuel for container ships will not support cheap goods, and electricity and natural gas will be so costly that most of us will actually remember to turn off the lights in our own homes....imagine cooling a box store in Tucson in August at 125 degrees in the sun (after shipping, then trucking cheap goods there). Imagine heating a box store in New Hampshire with a wind chill factor of 40 below zero. WalMarts may have a few good years left, but its days are very much numbered and so are the days of the Chinese sweatshops.

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» Right on Grandma! Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: What's Coming Posted by: mnatra
Unionize!
Posted by: billwald on Apr 29, 2008 11:49 AM   
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The posts confuse several issues. The solution to abusive employee practices in the US is for wal-mart to be unionized. I'll be happy to walk an informational picket line in the Seattle area. billwald@juno.com

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» RE: Unionize! Posted by: Falang
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 29, 2008 3:38 PM   
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BOYCOTT

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American Priorities At Work
Posted by: sofla100 on Apr 29, 2008 5:44 PM   
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Over half your taxes go now to fund the military and endless wars. Nothing is left for the people and the services we need, like national health care. Young people are left scrounging for scraps on the bottom, and working at places like Wal-Mart. To lure young people into the military, the minimum wage is kept low and little or no benefits provided. We have an economic and tax system geared totally towards the wealthy, the military and the "national security state." The rich continue to receive huge tax breaks and live like kings. Meanwhile, the rest of us, the pathetic lot that we are, fight over the scraps like little children. Just the way our ruling class wants it to be.

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parallels with organic in the third world
Posted by: mrxls on Apr 29, 2008 8:58 PM   
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I've been involved in building and preparing for organic certification food processing facilities in the third world.

I can't stress enough my agreement with the author's contention that active support from the top is vital to an exemplary operation. The other way to look at this is the fish rots from the head down, indifferent buyers encourage cut corners.

It is important to understand that operating at a high level in the third world - basically providing decent living wage factory jobs to the rising number of displaced rural people - is as much a matter of what can be done as adherence to objective regulations. There are basic standards of decency having to do with health, safety and compensation but after the basics coming up with the right formula is more a matter of creative use of limited resources as checking off a punchlist of good practices.

Organic certification of small farmers in the third world exchanges factory management for a less formal segment of the population. In farming you just can't be there every moment to watch that someone does the right thing. Sure you have paperwork, contact with management and surprise inspections. But those pale in importance to buy-in on the part of the people on the ground.

Be it American management, foreign management or foreign workers conscious agreement is the best guarranty.

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Why? Hillary voted against unionization at Walmart
Posted by: canadagirl on Apr 30, 2008 8:33 AM   
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Another sly little detail many don't know, but I was stuck with a Walmart job for a period of time, and it suck's. Very unfair worker's right's, pay scale, insurance...yeah a sweatshop.

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hillary bashers please read preceeding post
Posted by: e rice on Apr 30, 2008 10:35 AM   
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did hillary continue to serve on the board after sam walton died? did she support the decisions of his heirs?

if she supported the heirs, she deserves to be criticized.

is she supported a company that bought american and treated people fairly, she deserves to be praised.

so, can we base our judgements on fact? or even change them based on fact?

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Rich People are so smart, the best qualified...
Posted by: DaBear on Apr 30, 2008 2:12 PM   
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We should just let them continue as usual... they might give-us-jobs... someday.

All I can say is, come petrocollapse, they best watch their ass...

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EXCELLENT article
Posted by: Scott Teresi on May 5, 2008 12:17 PM   
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Excellent article. Written by a well-informed person who apparently knows their facts and presented them in a clear but detailed manner. Great job, Alternet!!

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RN
Posted by: mnatra on May 9, 2008 9:32 PM   
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Great Article. One point though, Wal Mart did not drop the first atomic bomb. the American taxpayer did.

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