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Verdict in Bell Shooting Is No Big Surprise
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At first glance, there was good reason to think that he was off base in his prediction and that the cops that fired the volley of shots that killed Bell would be convicted. An anguished New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg publicly questioned the shooting. Two of Bell's companions gave eyewitness testimony that the officers acted like Wild West cowboys and opened up without warning. And most importantly Bell was unarmed and seemingly posed no threat to the officers.
But expectations, witness testimony, seemingly unimpeachable evidence, and the official condemnation of the deadly shooting by city officials obviously weren't enough. There's equally good reason why it almost never is.
When cops go on trial for overuse of deadly force, their victims are generally young blacks and Latinos. The attorneys that defend them are top gun defense attorneys and have had much experience defending police officers accused of misconduct. Police unions pay them and they spare no expense in their defense. The cops rarely serve any pre-trial jail time, and are released on ridiculously low bail.
If the cops are tried by a jury, police defense attorneys seek to get as many middle-class whites on the panel as possible. The presumption is that they are much more likely to believe the testimony of police and prosecution witnesses than black witnesses, defendants, or even the victims.
Prosecutors have a big task in trying to overcome pro-police attitudes and the negative racial stereotypes. Two Penn State University studies on racial perceptions and stereotypes, one in 2003 and a follow-up study in 2008, found that many whites are likely to associate pictures of blacks with violent crimes, and in some cases where crimes were not committed by blacks they misidentified the perpetrator as an African American. Defense attorneys played hard on that perception and depicted Bell and his companions as thugs and drunkards who posed a threat to the officers.
Defense attorneys for the New York cops didn't have the advantage of a potentially pro-police jury. They requested and got a bench trial. But this wasn't a disadvantage to the defense. In a racially and emotionally charged case such as the Bell shooting, they figured they'd stand a better chance trying to massage and hone their evidence and testimony to a judge.
There is also no ironclad standard of what is or isn't acceptable use of force. It often comes down to a judgment call by the officer. In the Rodney King beating case in 1992 in which four LAPD officers stood trial, defense attorneys turned the tables and painted King as the aggressor and claimed that the level of force used against him was justified.
The four New York City cops tried for gunning down African immigrant, Amadou Diallo in 1999, also claimed that they feared for their lives. The jury believed them and acquitted them.
In Cincinnati, a municipal judge summarily acquitted white Cincinnati police officer, Stephen Roach of criminal charges in the slaying of 19-year-old Timothy Thomas during a traffic pursuit in 2001. The shooting ignited three days of riots. The judge bought Roach's tale that he feared for his life and fired in self-defense.
In the Bell case, the officer's attorneys used the same tact and argued that the officers feared for their lives when they fired. In his initial call to a supervising police lieutenant one of the charged officers, Gescard Isnora said he thought one of the suspects had a gun, made a suspicious move, and that the car they were in bumped him.
Isnora did not take the stand during the trial and say that. But fellow officer Michael Carey did and testified that the officers shouted warnings before blazing away at the unarmed Bell.
The code of silence is another powerful obstacle to convicting cops charged with crimes. Officers hide behind it and refuse to testify against other officers, or tailor their testimony to put the officer's action in the best possible light.
Prosecutors often are barred from using statements made during internal investigations of officer misconduct in court proceedings on grounds of self-incrimination. This knocks out another potentially crucial prosecution weapon. Federal prosecutors that retried the officers that beat King learned a vital lesson from the abysmal failure of local prosecutors to convict them. They did not rely exclusively on the videotape but on expert testimony on the use of force to prove that the officers went way over the top against King. Yet, they still only managed to convict two of the four officers.
Nailing cops for bad shootings is virtually impossible for even the most diligent prosecutor. The Bell case again proved that to be the case.
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Posted by: Turiye on Apr 25, 2008 9:49 PM
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Okay, so scare imbeciles about US food shortages, alot of garbage here and there on blogs today, another offering up of scare all Conspiracy Theorists that swear Psyops is always THERE for THEM, this is so much more important than that of Young Mr. Bells MURDER.
When my oldest lived in NY I was scared all the time, she is pretty, Latina, artist and actually a decent human being. That being said it could have just as easily been her, why not? Brown skin, brown eyes, comes home late from work @4 AM, one apt was near Spanish Harlem, but she loved it 'cos it overlooked Central Park, then she moved to Brooklyn for Economic reasons. I am from Philly and I know where I am, in NY, I am okay in Manhattan, that's all. Brooklyn had me scared, when I visited her there were crazy crack addicts about, but the Barber below, I think Puerto Ricano, she is Cubana, nice guy and they watched out for her.
I am shamed once again for such blatant disregard, regard-less(purposely used disregard and regard, so no advice other persons)that a young man, celebrating his upcoming nuptials, AGHAST!in a Strip Club because no man before Mr. Bell has ever done such a heinous, egregious action before marriage!F-I-F-T-Y-O-N-E Bullets and nary a Guilty as Charged in sight, in is a loss compounded further by an even greater loss, this Family must now, if they choose which they should, go through this HELL again and again in civil actions against these ?Officers?.
I appreciate a concise, direct view whereas I, as you see, have no clue what short winded means. Thank You, Sir.
To the Bell Family, my utter shame for this verdict, your tragic loss further compounded and I wish for you what it is that I can not give, Mr. and Mrs. Bell you know what I mean, I am deeply horrified and swear I will always remind Others Of the MURDER of Sean, an Innocent Murdered because of his skin color. This is all I can do to remind them of Sean and keep him with you with others thoughts.
Thank You.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 25, 2008 10:24 PM
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Posted by: hole11 on Apr 25, 2008 11:17 PM
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This isn't an injustice it's a blatant modern day lynching.
They make an example out of Wesley Snipes and now they make an example out of this dead man. Don't spook undercover police.
Blacks should protest by not supporting oppression. Snipes can be the first hero.
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» Well, they were black, after all
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Posted by: Nightstallion on Apr 26, 2008 4:14 AM
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There is no black man who will survive Cops in an Alien heat for blood. In fact, I even wrote a poem about it once. Right after they fried that one kid in Atlanta Georgia for a murder the prosecution could produce no weapon for. That was back last Feb. (I think the 14 the crass insane bastards kilt him) I believe Ice T. before he had the Brain Transplant said it best: "The only good Cop is a ....", well you know the rest. Besides I am too chicken shit to finish it since 107-54 (The Patriot Act) went into effect.
Now you are a bloody terrorist if you want to protect the innocent or stomp an injustice at home. Homeland security my ruddy bloody ass! God damned Goose Stepping Heel NAZI bastards any way. Next, they are going to be so bloody blatent about thier NAZI shit they will start wearing black helmets and black uniforms with black boots! OOOOOps!! Too late!
I am a conservative I believe in conserving the constitution! I believe any one caught circumventing the Constitution with Jack Booted thugs need to be Impeached and executed as traitors to the same. As in put up against a wall and shot! As in the Congress, and Presidents Cabinet also! They are killing our children for Gods sake! When will this shit stop?
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Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 26, 2008 5:13 AM
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In Blink, Malcolm Gladwell's look at the decisions we make instantaneously, he not only shows that racial prejudice gets instilled into everyone in our culture (including him, who is bi-racial) but that fear is always to blame in these tense situations. It is impossible to act rationally when your blood is pumping wildly and your brain is clouded and set on Ready by your prejudice that black men, in particular, are universally dangerous and out to get you.
Sean Bell did not deserve to die, and no matter what the union spokesman says, killing him did not make the world, and us, safer. RIP
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Posted by: scheherezade on Apr 26, 2008 5:20 AM
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And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
In the face of food and water shortages, it won't be long before hungry white people start looking kinda threatening...
Meanwhile in Florida -- it ain't just young black males who are exempt from basic civil protections: Pretty, white 28-year old Jennifer Porter got off scot-free for a 2004 hit and run incident where she ran over 4 (black) children, killing 2 (she dragged the 3-year-old 150 feet) -- then ran home and hid for a day.
The reason for the acquittal?
According to the middle-aged, horny white male judge, poor Jennifer had "suffered enough."
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Posted by: Toby on Apr 26, 2008 5:23 AM
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 26, 2008 8:32 AM
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This was revealed in the NY Times comments of this by a retired cop who was assigned to a NY anti crime unit and never had to much regard or respect for this flawed system..of NYPD..
This may be why it keeps happening over and over..
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Posted by: asilsfable on Apr 26, 2008 9:18 AM
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An ordinance needs to be passed that any gunplay that involves more than, say, 5 shots, must be investigated by the Justice department or the FBI. It needs to be taken out of the hands of the local authorities because they ate often part of a systemic problem.
To think that we are beyond race is so ridiculous.
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» the local authorities because they *are* often part of a systemic problem.
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Posted by: Malcus Garvey on Apr 26, 2008 6:59 PM
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Have the Black kids put the sign in the title of this paper on their car tags, shirts and jackets, and they'll never receive backshots. Even if the killer-cops see their skin, the thought that they may be Semitic or European will strike fear in this nation's front-line Ethnocide managers. Law enforcement.
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Posted by: oxheadone on Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM
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Posted by: Rainaissance Man on Apr 27, 2008 12:28 AM
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1st. Racist don't hide. People who are filled with hate don't hide it. There was no evidence that any of these officers had previously been acquainted with any establishment condoning racism.
2nd. Some say that their excuse of being in fear of losing their lives is a bogus defense for shooting a young Black man. These officers were in a neighborhood where the majority of crimes committed are done so by blacks. They had every right to fear that Bell might react violently. IE: I had been dating an Italian woman for some time. Let's just say her last name was "Giuseppe". When she said I want you to come over and meet my family over dinner, I sure as heck expected an Italian meal. I was being prejudice, but does that make me a bad person?
We are all prejudice. Not to mention any names but even ACLUeless organization in particular that often grandstands to the media is guilty of judging others based on how they initially perceive a situation. Let alone their adeptness in the practice of focusing the emotional power of the populous which is currently discontented by a particular incident and then turning it into a righteous assault on the government, in a similar fashion to any other special interest groups, then take advantage of a situation in it's totality to lobby Congress into passing a bill that caters to their own personal agenda.
Political correctness infractions cause political conversation retractions. Lighten up America, we have enough socio-political faults as it is without having to create more issues which end up lining the pockets of lawyers and union leaders.
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Posted by: BCcovers on Apr 28, 2008 11:48 AM
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In fact the judge stated, as part of his verdict that he was displeased with the conduct of the witnesses and the overall inconsistency of their stories from the time of the shooting until when they testified in court. I guess they saw a greater chance of collecting for Sean's widow through this plan than getting a guilty verdict through telling the truth.
Remember, it is a judges job to decide the case put in front of him by the prosecutors. If the prosecutors have witnesses with alterior motives, then it is very difficult for the prosecution to put together a coherent case. "Justice" not having been served might have been an unintentional or intentional result of a plot to win a civil law suit and collect a big payday.
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Michael Elliott
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Posted by: made2order on Apr 30, 2008 5:45 PM
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that is insane. It does not take 50 bullets to
defend yourself. This is execution, murder, done
by egomaniac powermongering freaks.Nobody is ever safe again on any street. We will be walking around soon with guns each, we will have
to. No Judge will bring your life back, nor even
honor it. NWO's agenda to kill 2/3 of the world-
population and enslave the leftovers and suck their cox.
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Posted by: Turiye on Apr 25, 2008 9:49 PM
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Okay, so scare imbeciles about US food shortages, alot of garbage here and there on blogs today, another offering up of scare all Conspiracy Theorists that swear Psyops is always THERE for THEM, this is so much more important than that of Young Mr. Bells MURDER.
When my oldest lived in NY I was scared all the time, she is pretty, Latina, artist and actually a decent human being. That being said it could have just as easily been her, why not? Brown skin, brown eyes, comes home late from work @4 AM, one apt was near Spanish Harlem, but she loved it 'cos it overlooked Central Park, then she moved to Brooklyn for Economic reasons. I am from Philly and I know where I am, in NY, I am okay in Manhattan, that's all. Brooklyn had me scared, when I visited her there were crazy crack addicts about, but the Barber below, I think Puerto Ricano, she is Cubana, nice guy and they watched out for her.
I am shamed once again for such blatant disregard, regard-less(purposely used disregard and regard, so no advice other persons)that a young man, celebrating his upcoming nuptials, AGHAST!in a Strip Club because no man before Mr. Bell has ever done such a heinous, egregious action before marriage!F-I-F-T-Y-O-N-E Bullets and nary a Guilty as Charged in sight, in is a loss compounded further by an even greater loss, this Family must now, if they choose which they should, go through this HELL again and again in civil actions against these ?Officers?.
I appreciate a concise, direct view whereas I, as you see, have no clue what short winded means. Thank You, Sir.
To the Bell Family, my utter shame for this verdict, your tragic loss further compounded and I wish for you what it is that I can not give, Mr. and Mrs. Bell you know what I mean, I am deeply horrified and swear I will always remind Others Of the MURDER of Sean, an Innocent Murdered because of his skin color. This is all I can do to remind them of Sean and keep him with you with others thoughts.
Thank You.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 25, 2008 10:24 PM
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jdfu!
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Posted by: hole11 on Apr 25, 2008 11:17 PM
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This isn't an injustice it's a blatant modern day lynching.
They make an example out of Wesley Snipes and now they make an example out of this dead man. Don't spook undercover police.
Blacks should protest by not supporting oppression. Snipes can be the first hero.
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» Well, they were black, after all
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Posted by: Nightstallion on Apr 26, 2008 4:14 AM
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There is no black man who will survive Cops in an Alien heat for blood. In fact, I even wrote a poem about it once. Right after they fried that one kid in Atlanta Georgia for a murder the prosecution could produce no weapon for. That was back last Feb. (I think the 14 the crass insane bastards kilt him) I believe Ice T. before he had the Brain Transplant said it best: "The only good Cop is a ....", well you know the rest. Besides I am too chicken shit to finish it since 107-54 (The Patriot Act) went into effect.
Now you are a bloody terrorist if you want to protect the innocent or stomp an injustice at home. Homeland security my ruddy bloody ass! God damned Goose Stepping Heel NAZI bastards any way. Next, they are going to be so bloody blatent about thier NAZI shit they will start wearing black helmets and black uniforms with black boots! OOOOOps!! Too late!
I am a conservative I believe in conserving the constitution! I believe any one caught circumventing the Constitution with Jack Booted thugs need to be Impeached and executed as traitors to the same. As in put up against a wall and shot! As in the Congress, and Presidents Cabinet also! They are killing our children for Gods sake! When will this shit stop?
Thanks for Reading
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» RE: Forgive me but you remind me of Mark Twain, he was always tilting off at windmills too.
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Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 26, 2008 5:13 AM
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In Blink, Malcolm Gladwell's look at the decisions we make instantaneously, he not only shows that racial prejudice gets instilled into everyone in our culture (including him, who is bi-racial) but that fear is always to blame in these tense situations. It is impossible to act rationally when your blood is pumping wildly and your brain is clouded and set on Ready by your prejudice that black men, in particular, are universally dangerous and out to get you.
Sean Bell did not deserve to die, and no matter what the union spokesman says, killing him did not make the world, and us, safer. RIP
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Posted by: scheherezade on Apr 26, 2008 5:20 AM
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And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
In the face of food and water shortages, it won't be long before hungry white people start looking kinda threatening...
Meanwhile in Florida -- it ain't just young black males who are exempt from basic civil protections: Pretty, white 28-year old Jennifer Porter got off scot-free for a 2004 hit and run incident where she ran over 4 (black) children, killing 2 (she dragged the 3-year-old 150 feet) -- then ran home and hid for a day.
The reason for the acquittal?
According to the middle-aged, horny white male judge, poor Jennifer had "suffered enough."
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Posted by: Toby on Apr 26, 2008 5:23 AM
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 26, 2008 8:32 AM
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This was revealed in the NY Times comments of this by a retired cop who was assigned to a NY anti crime unit and never had to much regard or respect for this flawed system..of NYPD..
This may be why it keeps happening over and over..
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Posted by: asilsfable on Apr 26, 2008 9:18 AM
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An ordinance needs to be passed that any gunplay that involves more than, say, 5 shots, must be investigated by the Justice department or the FBI. It needs to be taken out of the hands of the local authorities because they ate often part of a systemic problem.
To think that we are beyond race is so ridiculous.
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» the local authorities because they *are* often part of a systemic problem.
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» yeah that'll solve everything.
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Posted by: Malcus Garvey on Apr 26, 2008 6:59 PM
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Have the Black kids put the sign in the title of this paper on their car tags, shirts and jackets, and they'll never receive backshots. Even if the killer-cops see their skin, the thought that they may be Semitic or European will strike fear in this nation's front-line Ethnocide managers. Law enforcement.
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Posted by: oxheadone on Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM
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Posted by: Rainaissance Man on Apr 27, 2008 12:28 AM
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1st. Racist don't hide. People who are filled with hate don't hide it. There was no evidence that any of these officers had previously been acquainted with any establishment condoning racism.
2nd. Some say that their excuse of being in fear of losing their lives is a bogus defense for shooting a young Black man. These officers were in a neighborhood where the majority of crimes committed are done so by blacks. They had every right to fear that Bell might react violently. IE: I had been dating an Italian woman for some time. Let's just say her last name was "Giuseppe". When she said I want you to come over and meet my family over dinner, I sure as heck expected an Italian meal. I was being prejudice, but does that make me a bad person?
We are all prejudice. Not to mention any names but even ACLUeless organization in particular that often grandstands to the media is guilty of judging others based on how they initially perceive a situation. Let alone their adeptness in the practice of focusing the emotional power of the populous which is currently discontented by a particular incident and then turning it into a righteous assault on the government, in a similar fashion to any other special interest groups, then take advantage of a situation in it's totality to lobby Congress into passing a bill that caters to their own personal agenda.
Political correctness infractions cause political conversation retractions. Lighten up America, we have enough socio-political faults as it is without having to create more issues which end up lining the pockets of lawyers and union leaders.
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Posted by: BCcovers on Apr 28, 2008 11:48 AM
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In fact the judge stated, as part of his verdict that he was displeased with the conduct of the witnesses and the overall inconsistency of their stories from the time of the shooting until when they testified in court. I guess they saw a greater chance of collecting for Sean's widow through this plan than getting a guilty verdict through telling the truth.
Remember, it is a judges job to decide the case put in front of him by the prosecutors. If the prosecutors have witnesses with alterior motives, then it is very difficult for the prosecution to put together a coherent case. "Justice" not having been served might have been an unintentional or intentional result of a plot to win a civil law suit and collect a big payday.
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Posted by: notgeorgebush on Apr 30, 2008 2:39 PM
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Michael Elliott
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» RE: Wasn't this a jury trial?
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Posted by: made2order on Apr 30, 2008 5:45 PM
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that is insane. It does not take 50 bullets to
defend yourself. This is execution, murder, done
by egomaniac powermongering freaks.Nobody is ever safe again on any street. We will be walking around soon with guns each, we will have
to. No Judge will bring your life back, nor even
honor it. NWO's agenda to kill 2/3 of the world-
population and enslave the leftovers and suck their cox.
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