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Survival Guide for Life in a Sexist Society

By Jill Filipovic, AlterNet. Posted April 25, 2008.


Amanda Marcotte, author of It's a Jungle Out There, tells you how to fight modern-day misogyny and have fun at the same time. Excerpt follows.
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Editor's note: Since this Q&A was conducted, it has come to light that It's a Jungle Out There contains racist cartoons of "natives" in a jungle setting. AlterNet does not condone nor promote books that contain this kind of problematic imagery. In light of the controversy, the publisher has taken responsibility for the images, and agreed to pull them from future printings. The author has also apologized.

It's not easy being a feminist. From silly stereotypes (hairy armpits! lots of cats!) to anti-choice nuts (who support the right to life unless the life in question belongs to a person who has already been born) to the dudes who think women's rights advocates are "cute" and challenging (until they figure out that you won't do their laundry for them), there's a lot to leave a woman frustrated. But as Amanda Marcotte argues in her new book, while it may be impossible to escape the jungle of sexism, there are at least some fun -- and funny -- ways to wade through it.

It's a Jungle Out There: The Feminist Survival Guide to Politically Inhospitable Environments is Marcotte's how-to manual for feminist-minded women to take on a sexist society and have a good laugh along the way. And Marcotte herself is no stranger to wielding humor against misogynist attacks -- as a blogger at Pandagon and Offsprung and a writer for RH Reality Check, she regularly does battle with anti-choicers, right-wing extremists and anti-feminists of all stripes.

She was also at the center of controversy when Sen. John Edwards hired her as a blogger for his presidential campaign. Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League, launched an attack on Marcotte and encouraged his supporters to put her in her place. The right-wing blogs fueled the assault, the mainstream media picked up the issue, and Marcotte was subjected to a flood of hate mail that could be summed up, as she put it, "You have a potty mouth, you stupid cunt." She eventually resigned from the campaign, but her experience with right-wing hit men has clearly shaped her determination to fight back instead of shutting up.

And her book is the ultimate instruction manual in fighting back.

Jill Filipovic: What inspired you to write It's a Jungle Out There in the first place?

Amanda Marcotte: Well, with the very personal nature of blogs I get a lot of questions on how to fight back against sexism on a personal, day-to-day level. I also live in a red state, albeit in a blue city in a red state, so I felt like I had a unique perspective on how to confront the sexism that's still out there, since I feel like I get it more often than a lot of other feminists do. I came up with a survival guide, a la The Zombie Survival Guide. I thought that it would just be a fun book for feminists to read and have a laugh at the unending sexism we address on a daily basis.

JF: Is the book aimed at nonfeminists too?

AM: I tried to address the issue of women who don't call themselves feminists but who are in fact feminists by kind of making fun of the whole debate. If you're afraid to call yourself a feminist, it's probably an unfounded fear. So I would hope that women who don't like sexism but who are still scared to call themselves feminists read this and walk away identifying themselves more accurately. But there are other books that address the issue more thoroughly, so I didn't want to deal with it too much.

JF: I know you're a long-standing Insufferable Music Snob, but what was the reasoning behind including recommendations for feminist-minded movies and music?

AM: I'm published on Seal Press, and with a lot of their books they ask you to put a resource section at the end. I've read a billion feminists books, and they all have the same resources sections -- here's a list of books, here are some blogs. When I started to write it, Jessica [Valenti]'s book [Full Frontal Feminism] had just come out, and I thought, why use the same resources section? So I thought, you know what would be more fun? Let's make the resource section the kind of stuff that women engage with on a daily basis. And what do women engage with more than pop culture? I was definitely looking for stuff that you could look to in order to give you energy on a daily basis.


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Jill Filipovic is AlterNet's Reproductive Justice and Gender editor and a law student at NYU. More of her writing is available online at her blog, Feministe.

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Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 25, 2008 12:34 AM   
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FREE AMERICA


Direct Democracy

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» ... Posted by: Ayla87
I know
Posted by: Joe on Apr 25, 2008 6:13 AM   
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myspace has a death count website. does this site have one?

alternet is bad for your health.

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Sexist Society?
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Apr 25, 2008 6:27 AM   
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You think it's sexist now you just wait till people can no longer afford to borrow enough money to keep up with the inflation that they deny even exists. The american mantra: "Oh there's no inflation, I'm just in debt for the fun of it!"

It was the increase in wealth and living standards that paved the way for more civil rights. If you want to keep the trend going in the right direction, then you're going to have to gain a much better understanding of economics.

My Youtube Ron Paul Playlist and Chris Martenson's Crash Course would be very helpful to that end.

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» RE: Sexist Society? Posted by: Spock
» YES YOU'RE RIGHT Posted by: Verjenie
» sybil leek Posted by: e rice
» RE: Sexist Society? Posted by: phatkhat
AMANDA MARCOTTE DREW HEAVILY ON WORK OF WOMEN OF COLOR BLOGGERS IN ALTERNET PIECE
Posted by: maribelle on Apr 25, 2008 7:54 AM   
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I am distressed to see this interview and promotion of this book while there has been a major blowup in the feminist blogsphere over the ethics of this author.

It has become clear that Ms. Marcotte was heavily influenced in her work by other women of color bloggers, most specifically brownfemipower, a prominent blogger who has been writing about the nexis of immigration and racism for 2 years. (BFP also gave a major speech on the topic a few weeks ago.)While the work was not plagarized, she used much of the same analysis and even the same examples from BFP's work.

The article in question was run by Alternet under the title "Sexual Abuse Fueled by Racist Immagration Language" on April 7.

Note in the bottom of the comments section the flurry of posts titled "I've Seen This Somewhere Before." by "lexical":

"Women of color bloggers and activists have been talking about this issue in exactly these terms for years. I'm glad to see this analysis and this issue in the conversation, but I'm shocked not to see any reference to the women who have been saying this over and over again..."

This is an ONGOING PROBLEM that people of color face everyday; having their work and contributions appropriated by white people without credit. All that was needed to correct this situation was an acknowledgement of the hard work done by Marcotte's allies on the same topic, and possibly a link to the other site. Marcotte has refused to do any of this.

Moreover, the illustrations that accompany Marcotte's book are racist images of a young, lithe "jungle woman" (with Barbie curves, natch) attacking black natives to free a captive white man.

Ms. Marcotte has come under fire before for insensitivity on race issues, and has reacted with anger, accusations of sabatoge and extreme defensiveness. Her reactions to the very legitimate concerns of hard-working women bloggers has been insults, accusations and derision.

A greater dialogue on these issues need to take place in the mainstream public sphere; Ms. Marcotte loses credibility when she perpetrates the same kind of erasure of women that she herself decries.

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» O. Tapestry get's bigger. Posted by: Verjenie
» RE: O. Tapestry get's bigger. Posted by: 23skidoo
» thank you Posted by: e rice
» RE: WOMEN OF COLOR BLOGGERS Posted by: onebigunion
Question
Posted by: tjg1984 on Apr 25, 2008 9:54 AM   
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What is the difference between feminists "picking their battles" and libertarians engaging in "pick-and-choose politics," aside from the fact that she generally agrees with the former and disagrees with the latter?

Just as not all feminists have the time and money to stand up to patriarchy in every area of their lives, so most libertarians do not have the means to fund private road systems and educate their children outside of the public schools while being forced to pay taxes to fund government roads and schools.

Additionally, many people who identify as libertarian are not strong supporters of privatizing the roads, as long as they are paid for by their users through taxes on things like fuel and tires, and possibly through tolls in some situations.

For those who would like to see transportation privatized, it is generally pretty low on the list of priorities. Most people who call themselves "libertarians" are more interested in ending the war in Iraq, getting the government to stop torturing people, stopping domestic spying without warrants, repealing most or all of the Patriot Act, ending the so-called "War on Drugs," and things like that. I would also argue that most libertarians support a woman's right to choose.

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This is so polarizinig
Posted by: MonkeyDaddy on Apr 25, 2008 10:20 AM   
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"What role do men play - if any"? You're kidding right? You want society to be more inclusive and egalitarian but half the planet just doesn't get it by your standards? My 12 year old daughter is more progressive than this. The idea that men cannot be "feminist" without trying to control the movement is pure sexism. There is a difference between dialogue and diatribe and this is not a dialogue.

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» RE: This is so polarizinig Posted by: 23skidoo
» RE: This is so polarizinig Posted by: e rice
» RE: This is so polarizinig Posted by: Crazy H
» How ironic Posted by: Q30
» RE: How ironic Posted by: 23skidoo
» control games Posted by: e rice
"mysogyny"
Posted by: Crazy H on Apr 25, 2008 10:27 AM   
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I'm really getting tired of this word. There are very few men who actually hate women. They may show their love in ways that are not appreciated by the recipient, but that's a far cry from hatred.

OTOH, there are just a whole bunch of feminists who truly do hate men.

I'm not saying that sexism doesn't exist: but I am saying that unfounded accusations of hatred won't help matters. Nor is it healthy for misandrists to go around hating half the human population based on an accident of birth.

If you truly want to fix matters: work towards common understanding, don't try to expand the divide.

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» RE: "mysandry" %^P Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: "mysandry" :-D Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: "mysandry" %^P Posted by: e rice
» ok Posted by: e rice
» RE: ok Posted by: Crazy H
» Whoa there, bud Posted by: Q30
Great interview
Posted by: K.A. on Apr 25, 2008 12:53 PM   
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And great excerpt. I wasn't sure before, but I'll definitely be reading this book.

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oh, alternet...
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Apr 25, 2008 5:03 PM   
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i was really put off by alternet's disclaimer at the beginning of this article...while i hope we as human beings have gone beyond racial cartoons (which we haven't)...i find it foolish for a media outlet like alternet to deny the existance of such material - especially in an historical context - by sweeping it under the proverbial rug...i find it even more reprehensible that the publisher has acquiesced to alternet's whining...i'm sure the book is full of misogynistic cartoons as misogyny is the topic...why don't you just pull the whole article and pretend the book was never written.

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The female chauvinists lie.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Apr 25, 2008 11:10 PM   
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There is no patriarchy. The female is in charge of the sexual
encounter. It is a law of [Mother] Nature's.

"Men have been defining the dominant paradigm of society
forever." is the Big Lie technique. It is completely absurd.
Amanda Marcotte thinks she can get you to believe it by repeating
it enough times.

"But what about child support?" What about equality in child
custody? Have you ever heard of a woman paying child support?

"AM: As far as the MRAs who came out of the feminist
movement, they did it precisely because they were alarmed to
come into a situation with a bunch of women and to not be given
the major leadership role. "
LIE! What if the "MRA" was actually in favor of EQUALITY?
By the way, equal means the same, not a new version of female
superiority. What we have now and have always had is female
superiority. Males are only allowed to make those decisions that
make no difference. The only important decision, who will be
born, is still made only by females.

"Making things seem like they're options as opposed to rights has
given a lot of men this notion that if you can choose to have an
abortion, I can choose not to support a child that's actually alive."
LIE. It isn't child support, it is ALIMONY, and it is armed
robbery and holding the child hostage. If you want the father to
pay for the child, let the child live with the father in the father's
house.

breast implants: I'm against them. I prefer small breasts.

the Quiverfull movement: Religion is caused by childhood
brainwashing and insanity. Don't expect anything sane from
crazy people. The cure is Science. The impending ecological
disaster [global warming], if it is allowed to happen, will kill
99.99% of all people or make Homo Sapiens extinct. That will
put an end to the Quiverfull movement.

"You can have a uterus or be a full-blown adult human being, but
not both at once" She really means exactly the opposite.

"the Supreme Court, which was considered mainstream last I
checked" She hasn't checked since George W. Bush became
president. GWB's appointments are the kind who will support
GWB doing exactly what Hitler did, which is exactly what GWB
is doing.

Jill Filipovic and Amanda Marcotte: Why is it still so difficult to
get American women to major in science, engineering and math?
I know the answer: American women want to turn marriage into a
high priced form of prostitution. That is female chauvinism. I
am a man who was a member of the Society of Women Engineers
for several years. I finally found my scientist to marry. She was
from China and working on her Ph.D. in chemistry when I met
her.

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MERRIBELLE, BLUE HERON, AND E RICE
Posted by: Crazy H on Apr 26, 2008 12:17 PM   
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Merribelle, Blue Heron, and E Rice -

Here are your words as I heard them:

"i don't hate all black people. i despise most of the american blacks i've known--but i like, respect and admire many of the british and european blacks i've known"

"No, that's not racism. THAT'S SURVIVAL. (based on averages) He HAS to look funny at you and grab his cell phone. BECAUSE YOU ARE BLACK."

"Luckily I happen to be very athletic, so do not face the same challenges as some more petite white people out there. There's nothing I love more than physically threatening black people - I do it wherever and whenever I can ;0)"

I rest my case. I'm finished posting on this thread.

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This is an incredible comments section
Posted by: Q30 on Apr 26, 2008 1:54 PM   
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There are women on this thread OPENLY BRAGGING about hating men, but the men who blow the whistle on it are being called haters.

The Mad Hatter should drop-in for tea any second now.

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» you are an idiot Posted by: e rice
Some insightful analysis of Amanda's book
Posted by: techphile on Apr 26, 2008 9:35 PM   
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For more information about the content of Amanda Marcotte's book please see this posting at feministe.

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All this hatred
Posted by: GPFrank on Apr 27, 2008 7:07 AM   
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The medieval philosophers had it right when they said Hubris is the deadliest of all sins. With pride the egotist is enemy to everything else.
The egotist does not even think on the hope of making friends, being friendly for its own sake.
The egotist seeks only allies when, as Hobbes
considered that "Each man is a wolf to another", with little conception of the actual lives and behavior of wolves.
But if a man could forget his hubris he could find out one of the greatest joys is being friends to a woman. He might even laugh at her jokes.

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the reason young women have trouble identifying with feminism??
Posted by: Beste on Apr 27, 2008 7:47 PM   
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because of bigoted man-haters like Marcotte, Maribelle and e rice.

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» i actually like some men Posted by: e rice
» not really Posted by: e rice
Why not remove the article?
Posted by: meeneecat on Apr 28, 2008 12:57 PM   
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If the racism in this book has "recently come to light" to the authors of this article/Alternet, issuing a "disclaimer" is pretty pathetic, IMO. Why not remove the article entirely rather than continue to promote a racist book by an author who is also known for suppressing the voices of WOC bloggers? The images in this book are racist and inexcusable, so why continue to give space to this book?

Despite what it says in the "disclaimer" Alternet IS promoting this book simply by giving it the time of day!

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I'm so blessed to be married to a woman who will have nothing to do with feminists or feminism.
Posted by: JimmyVaughan on Apr 29, 2008 8:01 PM   
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The comments by some of the women who've posted to this thread are very revealing.

The hatred of men is palpable--not to mention disturbing.

All I can say is my condolence to your husbands. I pity them.

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since there is still some traffic
Posted by: e rice on Apr 30, 2008 10:32 PM   
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this was my reply to the statement by a man that most men in america like women.


the pay gap between men and women in america is greater than that of nearly any other industrialized country.

if there are so many men who like women, why are they not demanding fair pay?

insurance companies refuse to cover birth control pills, even when they are prescriped for endometriosis, an agonizing disease that leads to hysterectomy and even death.

if there are so many men who like women, why are they not demanding that insurance companies pay for treatment for this disease?

the mortality rate for pregnant women in this country is higher than about 18 other countries.

if there are so many men who like women, why is there no demand for better medical treatment for pregnant women in this country?

this is in response to being told that my granddaughter (!) would have it better (what black orator asked, if not now, when?)
women in the european union have it better than american women RIGHT NOW.

why aren't men who like women demanding that this country equal the e.u?

why is it that justice and equality for women is based on women's perceived emotions, and not on human decency? we'll treat you fairly when you stop hating us is extortion.

i don't remember anyone telling black people they would get their rights once they stopped hating white people. maybe i missed something.

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