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McCain Shows Us How to Kill an Army

By Sara Robinson, TomPaine.com. Posted April 17, 2008.


McCain is gunning to tear up an ancient contract between a nation and its veterans, denying security to the very people who defend ours.

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John McCain, who from the early 1980s worked hard to establish himself as one of the Senate's shining champions of Vietnam veterans' issues, completed his betrayal of the Iraq-era troops today. Brandon Friedman of vetvoice.com has the details:


Yesterday VoteVets.org delivered a petition with 30,000 signatures to the office of Sen. John McCain. Through that petition, we asked him to support Sen. Jim Webb's new GI Bill. And less than 24 hours later, we have an answer:

"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, seemed to give a thumbs down to bipartisan legislation that would greatly expand educational benefits for members of the military returning from Iraq and Afghanistan under the GI Bill ..."

The reason for McCain's refusal to support the bill is about the most disturbing rationale one could imagine. ... Officials in charge of Pentagon personnel worry that a more generous and expansive GI Bill would create an incentive for troops to get out of the military and go to college.
Friedman observes that McCain's no-college-for-grunts position essentially says to the troops: "Thanks for your service and your three combat tours in five years. Now get back to work."

Jim Webb has been trying to update the GI Bill to restore its original intention -- which was to reward returning vets for their service by giving them a full education, lifetime healthcare, and the foundations on which to build a comfortable and successful civilian life. But, says Friedman, the Cons have apparently abandoned that noble goal. And in doing so, they're unveiling an entirely different vision of our troops' future relationship to the rest of America.

McCain makes it clear that he wants to make the GI Bill so weak and useless that troops will have no choice but to stay in the military for life. Friedman argues persuasively that this is not only a breach of a sacred trust Americans have upheld with their troops for over 60 years; it's also a slap in the face to military recruiters, who ask families to give up their children to the war machine -- and now have nothing compelling to offer them in return. And in the long run, it ensures that the military will become the career of last resort for those who have no other options. Reading this, it strikes me that, as usual, the conservatives aren't being nearly careful enough about what they wish for. In fact, it's not hard at all to imagine a scenario in which this new relationship to our military -- which forsakes the last vestiges of America's traditional civilian militias and creates a new class of involuntarily indentured permanent soldiers -- creates far-flung changes that may undermine the stability of our democracy.

How we got here

The GI Bill is recent -- but the deal it represents is as old as history. It's one of the great recurring patterns: in most times and places, the best way for a young man full of brains and ambition but short on money and connections to move up in the world was to join the military and distinguish himself. (The other typical mobility paths were to become a teacher, scholar, or priest.) It was a huge risk: the odds of becoming a combat hero and rising to the officers' ranks were slim compared to those of coming home crippled -- or not coming home at all. But the potential upside was equally enormous. If you wanted to get off the farm, marry well and launch yourself into the ownership class, becoming a war hero has usually been your best way out.

With the GI Bill, America democratized this ancient deal. It guaranteed that same shot at a solid middle-class life to everyone who signed up and did their tour, regardless of what their service entailed (and, in doing so, also somewhat reduced the incentive for ambitious soldiers to secure their civilian futures by instigating unnecessary battles. Combat hero or clerk typist, you were part of the effort, and you'd still get yours.). In a country that had usually resisted the very idea of raising a standing army, the GI Bill fostered the new post-war military industrial complex by normalizing military service. It was the deal that allowed families to send their sons (and later, their daughters) off in the belief that the military would open the doors to a better life. It was also the sugar that -- for a while, anyway -- took some of the bitterness from universal conscription.

Generous GI benefits became even more important in the aftermath of Vietnam, as the country abandoned the draft in favor of an all-volunteer army. The country's war hawks approved of this move: The Vietnam-era draft had touched every family in America regardless of class; and it was the middle and upper-middle classes' unwillingness to consent to that sacrifice that had so forcefully politicized the war. A military comprising troops who'd voluntarily agreed to be there would not only be easier to discipline and manage; they'd be much easier to deploy without creating major political upheavals.

The brass also knew from the start that going all-volunteer would increase the class divisions in the military. The bulk of those new recruits -- both noncoms and officers -- would be kids from working-class families looking for a shot at college. As the conservatives cut back on government-backed college grants and loans, the GI Bill and ROTC would step up to become the country's new college-aid programs. Given that this realignment happened alongside the retooling of a new high-tech military that required an extremely skilled and disciplined corps to function, this new model wouldn't work -- couldn't work -- unless the benefits and working conditions were good enough to attract a huge flow of smart, stable, high-quality volunteers.

Predictably, the number of volunteers has fallen off markedly in the Bush era, as the war has dramatically raised the risks associated with service, and the promised benefits have vanished. Working-class kids may not have many prospects left; but they can do the math, and they're staying away in droves. To keep the warm bodies coming, the military has begun to compromise on quality. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the number of new recruits coming in on conduct waivers is up. So is the number of convicted felons, gang members, avowed racists and people with substance abuse problems. The military is increasingly turning a blind eye to soldier misconduct, because it can't afford to lose the boots -- so racist activity, rape, and other criminal acts are going largely unpunished.

Maybe McCain figures that this new crop of kids isn't all that interested in college anyway. Maybe he's decided that down here, with the bottom of the barrel coming into sight, we're getting the kids for whom the military isn't a ticket to college, or a way out of anything. It's just a better alternative than a lifetime of unemployment -- or worse, cycling in and out of jail. And maybe he's being a realist about that. It's certainly where we seem to be headed.

But we don't have to go there. And if we think this all the way through, we'll do whatever it takes not to go there. Because if McCain is serious about stripping away the barest promise of benefits and turning America's high-tech army into a dumping ground for the country's undereducated, precriminal, behaviorally unstable and economically desperate -- then there's another possible future looming, and it's the stuff of our worst nightmares.

What lies ahead

What follows is a scenario -- a little concatenation of what-if stories about what could happen if America breaks its historical pact of guaranteeing education, healthcare, and a middle-class future to its service men and women. It's not a prediction. It's just a look at some of the ways McCain's new view of what we owe our troops could play out if we don't change course.

Inside the military

As kids with any kind of prospects at all flee from recruiters who have nothing left to offer them, the sliding standards of the past few years become a fast tumble to the bottom. Soon, America's military is nothing more than the employer of last resort. It's society's dumping ground for people with inadequate education, drug problems, criminal records, and unaddressed behavior issues -- people who can't even hold down McJobs and for whom going to war and getting shot at is a marginally better choice to going to jail and getting knifed.

What happens from here is a scene from The Dirty Dozen -- or the last years of Vietnam -- writ large. Faced with battalions of armed misfits -- including a large number of sociopaths for whom punishment is meaningless -- officers can't hold down the fort. The result is anarchy, followed by the rise of internal drug-running gangs, racist militias, God squads of fundamentalist holy warriors, and other assorted warlords. (Some of these have close ties to existing civilian organizations such as prison gangs, white supremacist militias and far-right dominionist groups -- as if any of these groups need to have their own government-trained army units.) Unit cohesion fails as these groups go freelance and compete for control of military resources. Fragging becomes common; and good officers become much harder to find. (Anybody with a college education will find something better and safer to do.) The goal of teaching them useful civilian life skills is quickly abandoned.

In the name of American foreign policy, these troops are exported to other countries, where they set up operations abroad -- thus bringing America's worst authoritarians to the the world's least stable corners, and giving them a prime government-subsidized opportunity to go global.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

Of course, the intended goal of this system is to keep recruits inside it until they're too old to do much damage. Once they do get out, though, the results look like another movie -- and this time, it's The Godfather.

Since these veterans have no connection to the larger culture -- and no way of getting the education that will outfit them for anything else besides war -- they have every incentive to organize themselves into civilian subsidiaries of the military gangs that sustained them. They get jobs as mercenaries working abroad for private armies and cartels. Or they come home and set up local outposts of this emerging global Mafia. Soon, city and state governments are dealing with a far bigger gang problem than they've ever seen before and are completely unprepared to confront. Turf battles -- or holy wars -- erupt between the race- and religion-based gangs. In some towns, the gangs muscle out small businesses, start up extortion rackets, run their own candidates and seize control of local politics. They also infiltrate whatever legitimate institutions will have them -- just as the Mafia took over unions and the construction trades on the East Coast so long ago. Modern prison gangs are small mom-and-pop operations compared to the vast global criminal network that could arise in time.

This sounds far-fetched, but it's the historical way of armies gone bad. When you have combat-hardened warriors who have no place in the civilian world -- and governments that feel no further responsibility to the troops that risked their lives to defend them -- they will make a place for themselves. And that place will usually be well beyond the reach of government.

The citizens respond:

There are several ways Americans might respond to the broken-down military that results from the boneheaded decision to abandon the covenant represented by the GI Bill. Let's look at the best case, the worst case, and the most likely case.

The best case is that Americans quickly realize that the military culture is fusing with the prison-based gang culture and that the combined forces are threatening the foundations of the country. Driving this case is the fact is that we don't generally fund government programs that only benefit people without political power. (That's why it's so important that even the rich get Social Security, and why the upper classes need to keep their kids in public schools.) As long as the most politically influential people see that these things benefit them, they'll support them. As soon as these programs look like they're just for the lower classes, the political will to sustain them vanishes.

Turning the military into a dumping ground for the unwanted underclass (not to mention a vast channel through which taxpayer dollars are funneled to organized crime) devalues it socially and politically. Nice people won't send their kids there, any more than they'd voluntarily send them to prison for three or four years. Nobody with any brains will want to become an officer, either. And when the blowback from this long-term neglect begins washing up on the tree-lined streets of America's suburbs, there could be strong political pressure to defund the military, reform it, or abolish a standing army entirely.

The worst case is that we don't act in time, and the gangs simply take over. The government is overwhelmed or corrupted. Democracy fails, along with domestic order. Security is in the hands of local strongmen. If that's the way it goes, the story begins to look like something out of Mad Max, and it will take nothing short of a violent patriot uprising to eliminate the gangs and take back the country. (And the bad news is: They have all the weapons and know how to use them.)

This scenario is scary. And it should be. Worst-case scenarios aren't fun for me to write, not least because they can so easily become grim and over the top. What I find most frightening about this one is that you don't have to be a futurist to see its plausibility; you just have to have read some history. Broken-down armies that come home and take it out on the home folks are as common as dirt. They're stock characters in the stories where revolutions begin and empires end. But we need to be aware that this could very easily happen to us -- and blowing off our commitment to the troops could be the first tangible step down that road.

The most likely case is that we come to our senses in time and realize that the GI Bill is not entitlement, not a privilege, and not a handout. It's what we owe our troops for their service. It's fulfilling our basic obligation to return them safely and sanely to civilian life, and to give them a fair stake in the country's free and democratic future. And as long as we choose to maintain a standing army and act as an empire, it's an essential investment in our own domestic peace, security, and political stability that we cannot afford to scrimp on. If we think the price is too high, then we should reconsider whether we want to be an empire. But as long as we commission soldiers, defaulting on this debt is not an option.

No one who is willing to tear up that ancient contract between a nation and its veterans, and thus consign our nation's defense to people so dangerously incompetent that Wal-Mart won't even hire them, should ever be this country's commander in chief. And McCain, of all people, should understand that better than anyone. It's a shame that, after all these years building his career on the backs of veterans, he still doesn't understand what's at stake.

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Sara Robinson, a 20-year veteran of Silicon Valley, is launching a second career as a strategic foresight analyst. When she's not studying change theories and reactionary movements, you can find her singing the alto part over at Orcinus. She lives in Vancouver, B.C., with her husband and two teenagers.

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 17, 2008 12:55 AM   
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I mean, ya really gotta wonder about a guy like that...

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There you have it
Posted by: Rolomax on Apr 17, 2008 4:35 AM   
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The military is a socialist endeavour, and the US can no longer afford it. What I mean, is, the military does not earn its keep when it comes to finances. They don't earn a profit, and they never have.

Look at the National Debt. It gets bigger, not smaller. The daily interest payment alone could pay for free Health Care for every citizen, and then it could pay for a huge military, and then some.

But no. It has to be paid back before it could do that, which means that it will not happen in my lifetime. Not my children's lifetime either.

McCain knows that, and yet look how he tries to cover it up. Next thing you know, he'll be blaming Hilary and Obama. At least they know that taxes are the only way to fix things. They know that tax breaks for America's owners are not the answer.

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Anything for the Vets
Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 17, 2008 5:56 AM   
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I understand McCains and the defense departments views re retention.. but honestly, someone serves their country, especially on a volunteer basis, they deserve the best we can give them. A college education is the least... I suspect the problem might also be Webb is sponsoring the bill.

A person I personally dislike for his personal attacks n our President I would be surprised if McCain is playing politics with Webb

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Another very good reason
Posted by: kentigereyes@yahoo.com on Apr 17, 2008 6:13 AM   
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that this way-too-old warmonger should not be president of the USA, and there are a lot of them. I have no love for hrc or bo, but this jerk will definitely get us in Iran, unless the despicably evil "w"/DICKY regime beats him to it. TFL, Ken

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US Military: Current Demographics
Posted by: bamaslama on Apr 17, 2008 7:41 AM   
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excerpts from:
Who Bears the Burden? Demographic Characteristics of U.S. Military Recruits Before and After 9/11
by Tim Kane, Ph.D.
Center for Data Analysis Report #05-08


"In summary, we found that, on average, 1999 recruits were more highly educated than the equiv­alent general population, more rural and less urban in origin, and of similar income status. We did not find evidence of minority racial exploitation (by race or by race-weighted ZIP code areas)."

"The household income of recruits generally matches the income distribution of the American population. There are slightly higher proportions of recruits from the middle class and slightly lower proportions from low-income brackets. However, the proportion of high-income recruits rose to a disproportionately high level after the war on ter­rorism began, as did the proportion of highly edu­cated enlistees."

"Table 2 is a summary of ZCTA data ranked in order of population quintiles. In 1999 and 2003, the recruits generally mirror the percent distribution among the population, but the pattern shows clearly that there were fewer recruits from the poorest quin­tile of neighborhoods[4] (18.0 percent) and fewer from the richest quintile (18.6 percent) in 1999. In 2003, however, only 14.6 percent of military recruits came from the poorest quintile, whereas the wealth­iest quintile provided 22.0 percent. Enlistments from wealthier areas surged, resulting in a 3.4 per­centage point upturn. The middle-class quintiles (the third and fourth wealthiest areas) consistently provided disproportionately high numbers of sol­diers in both year groups."

You make a good point when you say that McCain's non-support of Veterans will erode the quality of enlistees.

The simple way to prevent this is by voting Democrat in 2008!

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The train called logic
Posted by: crazy carlos on Apr 17, 2008 8:13 AM   
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My congradulations to the author. This is about the 3rd or 4th article I have read and they all follow the same track.

The American people always look for the easy way out when they think or in some manner, try to do it anway.

The author does what the vast majority of people do not, and that is take the argument to a final conclusion. Logic is a funny business, when you get on that train you don't have the luxury of riding it to the next station then get off--ya got to ride it clear to the end of the line to find out where the final destination is--like I said, we want quick and simple answers where there are none. Once you get on the train you can't just go from station A to B then get off, the world does not work that way. Actions have consequences and you had better understand what those consequences are before, not after you change course or initiate a new program.

I said it when the draft was halted in 72 it would be a nightmare much like what Sara has put forth. An article well done and well worth the time to ponder. Crazy carlos

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AH THE FALL
Posted by: magiquarian1969 on Apr 17, 2008 8:26 AM   
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I wonder if there will be a flash of white light????

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McCain is part of the fascist ruling elite..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 17, 2008 8:41 AM   
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Look McCain married money, big money and now he's just another rich elitist ass-hole deluxe like the rest of our Senate and much of our Congress the Ruling Elite..!

They want to return to a feudal system were we peons go die for them and the fascist corporations in they're corporate wars..which Iraq is a war fought for the Oil Companies and other military industrial complex entities..

We see McCain elitist attitude in the sub prime mortgage issue as well..!

He owns his wife I should say owns 8 homes so why should he give two shits about his fellow Americans his so called "Friends"..!

He comes from a family of privilege hell his father was head of pacific operations and ran the Vietnam war..same for his grandfather both admirals..so not that different from Bush sons of privilege..detached rich ass-holes..it's so simple..

McCain wants to distinguish himself by starting his own war not just Bush's little bullshit war but a big fucking war that's how e measures himself not through the maintaining the peace but starting a fucking war..!

So he doesn't want our troops serving and leaving the military he wants permanent legions like Rome..loyal to the Unitary Scumbaggery Doctrine and the corporate fascist new world order agenda..

Also there are no jobs for these young people our nations prosperity is being exported and the whole thing is run by the Bilderberg Group and the rest of the secretive elitist fascist groups such as the Tri-Lateral Commission and here within America so as to undo the American Revolution the Federalist Society swine who already control our Supreme Court and have infested and taken over the Justice Dept...and brought it to shame disgrace and ridicule..

Lieberman runs McCain and is his handler McCain has surrendered to foreign powers and an internationalist agenda he gone so far from being a patriotic American first he doesn't even realize it..

I am resigned that he will also win the 2008 election due to the Democrats being so idiotic to gamble everything after all these years of Bush's Fascist Unitary tyranny with these two suspect flawed dubious iffy candidates who leave so much to be desired and show no sign of fostering any real change they will not even speak of the real threats to our nation and or the corporate fascism we now suffer under..

Has Obama ever once mentioned corporate "personhood" hell no and he won't so keep on believing whatever you like but with 14 states having no paper record to check or recount votes and the Federalist Society in control of the Justice Dept. and Supreme Court you think this will be a fair and honest election with what's at stake, do you think corporate fascists won't steal another election..do you think Bush won't attack Iran for even only national political reasons alone to maintain power for his party and the ruling elite..

Wake the hell up America..this is no longer a democracy never was and now we are going to lose the Republic for good if Bush evokes NSPD-51 and or HSPD-20 after any emergency he creates..and then McCain steps in and it's over we'll never recover from this..

Never..!

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The Troops
Posted by: Southern Gal on Apr 17, 2008 9:18 AM   
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These troops who go perform their assigned duties and risk their lives deserve a GI bill that helps them upon their return to society, in particular with healthcare and education. Our country certainly puts enough money into weapons development and support of the military industrial complex. The people components of the armed services deserve to have money invested in them as well. From the lack of proper equipment to the shoddy treatment when they return home in terms of obtaining treatment for mental and physical health issues, it is clear that there is less regard for these people than for corporations who get rich in war. This caring for the people part of the war machine is a valid expenditure and should be an important part of the military budget.

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here's a free tip
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on Apr 17, 2008 9:37 AM   
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Don't enlist.

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Where are the *burned out* Soldiers? the ones who crack & refuse orders?
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Apr 17, 2008 9:50 AM   
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you NEVER HEAR ABOUT THEM...

...are they in military jail overseas?
...are they simply drugged until they fight again?
...what about the mental twisting of chronic stress that historically draws out sexual abuse on fellow combatants (ie., Lawrence of Arabia was raped)

...or are they one of the 17 US veterans who commit suicide daily? (see MotherJones & Democracy Now! KBR rape victim interviews)

Female US soldiers die of thirst, fearing latrine rape by comrades testimony by Janice Karpinsky.

SSRIs used in War Theater... you heard me. selective seretonin re-uptake inhibitors.

used to keep the Troops reliably shoot'n...

"Forced to Fight", the story of War: yet SSRIs used in Iraq & Afghan War Theatre... you don't *alleviate* anything if you simply drug people past their psychological stressors... if you don't ever relieve the stressors & traumas...

gee, could this be why Afghans talk about how American troops are scary because they're moody & trigger-happy?

that & the **steroids** abuse... gee, that'll make ya stable...

Screaming In An Empty Room: Potent Mixture: Zoloft & A Rifle

Nazis on Steroids - That's just great

How Nazis used amphetamines / meth (Pervetin) to keep their troops reliably 'fight'n'...

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Really hate to say this,but:
Posted by: donl51 on Apr 17, 2008 10:16 AM   
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and from a Vietnam war veteran no less,I used to have a decent amount of respect for that man,spending all those years as a POW while I spent 26.5 months dealing w/ it in-country,until I starting picking up these little things about the man!When I got out in '67 ,I became an activist joining a anti-war vets group and actively campaigning against our involvement in a wrong reasoned war,I'd eventually heard of now Senator Kerry back in the '70's but of course knew nothing of Mc Cain until much later! I look at him today w/ absolutely no respect,as I once wrote before ,he missed a good part of the war and now wants one of his own, as far as being a veteran, I must ask of what exactly? Civilian politician who has totally lost track of what being in the milatary is like and being wounded forever! ,No Mr. McCain, to this vet you sir are not one! nor should you use that honor to further your position!....you sicken me!

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McCain is a politician, not a patriot.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 17, 2008 3:11 PM   
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There is no excuse for John McCain NOT supporting war veterans. That attitude alone disqualies him as commander in chief.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com, the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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Nothing IS Too Good for Our Veterans
Posted by: anambrose on Apr 17, 2008 9:50 PM   
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Now you can see the class difference between a shooter and a pilot. Pilots get beaten and tortured (and that'll be even more common with the bums running the show now) but generally kept alive as human capital for political bargaining chips if they're unlucky enough to get shot down but lucky enough to live. Grunts get tortured to provide grisly gore filled entertainment before they're killed. It does not matter that for each $1 spent on the original GI Bill returned $7 to $10 on investment. We have people in our country who have a black hole inside that no amount of wealth, power,and prestige can fill and they call the shots and wish to dismantle every gain paid for in blood made since 1932 because with all they have it is still not enough. McCain is just doing their bidding and he knows he's just hired help but from where he sits his position does not look so bad. That's how clueless he is. He's just another enraged true believer that another hundred billion and a million more lives could've won Vietnam so we continue to bleed in Iraq and break our military lose bin Laden and Afghanistan. Break the social contract? They've been wiping their ass with Our Constitution and it won't stop as long as the money keeps rolling in. Unless America flushes the tranquilizers and gets angry enough to feel some real pain that will be the status quo.

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Are you missing the point?
Posted by: jontan88 on Apr 18, 2008 8:59 AM   
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It's not about the veterans. Republicans could care less about them except when it needs to use them for political purposes. It's about the fact that it cannot allow the Democratic controlled Congress to pass anything worthwhile so that it would be cast in a bad light as a "do-nothing" Congress, much like how the Republicans were so that voters would decide that the Dems are as useless as they are thereby "levelling" the advantage the Dems currently have. That's about it. There's ALWAYS a political motive with the "must-win-at-all-costs" Republican Party. It doesn't matter how much money is spent on a useless occupation, how many people have to die, it's all about "winning"... elections and maintaining power.

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Do you know what the GI Bill is?
Posted by: bu on Apr 18, 2008 2:43 PM   
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it would appear from the posts that few, if any, have even a remote knowledge of the GI Bill and other benefits Soldiers recieve upon completeion of thier obligation. Currently, if they choose to do so, thier 4-year degree is nearly completely paid for. Soliders also have the option to take college while on active duty and the Army foots the entire bill. Do some research before posting, it bolsters your argument.

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McCain's position is easy to understand
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 21, 2008 6:38 PM   
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He got his. Screw everybody else.

See? Simple.

Ian

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