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Clinton Overblowing Her Role in Irish Peace Accords Says Historian

By David Corn, MotherJones.com. Posted April 15, 2008.


Hillary's assertion that she had played an "instrumental" part of the peace process in Ireland doesn't have basis in the facts.
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Last week, Hillary Clinton released a statement celebrating the tenth anniversary of the historic Good Friday Agreement that led to peace in Northern Ireland. She noted,

Ultimately, the real credit for peace can only go to the brave people of Northern Ireland, as well as the leaders of Ireland and the U.K. But I also know that helping to advance the peace process and to achieve the Good Friday Agreement is one of my husband's proudest accomplishments as President. And I too am proud to have played a role in that effort.

The statement -- and Clinton's assertion that she had been part of the peace process -- did not draw much media notice, a sign that her Irish troubles might have eased. Last month, the Barack Obama campaign had challenged her claim to have "helped to bring peace to Northern Island." And that triggered a transatlantic tempest. David Trimble, the former First Minister of the Northern Ireland, called Clinton "a wee bit silly" for claiming to have been a figure of an importance in the peace process:

She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don't want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player.

But then Clinton's campaign posted on its website a statement from John Hume, who shared the 1998 Nobel Peace Prize with Trimble, in which Hume declared: "I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland." And Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams told the Irish Times that Clinton played an important role in the peace process. I met the senator on many occasions ... .I always found her to be extremely well-informed on the issues."

These endorsements from Hume and Adams did not fully support the claims from Clinton and her camp that she had been a significant participant in the Irish peace process. On NPR, she had said, "I wasn't sitting at the negotiating table, but the role I played was instrumental." And appearing on CNN on March 4, Terry McAuliffe, her campaign chairman, had said, "We would not have peace today had it not [been] for Hillary's hard work in Northern Ireland." Still, Hume's and Adams' statements did somewhat counter Trimble's dismissive remarks. And the campaign flare-up flared down.

But what was the truth? Had Clinton been instrumental? Was McAuliffe correct to say Northern Ireland would today be a bloody landscape had it not been for Clinton? Looking for an expert on the Irish peace process, I contacted Paul Bew. He is a prominent -- perhaps the most prominent -- historian of Northern Ireland. A professor at Queen's University Belfast, Bew last year published Ireland: The Politics of Enmity 1789-2006, a much-acclaimed work, which is part of the Oxford University Press's Modern Europe series. He once was an adviser to Trimble, and he was appointed to the House of Lords in 2007, in recognition of his own contributions to the Good Friday Agreement.

When I asked Bew about Clinton's claim, he chuckled and replied: "There is a simple point to be made." He referred me to a new book by Jonathan Powell, Great Hatred, Little Room: Making Peace in Northern Ireland. Powell was chief of staff to British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and his book, which has been a sensation in England, is an insider's account of the peace talks that led to the Good Friday Agreement. Look at the index of this book for "Hillary Clinton," Bew told me. There is, he said, "only one reference to Hillary Clinton." Bew was right about that. That one citation refers the read to a tangential anecdote in which Powell mistakes a female Secret Service agent assigned to First Lady Clinton for a friend (Nancy Soderberg, a national security aide in the Clinton White House) and cheekily asks for a kiss. "That's it," Bew said. "The only reference to Hillary Clinton in this detailed blow-by-blow account. This is more telling than any other particular point .... It is very revealing."

Powell's book aside, I asked Bew, whose own book covers the Irish peace accords (and who also published a collection of his real-time journalistic accounts of the Good Friday Agreement), how he assessed Clinton's claim to have been "instrumental" in bringing peace to Northern Ireland. "She just was not there," he said. "Calling her instrumental is silly....I can't think of anything to be said for the case that she had a major role."

For the moment, this campaign controversy appears to be done. But if Clinton's Irish troubles return, perhaps the definitive -- and last -- word can go to the guys who wrote the books.


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David Corn is the Washington editor of The Nation and the co-author of Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War and is the author of The Lies of George W. Bush. He writes a blog at davidcorn.com.

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Hillary Clinton is a Lying Narcissist
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Apr 15, 2008 1:54 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
There is a pattern here. Hillary Clinton plays up her role on the Senate Watergate Committee but leaves out that she was fired for unethical behavior. She plays up her role as First Lady in Arkansas and leaves out her role on the Wal-Mart board creating low wage, no-benefit jobs and using unfair tactics to destroy competitors now that she is posing as a friend to the working person. She mentions the Clinton Administration's economic record but leaves out that almost all of the gains went to the top quintile, now that she's portraying Obama as an elitist. She plays up her role as a peacemaking heroine in Kosovo, arriving to sniper fire, when the peace had already been made and she had a cordial reception.

Below are the diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder, a serious form of psychopathology. To my assessment she meets all nine criteria, while only 5 are needed to make the diagnosis.

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

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Still coddling Obama, still attacking Hillary
Posted by: johnp on Apr 15, 2008 5:03 AM   
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You have two stories connected with the Hillary/Barack debate, and the score is 2 for Obama, 2 against
Clinton.

Obama has lied as often as Hillary, so your storytelling is biased nonsense. But no amount of revealing this to you, will change your behavior, because your biases are irrational, stubborn and stupid.

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He said she said..
Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 15, 2008 5:28 AM   
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Please..who cares. we all know that politicians lie or at best stretch the truth a bit.. this story has no bearing on the election... and it pales in comparison to Obama sitting in church, ears covered, never listening to his pastor or his misstatements about rural America. It Can we be a bit more objective and balanced in the stories presented.

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I'm Amazed!!
Posted by: rickiey on Apr 15, 2008 7:28 AM   
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Gee, this is the first time that Hillary Clinton has said something that turned out to be not exactly 100% true.

Maybe since her her history has been completely vetted and this is the first thing that she has said that might be mistaken for a lie, perhaps we can forgive it and support her anyway? She's a politician after all, can't we forgive one little slip?

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» RE: I'm Amazed!! Posted by: Longdream
Rightwing ties are more important than campaign lies.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 15, 2008 7:25 AM   
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Having spent several years researching the neocon/New World Order/CFR/NED/PNAC connections, I am more concerned about Hillary's intimate relationship to the America's Rightwing Power Elite than her propensity to stretch the truth.

As they say in Texas where I went to college (A&M), "People who sleep with dogs catch fleas."

In the coming months when appropriate, I will share my findings with fellow Alterneters. Meanwhile, I urge all freedom-loving bloggers to do their own resarch into Hillary and Bill's neoconservative, anti-American NWO alliances. For a starting point, first study Bill Kristol's rightwing extremist organization, PNAC (Project for a New American Century).

For a list of 225 PNAC signatories, including Democrat big wigs like Global Greed Queen Madeleine Albright who sits on the CFR Board of Directors with other PNAC signatories (such as Vin Weber who directs the NED), visit my investigative website, www.FreedomCentralUSA.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com, the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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What a load of rowlocks
Posted by: John Annis on Apr 15, 2008 7:38 AM   
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Anybody wondering about the relevance of Hillary to Northern Ireland should come over to this side of the pond and ask someone - anyone - what they recall of her involvement.

The response will be a blank stare and a laugh. If you're lucky.

She has always been a blowhard (heh) but this latest effort really takes the biscuit. I suppose next she will be claiming she invented the internet.

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Mr. Corn, your story did not substantiate your conclusion
Posted by: DRANNAN on Apr 15, 2008 10:33 AM   
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Mr. Corn, neither you nor I, know for a FACT, Senator Clinton's role.

You base your assumption that she was not "instrumental" on two or three quotes. One from David Trimble, the former First Minister of the Northern Ireland, who called her claim "a wee bit silly. John Hume, who was a co-winner of the Nobel Peace Prize with Trimble, had a different take, "I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland."

Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams told the Irish Times that Hillary Clinton, "played an important role in the peace process. I met the senator on many occasions...I always found her to be extremely well-informed on the issues."

You reference two books, one from Jonathan Powell who was chief of staff to British Prime Minister Tony Blair. His book index "has only one reference to Hillary Clinton" which refers to "a tangential anecdote in which Powell mistakes a female Secret Service agent assigned to First Lady Clinton for a friend." It is a big stretch to cite that as being relevant to making your case. I'd call that silly.

You quote Northern Ireland historian Paul Bew. Bew told you. "She just was not there." I think Bew's statement is silly. And, untrue. Bew went on to say, "Calling her instrumental is silly..."

You say that Bew was once an adviser to Trimble.
Both Bew and Trimble seem to be on the same wavelength. They both throw the "silly" word around. Maybe they don't want to give credit to the Clintons because it would diminish their own role.

I suggest you read a few more quotes from people who WERE there.

Go to: Irish Echo Online--Hillary's Irish Legacy
Prominent backers cite relevant role in peace process
By Ray O'Hanlon

linked text

Here are just a few of the quotes:

"She visited Northern Ireland, met with very many people and gave very decisive support to the peace process. In private she made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward," said Hume.

In a series of statements compiled by labor and fair employment advocate Inez McCormack, Clinton was lauded for her "decade-long support" of the peace process.

"We believe it is important for others to know the pivotal role Mrs. Clinton played in helping us in Northern Ireland at critical junctures in the peace process. She supported us over many years and we will always be grateful to her," said McCormack

Similar testimonies have been forthcoming from other women, Protestant and Catholic. They include prominent community worker Elaine Crozier, Baroness May Blood, a member of the British House of Lords, Geraldine McAteer, chief executive of the West Belfast Partnership Board, Avila Kilmurray, head of the Community Foundation for Northern Ireland...."

"Her iconic address to the first Vital Voices conference in Belfast in 1998 was truly inspirational and her ongoing support for women's role in peace building and the transformation of economic and political life in the North was manifested through other initiatives and her own personal involvement," stated McVey..."

That 1998 visit to the North was just one of seven undertaken by Clinton between 1995 and 2004, both with president Clinton and on her own. In addition, Clinton has hosted numerous visitors from both communities in the North on American soil.

A precise accounting of Clinton's visits to Ireland and her work for Irish peace forms the basis for a book being published later this year by Stella O'Leary, Washington. D.C.-based president of the Irish American Democrats lobby group.

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"Renaissance Weekend": secret meeting place for America's Power Elite
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 15, 2008 11:30 AM   
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Renaissance Weekends (RW) are private, invitation-only retreats for leaders in business and finance, government, the media, religion, medicine, science, technology and the arts. Conversations are strictly off the record and subject matter ranges widely, tending to focus heavily on policy and business issues.

David Keene, a rightwing Republican involved in the American Conservative Union, described RW this way:. "So many people are busy networking for their own advantage that it's something of a pain. Initially, I think (RW) envisioned something that was sort of a fun, but also intellectually and personally stimulating, weekend. But it became very quickly a sort of way that these people could help each other rise to power."

Bill and Hillary Clinton have attended 10 RW retreats which may explain how they "earned" $109 million since 2000.

The past and present RW advisory board of both Democrats and Republicans includes the following elitist power brokers, corporate heads, educators and media personalities:

William Jefferson Clinton
Gerald R. Ford
Julia Chang Bloch (GOP--President, U.S.-China Education Trust/Former U.S. Ambassador to Nepal)
Rita Braver (TV News Correspondent)
Louis Cabot (Former Chm., Cabot Corp. & Brookings Institution)
Hodding Carter (President, Knight Foundation/Former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State)
Steve Case (Former Chm., AOL Time Warner)
Joie Chen (TV News Correspondent)
Wesley Clark (Former Supreme Allied Commander, NATO)
Gordon Conway (President, Rockefeller Foundation)
James Cronin (Director, Enrico Fermi Laboratories/Physics Nobel Laureate)
Craig Fields (Former Chm., Defense Science Board & Director, D.A.R.P.A)
Howard Fineman (Chief Political Correspondent, Newsweek/TV Commentator)
Millard Fuller (Founder, Habitat for Humanity)
Gordon Gee (President, Vanderbilt University)
David Gergen (Former Presidential Advisor/Editor-at-large, U.S. News & World Report)
Bob Graham (U.S. Senator & Florida Governor)
Sir Jeremy Greenstock (Former British Ambassador to the United Nations)
Amy Gutmann (President, University of Pennsylvania)
Arianna Huffington (Political Commentator)
Myron Kandel (Former Financial Editor, CNN)
Rosabeth Moss Kanter (Professor, Harvard Business School/Author, World Class)
Rich Karlgaard (Publisher, Forbes)
William Kennard (Partner, Carlyle Group/Former Chm., Federal Communications Commission)
Frank Luntz (Political Consultant)
Fred Malek (Chm., Thayer Capital)
Sir Deryck Maughan (Chm., Citigroup International)
Newton Minow (Former Chm., F.C.C. & RAND Corp.)
Leslie Moonves (Chm., CBS)
Jay Nordlinger (Managing Editor, National Review)
Peter Norton (Creator, Norton Utilities)
Norman Ornstein (Resident Scholar, American Enterprise Institute)
Deval Patrick (Frmr. U.S. Asst. Atty.-General, & Gen. Counsel, Texaco and Coca-Cola Companies)
William Perry (Former U.S. Secretary of Defense)
David Pottruck (Former Chief Executive Officer, Charles Schwab Corp./Co-Author, Clicks & Mortar)
Diane Sawyer (TV News Host)
Robert Schuller II (Minister)
Christopher Shays (U.S. Congressman)
John Templeton, Jr. (President, Templeton Foundation)
Richard Thornburgh (GOP/PNAC signatory, Former U.S. Attorney-General & Pennsylvania Governor)
Richard Viguerie (GOP/Rightwing extremist, former Publisher, Conservative Digest)

Murray Weidenbaum (Former Chm., Pres. Reagan's Council of Economic Advisers)
Marina von Neumann Whitman (Frmr. Member, President Nixon's Council of Economic Advisers)

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Let's be fair
Posted by: RobNLA on Apr 15, 2008 2:17 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm not a fan of Hillary but let's be fair here. This does not appear be a Bosnia sniper fire type of thing.

Hillary did meet with and speak to many people involved in the peace process many times. So she did play a role there.

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SOME Irish People Disagree
Posted by: hysperia on Apr 15, 2008 2:38 PM   
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Funny. Nuala O'Faolain who writes for the Irish "Sunday Tribune" and who has written for other Irish newspapers and who has written several books and who was THERE along with those narcissistic men who think they are the only ones who count, has this to say about Hillary Clinton's role in the peacemaking process in Ireland:

"What Hillary did to transform matters was turn up. She turned up. She turned up with hope and energy to a city which, when I moved there in 1998, was leaving one murdered Catholic a week just on my street, merely to keep the level of intimidation going. A city where women were almost all tribally opposed to each other. A city where there were very few meetings and if they were women's meetings they were jeered at or ignored. She came at least four times with President Clinton—and twice on her own.

It may sound small to people now that what she came for was a woman's conference on one occasion and a lecture on another, that she knew people's names and histories and took note of them—and was no doubt sometimes lied to and misled and laughed at by women as well as men (outsiders often strike skeptical locals as simpleminded).

But she kept turning up anyway.

It was not small what she did.

Not small at all.

When the old guys obediently trot out their criticisms of what she did in Belfast, ask yourself: Who else did what she did? Who else gave what she did? Who else gave at all?

Even today, when it is all over, I don't know whether even Hillary Rodham Clinton knows how much someone like me thanks her—how aware I still am of what her bright, friendly, caring presence meant, when despair was very near."

And more at: http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/031008.html

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At Least She's Blowing Something
Posted by: radical53 on Apr 15, 2008 4:14 PM   
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But seriously folks, she's also blowing this election and her political career.

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Kinda like ...
Posted by: colek on Apr 15, 2008 6:28 PM   
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Bush overblows his attendance in the TX ANG?

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BLAH,BLAH,BLAH
Posted by: mindtrvlr on Apr 15, 2008 11:05 PM   
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More negative Hillary crap!!!!

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Jack
Posted by: Jackdemocracy08 on Apr 30, 2008 4:05 AM   
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