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Does the Conservative Movement's Crack-Up Spell Doom for McCain?

By Rick Perlstein, The Nation. Posted April 14, 2008.


The conservative noise machine is coming around to support him -- if it can keep its stories straight.

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Back when the Republican presidential race was still competitive, the insults against John McCain from leading conservative voices were so extravagant they almost constituted a new literary genre. Rush Limbaugh said McCain threatened "the American way of life as we've always known it." McCain's Senate colleague Thad Cochran said, "The thought of him as President sends a cold chill down my spine." Ann Coulter charged the most unforgivable sin of all: McCain was, in fact, "a Democrat." Coulter's employer, Fox News, seconded the smear on February 7 by printing the words "John McCain (D-AZ)" under footage of the Arizona Republican.

That day was no ordinary one in the history of McCain-hate. On that afternoon, most of these figures' preferred candidate, Mitt Romney, announced at CPAC, the big annual conservative conference in Washington, that he was dropping out of the race. McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee, was booed. The next morning the conservative magazine Human Events sent out a weekly roundup of its top ten stories to its e-mail list. Eight were anti-McCain jeremiads. One called the McCain ascendancy "the new Axis of Evil." Michael Reagan's article "John McCain Hates Me" posited a "huge gap that separates McCain -- whose contempt for his fellow humans is patently obvious -- and my dad, Ronald Reagan," and concluded, "He has contempt for conservatives who he thinks can be duped into thinking he's one of them."

Michael Reagan, for one, would not be duped. He would not defile his father's sacred memory. At least for a week. Eight days later Reagan's article for Human Events argued, "Assuming that John McCain will be the Republican nominee, you can bet my father would be itching to get out on the campaign trail working to elect him even if he disagreed with him on a number of issues."

Such are the strange McCain contortions Republicans have been forcing themselves into in recent weeks. Tom DeLay used to fret that he "might have to sit this one out" if McCain won the nomination. Now he's stumping for the presumptive nominee with apparent enthusiasm. At a March 1 "Reagan Day" dinner (Republicans used to call them "Lincoln Day" dinners), Texas Senator John Cornyn likened the base's swing to McCain to the grieving process: "You come to acceptance."

But what is it that made supporting a senator who has earned an 83 lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union and votes with his party 88.3 percent of the time feel like mourning in the first place? They weren't this hard, after all, on fair-weather conservatives Bob Dole in 1996 or George H.W. Bush in 1988 and 1992, were they?

Conservatism is, among many other things, a culture. The most important glue binding it together is a shared sense of cultural grievance -- the conviction, uniting conservatives high and low, theocratic and plutocratic, neocon and paleocon, that someone, somewhere is looking down their noses at them with a condescending sneer. And to conservatives, McCain has been too often one of the sneerers. It is, as much as anything else, a question of affect. As Michael Reagan wrote, "I don't like the way he treats people. You get the impression that he thinks everybody is beneath him."

They are not entirely imagining things. Birds fly, fish swim, McCain preens: it has ever been thus. His preening has turned the thin-skinned crypt-keepers of conservatism hysterical. "McCain's apostasies," Charles Krauthammer recently wrote in the Washington Post, "are too numerous to count." They aren't, really. Some conservatives still call the Republican nominee "Juan" McCain, for what Reagan calls "such blatantly anti-conservative actions as his support for amnesty for illegal immigrants." But of course Reagan's sainted father, in signing the 1986 immigration bill, was a more unapologetic and effective advocate of "amnesty" than McCain ever was -- and you don't hear him getting labeled "Ronaldo" Reagan. Note, also, that other supposed bugaboo of conservative ideology: pork-barrel government spending. McCain is the Senate's leading fighter against spending earmarks. If pork was what they truly cared about, he'd be a hero. But that stance has earned him no points on the "conservative" side of the ledger.

The issues aren't the issue. George Stephanopoulos once asked Tom DeLay what it was conservatives demanded of McCain, and DeLay admitted as much: "I don't think they're demanding that he change in his position," he said. "It is attitude."

In other words: it's the ring-kissing, stupid. Consider George H.W. Bush's attitude: he all but groveled before conservatives -- first calling supply-side doctrine "voodoo economics," then swallowing hard and accepting a spot as voodoo priest Reagan's running mate. Bob Dole, formerly a proud budget balancer, lay prostrate before them in accepting a 15 percent across-the-board tax cut as the cornerstone of his 1996 presidential platform, then took on movement hero Jack Kemp as his running mate.

For conservative leaders, making candidates pay them court, publicly and ostentatiously, is a colossal source of their symbolic power before their followers. It's kabuki theater, mostly. Ronald Reagan never did much to make abortion illegal. He did, however, deliver videotaped greetings, fulsome in praise for his hosts, to antiabortion rallies on the Mall. Pentecostal leaders were horrified to see George W. Bush violate what they considered biblical prophesy by giving over the Gaza Strip to the Palestinians in 2004. After they made their dismay known, Bush did not change his mind. He did, however, send top White House and National Security Council staffers to flatter them in a private meeting that concluded, according to an account one of the pastors sent to his followers, "with a heart-moving send-off of the President in his Presidential helicopter." Rings kissed, egos assuaged -- and these particular Pentecostals stopped complaining about the sacrilege. The issue wasn't the issue.

For decades, the operative theory in Republican politics has been that there exists a seething mass of lockstep conservative voters controlled by leaders like these, without whose support no Republican can win a presidential election. Michael Reagan puts it this way: "If [McCain] gets the nomination the only way he could win against Hillary or Barack Obama would be to be part of a McCain-Limbaugh ticket." But that's certainly never been reflected in any actual electoral data. Indeed, this year it appears that conservative opinion leaders are more out of touch with the masses they purport to lead than ever. According to a recent CBS poll, only 17 percent of Republicans want an uncompromising conservative as their nominee. Eighty percent of Republicans are satisfied with McCain. Sixty percent of conservative primary voters say they "want a candidate who would compromise with Democrats in order to get things done."

McCain has called their bluff. He didn't suck up to Rush Limbaugh but won the nomination anyway; he's also faring well in general election matchups. He has shown that the kingmakers have no clothes. The humiliation is hard to forgive. It has made it harder for conservative leaders to do business and turned politicians like McCain (and Arnold Schwarzenegger), in their eyes, into monsters. On Glenn Beck's CNN show, for instance, Democratic consultant Peter Fenn pointed out that the reason McCain does well with voters is that "they think he is independent."

"Yes," Beck replied, "well, so is Dr. Frankenstein."

Kind of gives the game away: in their mind, these conservative leaders create Republican Presidents. But what's the point if GOP candidates are just going to go crashing around the countryside doing whatever the hell they want?

And so the professional conservatives did their best to set loose the torch-bearing mob. Late in January, former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum made call after call after call spreading the word that, yes, even a President Hillary Clinton or a President Barack Obama would be better than a President McCain. At one point, according to Democratic activist Mike Lux, who overheard an indiscreet Santorum making such calls on the New York-DC Metroliner, Santorum attempted to talk an interlocutor into "coming out with a terrible story about McCain from five or six years ago." Clearly the crusade to sabotage McCain didn't work. Professional conservative Monica Crowley finally admitted the obvious: "A lot of people have actually voted for McCain, and they weren't just moderates and independents. Enough Republicans have voted for him to give him the nomination -- and yes, a decent number of conservatives have too."

The frustration has been palpable. There was, for instance, the incident with radio host Bill Cunningham. Cunningham had warmed up a partisan crowd before a McCain speech in Cincinnati by barking out Obama's infamous middle name, Hussein. When McCain later "learned" about the remark, he pronounced himself shocked, shocked -- and said he'd never met Cunningham in his life. Republicans have been choreographing such stylized minuets for so long now -- the "grassroots conservative" gets the smears "out there," the "establishment" candidate distances himself from them, everyone emerges all the stronger -- that the steps have become implicit. But Cunningham pretended to have forgotten the dance. He went on TV and complained that, of course he had met McCain several times before, and that of course McCain's handlers had told him to throw the crowd "red meat."

But everyone couldn't abandon McCain. If the Democrats won the presidency, after all, the country would see, as Human Events's Bret Winterble warned, "Obama socializing entire corporate sectors." Republicans were stuck with McCain. So what would happen next?

Conservatives started to pivot publicly in the middle of February. It may have had something to do with reports that McCain gave in to what Robert Novak identified as the negotiating terms of "elements of the Republican Party's right wing": "first, that McCain would veto any tax increase passed by a Democratic Congress; second, that he would not emulate Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush in naming liberal Supreme Court Justices such as John Paul Stevens and David Souter." It may also have something to do with McCain's bowing down before the conservative holy grail of super-harsh enforcement-first immigration reform.

Or, if my theory is correct, the conservative turnabout may have less to do with any particular policy pledges than with an ostentatious shift in apparent attitude: a show of groveling before the professional conservatives. "I've listened and learned," ran McCain's Super Tuesday radio ads announcing he'd seen the light on immigration: "No one will be rewarded for illegal behavior." Note the language. "Listening" is precisely the word the angriest professional conservatives use most when describing McCain's attitude problem. "He promises to hear, not to listen," Human Events editor Jed Babbin complained. "I am appalled by his contempt for the intelligence of his listeners," Michael Reagan moaned in his column.

We may never know how these meetings went down. Something, however, seems to have shifted in those days following CPAC. Jack Kemp, the man who was made Bob Dole's 1996 running mate as a sop to conservatives, penned an open letter to right-wing talk-radio on February 11, arguing that for conservatives to sit petulantly on their hands this fall would turn over the nation to "those who would weaken our nation's defense, wave a white flag to al-Qaida, socialize our health-care system, and promote income redistribution and class warfare instead of economic growth and equality of opportunity." He even, rather comically, compared McCain to another "well-known maverick" conservatives once foolishly turned against: Winston Churchill. "He was even banned from talk radio (aka the BBC) in those days," Kemp wrote.

Then, fortuitously, in the third week of February, just as the floodgates for McCain's redemption were opening, came an exposé of his alleged favors to an attractive blond lobbyist -- from dreaded bête noire of conservatives, the New York Times. That offered the fig leaf to erstwhile McCain-haters who wished to make the pivot to party loyalty and still save face. It was no accident, they claimed, that it had been the people Jed Babbin called in another context "the hyperliberal editors of the New York Times" who had engineered the man's downfall. "The New York Times is trying to Swift Boat McCain," trumpeted one Republican strategist. "This is the first real salvo of the general election." An RNC letter sent, among other places, to the Human Events e-mail list blared, "The New York Times has proven once again that the liberal mainstream media will do whatever it takes to put Senator Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in the White House." Mac-Lash: Times Slime Boo$ts McCain, declared the New York Post headline on a story of the fundraising blip that ensued.

To which a citizen of the reality-based community might reasonably ask: why would the editors at the Times -- a paper that hired McCain's most consistent and aggressive backer in the conservative opinion firmament, Bill Kristol, as a columnist -- "Swiftboat" a candidate they had endorsed for the Republican nomination?

How naïve you are. "The media picked the GOP's candidate," explained Rush Limbaugh, "and is now, with utter predictability, trying to destroy him." Shock-talker Laura Ingraham helpfully elaborated: "You wait until it's pretty much beyond a doubt that he's going to be the Republican nominee, and then you let it drop." The Times conspiracy was so immense and manifestly evil that even McCain's sworn rival, Mike Huckabee, found it in his heart to denounce it.

So the right is finally rowing more or less in the same direction, right? Not so fast. Newsmax.com on the day of CPAC, approvingly quoting Limbaugh, added to the anti-McCain thunder this way: "We are sick and tired of how the people who seem to be triumphing in our party are precisely the people who seem to be selling this party out in terms of its ideology." Four days later, McCain's nomination guaranteed, Newsmax, whose e-mail list of millions of names makes it much more influential than elite outlets like National Review or The Weekly Standard, attempted an awkward 180-degree twist. It quoted the testimony of a left-wing British writer, Jonathan Hari -- identified as an "editorial board member of The Liberal magazine," so he must be speaking for Liberal Central Command -- saying that McCain's "credentials as a 'bipartisan progressive' are in fact a 'lazy, hazy myth' ... 'The truth is that McCain is the candidate we should most fear.'"

See? The liberals hate him. So it's safe for us to like him.

But conservatism, like I say, is a business. You know you never get an e-mail from Newsmax editors without them trying to sell you something. What they were selling this time was a previous issue of their magazine with a McCain story on the cover. The piece was called "Inside McCain's Head," and it retold the far right's favorite former story about the man: that he's a Manchurian candidate whose true loyalties ultimately belong to the enemy. Newsmax hadn't even bothered to change the advertising copy now that former foe was friend: "In this eye-opening report on McCain Newsmax magazine delves into: How McCain charmed Manhattan's media elites with an exclusive fete that pundits say 'launched' his 2008 campaign for the White House ... "Why Paul Weyrich thinks McCain isn't the right man for the White House ... "McCain's 14-hour stints at the Las Vegas craps tables."

We like to think of the American right as a finely honed mechanism -- a "conservative noise machine." And most times over the previous decade, the metaphor worked. But these days, the movement can no longer keep its stories straight. It reminds me of the McCain website the day after the New York Times lobbying exposé, the same day the RNC sent out its fundraising letter accusing the Times of electioneering for the Democrats. To anyone who might doubt that the good old conservative machine is overheating from the confusion and strain, here is proof that the noisemakers had clearly neglected to coordinate their anti-Times fundraising push with the McCain campaign. For there was the Times endorsement on its website that same day, bold as brass.

The gears of the contraption are jamming. Let the contortions of a Michael Reagan or a Newsmax attest to that, if nothing else. The whole machine had always been built on a series of bluffs: that once the malign hand of the liberals was removed from the executive, legislative and judicial branches, our new conservative Jerusalem would be achieved. But something remarkable occurred in the five years between 2001 and 2006: for the first time since the rise of the modern conservative movement with the nomination of Barry Goldwater in 1964, then the rise of Newt Gingrich's revolutionaries in 1994, the right had a chance to control all three branches of government -- to actually run the country. Naught but obvious failures have been the result: a crashing economy, a rotting infrastructure, a failed war and a less safe world, more Americans saying their nation is on the wrong track than at any time since pollsters started measuring.

In the face of all this, the conservative movement has kept on trying to do the only thing it knows how to do: sell conservatism. Saner heads in the Republican Party, meanwhile, have done their darnedest to put forward a presidential prospect who might let the party distance itself, if only rhetorically, from the disaster that conservatism in power has proved to be.

But without "conservatism" as the core narrative, the Republican Party doesn't know how to tell any stories at all. Its confusion over how to talk about McCain is only the symptom. The conservative era is over -- if you want it.

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Doom for McCain ? Absolutely Not !
Posted by: mmckinl on Apr 14, 2008 1:14 AM   
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The right wing noise machine will console it self by swift boating who ever the Democratic nominee might be ...

At any rate, the new president will clearly be beholden to "Corpoarte America" and the Wall Street Mafioso.

The Corporatocracy has used up the conservative movement and will be paying for Billl Clinton II. More free trade, more loopholes, more subsidies, more power for the private bankers AKA: The Fed and new financial regulation that will look tough and be a charade.

McCain looks just independent enough to be elected by America, just look at the poll matchups. The Dems will be promising the plutocracy every first born son by the time the votes are cast.

Wake up and smell the corporate state.

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Only if Hillary isn't selected as the Democratic candidate.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 14, 2008 4:15 AM   
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Nothing will re-invigorate the McCain campaign like a Hillary Clinton victory. Then, all the McCain campaign has to do is point to her lies and omissions and nasty tactics, and they have a good chance of winning the campaign.

Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton have already praised McCain effusively, even claiming that he'd be a better candidate than Obama - what did they call it? "The legendary record of John McCain" or something like that? The creep from Arizona with the dirty record from the Savings & Loan scandal? Mr. angry war hawk, neocon salad tosser, and of an equally slimly nature as Clinton herself.

A Clinton-McCain matchup would bring U.S. politics to a new low level of hopeless despair.

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That's NEO-conservative !
Posted by: GrannyBgood on Apr 14, 2008 4:38 AM   
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Conservatives have been conflated with what we're REALLY talking about: NEO-conservatives. There's nothing actually "Conservative" about them, and real conservatives are pissed too!
Of course, THEY let this all happen!

Besides, I have no doubt that McSame will flip or flop in any direction prescribed for him by the GOP, as he has already started to do.

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» stop using FLIP and or FLOP... Posted by: Bearzerker
PR Watch on McCain, the New York Times, and the Winter Soldier hearings:
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 14, 2008 4:47 AM   
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FAIR: NYT "explains" Winter Soldier news blackout

Why didn't the New York Times cover the "Winter Soldier" hearings organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW), during which soldiers testified about their experiences in Iraq? Of the newspaper's three Pentagon reporters, "one [was] on book leave, one was traveling with the secretary of defense, and one was in Iraq covering the war," explained public editor Clark Hoyt, responding to an action alert from Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR).

Hoyt added, "The Times also did not cover an announcement the following day by Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership" of IVAW. FAIR notes that "anyone can sign up on the Vets for Freedom website," while IVAW membership is restricted to veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Hoyt's comparison of Winter Soldier's "eyewitness testimony about atrocities in Iraq" and Vets for Freedom's "press release about media bias" is also "far-fetched," adds FAIR. But Vets for Freedom is receiving attention.

Before hearing General David Petraeus's and Ambassador Ryan Crocker's update on Iraq, Senator John McCain addressed a Vets for Freedom rally, reports NPR. "Your presence here indicates that the overwhelming majority of veterans ... know that there is no substitute for victory and withdrawal is defeat," he told the Republican front group."

McCain Lieberman '08: The Permanent War Machine Ticket

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GOP will get out its vote for McCain
Posted by: robchapman on Apr 14, 2008 6:04 AM   
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John McCain unquestionably has problems with the conservative wing of the GOP.

They mistrust him because he took positions contrary to their orthodoxy on campaign finance and immigration. These issues loom large and they undermine Senator McCain's stalwart conservatism on other issues.

Senator McCain recently reversed himself on the symbolic issue of the Martin Luther King, Jr. national holiday. No doubt this lead to more doubts among the conservatives as they wonder what position Sen. McCain will abandon next.

Senator McCain makes much of his willingness to uphold unpopular positions because they are right, yet they recognize that on Immigration, an issue in which his position was hugely unpopular, the Senator caved.

Nevertheless, Republicans are almost a royalist party in their dedication to orderly sucession in their leadership. It is John McCain's turn to run for President and they will put all of their resources into electing him.

The GOP and the right recognize that they must remain united to stand a hope in the electoral contests in America. They also realize that they cannot advance their agenda from the opposition role. Whatever their doubts or distaste with Senator McCain, they will support him as their standard bearer.

Democrats and the left, if disunited, will have another four years to perfect their frustration in the role of loyal opposition. It is imperative that after the nomination is settled, we take 48 hours to celebrate or mourn, and then get back to work.

President McCain will be Bush III. Either President Rodham-Clinton or President Obama is a vast difference and improvement over that.

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No Sense Whining
Posted by: Democritus on Apr 14, 2008 6:23 AM   
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No one who is really progressive likes any of the candidates that much. So we're down to a choice among corporatists and semi-corporatists. What intelligent voters should do is stop wringing their hands about things they cannot change and vote for the lesser evil.

For me, that's easy. John McCain is a foul-mouthed, choleric flip-flopper who hasn't a clue about foreign or domestic affairs. But the GOP will hold its collective nose and vote for him, trying once more to get the average voter to vote against his or her interests--just tell them one more time what a great patriot he is for spending 5 1/2 years in a Vietnamese POW camp. Any woman who votes for a guy who calls his wife a c--- in public should be ashamed of herself for even thinking of pulling the lever for him.

Hillary Clinton--smart, ambitious, and a real street fighter--is now tied to the same corporate bunch her husband buddied up with after he left the presidency. She has the brass to call Obama "elitist," when she attended the finest universities and worked for the most prestigious law firms. She would like you to think that she's another Eleanor Roosevelt, but she's not. Eleanor wouldn't have voted for Bush's war, continuing to support it until she saw that it wasn't gaining her any traction. Perhaps she's not the "monster" that one of her former supporters called her, but anyone who shares the podium with Rupert Murdoch and has right-wing prayer group friends is suspect in my book.

That leaves Barack Obama. The GOP mud machine will sling everything they have at him, from insisting he's a Muslim, to saying he belongs to a hateful church. Both lies, by the way. In their efforts they've been helped by Democrats who can't stand to see anyone challenging Hillary Clinton for what she thinks is rightfully hers. Barack wouldn't have been my first choice. He's a little too eager to reach across the aisle in a spirit of friendship to the right-wing bigots who generated a war and will continue to push for our bloody Iraq occupation. But Barack is the best we've got at this point. Maybe he's tougher than he comes across. Maybe he'd kick all the elitist neocons out of their little government cubby holes and resurrect our country's image. Then again, maybe not. But it's time to stop whining about what might have been and just get on with it.

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» RE: No Sense Whining Posted by: Opinionator
» RE: No Sense Whining Posted by: cherylsass123
» RE: No Sense Whining Posted by: kiwijohn
For Republicans it's not the economy, "it's Iraq, stupid"
Posted by: war_on_tara on Apr 14, 2008 6:43 AM   
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They may dislike McCain otherwise, but they'll think he's all right with that 100 year occupation of Iraq stuff!

It all boils down to whether the welfare-for-the-rich plutocrats, Bible-thumpers and Israeli agents who control the Republican party will care enough about the Iraq project to focus on trashing Obama (&/or HRC) for a few months, and try to deal with McCain later after he's in. My guess is they will.

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More Disturbing Truths Re: John McCainiac At...
Posted by: OnlyJesusSaves on Apr 14, 2008 7:08 AM   
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TheAmericanView.com.

JLof@aol.com

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It doesnt make much sense until...
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 AM   
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It doesnt make much sense until you realize that Rush Limbaugh and Hannity and Coulter and all of that pond scum serve but one single solitary purpose. To keep you thinking about Hillary and McCain and Obama. To keep your mind in the system constructed by groups like the CFR to control the population. To keep the game of political football going so they can rob america while america is busy watching the stupid game.

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A Republican conservative who likes liberals.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 14, 2008 8:32 AM   
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I'm a 72-year-old conservative who voted for the GOP from 1956 through Ronald Reagan's second term. In 1988, I switched sides and supported Governor Dukakis.

Why? Because I didn't like Big George's NEW WORLD ORDER ideas, which sounded fascist to me.

Turns out I was right. After what his perfectly cloned first son has done to our nation, being a liberal -- or "free man," by definition -- is not a bad thing.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com, the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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Welcome to Turdblossom's world
Posted by: willymack on Apr 14, 2008 9:49 AM   
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Where nothing is as it seems, and in an evily adroit act of prestidigitation and clever prevarication, rove deflects attention from the REAL issues of the day in an effort to split the Democrats and make mccrazy look good. This chicanery works every time with the thinking-challenged portion of our voters, which, unfortunately is roughly fifty per cent. It wouldn't surprize me a bit to find out that mcloser was tbe neocons' first choice all along. They seem to favor vainglorious fools for their front men. The rethugs have absolutely NOTHING to point out as a positive result of eight years of neocon mismanagement, so their ONLY recourse is to smear a split Democratic party in an effort to make it as close a race in November as it was in '00 and '04, and that's where the fix comes in. Can anybody say caging lists?

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Liberals Miss the Bag Again but is OK
Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 AM   
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If you can't tell, I'm one of the Conservative Blogger who reads and post on the Alternet, you guys are good because this page is deeper than Hillary vs Obama however you have your fixation on destroying Republicans and now your aim is on John McCain. He was your hero for these past 8 years however now since he is a stone throw from the White House now its time to throw him under the bus. Typical Liberals. Even Liberals can't be honest about Liberals (See: Randi Rhodes). I mentioned her because Talk Radio types like Rush and O'Relley are still holding McCain feet to the Conservative fire. Other Conservatives are also holding McCain to the fire, there is a movement to keep Mitt Romney off the ticket as VP by Huckabee and CO. You Liberals know what Huckabee is all about (well you think you do at least). Don't knock Rush and friends because they can be honest on there programs about McCain. Even I'm holding my nose for McCain in the fall however I did contemplated pulling for Obama until that Rev Wright flare up. I'm black and that hate speech will get black no were. Would any of you liberals move to any American City ghetto? Hell NO! You will over pay for an address before moving down the "tha hood" because you see Obama has the messiah to wash away the sins of White Guilt however after that things would just go back to normal. Blacks will still live below the American Dream while Illegals and Legal Immigrants will advance in America.
Conservatives dont see race and gender, just Americans willing to do what he or she can by the powers giving buy God to advance and prosper.

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Posted by: debmcd on Apr 14, 2008 4:20 PM   
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In the past few years the Republican party has moved so far to the right that if you aren't falling over from being so far right, they don't consider you one of them. If a Republican even thinks of working with a Democrat on a bill, the Republican party considers them outlaws. Believe it or not righties, there are people out there who will work with the other party to get things done. That's the way it should be. Unfortunately the Republicans in Congress have made it their priority to not let anything get passed if the Democrats want it, no matter how much we want and need it. To me the Republicans deserve McCain and he deserves them.

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Posted by: MobileSucks on Apr 14, 2008 6:03 PM   
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You know what was all over cable news today? The Republicans can easily win the White House. If a simple remark about working class whites "leaning" on god and guns and being "bitter" can cause this much of a media frenzy, Obama is in trouble. Period. I watched some of this today and lost a little more respect for America. I already didn't have any for the media. You know what the deal is: Clinton is trying to bring Obama down so she can run in 2012. McCain would only be a one term President. She already lost the nomination months ago, so she is going to do whatever she can to ruin Obama. The media likes McCain and has clearly shown it's bias against liberalism. And truth is, a lot of Americans just want an excuse to not for for a black.

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Media Frenzy
Posted by: upHurled on Apr 14, 2008 9:01 PM   
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All of cable news today and the entire weekend was about Obama's so-called "bitter" gaff. His simple remark about working class whites "leaning" on god and guns and being "bitter" is very near truth in many cities. The media has seven days before Pennsylvania and has "discovered" frenzy drives the stupid imbecilic viewer to scream for more! Obama is NOT in trouble. Period. He needs only to reiterate what he said...not EXPLAIN it. My respect for the America non-thinker has always been low but it has reached new lows lately.

The media should be repeatedly and ferociously condemned by email, letter, and FAX. They are the cretins who are attempting to foil the electoral process. Waste them! Spit on them!

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Gwenjo
Posted by: Gwenjo on Apr 14, 2008 11:56 PM   
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Don't assume from someone's demographic description who they will support. I'm white--can't help it, it was passed on to me from my parents--61 and female. Read Betty Friedan in high school, had my subscription to MS along with Mother Jones for years.

I'm putting the Obama sign in my yard and the sticker on my car. I've waited years for the opportunity to see a woman president. However, for my children's and grandchildren's sake--and for all the rest of us and whatever that abstract called the USA is--I'm willing to wait a little longer. Gender(and race) have trumped ability in every election for over two hundred years. That doesn't make it right.

Don't assume. Even old white ladies can show some sense.

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