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White People Have a Racial History Too

By Alice Walker, AlterNet. Posted April 2, 2008.


How dishonest it is to portray Obama as the only candidate with a racial inheritance.

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I have come home from a long stay in Mexico to find -- because of the presidential campaign, and especially because of the Obama-Clinton race for the Democratic nomination -- a new country existing alongside the old. On any given day we, collectively, become the Goddess of the Three Directions and can look back into the past, look at ourselves just where we are and take a glance, as well, into the future. It is a space with which I am familiar.

When I was born in 1944 my parents lived on a middle Georgia plantation that was owned by a white distant relative, Miss May Montgomery. (During my childhood it was necessary to address all white girls as "Miss" when they reached the age of 12.) She would never admit to this relationship, of course, except to mock it. Told by my parents that several of their children would not eat chicken skin, she responded that of course they would not. No Montgomerys would.

My parents and older siblings did everything imaginable for Miss May. They planted and raised her cotton and corn, fed and killed and processed her cattle and hogs, painted her house, patched her roof, ran her dairy, and, among countless other duties and responsibilities, my father was her chauffeur, taking her anywhere she wanted to go at any hour of the day or night. She lived in a large white house with green shutters and a green, luxuriant lawn: not quite as large as Tara of Gone With the Wind fame, but in the same style.

We lived in a shack without electricity or running water, under a rusty tin roof that let in wind and rain. Miss May went to school as a girl. The school my parents and their neighbors built for us was burned to the ground by local racists who wanted to keep ignorant their competitors in tenant farming. During the Depression, desperate to feed his hardworking family, my father asked for a raise from 10 dollars a month to 12. Miss May responded that she would not pay that amount to a white man, and she certainly wouldn't pay it to a nigger. That before she'd pay a nigger that much money, she'd milk the dairy cows herself.

When I look back, this is part of what I see. I see the school bus carrying white children, boys and girls, right past me and my brothers, as we trudge on foot five miles to school. Later, I see my parents struggling to build a school out of discarded army barracks, while white students, girls and boys, enjoy a building made of brick. We had no books; we inherited the castoff books that "Jane" and "Dick" had previously used in the all-white school that we were not, as black children, permitted to enter.

The year I turned 50, one of my relatives told me she had started reading my books for children in the library in my hometown. I had had no idea -- so kept from black people it had been -- that such a place existed. To this day knowing my presence was not wanted in the public library when I was a child, I am highly uncomfortable in libraries and will rarely, unless I am there to help build, repair, refurbish or raise money to keep them open, enter their doors.

When I joined the freedom movement in Mississippi in my early 20s it was to come to the aid of sharecroppers, like my parents, who had been thrown off the land they'd always known, the plantations, because they attempted to exercise their "democratic" right to vote. I wish I could say white women treated me and other black people a lot better than the men did, but I cannot. It seemed to me then, and it seems to me now, that white women have copied, all too often, the behavior of their fathers and their brothers, and in the South, especially in Mississippi, and before that, when I worked to register voters in Georgia, the broken bottles thrown at my head were gender-free.

I made my first white women friends in college; they were women who loved me and were loyal to our friendship, but I understood, as they did, that they were white women and that whiteness mattered. That, for instance, at Sarah Lawrence, where I was speedily inducted into the board of trustees practically as soon as I graduated, I made my way to the campus for meetings by train, subway and foot, while the other trustees, women and men, all white, made their way by limo. Because, in our country, with its painful history of unspeakable inequality, this is part of what whiteness means. I loved my school for trying to make me feel I mattered to it, but because of my relative poverty I knew I could not.


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we are all black
Posted by: caru on Apr 2, 2008 3:22 AM   
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thats what the dna tells us. lets embrace this and push the mind of whitey off the stage. labeling humans as a color only exists as a means of control and separation.

we can trace heritage in each one, returning to the same mother. by denying this truth one only admits to self-hating.

we can accept each thread of our species, each difference, with justice.

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Incredibly poignant article!
Posted by: MindyB on Apr 2, 2008 4:22 AM   
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Thank you for this great article! It gives us much to think about as we deal with this very heated nomination process. She has incredible insight on who we are as a country and makes perfect sense. America's history of segregation, oppression and discrimination is not that far back in the past. We all need to recognize that until we (as a country) learn to accept what has happened in our not so distant past with eyes wide open, we will not be able to move into the future, a future of unification and a future of a true "United States" that equally embraces all citizens of this country.

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Thank You Alice Walker
Posted by: BobS on Apr 2, 2008 4:50 AM   
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I attended my first Black History class in 1968 at the University of Maryland. The class came about because Black students demanded it in that tumultuous year. They were supported by a small but significant number of white students.

On the first day of class it was a shock to all of us to find out that a southern white professor was the teacher. Because of UM's Jim Crow history, it has almost no Black faculty at the time. But Professor Dan Carter turned out to be very knowledgeable and an relentless foe of Dixie apartheid. All of us learned a lot from that man.

But even though UM's first Black Studies class was taught by a white man, the racists on campus still howled in protest. They used to argue loud and long that if "the Blacks" (and they used another term that I won't repeat here) had Black Studies, why not have White Studies?

Of course, much of the class was taken up with the history of whiteness in America. Black people sure didn't invent Jim Crow.

Well, as the old cliche goes, be careful what you wish for, you might get it. Now we do have White Studies.
Books like How the Irish Became White People, The Wages of Whiteness, When Affirmative Action Was White, Sundown Towns and many others go into great detail about how that disparate and quarrelsome crowd of European immigrants, many of whom had endured terrible class oppression, became White People.

Alice Walker, like so many Black intellectuals before her, has made her own unique contribution to this discipline of White Studies.

At the core of the White Studies movement is the recognition that America has a racial history so tragic that it would strain the abilities of a Shakespeare or a Sophocles to tell it. America invented the whole concept of Black People and White People and now whether we like it or not, that is our reality.

Of course the problem with White Studies is that it tells us a story that many people don't want to hear, even though white people who close their ears to it are the very ones who need to hear it the most.

America appears to be going through the disintegration of its Age of Empire and this will bring on far-reaching social and economic distress.

Not far from where I took my first Black Studies class is a little stream called Antietam Creek. On a September day in 1862, 23,000 Americans were killed or wounded in the single most bloody day in our history. Those 12 terrible hours in the rolling Maryland countryside are just one of the many violent results that came from our inability to solve our racial divide peacefully.

People like Alice Walker suggest another alternative. Have we smartened up enough to take it? We'll see.

Bob Simpson
The BobboSphere

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» RE: Thank You Alice Walker Posted by: ALANHESTER
Racial Inheritance?
Posted by: rickiey on Apr 2, 2008 4:55 AM   
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Racial inheritance? Are you *censored* kidding me? I mean, seriously.

Gee, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that I had strayed over to a Catholic forum. I mean, that must be where I'm at, cuz otherwise why would there be any "original sin" conversation?

As an "evil white male" I refuse to take on any form of "inheritance" for actions that I have not done.

There are many reasons to vote against Hillary Clinton. Her lack of honesty, her lack of ethics, the fact that she is the closest thing to actually being GW Bush without being named Cheney, for example.

But to vote against her because of her race? Oh, excuse me, her "racial inheritance"? That is just bigotry, however nicely you try to veil it.

If I thought for a second that Obama thinks the way the author of this does, I would be out trying to retract my primary vote.

Fortunately, like Rev Wright, the author also does not speak for him. He speaks for himself, and actually understand the concepts of equality.

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What a sad article
Posted by: dmaddox on Apr 2, 2008 5:39 AM   
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Ms Walker seems to be so unable to get over the past that she is incapable of recognizing and celebrating change and progress. The very fact that her books are honored and praised in libraries where, half a century ago, they would have been banned is remarkable and praiseworthy. Yet this sad, embittered, old woman still refuses to even visit those libraries.

I grew up in Memphis during the 1960s. My grandparents were openly racist, my parents struggling to adjust. Bigoted language and attitudes were never seen or heard in my home, although my sister and I were taught to tolerate such from our less educated kinfolk. Even so, I never had a black friend or acquaintance until I was well into college.

My own children, on the other hand, grew up in mixed race neighborhoods in the same middle Georgia region Ms Walker speaks of in her article. Their friends were black, white, and latino, and no one paid any mind to the differences.

My daughter's date to her junior prom was a wonderful young man, who just happens to be black. They went their separate ways, but still correspond regularly. He apparently still carries a torch for her, so I guess it's not out of the question that he could end up my son-in-law. This would absolutely horrify my grandparents, but would not displease me. As I said, he's a fine young man from a good family.

Don't talk to me about "racial inheritance". What a bigoted, racist, horrible notion that just because my grandparents behaved and believed a certain way that I must also harbor those same ideas. That my children are condemned to repeat their actions and to treat their fellow-man with anything less than respect.

Yes, things in this country were horrible. But to ignore the progress made in over half a century of work is to perpetuate bigotry. It saddens me that Ms Walker, who pretends to an enlightened perspective, falls into that category.

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» Everyone is a Racist Posted by: kamcallen
Racism, a Two-Way Street
Posted by: Andie927 on Apr 2, 2008 5:52 AM   
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I'm only six years younger then this author. I was raised in a small town in CT. The 'black' kids I knew, and was friends with, rode our bus, went to our schools, and frequently sat next to me! Both I knew, (smarter then me) went to college, when I couldn't afford to!

In the late 1970's we moved to N.Carolina, a large estate was being divided for the first time (the deed was from the King of England), a doctor bought the fancy house, and there were three 'tenet' farms houses being sold, with 25 acres each. The other two, one bought and one rented, by brothers who's families had been tenet farmers from as far back as anyone could remember, on that land! They were white!

My point is, we all have 'sad' stories, bigotry, prejudice, racism, sexism, discrimination in all forms exist!

We are NOT born equal, Except in the Eyes of God! Here on earth, we have to do the best we can with the hand we're dealt!

No Person, minister, teacher, politician, in a position of 'public trust, and responsiblity'; should do or say things that encourages, holding onto past wrongs, insight one group against the other, fan the flames of Hatred!

There were a LOT of white people, in the Civil Rights Movement, and Marches! There are?/were 'white' tenent farmers too. There are 'poor' white kids too.

My problem with Rev. Wrights speech, was it was Hate Speech! Hate the Whitey! Paint all White People with the same brush, I know my Black friends wouldn't want me painting all 'black' people with the same brush. Never mind a White Preacher, in a Mega Church, doing it! (Yes, I'd be upset if it were a White Church, doing the same thing)

But why would Barack Obama, with his 'we are all Americans' line, 'bring people together' line: Put a man with these Views, opinions, attitudes, ON his Political Campaign??

Will the REAL Barack Obama, Please stand-up?

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White racism is a huge one-way highway says WashPost
Posted by: PakiBoy on Apr 2, 2008 6:27 AM   
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"Social psychologists [Harvard University] Philip Mazzocco and Mahzarin Banaji once asked white volunteers how much money would cover the "costs" of being born black instead of white. The volunteers guessed that about $5,000 ought to cover the lifetime disadvantages of being an average black person rather than an average white person, in the United States. By contrast, when asked how much they wanted to go without television, the volunteers demanded a million dollars.

Mazzocco and Banaji were taken aback: The average black person in America is 447 percent more likely to be imprisoned than the average white person, and 521 percent more likely to be murdered. Blacks earn 60 cents to the dollar compared with whites who have the same education levels and marital status. The black poverty rate is nearly twice the white poverty rate. Blacks tend to die five years earlier than whites; the infant mortality rate among black babies is nearly 1 1/2 times the rate among white babies. And because of long-standing patterns of inheritance, blacks and whites begin life with substantial disparities in family wealth.

"The point we were making is, whatever the cost of being black might be, whites are vastly underestimating it," said Mazzocco, of Ohio State University at Mansfield. "You throw in the 5-to-1 wealth gap . . . if you wanted to put a dollar-and-cents value on the difference, you would come up with a number much larger than $5,000."

The unusual experiment is one of dozens that have found that whites tend to have a relatively rosy impression of what it means to be a black person in America. Whites are more than twice as likely as blacks to believe that the position of African Americans has improved a great deal. Blacks are more than twice as likely as whites to believe that conditions for African Americans are growing worse.

"Many whites assume blacks are making use of old crimes to gain present-day benefits that are unearned," Mazzocco said. "Underlying this is a misunderstanding and ignorance about black costs and white privilege."

The intriguing question prompted by Eibach's study is why whites and blacks are unconsciously drawn to different yardsticks. Eibach said one reason might be that racial equality means different things to whites and blacks: Whites see it as an ideal, blacks as a necessity. When people evaluate progress toward idealistic or optional goals -- saving for a vacation -- they tend to focus on progress made. But when people think of necessities -- paying the rent -- they focus on how much they are short.

In another set of experiments, social psychologist Amanda Brodish at the University of Michigan's Institute for Social Research showed that prejudice may play a role, too. Whites with high levels of prejudice -- who think blacks are not as smart as whites, who think blacks and whites are inherently unequal, and who reported being uncomfortable with a black roommate -- invariably evaluated racial equality only in comparison with the past.

By contrast, said Brodish's co-author, Patricia Devine of the University of Wisconsin at Madison, low-prejudice whites were equally willing to apply the yardsticks of both past and future.

"There is a disconnect between whites and blacks about what it feels like to be a victim of mundane discrimination," Eibach concluded. "There is a tendency to say, 'These mundane things are nothing like the past,' but the lived reality of bearing that weight -- the frustrations and indignities -- that is a major source of the disconnect."

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» pfft! you missed the point Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
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» pfft! your post is very revealing Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
Same Ol', Same Ol'
Posted by: MizLee17 on Apr 2, 2008 6:33 AM   
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I'm so disappointed, but not surprised, that the "white inheritance" is limited to the racist Southern US - as though it didn't appen anywhere else in the US or the planet, for that matter. Anwar Sadat's wife's family was appalled she wanted to marry a dark man. In many places and cultures, lighter skin means a better person. Before tans became fashionable, even White people worked to avoid darkening "our" skin. I had a Black co-worker who claimed she would never date a dark man, "I like 'em light, bright, and nearly white," she proclaimed, much to my surprise as almost everyone is darker than I.

I had hoped she would give some credit to the individual whites who did what they could to combat the official racism of the culture. My grandmothers used their position to come to the aid of their maids and their families, even to the point of being threatened for doing so. That Ms. Walker's Miss May allowed "family" to live so miserably just speaks to a weakness in her gene pool.

Those libraries she won't go in are open to people of color due to people "without" color who stood for the rights of all people at considerable risk to themselves and their families. It wouldn't have happened otherwise. Too bad Ms. Walker doesn't know her/our history as well as she should.

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Thank you, Alice
Posted by: ankhet on Apr 2, 2008 6:36 AM   
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I've enjoyed your work for a number of years (20+?) now. Thank you for this wonderful, insightful piece.

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That White Girl
Posted by: Maya on Apr 2, 2008 6:41 AM   
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Amazing how race ALWAYS trumps gender. Esp with women.

The colonizing Europeans who not only managed the slave trade but exterminated the American Indians were men. Only 16 percent of our current politicans are women.

Clinton has done more for poor women of all colors than Obabma. And it is not an issue he seems to worry about in the least.

how sad Walker's piece devolves into "That white girl," just the kind of divisive and triangualting situations women around the world continually subject each another to. I feel more in support of Clinton than ever before.

Walker,being a goddess means seeing other women as one too.

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We Are All Related
Posted by: leener on Apr 2, 2008 6:55 AM   
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The one fact I felt that was left out of this piece was the mention of white poverty. The white women you spoke of are women of privilege, educated and well-spoken who broke open the women's agenda in the 60s, the era of which Mrs. Clinton is a part. But there are those of us who were raised by working class or poor families as well. We are not part of the same white racial inheritance of which you speak. The white race does not have the same face. It's not an us vs. them scenario. Where I grew up, poor whites like us were in the same boat with poor black and Puerto Rican families - denied! There is a more insidious discrimination against people of poverty in this nation than against people of any race. That poverty continues to perpetuate itself generation after generation, regardless of race, is the real tragedy of democracy.

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Recurring theme of victmhood.
Posted by: PJAW on Apr 2, 2008 7:02 AM   
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Seems like a lot of folks want to write in response to this article and offer a kind of "quite whining, I'm a victim too" sort of an attitude.

So, let me just add, I'm sick of all the bastards that are ripping me off and holding me down!

Aaaah..., I feel better now. So good, in fact, that I think I'm going to help the first person I see today who has less than me. Ha! That was easy, I did the dishes so my spouse wouldn't have to. Think I'l do antother one now.

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» I did not misspell "misspell." Look it up. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
» andabottleof_rum Posted by: PJAW
Alice- are Jews who immigrated after slavery was abolished "white?"
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Apr 2, 2008 7:13 AM   
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Alice- are Jews who immigrated after slavery was abolished "white" in your eyes? Granted the Jews are terrorizing the Palestinians now but do blacks look at 1900 immigrant Jews as slaveholders?

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» Franklin Delano Rosenfeld Posted by: Adler Berriman Seal
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hey, we were here first....
Posted by: ellie on Apr 2, 2008 7:25 AM   
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as usual, the standard gripe from me...

American Indian people today live 15 years shorter lives on average

still have 75% unemployment on our home rez's, Bennet County in SD is the home of the Pine Ridge rez, the poorest county in the US

we are stereotyped still into being creations of the past, every time we come up with something to try to drag us out of utter poverty, we face a cultural and/or legal backlash, could go on and on...

we think we started out with 10 million folks here at the time of european contact and by 1900 we were down to less then 250,000 people, now we're about 2 million including mixed blood people who admit it on the last census, but the prior census said we were only less then 1 million...

amazed still that when ethnicity is examined by the social sciences you hardly ever see us listed on the list of ethnicities surveyed...

the difference is that we tend to operate on a different paradigm, we do not want charity, we want the means and tools to make things better ourselves, our way...

most Indian folks I know do not want to assimilate, but want to do better for ourselves and our people... we are still sovereign nations and refuse to give that up...

back to coffee.... hmmmmm.....

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» Thank you. Posted by: JoshuaLudd
mick3
Posted by: mick3 on Apr 2, 2008 7:30 AM   
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What I don't get is why "whites" count their own color as so much less powerful than that of "blacks." Why is it that Obama is considered black by all, even with a white mother? Why was it that an octaroon (1/8 black, 7/8 white) was still considered a black and thus a slave, back in the day?

I think it's ironic that racists give their own racial shade such little importance compared to those of other, darker shades.

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Move along
Posted by: BST on Apr 2, 2008 8:03 AM   
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"It is a deep sadness to me that many of my feminist white women friends cannot see him."

What a castigation of feminist white women who simply like and admire Hillary Clinton.

Their decision is not all about YOU.

The most effective way to nourish racism, sexism and religious intolerance is to resolve to continue seeding every event, every decision, every new generation with the "way things used to be."

My mother, long gone, would take umbrage with your comments since HER racial history was to immediately dive in as a white woman to help blacks to sign up to vote when that opportunity arose.

Move along. It's 2008.

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sb
Posted by: sbzo on Apr 2, 2008 8:41 AM   
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Agree or disagree with Ms. Walker's article, she is being successful in one aspect and that is getting the American people to discuss the issues. As one person commented it is not discussed in the North. We harbor our resentments and opinions and then pretend like we are not racist, but it happens everywhere in every corner of this country and it is not just blacks and whites, it is people of all colors. So a big hurrah for Ms. Walker as she has again opened the door for meaningful discussion.

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» RE: sb -- More Power to You Posted by: Zeugitai
what if
Posted by: e rice on Apr 2, 2008 8:53 AM   
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condoleeza rice were running?

what would the deciding factor be then? race, gender, or political position?

any chance of resurrecting hubert humphrey?

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» beautifully put Posted by: e rice
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What a letdown.
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Apr 2, 2008 9:07 AM   
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After reading the headline I was hoping for an article perhaps speaking about whites not being considered such cultural eunuchs as we are, or as one of my professors (who was jewish) put it years ago "just a plain white guy". Instead there seemed to be little mention of whites in the article at all... and all of that in the context of the dubious dichotomy between black and white.

"It is hard to relate what it feels like to see Mrs. Clinton (I wish she felt self-assured enough to use her own name) referred to as "a woman" while Barack Obama is always referred to as "a black man." One would think she is just any woman, colorless, race-less, past-less, but she is not."

And while that sort of racial transparency does have some benefits when one is considered the standard or default, it also leaves one just that.. race-less and past-less. Would anyone non-white ever truly want to be or even be considered race-less or past-less? I, for one, don't care to be past-less. I don't want to forget about my ancestors being forced off of their lands, subjected by foreigners, starved, and eventually forced away from their homes to lands far away. I don't want to forget that happening to either my Irish ancestors or my Native American ancestors. I'm not just "white", nor am I somehow guilty of something for simply being born with light skin.

"She carries all the history of white womanhood in America in her person; it would be a miracle if we, and the world, did not react to this fact. How dishonest it is, to attempt to make her innocent of her racial inheritance."

INNOCENT of her racial inheritance? As if she is actually GUILTY of something for simply being born white?

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King? Mandela? Are you kidding me?
Posted by: BobbyLip on Apr 2, 2008 9:22 AM   
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Sadly, Alice Walker has gone off the deep end. There may come a time, if we are lucky beyond all reasonable expectation, that Senator Obama may rate inclusion in a pantheon that includes Martin Luther King, Jr., and Nelson Mandela, but not yet--not by a long shot. Although the senator easily surpasses those heroes in fealty to corporatism, militarism, and the usual politico's belief in American exceptionalism, what has he ever done to demonstrate physical or moral courage in service to anything greater than his own ambition? So far, as best I can see, the main reasons given to vote for him are that he is not Hillary and he opposed the Iraq invasion at the same time as millions of others and when he took no political--or any other--risk to do so. (Notice that he has no problem with invading Afghanistan--equally illegal and unjustifiable--or going into the wild west of Pakistan without that country's permission should there be "actionable" intelligence.) When Dick Durbin compared our treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo to that suffered in concentration camps or the gulag, Obama called that characterization "a mistake." He will not take on the insurance companies by fighting for a single-payer health care system; nor will he even call for universal coverage. The idea that he is anything other than the usual middle-of-the-road "liberal" is just plain wrong. I guess I'll vote for him if he's the only alternative to McCain, but I won't be singing hosannas as I do.

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From one sister to another
Posted by: herronsmith on Apr 2, 2008 10:13 AM   
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The comments here remind me of many conversations I have listened to while observing from the periphery. It is, what I coin, One-Woman-Upsmanship Storytelling. A woman tells a story and even before she has gotten her point across the next woman pipes up with a bigger and better story. This ensues until no one even remembers the point.
Everyone here has a valid point to make. The problem I have is the rehashing of the "points". Rarely do we talk about the solutions as this involves more thoughtful conversations and ones that would be hard to have, I suppose, on a forum such as this.
I won't bore you with my "story", partly because it pales in comparison. What I will discuss is the future for women and who can unite this group of multiracial, multinational, multiflavored goddesses. Until a month or so ago, I thought HRC could pass it off but no more. She now, perhaps always, seems to stand for everything empowered women try to shun when being compared to men and to one another. I even gave her some latitude but after her last desperate attempt when she hallucinated a duck and run situation in Bosnia, I know it time for me to sever the ties once and for all. I can take a lot but not outright dishonestly that a person perpetuates ad nauseum. I think she is ill, if not psychologically, then spiritually and that is why I side with BHO... for now. I don't see a problem with the Rev. Wright fiasco except to say that I find it nearly impossible for Barack not to have heard that kind of language sometime during any number of services he attended. Don't insult my intelligence. I attended the same church for over 20 years myself and believe me, the priest's message didn't vary in its' content or tone. I'm sure Rev. Wrights' didn't either. So, is this reason enough to ditch him? Maybe, but I don't believe so. I don't agree with most of his policies as they are too centrist for me. But I trust he will surround himself with advisors who will advise wisely, in favor of every woman, of every color, of every socioeconomic group. We need to bring the country together, not further divide it. I feel the comments, however heartfelt, are widening a dangerous chasm that already exists.

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Appearances
Posted by: mlesoing on Apr 2, 2008 10:21 AM   
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Alice Walker, like many people, seems to see something regal, almost heroic, in Barack Obama. I do not understand what criteria Obama supporters are using to choose him over Clinton, not because Clinton is better, but rather because Clinton is identical. Rather, her voting record is identical to Obama's. Both support building a wall between the U.S. and Mexico, both support continuing a broken healthcare system instead of supporting single payer healthcare, both would continue to deny same sex marriage, and both of them, since the U.S. invaded Iraq, have voted to continue funding the war. To me, it is simply a throw of the dice as to which one to support since they are, race and sex aside, identical. Why does Ms. Walker think Obama would transform into a progressive simply by stepping into the oval office? A far better choice is Rep. Cynthia McKinney, a true progressive, brave enough to stand up for her beliefs and convictions. And for the record, Rep. Barbara Lee was not alone in voting no to make war on Iraq. In fact, 23 Senators and 156 Representatives also voted not to make war on Iraq (including McKinney).

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