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Anti-War Campaigners Have to Change Electoral Tactics

By Naomi Klein and Jeremy Scahill, The Guardian. Posted April 1, 2008.


Neither Clinton nor Obama has a real plan to end the occupation of Iraq, but they could be forced to change position.

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"So?"

So said Dick Cheney when asked last week about public opinion being overwhelming against the war in Iraq. "You can't be blown off course by polls."

His attitude about the the fact that the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq has reached 4,000 displayed similar levels of sympathy. They "voluntarily put on the uniform," the Vice-President told ABC news.

This brick wall of indifference helps explain the paradox in which we in the anti-war camp find ourselves five years into the occupation of Iraq: anti-war sentiment is as strong as ever, but our movement seems to be dwindling.

Sixty-four per cent of Americans tell pollsters they oppose the war, but you'd never know it from the thin turnout at recent anniversary rallies and vigils.

When asked why they aren't expressing their anti-war opinions through the anti-war movement, many say they have simply lost faith in the power of protest. They marched against the war before it began, marched on the first, second and third anniversaries. And yet five years on, U.S. leaders are still shrugging: "So?"

There is no question that the Bush administration has proven impervious to public pressure. That's why it's time for the anti-war movement to change tactics. We should direct our energy where it can still have an impact: the leading Democratic contenders.

Many argue otherwise. They say that if we want to end the war, we should simply pick a candidate who is not John McCain and help them win: We'll sort out the details after the Republicans are evicted from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Some of the most prominent anti-war voices--from MoveOn.org to the magazine we write for, The Nation--have gone this route, throwing their weight behind the Obama campaign.

This is a serious strategic mistake. It is during a hotly contested campaign that anti-war forces have the power to actually sway U. S. policy. As soon as we pick sides, we relegate ourselves to mere cheerleaders.

And when it comes to Iraq, there is little to cheer. Look past the rhetoric and it becomes clear that neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton has a real plan to end the occupation. They could, however, be forced to change their positions--thanks to the unique dynamics of the prolonged primary battle.

Despite the calls for Clinton to withdraw in the name of "unity," it is the very fact that Clinton and Obama are still fighting it out, fiercely vying for votes, that presents the anti-war movement with its best pressure point. And our pressure is badly needed.

For the first time in 14 years, weapons manufacturers are donating more to Democrats than to Republicans. The Dems have received 52 percent of the defense industry's political donations in this election cycle--up from a low of 32 per cent in 1996. That money is about shaping foreign policy, and so far, it appears to be well spent.

While Clinton and Obama denounce the war with great passion, they both have detailed plans to continue it. Both say they intend to maintain the massive Green Zone, including the monstrous U.S. embassy, and to retain U.S. control of the Baghdad Airport.

They will have a "strike force" to engage in counterterrorism, as well as trainers for the Iraqi military. Beyond these U.S. forces, the army of Green Zone diplomats will require heavily armed security details, which are currently provided by Blackwater and other private security companies. At present there are as many private contractors supporting the occupation as there are soldiers so these plans could mean tens of thousands of U. S. personnel entrenched for the future.

In sharp contrast to this downsized occupation is the unequivocal message coming from hundreds of soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq Veterans Against the War, who held the historic "Winter Soldier" hearings in Silver Spring, Md. earlier this month, are not supporting any candidate or party. Instead they are calling for immediate, unconditional withdrawal of all U.S. soldiers and contractors. Coming from peace activists, the "out now" position has been dismissed as naive. It is distinctly harder to ignore coming from hundreds who have served--and continue to serve--on the frontlines.

The candidates know that much of the passion fueling their campaigns flows from the desire among so many rank-and-file Democrats to end this disastrous war. It is this desire for change that has filled stadiums and campaign coffers.

Crucially, the candidates have already shown that they are vulnerable to pressure from the peace camp: When The Nation revealed that neither candidate was supporting legislation that would ban the use of Blackwater and other private security companies in Iraq, Clinton abruptly changed course. She became the most important U. S. political leader to endorse the ban, scoring a point on Obama, who opposed the invasion from the start.

This is exactly where we want the candidates: outdoing each other to prove how serious they are about ending the war. That kind of issue-based battle has the power to energize voters and break the cynicism that is threatening both campaigns.

Let's remember: unlike the outgoing Bush administration, these candidates need the support of the two-thirds of Americans who oppose the war in Iraq. If opinion transforms into action, they won't be able to afford to say, "So?"

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Coming from the Queen of identity politics...
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 1, 2008 12:33 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
And the mother of mass movement destruction, it is a bit rich.

There will be no successful, mass anti-war movement. Sorry.

People are too busy fighting to hang on economically. Unlike trendy, rich writers who make a fortune giving speeches to ivy league universities. Can't think of who I am thinking of?

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» RE: What Is Identity Politics? Posted by: left_libertarian
» I'm Back! Posted by: Bobsays
Ms. Klein says the show must go on,
Posted by: LeftWright on Apr 1, 2008 1:34 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
but don't bother to look behind the curtain.

Until our totally corrupt electoral system is made completely transparent, expecting any real change to come from presidential politics is an enormous waste of time.

The occupation will end when the Iraqis are too beat down to resist or the oil is gone unless Americans rise up, shut the country down and demand complete withdrawal.

Get your tents, y'all, let's go camp out in D.C. and get our country back.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

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» RE: No, I don't know what you mean Posted by: left_libertarian
With respect, I think Obama's right: it's about the mind-set
Posted by: Hans B on Apr 1, 2008 1:36 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Despite my extremely high regard for the author of this article, I disagree. I opposed the Iraq war from the start, but not just because of what would happen in Iraq: I also saw the doctrine of pre-emptive war as a danger to the entire world. The failure of the Iraq occupation has done us all a favor, be it at a horrific cost. Without it, the US would have moved on to Teheran. Rove would have succeeded in creating his permanent majority - that is, one-party state. Democracies everywhere would be fighting for survival in the face of fascist renewal.

So it's not just about Iraq. As Obama correctly says, it's about changing the mind-set behind the war. Otherwise the military force freed up by the withdrawal from Iraq will simply be used elsewhere.

A second point is that the Iraqis seem to be rallying around nationalist leaders who promise they will demand US withdrawal. If such people ultimately gain power, the US need not have a president who has a withdrawal plan. It will need a president who has the grace to accept the Iraqi request, and the honesty to carry it out.

The US doesn't need a president with a plan or with a promise. Nixon promised to withdraw from Vietnam, but only for electoral reasons. His real sympathies were with war, and war is what East Asia got. The US needs a president who genuinely desires peace. The rest will follow.

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» RE: Yea, Obama's Mind-Set, IS MORE War Posted by: mohican_nation
» Possible Justification Posted by: foreverhope
» RE: Possible Justification Posted by: MuddPi
We need to present a concrete picture of the day to day benefits of life without war
Posted by: Rune on Apr 1, 2008 1:41 AM   
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I think Bobsays is onto something important. People are repelled by the current "war" (which is actually a cluster of battles, covert operations, and occupations), but they have nothing positive and concrete being offered as an alternative. As a result, the conservative fear machine is free to operate and demoralize many of those who know that endless hot and cold war is unsustainable and immoral. All that is necessary is to hint at the potential for great dangers and chaos to materialize if the U.S. government does not kill or suppress any who might care to advance their interests at our expense (as the U.S. has routinely done to other countries and cultures) and many people lose their hopes for peace and prosperity until some vague sense of victory, which is never articulated, has been achieved "over there."

This is just dumb. There just aren't enough people who will buy into a fuzzy notion of hope when they have built up a bigger than life image of fearful realities lurking just around the corner. The only way to get out of this long slide is to start dismantling the major fears, one by one, by presenting plausible scenarios by which the principles of peace and justice that most of us proudly ascribe to ourselves can be used to defuse, negotiate, collaborate, create, inspire, and rebuild our way to a safe and secure future.

Those sort of conversations have been far and few between. Most of the anti-war conversations are reactions to to war ("being them home," "stop torture, "stop killing," etc.), which, while noble, don't do anything to counter the propaganda of terrorism, regional insurrections cutting us off from "our" oil (which happens to be under their land), and general fears of being inadequate and unable to take care of ourselves if we can't control any and all opponents through force, if not outright annihilation.

John F. Kennedy preached the notion of pursuing peace through a course of war and preparation for war (which included the orchestration of terrorists and death squads referred to as "counter-insurgencies"). In so doing, he helped the U.S. onto a foreign policy path that includes trumped up rationales for war, torture, arming thugs and terrorists, awful abuses of civil rights, and the deaths of millions of innocent civilians--all of which were commonplace by the time Reagan and George H.W. Bush made use of those tactics, although we seem to regard these as somehow new problems for America because George W. Bush has done such a poor job of keeping these atrocities within the realm of deniability.

Now, all three leading presidential candidates are trying to sell themselves as ready for action by indicating their willingness to follow this same, miserable, and ultimately hopeless road. McCain can't wait to bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, just as a starting point for proving he can out do the reckless military adventurism of the current war mongerer in chief. Clinton says she will do a better job of playing the old game, which may be why she was an early darling of the defense industry. And, now, Obama has come right out and said he intends to follow the patterns set by JFK, Reagan, and George H.W. Bush as he has moved into the top spot in recent defense industry campaign contributions.

There is no hope for peace and prosperity, here. There is no plausible vision for such a thing. There is no genuine language of greener economic restructuring that replaces and ever meaner foreign policy. All we have is airy platitudes about hope and change amidst a few technical tweaks to the same, old, losing paradigm. It is up to us to change that and, in so doing, change these candidates. They don't have the words, they don't have the vision, all they have are microphones and spotlights. We need to rewrite their tragic scripts ourselves if we don't want to get stuck acting out another episode of the Fall of the American Empire.

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» Military bloggers corps, is it? Posted by: thoughtcriminal
What won't the corporate press talk about?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 1, 2008 3:38 AM   
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First, the anti-war movement might want to recognize, clearly, that the corporate press, from NPR to the New York Times to the Washington Post to CNN and MSNBC, as well as FOX, The Wall Street Journal, CBS, ABC, etc- are all pro-war, pro occupation. Maybe not at the reporter level, but definitely at the executive level.

Why is the corporate press so resolutely pro-war? There were the false claims about Iraqi WMDs and links to 9/11 and the 9/18 and 10/9 anthrax attacks (delivered smoothly to the UN by the "honest & reliable" Colin Powell). Then there was the embedded reporting and the invasion and occupation cheerleading, followed by the refusal to report on any of the fraud & corruption involved in Paul Bremer's CPA and the so-called "Reconstruction of Iraq".

Is it possible that the corporate press might not want to report negatively on a war that has been extremely profitable for a whole host of sectors - international oil corporations and the banks and funds that own them, weapons manufacturers and private mercenary corporations, and all manner of supplemental military suppliers? After all, the corporate press is owned by the same banks that own Exxon, Halliburton, KBR, Chevron, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, etc.

Just look for yourself: KBR, Exxon, Boeing, and Time Warner (CNN).

Barclays, State Street, Vanguard, Goldman Sachs - that's not a chart you're going to see on CNN.

What we need to do, then, is first to force the presidential candidates and the press to address the question of the real reasons the U.S. invaded and occupied Iraq, which are not moral or democratic in nature, but which are instead entirely economic and geostrategic.

One thing is a sure bet: 5-15 years from now, Iraq will be the world's #1 oil producer. When candidates talk about "protecting our strategic interests in the region", they're saying that they broadly supports the general U.S. goal of control of the oil. Obama and Clinton both say that (Jan 08 debate):

OBAMA: . . .So I cannot guarantee that we’re not going to have a strategic interest that I have to carry out as commander-in-chief to maintain some troop presence there. . .

CLINTON: . . .obviously, we have to be responsible, we have to protect our embassy, we do need to make sure that, you know, our strategic interests are taken care of.


Mad Dog McCain is busy demonstrating that his loyalty to the oil corporations is without question: McCain Declines To Push For Iraq Oil Audit

No one seems to know where all the revenue from the sale of Iraqi oil has ended up - Carl Levin(D) and John Warner(R) want to know where the money went, McCain doesn't. No surprises there - McCain is a tool.

The best anti-war strategy is to focus on the reasons the war was fought, which were economic, the effect on U.S. soldiers (i.e. the Winter Soldier hearings), and the effect on Iraqi civilians.

However, it's not enough to point out the disaster in gory detail - we also have to have a better vision of the future, in which our strategic interests include energy independence, national health care, and good relations with other countries. Try Bill Richardson, who had this to say: "The answer here is not just thinking of our strategic interests as a country, as oil and Europe and the Middle East. It should be Africa, Asia and Latin America, doing something about poverty, about AIDS, about refugees, about those that have been left behind. That's how we restore American leadership in this country.

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IT'S OUR GOVERNING SYSTEM THAT HAS TO CHANGE
Posted by: parviz45 on Apr 1, 2008 5:25 AM   
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There is something definitely wrong when weapons manufacturers determine the continuation of war, and not principles and lives and miseries of thousands and thousands of people. Surely anyone who is not sensitive to the massacre of over a million people and other atrocities is a PSYCHPATH, and any system that promotes the leadership of psychos is completely sick. Consequently it is not only Hilary and Obama, but our governing system that is sick. The weapons manufacturers have to be neutered regarding initiation and maintainance of war...after all,what is the premise for allowing war manufacturers to run privately anyway? In any case, it is our system of governance that has to be looked at and made to serve humanity instead of enriching the paucity that it presently seves.

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Too busy watching the tube
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Apr 1, 2008 5:48 AM   
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... the tube which pipes endless profits right into the same companies that profit from the war. So not only do certain large multinational corporations profit obscenely from the war, but they also profit from distracting the public so they dont care about the war...

Next thing you know they'll be paid to dumb down the public by dumping fluoride and prozac in the drinking water. D'oh...

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Nor Have I Heard...
Posted by: Sparks56 on Apr 1, 2008 6:07 AM   
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I haven't heard anything from either Democrat about restoring Constitutional rights that have been trashed by the Bush Administration; habeas corpus, search and seizure, wire taps, the back-door draft, etc. ad infinitum. (In spite of what Cheney thinks, soldiers did not volunteer to serve forever, and Nat'l. Guard people never volunteered to fight a foreign war.)
While we pressure candidates about the war, at the same time we neede to apply the same pressure to restore the Constitution.

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» RE: Nor Have I Heard... Posted by: Lauren
You really Want Change??
Posted by: Andie927 on Apr 1, 2008 6:16 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
You want a Party that puts it in writting; they will put America first, Reduce and Controll our Military Industrial Complex?

You really want a Party that stands for Stongly Defending America: VS. Corporate Interests Overseas???

You want OUR jobs brought Home? Want Universal Single-Payer HealthCARE NOT Using TAX-Dpollars to Subsidize Insurance Co. that deny care??

Check Out the Green Party, Join them, find a Green Party meeting near you, make a committment to hand-out just 20 pamphlets, every week!

The ONLY Party that has a Party Platform; that's willing to put it in Writting!!

Country Before Party***Go Green (Party)***votesmart.org

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Idealistic thought is dead, think realism
Posted by: MikeOckhurtz on Apr 1, 2008 6:25 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Americans are too chicken-shit for a mass movement of any-kind. Everyone has an agenda. The last time I went to a protest arch in Boston in 03 I was not mesmerized by all of the little five minute speeches from the many member of different groups with and agenda to promote. Everyone had their big moment on stage and their own little chant prepared (I;m sure they put some hard thought into envisioning they alone wold rally the masses forth to follow their new leader). I stopped participating in the anti-war movement after that. Plus, it was on a Saturday - does it matter if you aren't shutting down commerce and being a genuine thorn in the side of capitalism and greed?
Americans will get what TV tells them they can have. They will believe what CNN and FOX and NPR tell them to believe. Basically, the Middle East is beginning to look like Gaza and Izraels Occupation of Palestine. Look for more of that to come. The Izrael Lobby holds the string in our puppet show called elections, they also call the shots in our Occupation of Iraq. God Bless Izrael.

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MoveOn Pressure the Democrats? Dream On!
Posted by: john_stauber on Apr 1, 2008 6:29 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
(Note: I've posted this a blog with internal links documenting the connections I mention below, at http://www.prwatch.org/node/7143 .)

Scahill and Klein, two leading anti-war journalists are challenging MoveOn, one "of the most prominent anti-war voices," to turn its activism against Democratic Party presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. They write, "We should direct our energy where it can still have an impact: the leading Democratic contenders. ... While Clinton and Obama denounce the war with great passion, they both have detailed plans to continue it." But why would MoveOn pressure the Democrats when getting them elected is their number one priority? Blaming the Iraq war on the Republicans and avoiding criticism of Democrats has been MoveOn's strategy for years. MoveOn is now raising and spending millions of dollars to elect Barack Obama, but has made it clear it will support Clinton if she is the nominee. Furthermore, Steve Hildebrand and Paul Tewes of Hildebrand Tewes Consulting simultaneously run MoveOn's anti-war coalition, Americans Against Escalation in Iraq (AAEI), while also employed by Obama as two of his top campaign officials. Tom Matzzie, previously the top lobbyist for MoveOn and AAEI, is trying to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Campaign to Defend America, a new organization run by him and MoveOn's founder Wes Boyd to attack John McCain. Simply put, MoveOn refuses to pressure the Democrats because they are the Democrats.

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Corporatist Empire - only common factor of all foreign and domestic pain
Posted by: amacd on Apr 1, 2008 7:10 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
With all due respect to Naomi Kline, trying to wage an anti-war movement vs. a working-class economic movement falls right into the trap of the corporatist Empire's 'shock doctrine' strategy of 'divide and confuse' and 'divide and conquer'.

If Naomi just took her own fabulous book to heart she would realize that the very same corporatist Empire which created the 'shock' of foreign imperialist oil-wars in Iraq, has ALSO created the 'shock' of domestic economic oppression, looting and tyranny by Wall Street.

Just think about it.

The only common denominator of all our 'shocking' disasters abroad and at home is their single cause ---- corporatist EMPIRE.

If we run around trying to rally against the 'shock' of the empire's war abroad, and other citizens run around trying to rally against the 'shock' of the empire's economic oppression and tyranny at home, the singular corporatist Empire that caused both these 'shocks' will win with its "Shock Doctrine" by the very same strategy that empires always beat the people ---- "Divide and conquer".

Actually, Naomi's book should be more accurately called, "The Shock(s) Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by the unified Corporatist Empire."

The shocking truth about the shock doctrine is that the very same unified Corporatist Empire (which hides behind the facade of this two-party 'Vichy' government, and 'Vichy' press) actually creates all the multiple 'shocks', both foreign wars and domestic economic disasters, and that these multiple 'shocks' cause the average citizens to run around in circles fighting what look like multiple fires and disasters: ALL OF WHICH ARE CAUSED BY THE VERY SAME AND ONLY COMMON SYSTEMIC PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY ---- THAT OUR CUNTRY IS RULED BY A UNIFIED, BUT GUILEFULLY HIDDEN CORPORATIST EMPIRE.

No, Ms. Kline and Mr. Scahill, "Anti-War Campaigners (Don't) Have to Change Electoral Tactics" ------ ANTI-EMPIRE Campaigners Have to Change Electoral Strategy, by telling the truth about the corporatist EMPIRE behind this 'Vichy' government being the singular source of all our sorrows, pain, 'shocks', and disasters, both foreign wars and domestic tyranny.

The only problem with such a change in electoral strategy of telling the truth about the corporatist Empire, is that all the leading presidential candidates are fully engulfed and committed to that exact corporatist Empire --- and they will not whisper even one word of 'Empire' [just check their speeches and web sites]

'Empire' is the biggest taboo word in the US ---- much more taboo than 'Israel Lobby' ever was.

The only presidential candidate who will tell the truth about the singular cancer of 'corporatist Empire' infecting and 'shocking' our entire political body is Ralph Nader.

Interestingly, Al Gore comes close in his fabulous (but seldom mentioned) new book, "The Assault on Reason", in which he characterizes the common problem with America being the complete take-over of our government by a "radical right-wing, corporatist 'faction' which holds in utter contempt that any concept of 'a public interest' even exists."

Nader says corporatist empire, while Gore says corporatist faction, but the key to the American people ever beating this corporatist Empire that 'shocks' and divides our efforts to fight many different problems is to unify frustration with the wars and the economy and solidify our attack on the common corporatist Empire that is the hidden singular cause of all 'shocks' and disasters --- both foreign and domestic.

As Hannah Arendt presciently warned decades ago in the era of the Nazi Empire, "Empire abroad (always) entails tyranny at home."

Anti-Empire, combining both anti-war and economic oppression, should be the rallying cry of '08.

"It's the Empire, stupid"

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» Yo! Her last name is KLEIN!!! Posted by: LeftWright
Here is the plan!
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 1, 2008 7:45 AM   
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The belief that wide-sweeping and massive change to the political and economic model of the USA, and its global hegemony, prior to November, is possible, is pure idiocy.

That anyone would waste their time and money running around like Chicken Little before November to do this, is deeply deluded. Let's put Naomi's grandstanding for her book sales aside, and start thinking straight.

The Italian political philosopher Gramsci cracked it many years ago: the only way to change the paradigm of the society and economy, is to establish networks of economic and social support that over time, make the state look silly and superfluous.

Progressives and the left in the US represent a massive amount of wealth and political and economic leverage. But as somebody pointed out above, when you go to demos it is nothing but a million interest groups screaming for their own little cause. From that moment you are defeated. Stop wasting time and money on Democrat candidates.

Until there is some sense of a common cause, until there is a direct economic connection between Michael Moore's check book and guys lining up for food stamps, until there is a network of community groups and co-ops, and businesses, etc. that have at least a small sense of solidarity and unity, then you will not be able to substantially change the system.

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» RE: Here is the plan! Posted by: left_libertarian
With all due respect to Klein and Scahill
Posted by: CJC on Apr 1, 2008 8:58 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I agree with all the posters above who remind us that fundamental change is where the action has to be.

Klein and Scahill sound nostalgic for the 60's, which they are far too young to have experienced. I know Klein's parents were among those who went to Canada in the 60's to escape the draft etc. I don't know about Scahill's background that way. But I do know that both Klein and Scahill are my children's generation.

I went to two big demonstrations in recent years that were roundly ignored by the media. So why bother? And why should I stand on the street corner with a "Get Out of Iraq Now" sign in Cambridge, MA where I live? Whom would I be persuading?

My husband and I donned warm clothes and joined hundreds of thousands in NYC on Feb 15 2003. The US establishment said "So?" Driving home from Bridgeport CT (where we had parked before taking the train to NYC) after the demonstration we listened to Sylvia Poggioli's report on NPR on the massive demonstration in Rome and waited for the report from what we had just participated in. Not a word, as far as I remember. If you march in the streets but the media ignore you, did it happen? How many of us ever heard about the demonstrations in Washington, D. C. on the occasion of Bush's first inauguration??? Much less reading/seeing reports at the time?

I also massed with about a million women (mostly) who came from all over the country to demonstrate for women's reproductive rights on the Mall in Washington in April 2004. That wasn't reported much either. My elderly aunt had come with friends from Los Angeles, but my Washington area hosts, employees of the World Bank of all things, had heard nothing about this impending demonstration. The media have been disgustingly complicit in reporting and ignoring whatever the Bush administration wanted.

So why go out in the streets? It's a waste of effort and makes you think you're accomplishing something.

It may be that Obama's statement that what we need is a change of attitude, a different mind set, is just a way of acknowledging the problem without any serious thought about how to address it. But rhetorically he's right on. Clinton ("I voted for the war and no I won't explain or apologize.") is right to say she'd be opposed to Blackwater etc, but what does she mean? Blackwater's just a symptom of the much deeper problem.

In this fall's election either Democrat is infinitely preferable to McCain (no Nader or Green Party votes, they're a waste). I agree that we should be trying to get the ear of the Obama and Clinton campaigns, but that's barely a start.

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There is only one hope for America.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 1, 2008 8:57 AM   
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Barack Obama.

If Hillary or McCain win the presidency, nothing will change. That may happen with Obama in the White House as well, but at least he offers hope that America's middle class and working poor can take back their country from the Corporate Elite.

Clinton fans who disagree will have second thoughts if and when the Billary tax returns are made public, making crystal clear their financial ties to the Rich and Powerful.

It will be interesting to hear Hillary explain why her hubby took $500,000 to help Arabs get control of our harbors during the Dubai Ports fiasco.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican and author of George Dub-ya Bush, THE PHONY FIGHTER PILOT, published in 2004.

To read a sample chapter and learn about the only smoking-gun proof of White House corruption ever found on the Internet, visit www.PhonyFighterPilot.com.

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rwbehan
Posted by: RWBehan on Apr 1, 2008 9:18 AM   
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This is a disappointing heap of blather from a distinguished writer. An opportunity for the antiwar movement? Perhaps, but Ms. Klein offers no tactics. I suppose we could send emails to the Obama and Clinton campaigns....

A waste of time to read this. AlterNet might better have ignored it.

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When signs, rallies, non-violence don't work, revolution is next.
Posted by: thekidde on Apr 1, 2008 9:44 AM   
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The American revolution was initiated and fomented by a few, who, by the strength of their character and arguments, rallied enough of the people to overthrow mercenaries and the Crown of England. Sic semper tyrannis - made infamous by Booth, but appropriate to BushCo, the corporatists and oligarchs and Friedamnites who have destroyed America and her founding principles that have yet to be fully realized. Eat the rich.

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Personal growth
Posted by: willymack on Apr 1, 2008 10:05 AM   
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I don't know about anybody else, but in the short time I've been observing Barack Obama, I've seen him change and adapt to changing conditions with impressive ease. To say he's a quick study would be an understatement. This also means he's ameanable to good ideas put the right way. Two good ideas I'd put to him are immediate, unconditional withdrawal from Iraq, and a redo of his wishy-washy health care plan to one of not-for-profit, single payer extention of Medicare for everyone. Insurance companies and drug companies need not apply. An HONEST dialogue on these and other areas needs to be established via two-way communication at his speeches.

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» RE: Personal growth Posted by: Lauren
More from Naomi Klein
Posted by: CJC on Apr 1, 2008 10:37 AM   
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This Alternet story is where action is, in my opinion. I think Klein has a contribution to the comments.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/80806/

More than marching, even those who think of ourselves has right-minded and well informed need to keep reading and learning.

As I mentioned in that other comment section it's telling about the indifference of so many of us that the 2008 Academy Award winning documentary "Taxi to the Dark Side" (about abduction and torture) has already disappeared from theaters, or at least where I live in Cambridge, MA.

Maybe we should go out and march to advertise this film!

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The old "whisper in the donkey's ear" story?
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 1, 2008 12:15 PM   
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You know. The one where the farmer forgot to tell the field hand that first you need to get the donkey's attention by clouting him with a two by four? Then you can whisper in his ear.

Power has learned to tune out even massive peaceful demonstrations. They are able to stay in power with propaganda. It is only by threatening their power that they will become inclined to listen. So Klein and Scahill have their eye on the prize. But the consequences of what they preach intimidate even them.

Today, in order to win you must be willing to lose. Until the *deciders* feel their own well-being is challenged, peaceful protest remains mere entertainment.

As written upthread, until we get organized, we are ignorable. Even then, we remain tractable until our leadership calls for labor strikes, boycotts, tax refusal, resistance. All the rest is palaver.

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Militray Industrial Complex, Donating to Dems.
Posted by: Andie927 on Apr 1, 2008 2:31 PM   
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More then Repugs.! Does this tell you anything? They know, it will buy them influence, or they wouldn't give them money!

The Green Party, doesn't take any Corporate Money! That's why they can put it in writting, they support Media Reform, Universal S-P/N-P, healthCARE not Insurance. That's why they can say they'll cut military spending. They support Election Reform, with Instant Run-Off elections, and paper ballots.

The Democratic Party is NOT going to listen. Have they yet? Have you found their party platform, in writting? Where are they on a Living Wage? I'm tired to tears, hearing about it takes 60 votes, it didn't the Republicans. Why? Because the Republicans vote together, Unlike the Democratic Blue-Dogs (with Red-Fleas). The Progressive Democrats can't count on their votes, they vote with the Republicans more then the Dems. Some Party.

All Green Party candidates, run on the Party Platform! You know where they stand, and how they'll vote. They can't be bought.

Yes, if you live in a swing-state, or your blue state is ifee, vote D., to stop McCain. But don't donate, or register as a Democrat. Vote Green, where and when you can. They have over a thousand candidates, hundreds in office NOW! Yes, little state, or city positions, but it's a start.

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SO WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS:
Posted by: CambridgeGal on Apr 1, 2008 3:09 PM   
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IN the white house or OUT of iraq.

Rank 'em!

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3 Candidates for the Military Industrial Complex
Posted by: nonein2008 on Apr 1, 2008 5:01 PM   
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You hit it directly. In spite of the talk, all 3 candidates are funded and run by the military industrial complex machine. War is good for business. They can put up 3 candidates with different facades, but the end result will be identical paths to profits.
The facade is simply presented to make us think we have a choice and say. Reality is very different.

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 1, 2008 5:32 PM   
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Shillary and SmoovB are fascist "good cops".

A Vote of Confidence Amendment will enable us to remove politicians who fail to respond to the public will.

VOCA, Now!

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New tactic, shove the war in the face of all politicians
Posted by: Oscar Lewis on Apr 1, 2008 6:36 PM   
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Yes, a new tactic is needed.

Here's mine. I made a short YouTube video, in it I showed triumphant poses of my Senator, Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) along with video clips and images of the war. After about one week and over 800 viewings, YouTube banned it. I've since posted it on my web site and replaced the original YouTube video with a kinder/gentler version.

Please consider watching this:
http://nukular-waste.tripod.com/nukular-waste.htm

Here's the link to the edited YouTube version:
http://nukular-waste.tripod.com/nukular-waste.htm

Apply pressure to stop the bleeding,
Oscar Lewis

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