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Food Bills Getting You Down? Try Dumpster Diving
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My nerdiness is showing: Before we get out of the car, I turn to my partner in crime and ask, "What's the plan?"
Dan looks at me. I've heard about dumpster diving, and read about dumpster diving, but in conversations and articles that seemed to identify it as the pursuit of anarchists and gutter punks --nothing that served as a guide for upwardly mobile middle-class squares. A few weeks ago, though, some hippie Dan went to high school with mentioned she was going to Trader Joe's to score for free the very same foodstuffs we paid good money for. It was just as good, just as edible and sanitarily packaged, and it didn't cost $100 a week if it just came out of the trash, she said. We felt like suckers.
"You're gonna get in there and grab the shit," Dan says. He starts laughing at me, like, what do I mean what's the plan? When I still don't make a move, he says, "Now ... break!"
We walk to the dumpster across the parking lot, but no one's around, and no one suddenly appears and starts yelling, as I'm for some reason expecting. We're in the kind of upscale outdoor mall complex where dumpsters are surrounded by gates, but the kind of gates that serve cosmetic rather than security purposes and give way easily when pushed. So just like that, I'm standing in front of a giant metal trash receptacle, one taller than me, with a chest-high opening in it. I quickly and incorrectly assess it, deciding that I can approach my objective from the outside and just reach in to gingerly lift the goods out.
My dreams of clean and easy die quickly; the dumpster is less than a quarter full, and I can't get hold of anything but piles of discarded shrink-wrap. "I don't think there's any food in here, pal," I say, disappointed, but maybe a bit relieved. I'm about to advocate giving up and going home when I pull out a cardboard box containing three sealed bags of perfectly comestible banana chips. "Except how there's food right here."
Picking up that first handful of free groceries is a bit like Christmas, exciting, enchanting. I hadn't known what I was going to get, so I hold the goods out in front of me for inspection. And here it is, my favorite kind of present: something I want and can actually use. I feel satisfied and, absurdly, a little proud. I planted some initiative, and it is bearing fruit, sliced, deep-fried, hermetically sealed pieces of fruit. I grab the sides of the window into the dumpster and climb in.
It wasn't an especially big throw-away day at the store, but I stand shin-deep amid the waste with a snake light wrapped around my neck, tearing open huge clear plastic garbage bags and examining their contents for salvageable eats. A sweet pepper, a dented tub of chocolate chip cookies, yes. A package of precooked sausages leaking juice out of a hole in the package, no. Half-pound hunks of somewhat moldy Monterey Jack cheese, sure. I sink my cotton-gloved hands into some items wet and unsavory-busted salsa containers, broken eggs, smashed bananas, while rain drips through the crack in the two-piece lid above my head. Liquid soaks into my socks: milk, I think, from the layer of discarded half-gallon cartons lining the bottom of the dumpster.
"This is actually a little grosser than I thought it was going to be," I say, as, even though I earlier pictured myself standing in a giant trash bin, I never actually considered the tactile details. I work out a system, sifting thoroughly through one corner first and then tossing bags into it after I clear it for items I want, which I hand to Dan. Nobody comes by. Nobody asks us what the hell we think we're doing. Half an hour after we parked the car, we walk back to it with seven plastic bags full of food. We go home, unload our groceries, just like we would after any other trip, and take showers, unlike we would after any other trip. We eat some garbage cookies, and go to bed.
It was a lucrative score: two bananas, one half-gallon of organic 2 percent milk, two prepared and packaged Asian-style noodle salads with ginger cilantro lime dressing, one red pepper, one orange pepper, one package prewashed salad, one package Asian stir-fry mix, one package organic mini chocolate chip cookies, one prepared and packaged chef salad, one prepared and packaged Greek salad, one prepared and packaged chicken Caesar salad, one sausage and roasted tomato pizza, one package sliced white mushrooms, six apricots, two bags cocktail tomatoes, three carrot and ranch dip snack packs, a half a pound of ginger, 1.5 pounds petite Yukon gold potatoes, 1 pound green olives, 1.5 pounds eggs, 1.5 pounds Monterey Jack cheese, 3 pounds California minneolas, 5 pounds clementines, 2 pounds rainbow carrots, three packages banana chips, one package fresh basil, 24 roma tomatoes, one package fat-free crumbled feta, one prepared and packaged fresh mozzarella and focaccia sandwich, two mixed flower bouquets, one bouquet Gerber daisies, and one dozen rainbow roses.
The next morning, Dan is already making cheese omelets and fried potatoes with our booty when I saunter out of bed. At lunch, we split the focaccia sandwich (after we scraped the mold off the mozzarella), and I invent a banana, apricot, and clementine smoothie. As I walk around our apartment, abloom with fresh flowers, I feel unusually fulfilled by the glass of dairy and pulp in my hand. It's not like I grew the fruit. Still, I've come by it by slightly more industrious means than grocery shopping, and I can't wait for the impending week of garbage dinner.
The USDA says Dan and I each eat almost 5 pounds of food every day, but more than enough food gets tossed in the United States for us to scavenge from: about 100 billion pounds annually, in fact, enough to also feed the entire great states of California and New York, more than a sixth of the entire population of the country. Retailers are responsible for some 70 percent of that waste, $30 billion worth. Even recovering just 5 percent of American food waste would feed the whole of New Zealand for a day. And if heartbreaking resource squandering isn't a compelling enough reason to dumpster dive, there's thriftiness. If you're like most Americans, you spend about 13 percent of your income on eating -- and environmental impact. In 2006, more than 12 percent of total municipal solid waste was food. And if you have neither hippie sensibilities, nor pocketbook constraints, nor a soul, how about good old-fashioned economic sense: putting said food into landfills costs taxpayers $50 million a year.
All things considered, the arguments for dumpster diving seem stronger than any against it. Though some cities and states have passed laws criminalizing it (it's not a federal offense, as the Supreme Court ruled in 1988 that searching and seizing garbage isn't prohibited), and the fact that our particular dumpster lives inside a fence means accessing it probably requires trespassing, cops don't generally patrol my grocery store parking lot at night, and I'd be surprised if I couldn't sweet-talk or run my way out of an incident with any officer bored enough to instigate one. There's also the concern, voiced by many of my friends, that food from a dumpster could be bad for you. Indeed, Dan has to drink half a glass of the milk and exhibit no signs of disaster for 20 minutes before I'm convinced it's safe. And all week, for about an hour after I eat, a small portion of my consciousness inadvertently waits for regrets. But we've got bright bouquets and a huge vat of homemade salsa and a mushroom, tomato, and cheese quiche and crazy smoothies and stir-fried vegetables over noodles, and it was all made possible, free of charge, by trash picking. I have only one concern at the end of the first week of eating garbage, and it's that I didn't take as much as I should have.
When we return the next week, we're like cool, regular shoppers, except that we're freezing -- 150 miles north of us, the sky is dumping a foot of snow on Cleveland. Still, we're not just grabbing madly, enthusiastic but directionless rookies. We have a running conversation about what I've picked up and how we can use it before we take it or I chuck it behind me. I'm neither hurried nor worried, and we score fruits and vegetables and already-mashed potatoes and a potted purple orchid and waffles and chai spice cookies and frozen chicken masala, among other things. We're thoughtful and thorough, and it's 45 minutes before I start to climb back out, tired and accomplished. Not that it's all glamorous. When Dan says, "Watch out for rats," I yell at him for freaking me out, but I am most certainly immersed in the habitat of disease-prone rodents. When I do jump out, it's right onto the ground, right onto my ass when my feet slide out from under me because the pavement is covered in ice. Like last time, we can't find a parking space in our complex when we get back to our apartment because we live in a busy downtown district and it's club-going time on a Friday night. We run the garbage groceries, which for some reason are coated in the smell of trash this time, a block to our building and then up four flights of fire escape to our door. My fingers are that obnoxious biting pain that just precedes numbness, since I buried them in several unidentified stinky wet stuffs, and the wind is cutting across them now as they grip the plastic bags. Everything needs to be washed -- the cellophane on the cheese, the box of waffles -- to get the reek off, and we crack open a box of baking soda and put it in the back of the fridge, hoping it'll help restore appetizingness to our food. It's 2 a.m. by the time we've put everything away, mopped the kitchen floor, rolled my malodorous tomato-and-roasted-red-pepper-soup-splattered clothes into a ball before reluctantly throwing them in with the rest of our laundry, and cleaned ourselves up. I soaked in the bathtub for half an hour to get the cold -- which seeped in during the 40 minutes we had to kill wandering around the shopping center while waiting for the employees to finally leave, the time I spent wallowing in trash, and the additional carry back to the apartment -- out of my system. Lying there, my wrist throbbing from having used it to break my fall on the ice, I felt exhausted and dirty and not a little discouraged.
My socioeconomic surroundings are showing: When my father calls and asks me what I was doing last night and I say, "Dumpster diving," he says, "For what?" And when I say, "For food," there's nothing but silence. Then, as if he hasn't heard me: "What?" My best friend came over a few days earlier and complained that she was hungry. "Do you have any delicious food?" she asked, then reconsidered. "That you haven't gotten out of the garbage?" And yeah, some of the food in our fridge has to be picked free of mold before it can be eaten, and the Jack cheese has a stink that (a) makes me uncomfortable and (b) doesn't want to come off my hands. (Ultimately, we decide to re-toss it.) Yeah, we could have been arrested. Yeah, we could get food poisoning, or rabies. But when we roll out of bed late the morning after our second dive, the apartment smells fine, and we fix a breakfast of trash waffles and bananas before sitting down to make a list of groceries we still need. We consider our loot. We can make havarti, rice, and broccoli casserole. Spinach quesadillas with cheddar, mushrooms, and sauteed sweet peppers, with homemade salsa. Mashed sweet potatoes or sweet potato chowder. Warm green bean and tomato salad. Stir fry. Banana smoothies. We've recovered an entire apple pie. We figure our meal plan four different ways, and have so much food left over that we freeze some. When we finish the list of groceries we have to buy for two people for a whole week, it contains exactly five items.
Before we started dumpster diving, Dan pointed out that it would probably change our eating habits. I like to make enchiladas, for example, but it's unlikely that beans, rice, cheese, tomatoes, onions, and tortillas are all going to happen into the dumpster at the same time. I wouldn't normally eat carrots and ranch dip for breakfast, or salad for dessert, but the organizing principle of our diet has changed from "What do I want to eat?" to "What do I have? What can I make with it?" -- a much more traditional (and at the same time ultramodern, as eating local has come back into fashion) type of interaction with food. Once, when we were working on an organic farm in the South Pacific, the owner told us that if we were true ecologists, we would during the feijoa season eat only feijoas, the little green fruits that his orchard was showering us with. Like then, I won't now make such extreme compromises -- I refuse, for example, to live without milk or olive oil, so we spend $20 at the grocery store that week.
Still. We could be spending $0 on food by harvesting waste, and even with my unwillingness to make stir fry instead of cereal for breakfast, in just two trips we saved hundreds of dollars. We ate things we never would have, got creative with our menus, kept 60 pounds of edible "garbage" out of a landfill.
Dumpster diving is another one of those things that I should do for both money and the environment's sake, like buying only used clothes or not taking long, hot showers. It's kind of like going to the gym: You never want to, but after you have, you feel like you've really achieved something. The next week, though, the snow comes south and hard. Then soon after that, I get a new job and move, and the dumpsters in my neighborhood are inside garages I can't get into, and I work a lot of overtime, and I have a litany of other excuses for not salvaging groceries anymore (as I do for not taking short, cold showers). It's another way that I'm part of the culture of waste, wasting resources, wasting money.
Standing at the sink one day in my trash-eating time, I had a moment of characteristic grace in which I somehow tossed the quiche I was holding down the garbage disposal. I cursed, then threw down my dish towel, and then my shoulders. Dan, sensing a tantrum, rushed into the kitchen from the other room. "It's OK, pal," he said. "It was from the garbage anyway." True. But I couldn't believe I'd done it, just like I can't believe restaurants and grocery stores around the country so recklessly and wildly dump whole analogous quiches down the metaphorical drain every second. Like I feel a little ridiculous shopping at Trader Joe's when I know that for every four tomatoes I once took out of the dumpster, I left four dozen.
That one time, there were more than 100 pounds of discarded bananas in the parking lot, that I could entirely subsistent on trash without even making a dent in it, that for every bag of salad that made it from the garbage to my fridge, there were five more that someone else could've eaten. For the grocers and restaurateurs, throwing the food in dumpsters is, however exorbitantly wasteful, a matter of convenience. As leaving it there is for me. "I don't know," one of my friends says when I try to talk her into just getting her food out of the garbage. "That's a really good idea. But it sounds like a lot of work."
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 1, 2008 3:19 AM
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I buy those packages of discounted tomatoes, peppers, etc. from the back of the produce section. I'd be willing to pay a few cents for other things that might otherwise end up in the dumpster, depending on what it is. What they really need is to expand the discount section of all stores so we don't have to climb in dumpsters and get arrested or fight the rats. This way, everybody wins, including the store owner and the rats.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Apr 1, 2008 3:22 AM
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If expired (but edible) food were donated to the homeless there would be an outcry - how dare they!
I also dislike the odor of writer-ly disdain in that "waiting for the employees to finally leave" part. Try working in a store like that to understand what's necessary and, maybe, what's not, in order to make changes in the system you deem wasteful.
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Apr 1, 2008 3:42 AM
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"I can't believe restaurants and grocery stores around the country so recklessly and wildly dump whole analogous quiches down the metaphorical drain every second."
What's even worse is when they padlock the dumpsters and the police drive away, harass, or punish the poor and homeless for looking for food. I knew another place to get food that was later padlocked and the police regularly patrolled to keep people from getting the trash.
This article got me thinking I need to go see if I can find some new places to get food. However, where I live is inhospitable to such actions. That's a shame.
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Back in the early 80's, when I was in my mid-teens, I accidentally happened upon a pile of Hustler, Cherri, Playboy, and Oui magazines - all free - out back of our local CVS Pharmacy. Back then, I drove a moped after school and on weekends which I had earned from delivering papers. On this day I was taking a usual shortcut behind a nearby strip mall when I noticed several seemingly perfect items laying near the CVS dumpster. After inspecting the booty, I realized it was intended for the trash so I peeked inside the dumpster. Win! Before my very eyes was a high-school students dream come true - an assortment of the latest adult magazines in mint condition sans their front cover. Apparently, the covers are returned to their distributor for credit - and god forbid chain stores should recycle. There were paperback dictionaries, almanacs, and Harlequin-type romance novels, missing covers of course, and strewn throughout the pile. I collected as many smut-filled magazines as I could shove down my shirt and into the moped carrying compartment then drove away while worrying I might be busted for being a minor possessing pornography.
The next day at school I presented my find to the guys in the locker room and I became an instant celebrity. Of course I refrained from giving the exact location of my score so that more magazines would be there the following month. Every Saturday, until I turned 17, was spend peeking into pharmacy dumpsters for free reading material. To this day convenience stores and other retailers throw their readables into the trash when new versions are released. These days, however, I prefer Suduku, word-search, and crossword magazines.
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last discussions I'd envision of the future. All the
money shifted to the war profiteering Cheney folk now.
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Posted by: dinosaursr on Apr 1, 2008 4:57 AM
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What's most outrageous is, as others said, police, security and the stores trying to keep people from dumpstering. It's absurd to me that the Trader Joe's and Whole Food's are supposedly progressive and the ones in my area (we have five or so) use trash compactors and lock their dumpsters with high gates. Before Trader Joe's did, they had some of the best scores I've ever dumpstered, but I guess everyone else in the area dumpstered there, too. The only other grocery store in central NC that doesn't use trash compactors is Food Lion. Other good chains to dumpster are Dunkin Donuts, Brueger's Bagels, and in general any bakeries around.
One time an elderly homeless Korean woman who knew very little English was trying to get into the dumpster after us, so we just shared all of our food from that dumpster with her and I gave her a bouquet of roses I found, too. She smiled real big and gave me a hug, and that was really nice. (:
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Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Apr 1, 2008 5:22 AM
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And rice, rice is cheap.
This is an article long-needed to be written, and I thank the author.
Dumpster diving illuminates a real morally ambiguos connundrum.
The solution is an economy centered around food production, as well as a valuing of time.
There is a wiser way to society, that's fairly obvious, a swifter, less wasteful, productive society. But the problem is time-wasting unproductive jobs. Christianity and capitalism are inimical. Did you need all the school you got? People should not go their own way in the economy, that's precisely what people should discuss together. But as long as the locus of discussion is dominated by the local elect and not the people at a local level; fair discussion of the economy ain't happening
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Posted by: wagadog on Apr 1, 2008 5:54 AM
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So next time some greedy-ass property developer wants to put a high-density "smart growth" VMU uranisme "Green" Walkable 10-story "luxury condominium homes" piece of shit in your neighborhood -- think about what it will accomplish when nobody can grow their own friggin' vegetables, and nobody can afford to have them trucked in from california: dumpster diving.
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Posted by: DrSuess on Apr 1, 2008 6:18 AM
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I helped for several years by going weekly to Trader Joes, filling my Chevy Malibu as full as it would go with all the food that was coming out of one store in a several day period. The quantity was unbelievable. There were several time that I had to leave some stuff because my Chevy Malibu couldn’t hold it all. I then drove the food downtown to three different charities, the Women’s shelter, Horizon House, and Wheeler Missions. All of these charities helped give free meals to people in need. In Indianapolis, if you go dumpster diving at Trader Joe’s- you will not find anything of consequence- we have taken it to a far better home.
It is interesting that the more socially conscious stores like Trader Joes would help the homeless, but larger stores like Marsh would not.
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Sorry...please don't shoot the messenger!!
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Posted by: Prairie Waif on Apr 1, 2008 6:40 AM
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I have news for you AMERICA--->the majority of food bank customers are working poor and the poor who have roofs over their heads but cannot afford food or enough food to give them enough caloric intake to give them the energy needed to function on a job site.
As the housing crisis continues to roll across the nation, it will only become more severe.
I do not buy groceries any more, the way "real" people do. I pay my bills, often spread out over months, and buy what are staples at my house, coffee, flour, oil, oatmeal, raisins and maybe a bag of frozen veggies. That's my shopping for the month.
You will see a great many more "Me's as troops returning from The Great Follies come back with the same disorder that has taken me out of the workforce; PTSD. I have Delayed-Onset Severe Complex PTSD. It is an Anxitey Disorder of the highest order and a lot more.
My $760/month breakdown, $600/rent (nope, no vacancy even if I could afford to move, I am at the "cheap digs" level for a University town), $30 utilities, $50 Telephone&internet, $40 Basic Cable (no TV otherwise), $25 Transportation, Leftover? Cleaning supplies then food.
I recently found a job of which I am able to do without difficulty and stress; I am a 45-year-old paper "girl" who can handle delivering 15 papers a day. Not 20, 15.
After 3 months of never missing a day? I am quite proud of myself. I am having problems getting to the food bank as I only am paid 2.5 cents for each paper I deliver.
We are not homeless, we are hungry.
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Posted by: wellaware lec on Apr 1, 2008 7:15 AM
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Keep in mind, had I been at that counter about 45 seconds earlier, I would have paid full price for that "garbage". My option was to fill out a form for complaint that, well, who knows where it would have gone. This stimulates me to pursue this again, more intensely. THANK YOU FOR THIS ARTICLE...I will pass it along to others...
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Posted by: messedup on Apr 1, 2008 8:15 AM
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I don't care for chips myself but will dive into other dumpsters from time to time.
If you burn wood for heat, take a look at a construction dumpster sometime. What a waste eh?
Another company that wastes food?, Sysco foods corporation, if one package in a case is bad the whole case is bad! It's all a write off, but if your an employee they will fire you for raiding the dumpster!
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Posted by: CommentCulture on Apr 1, 2008 8:48 AM
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I'm on a liquid diet. High Protein / fiber and Chia seed.
Cost: about
$150.00 a month including the 1% milk.
My treats:
Skinless boneless chicken breast and / or a piece of Ruffian Orange once per month.
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That being said, I often take any non food item out of the trash of my apartment building. If I can't use it, I take it to the recycling exchange for someone else. I would take bouquets out of dumpsters in a heart beat!
Is someone HAS to dumpster dive, Trader Joe's would be the best place. It is my favorite store!!! Not only are they great, I can avoid the negativity of all the tabloids of regular supermarkets. I just can't stand them. Maybe Trader Joes should have some type of discount plan so they can minimize waste. I remember being in a Trader Joe's once, and an employee came up to me and asked if I wanted a tub of gaspachio (sp?) because he was going to have to toss it. I said sure and it was fine. Good idea!!!
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 1, 2008 11:08 AM
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When we did become homeless (campgrounded and shelter-rotated--most Americans don't realize that men aren't allowed in homeless shelters with their wives and kids; I slept in the truck and got "moved along" by the cops every night) after Countrywide took the condo, I dumpster dove. But now WF and TJ's and Ralphs and Vons and Gelsons in the Conejo area have locks on their dumpsters and hte cops patrol. One guy who lived in the culvert off the 101 was so pissed off at this, saying, "you god damned rich people had to catch onto my survival technique and now I'm shit outta luck, selfish fuckers." He has a point, but plain and simple, I may have section 8 housing now, but that doesn't mean I get to eat... there will only be more of us fighting over those now-locked dumpsters 22,000 foreclosures this past week alone. My next project is figuring out how to pick locks. Oh, and BTW, when you go to apply for a job now, they check your credit. If you have a default or foreclosure you need not apply to most jobs. Pinkberry and TJ's both turned me down on the basis of my credit report. I know the richy folk think it's not a recession, but from where I sit, it's a fucking depression already. Every day I get more and more angry and at some point, thoughts of a neo-French revolt may not be the fevered fantasy of social deviants like me.
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SERIOUSLY: dude went to JAIL for diving, Eating from Dumpster Diving Now a Crime in US...
Land of the FREE!!!
on a more amusing note:
Dumpster Diver Dies Of The Garbage Bends on Odeo
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My BF and I are thinking about diving for food, but I need to check my area's laws first. We live in an uppity-wealthy county, so I would not be surprised if it's against the law here. I even had a couple of locals email me about starting a group to do it. I told them I'm going to check the laws.
I'm about to be laid off from my job. You're darned right I'm checking out all my options!
~J-Mo
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Time to march on Washington and CHANGE things, instead of accepting this low life solution!
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Time to march on Washington and CHANGE things, instead of accepting this low life solution!
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===
Spirit Of The West - Loaded Minds
young boy is killed by a gun-toting driver
he caught him cuase the kid went too far
when the mad was asked why
he replied with conviction
"i caught the young punk throwing stones at my car"
...stones at my car...
Uncle Sam's on the billboard
Stars n Stripes shining
as I drive by he's a message for me
the sign reads The Constant Preparation for War
this is the preservation of Peace
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's Life for
crossing over our Fence
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's Life for crossing over our fence
that's the Freedom
tricks on his door sent an old man's heart racing
tricks on his mind broke his patience in two
he answers the door
... ! with the crack of a rifle !
paper boy dies delivering the News
...he becomes the News...
fold heroes and murders
they're condoned and condemned
they're crucified and idolized
for taking their stand
is this how we live?
all good people on guard
defending our Rights
in the home and native land
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's Life
for crossing over our Fence
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's life for crossing over your fence
that's the Freedom!
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Posted by: VickyinSD on Apr 2, 2008 9:41 AM
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Every Thursday at 9 p.m. we go to the bread store and haul away their "day old" bread... bread that they normally toss at the end of the day.
We get huge garbage bags full of bagels, muffins, cakes, breakfast pastries, sliced loaves normally used for sandwiches, un-sliced loaves of the same breads, sourdough rounds that can be filled with soups... you name it, whatever they have left over! This haul is usually a couple hundred pounds of bread products, and is way too much for either of us!
So we go through it, pick what we want for ourselves, then on Friday we deliver the rest to a local charity that helps feed the homeless and needy in the area. It's a win-win for everybody!
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Posted by: Malcolm Calder on Apr 2, 2008 1:15 PM
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Here is a photo I took a couple years ago, while initiating two into the Holy Rites, for the countlessth. Notice the ease-of-pickings from this open-top Dumpster. Anyone can pull the lid up and snatch out whatever elicits drool, without sloshing around in unknown muck.
The author's account is entertaining, but her diligence, while appropriate for the story, isn't often necessary for shopping's sake. One can usually lean over into the kind of Dumpster she describes and pull close for inspection any promising bags within reach. Some stores throw out plenty every day, throughout the day; others more intermittently, on some kind of schedule. It's good to learn schedules for your regular stores, so far as they exist.
SANITATION seems to be a big concern for many, understandably. Obviously, one must take precautions, but 94.2% of that is common sense. I have never gotten ill from Dumpster Dining (nor, as far as I know, has anyone who has received groceries from me). Dumpsters often open up to the mephitic bacterial stink of endless cycles of decomposition, so I will sometimes spray a bleach solution around the inside of one if I happen to find it empty (or nearly so), if I happen to have some handy. This is nice. NOT nice is when employees bleach the food to render it inesculent (it's true, some do).
Perhaps sometime I should write a more detailed how-to? Considering how inordinately, obscenely wasteful modern civilization is, it's not just practical: we may think of it as doing our part to reduce our collective "footprint" on the Planet, to re-balance, however slightly (or even symbolically), one of the gross imbalances of our Earthly lifestyle.
Finding unexpected delights never stops being cool, either (right now: chocolate-dipped apricots and figs).
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Here is a photo I took a couple years ago, while initiating two into the Holy Rites, for the countlessth. Notice the ease-of-pickings from this open-top Dumpster. Anyone can pull the lid up and snatch out whatever elicits drool, without sloshing around in unknown muck.
The author's account is entertaining, but her diligence, while appropriate for the story, isn't often necessary for shopping's sake. One can usually lean over into the kind of Dumpster she describes and pull close for inspection any promising bags within reach. Some stores throw out plenty every day, throughout the day; others more intermittently, on some kind of schedule. It's good to learn schedules for your regular stores, so far as they exist.
SANITATION seems to be a big concern for many, understandably. Obviously, one must take precautions, but 94.2% of that is common sense. I have never gotten ill from Dumpster Dining (nor, as far as I know, has anyone who has received groceries from me). Dumpsters often open up to the mephitic bacterial stink of endless cycles of decomposition, so I will sometimes spray a bleach solution around the inside of one if I happen to find it empty (or nearly so), if I happen to have some handy. This is nice. NOT nice is when employees bleach the food to render it inesculent (it's true, some do).
Perhaps sometime I should write a more detailed how-to? Considering how inordinately, obscenely wasteful modern civilization is, it's not just practical: we may think of it as doing our part to reduce our collective "footprint" on the Planet, to re-balance, however slightly (or even symbolically), one of the gross imbalances of our Earthly lifestyle.
Finding unexpected delights never stops being cool, either (right now: chocolate-dipped apricots and figs).
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Meet the private security firm that spied on Greenpeace and other environmental outfits for its corporate clients. A tale of intrigue, infiltration, & dumpster-diving.
Mother Jones has exposed that a security firm run by ex Secret Service agents spied on Greenpeace, Fenton Communications, the Center for Food Safety, & others...
The smoking gun documents show that Beckett Brown International (BBI), collected confidential records—donor lists, detailed financial statements, the Social Security numbers of staff members, strategy memos—from these groups & produced intelligence reports for public relations firms & major corporations involved in environmental controversies.
BBI also conducted background checks for the Carlyle Group, the Washington-based investment firm; provided "protective services" for the NRA; handled "crisis management" for the Gallo wine company; engaged in "information collection" for Wal-Mart.
... Also listed as clients in BBI records: Halliburton & Blackwater.
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The Thieves of Virtue: without the PUBLIC WILL for PRIVACY, criminalizing vice functionally aborts representative government.
"FBI Deputizes Private Contractors With Extraordinary Powers, Including 'Shoot to Kill'"
Naked Truth: Civil Rights & CNN coverage of "F.B.I. biometric database - 'Server in the Sky'"
thoughts on 'The Fear Factory'
"corruption is why we win":
"Yell Fire!": Bush to freeze peace activist assets? - Executive Order to "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
NSA's Domestic Spying Grows As Agency Sweeps Up Data
thoughts on the new US Project Hostile Intent (PHI)
Watching the "Ownership Society": follow-ups on Shareholder Surveillance
InfraGard & O'Reilly? Olbermann interviewed O'Reilly caller who was contacted by "Fox News security": did O'Reilly mean INFRAGARD representatives?
"FBI Deputizes Private Contractors With Extraordinary Powers, Including 'Shoot to Kill'"
without the WILL for PRIVACY... there IS NO DEMOCRACY...
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"do no harm"
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 1, 2008 3:19 AM
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I buy those packages of discounted tomatoes, peppers, etc. from the back of the produce section. I'd be willing to pay a few cents for other things that might otherwise end up in the dumpster, depending on what it is. What they really need is to expand the discount section of all stores so we don't have to climb in dumpsters and get arrested or fight the rats. This way, everybody wins, including the store owner and the rats.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Apr 1, 2008 3:22 AM
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If expired (but edible) food were donated to the homeless there would be an outcry - how dare they!
I also dislike the odor of writer-ly disdain in that "waiting for the employees to finally leave" part. Try working in a store like that to understand what's necessary and, maybe, what's not, in order to make changes in the system you deem wasteful.
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» RE: "Yeah, we could get food poisoning, or rabies" - oh someone will!
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» Thanks - that's what I wanted to know
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» & see Trader Joe's post below by leavemlaughing
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» nobody supports *sanitation unions* but they GET HEPATITIS
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Apr 1, 2008 3:42 AM
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"I can't believe restaurants and grocery stores around the country so recklessly and wildly dump whole analogous quiches down the metaphorical drain every second."
What's even worse is when they padlock the dumpsters and the police drive away, harass, or punish the poor and homeless for looking for food. I knew another place to get food that was later padlocked and the police regularly patrolled to keep people from getting the trash.
This article got me thinking I need to go see if I can find some new places to get food. However, where I live is inhospitable to such actions. That's a shame.
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Back in the early 80's, when I was in my mid-teens, I accidentally happened upon a pile of Hustler, Cherri, Playboy, and Oui magazines - all free - out back of our local CVS Pharmacy. Back then, I drove a moped after school and on weekends which I had earned from delivering papers. On this day I was taking a usual shortcut behind a nearby strip mall when I noticed several seemingly perfect items laying near the CVS dumpster. After inspecting the booty, I realized it was intended for the trash so I peeked inside the dumpster. Win! Before my very eyes was a high-school students dream come true - an assortment of the latest adult magazines in mint condition sans their front cover. Apparently, the covers are returned to their distributor for credit - and god forbid chain stores should recycle. There were paperback dictionaries, almanacs, and Harlequin-type romance novels, missing covers of course, and strewn throughout the pile. I collected as many smut-filled magazines as I could shove down my shirt and into the moped carrying compartment then drove away while worrying I might be busted for being a minor possessing pornography.
The next day at school I presented my find to the guys in the locker room and I became an instant celebrity. Of course I refrained from giving the exact location of my score so that more magazines would be there the following month. Every Saturday, until I turned 17, was spend peeking into pharmacy dumpsters for free reading material. To this day convenience stores and other retailers throw their readables into the trash when new versions are released. These days, however, I prefer Suduku, word-search, and crossword magazines.
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last discussions I'd envision of the future. All the
money shifted to the war profiteering Cheney folk now.
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What's most outrageous is, as others said, police, security and the stores trying to keep people from dumpstering. It's absurd to me that the Trader Joe's and Whole Food's are supposedly progressive and the ones in my area (we have five or so) use trash compactors and lock their dumpsters with high gates. Before Trader Joe's did, they had some of the best scores I've ever dumpstered, but I guess everyone else in the area dumpstered there, too. The only other grocery store in central NC that doesn't use trash compactors is Food Lion. Other good chains to dumpster are Dunkin Donuts, Brueger's Bagels, and in general any bakeries around.
One time an elderly homeless Korean woman who knew very little English was trying to get into the dumpster after us, so we just shared all of our food from that dumpster with her and I gave her a bouquet of roses I found, too. She smiled real big and gave me a hug, and that was really nice. (:
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And rice, rice is cheap.
This is an article long-needed to be written, and I thank the author.
Dumpster diving illuminates a real morally ambiguos connundrum.
The solution is an economy centered around food production, as well as a valuing of time.
There is a wiser way to society, that's fairly obvious, a swifter, less wasteful, productive society. But the problem is time-wasting unproductive jobs. Christianity and capitalism are inimical. Did you need all the school you got? People should not go their own way in the economy, that's precisely what people should discuss together. But as long as the locus of discussion is dominated by the local elect and not the people at a local level; fair discussion of the economy ain't happening
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Posted by: wagadog on Apr 1, 2008 5:54 AM
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So next time some greedy-ass property developer wants to put a high-density "smart growth" VMU uranisme "Green" Walkable 10-story "luxury condominium homes" piece of shit in your neighborhood -- think about what it will accomplish when nobody can grow their own friggin' vegetables, and nobody can afford to have them trucked in from california: dumpster diving.
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Posted by: DrSuess on Apr 1, 2008 6:18 AM
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I helped for several years by going weekly to Trader Joes, filling my Chevy Malibu as full as it would go with all the food that was coming out of one store in a several day period. The quantity was unbelievable. There were several time that I had to leave some stuff because my Chevy Malibu couldn’t hold it all. I then drove the food downtown to three different charities, the Women’s shelter, Horizon House, and Wheeler Missions. All of these charities helped give free meals to people in need. In Indianapolis, if you go dumpster diving at Trader Joe’s- you will not find anything of consequence- we have taken it to a far better home.
It is interesting that the more socially conscious stores like Trader Joes would help the homeless, but larger stores like Marsh would not.
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Posted by: openingstar on Apr 1, 2008 6:32 AM
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Sorry...please don't shoot the messenger!!
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Posted by: Prairie Waif on Apr 1, 2008 6:40 AM
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I have news for you AMERICA--->the majority of food bank customers are working poor and the poor who have roofs over their heads but cannot afford food or enough food to give them enough caloric intake to give them the energy needed to function on a job site.
As the housing crisis continues to roll across the nation, it will only become more severe.
I do not buy groceries any more, the way "real" people do. I pay my bills, often spread out over months, and buy what are staples at my house, coffee, flour, oil, oatmeal, raisins and maybe a bag of frozen veggies. That's my shopping for the month.
You will see a great many more "Me's as troops returning from The Great Follies come back with the same disorder that has taken me out of the workforce; PTSD. I have Delayed-Onset Severe Complex PTSD. It is an Anxitey Disorder of the highest order and a lot more.
My $760/month breakdown, $600/rent (nope, no vacancy even if I could afford to move, I am at the "cheap digs" level for a University town), $30 utilities, $50 Telephone&internet, $40 Basic Cable (no TV otherwise), $25 Transportation, Leftover? Cleaning supplies then food.
I recently found a job of which I am able to do without difficulty and stress; I am a 45-year-old paper "girl" who can handle delivering 15 papers a day. Not 20, 15.
After 3 months of never missing a day? I am quite proud of myself. I am having problems getting to the food bank as I only am paid 2.5 cents for each paper I deliver.
We are not homeless, we are hungry.
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Keep in mind, had I been at that counter about 45 seconds earlier, I would have paid full price for that "garbage". My option was to fill out a form for complaint that, well, who knows where it would have gone. This stimulates me to pursue this again, more intensely. THANK YOU FOR THIS ARTICLE...I will pass it along to others...
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I don't care for chips myself but will dive into other dumpsters from time to time.
If you burn wood for heat, take a look at a construction dumpster sometime. What a waste eh?
Another company that wastes food?, Sysco foods corporation, if one package in a case is bad the whole case is bad! It's all a write off, but if your an employee they will fire you for raiding the dumpster!
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I'm on a liquid diet. High Protein / fiber and Chia seed.
Cost: about
$150.00 a month including the 1% milk.
My treats:
Skinless boneless chicken breast and / or a piece of Ruffian Orange once per month.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Apr 1, 2008 9:10 AM
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That being said, I often take any non food item out of the trash of my apartment building. If I can't use it, I take it to the recycling exchange for someone else. I would take bouquets out of dumpsters in a heart beat!
Is someone HAS to dumpster dive, Trader Joe's would be the best place. It is my favorite store!!! Not only are they great, I can avoid the negativity of all the tabloids of regular supermarkets. I just can't stand them. Maybe Trader Joes should have some type of discount plan so they can minimize waste. I remember being in a Trader Joe's once, and an employee came up to me and asked if I wanted a tub of gaspachio (sp?) because he was going to have to toss it. I said sure and it was fine. Good idea!!!
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When we did become homeless (campgrounded and shelter-rotated--most Americans don't realize that men aren't allowed in homeless shelters with their wives and kids; I slept in the truck and got "moved along" by the cops every night) after Countrywide took the condo, I dumpster dove. But now WF and TJ's and Ralphs and Vons and Gelsons in the Conejo area have locks on their dumpsters and hte cops patrol. One guy who lived in the culvert off the 101 was so pissed off at this, saying, "you god damned rich people had to catch onto my survival technique and now I'm shit outta luck, selfish fuckers." He has a point, but plain and simple, I may have section 8 housing now, but that doesn't mean I get to eat... there will only be more of us fighting over those now-locked dumpsters 22,000 foreclosures this past week alone. My next project is figuring out how to pick locks. Oh, and BTW, when you go to apply for a job now, they check your credit. If you have a default or foreclosure you need not apply to most jobs. Pinkberry and TJ's both turned me down on the basis of my credit report. I know the richy folk think it's not a recession, but from where I sit, it's a fucking depression already. Every day I get more and more angry and at some point, thoughts of a neo-French revolt may not be the fevered fantasy of social deviants like me.
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SERIOUSLY: dude went to JAIL for diving, Eating from Dumpster Diving Now a Crime in US...
Land of the FREE!!!
on a more amusing note:
Dumpster Diver Dies Of The Garbage Bends on Odeo
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My BF and I are thinking about diving for food, but I need to check my area's laws first. We live in an uppity-wealthy county, so I would not be surprised if it's against the law here. I even had a couple of locals email me about starting a group to do it. I told them I'm going to check the laws.
I'm about to be laid off from my job. You're darned right I'm checking out all my options!
~J-Mo
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Time to march on Washington and CHANGE things, instead of accepting this low life solution!
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Time to march on Washington and CHANGE things, instead of accepting this low life solution!
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Shoot Bush on May 1st
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Spirit Of The West - Loaded Minds
young boy is killed by a gun-toting driver
he caught him cuase the kid went too far
when the mad was asked why
he replied with conviction
"i caught the young punk throwing stones at my car"
...stones at my car...
Uncle Sam's on the billboard
Stars n Stripes shining
as I drive by he's a message for me
the sign reads The Constant Preparation for War
this is the preservation of Peace
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's Life for
crossing over our Fence
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's Life for crossing over our fence
that's the Freedom
tricks on his door sent an old man's heart racing
tricks on his mind broke his patience in two
he answers the door
... ! with the crack of a rifle !
paper boy dies delivering the News
...he becomes the News...
fold heroes and murders
they're condoned and condemned
they're crucified and idolized
for taking their stand
is this how we live?
all good people on guard
defending our Rights
in the home and native land
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's Life
for crossing over our Fence
there's a war in our streets
there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's life for crossing over your fence
that's the Freedom!
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Posted by: VickyinSD on Apr 2, 2008 9:41 AM
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Every Thursday at 9 p.m. we go to the bread store and haul away their "day old" bread... bread that they normally toss at the end of the day.
We get huge garbage bags full of bagels, muffins, cakes, breakfast pastries, sliced loaves normally used for sandwiches, un-sliced loaves of the same breads, sourdough rounds that can be filled with soups... you name it, whatever they have left over! This haul is usually a couple hundred pounds of bread products, and is way too much for either of us!
So we go through it, pick what we want for ourselves, then on Friday we deliver the rest to a local charity that helps feed the homeless and needy in the area. It's a win-win for everybody!
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Here is a photo I took a couple years ago, while initiating two into the Holy Rites, for the countlessth. Notice the ease-of-pickings from this open-top Dumpster. Anyone can pull the lid up and snatch out whatever elicits drool, without sloshing around in unknown muck.
The author's account is entertaining, but her diligence, while appropriate for the story, isn't often necessary for shopping's sake. One can usually lean over into the kind of Dumpster she describes and pull close for inspection any promising bags within reach. Some stores throw out plenty every day, throughout the day; others more intermittently, on some kind of schedule. It's good to learn schedules for your regular stores, so far as they exist.
SANITATION seems to be a big concern for many, understandably. Obviously, one must take precautions, but 94.2% of that is common sense. I have never gotten ill from Dumpster Dining (nor, as far as I know, has anyone who has received groceries from me). Dumpsters often open up to the mephitic bacterial stink of endless cycles of decomposition, so I will sometimes spray a bleach solution around the inside of one if I happen to find it empty (or nearly so), if I happen to have some handy. This is nice. NOT nice is when employees bleach the food to render it inesculent (it's true, some do).
Perhaps sometime I should write a more detailed how-to? Considering how inordinately, obscenely wasteful modern civilization is, it's not just practical: we may think of it as doing our part to reduce our collective "footprint" on the Planet, to re-balance, however slightly (or even symbolically), one of the gross imbalances of our Earthly lifestyle.
Finding unexpected delights never stops being cool, either (right now: chocolate-dipped apricots and figs).
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Posted by: Malcolm Calder on Apr 2, 2008 1:17 PM
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Here is a photo I took a couple years ago, while initiating two into the Holy Rites, for the countlessth. Notice the ease-of-pickings from this open-top Dumpster. Anyone can pull the lid up and snatch out whatever elicits drool, without sloshing around in unknown muck.
The author's account is entertaining, but her diligence, while appropriate for the story, isn't often necessary for shopping's sake. One can usually lean over into the kind of Dumpster she describes and pull close for inspection any promising bags within reach. Some stores throw out plenty every day, throughout the day; others more intermittently, on some kind of schedule. It's good to learn schedules for your regular stores, so far as they exist.
SANITATION seems to be a big concern for many, understandably. Obviously, one must take precautions, but 94.2% of that is common sense. I have never gotten ill from Dumpster Dining (nor, as far as I know, has anyone who has received groceries from me). Dumpsters often open up to the mephitic bacterial stink of endless cycles of decomposition, so I will sometimes spray a bleach solution around the inside of one if I happen to find it empty (or nearly so), if I happen to have some handy. This is nice. NOT nice is when employees bleach the food to render it inesculent (it's true, some do).
Perhaps sometime I should write a more detailed how-to? Considering how inordinately, obscenely wasteful modern civilization is, it's not just practical: we may think of it as doing our part to reduce our collective "footprint" on the Planet, to re-balance, however slightly (or even symbolically), one of the gross imbalances of our Earthly lifestyle.
Finding unexpected delights never stops being cool, either (right now: chocolate-dipped apricots and figs).
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Meet the private security firm that spied on Greenpeace and other environmental outfits for its corporate clients. A tale of intrigue, infiltration, & dumpster-diving.
Mother Jones has exposed that a security firm run by ex Secret Service agents spied on Greenpeace, Fenton Communications, the Center for Food Safety, & others...
The smoking gun documents show that Beckett Brown International (BBI), collected confidential records—donor lists, detailed financial statements, the Social Security numbers of staff members, strategy memos—from these groups & produced intelligence reports for public relations firms & major corporations involved in environmental controversies.
BBI also conducted background checks for the Carlyle Group, the Washington-based investment firm; provided "protective services" for the NRA; handled "crisis management" for the Gallo wine company; engaged in "information collection" for Wal-Mart.
... Also listed as clients in BBI records: Halliburton & Blackwater.
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The Thieves of Virtue: without the PUBLIC WILL for PRIVACY, criminalizing vice functionally aborts representative government.
"FBI Deputizes Private Contractors With Extraordinary Powers, Including 'Shoot to Kill'"
Naked Truth: Civil Rights & CNN coverage of "F.B.I. biometric database - 'Server in the Sky'"
thoughts on 'The Fear Factory'
"corruption is why we win":
"Yell Fire!": Bush to freeze peace activist assets? - Executive Order to "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
NSA's Domestic Spying Grows As Agency Sweeps Up Data
thoughts on the new US Project Hostile Intent (PHI)
Watching the "Ownership Society": follow-ups on Shareholder Surveillance
InfraGard & O'Reilly? Olbermann interviewed O'Reilly caller who was contacted by "Fox News security": did O'Reilly mean INFRAGARD representatives?
"FBI Deputizes Private Contractors With Extraordinary Powers, Including 'Shoot to Kill'"
without the WILL for PRIVACY... there IS NO DEMOCRACY...
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"do no harm"
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