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Immigrant Children Get Screwed When It Is Time to Go to College

By Leighton Woodhouse, Brave New Foundation. Posted March 29, 2008.


Children, brought into this country when they were young, should not be deprived of college because of their parents immigration status.

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The video to the right is a special Brave New Foundation video that makes the case for the DREAM Act, which would enable states to grant in-state tuition to hardworking immigrant students, making higher education (and eventually citizenship) a real possibility.

This year, the presidential election will not hinge on the emotionally divisive issue of immigration.

That's good news for foreign-born residents of the United States. It's good news for everyone who believes that a moral society takes care of its most vulnerable members, forcing no one into the shadows. If the nativist wing of the Republican Party had seen its electoral goals realized, we would have witnessed a Republican primary dominated by a tragic debate about how best to expel the 12 million undocumented immigrants living in America, whether by deporting as many as possible, or by making legal conditions so inhospitable that they leave of their own volition. That debate would have trickled out into the general election, with Republican strategists trying to 'wedge' independent and Democratic-leaning voters with toxic appeals to national chauvinism and racial prejudice masquerading as distinctions of legitimate policy differences. Like the debate over what kinds of prisoner interrogation techniques legally constitute torture, these are the kinds of public discussions we engage in at the cost of our collective soul.

Thankfully, Tom Tancredo never managed to get his first foot off the ground, Giuliani led in early national polls in spite of his well-known history of supporting immigrant rights, and a border state Senator who is famously moderate on the issue (however much he tries to run away from that reputation) will be his party's nominee. The news is not entirely sanguine, however. The momentary absence of anti-immigrant invective in the mainstream does not mean that bigotry does not persist at the margins, leaning ever inward. And taking the spotlight off of immigrants, while affording them some room to breathe, further delays the political moment for meaningful immigration reform.

With groups like FAIR and the Minutemen consigned, for now, back to the political fringe where they belong, and with Latino voters set to play a pivotal role in the fates of the presidential nominees of both parties come November, now is the opportune time to put immigration back into the public debate -- on pro-immigrant terms.

Pending and not-yet-pending legislation affords opportunities to achieve material victories for immigrant families, as well as to reclaim the lost sense of the cultural and economic importance of immigrants in America. In New Jersey, passage of the In-State Tuition Bill would expand education access for foreign-born children, giving immigrant kids a real chance at life, while also fostering a more educated workforce for the state's economy. A similar bill may reach the state legislature in California as well this year. And with a Democrat in the White House and a Democratic majority in Congress, immigrant families could make their greatest gain through a reintroduction of the federal DREAM Act in 2009.

By fixing public attention on the daily struggles of families to improve their futures by securing a quality education for their children -- as familiar an experience to the native-born as to the foreign-born -- advocating for these critically important bills will help put the national debate on immigration back into its proper form: as a discussion about working families. Not criminals, not deviants, not foreign nationalists -- simply families struggling to achieve a common American Dream.

Brave New Foundation hopes to help provoke that discussion by launching a major campaign on the struggles and aspirations of immigrant families in America, beginning with this video. We will continue that discussion on these pages, with future videos throughout the year. Read more at A Dream Deferred.

Brave New Foundation founder Robert Greenwald is a board member of AlterNet's parent organization, the Independent Media Institute.

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Let's not put the cart before the horse...
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Mar 29, 2008 3:09 AM   
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What about the American Middle Class Families who's children would like the luxury of a higher education, or even Lower Income American Families for that matter?

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» Absolutely Posted by: Anon12
» Spamming the board Posted by: MobileSucks
Get your list ready!
Posted by: carbon-based on Mar 29, 2008 3:49 AM   
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College for immigrants? I think Americans come first, immigrants come last, if at all, as they are not even citizens.

This is a perfect example of liberals ignoring Americans, proposing policies out of touch with America for lord know what else.

I suspect the far left nuts will be lining up in front of the whitehouse when Obama gets elected with a crazy idea list..only to be disappointed when common sense prevails.

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» Get a clue, or a conscience Posted by: jenmadison
» RE: Get a clue, or a conscience Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Get a clue, or a conscience Posted by: paintchips
» RE: Get a clue, or a conscience Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Get a clue, or a conscience Posted by: madmax427
» RE: Get your list ready! Posted by: Turiye
» RE: Get your list ready! Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Get your list ready! Posted by: Intellect
You are wrong, Carbon-based.
Posted by: Ellie1 on Mar 29, 2008 5:22 AM   
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I am as progressive as they come, and I think this is a terrible idea. Citizens should come first. Don't paint everyone with your Bush Brush. Now shall we discuss the WAR, the national debt, our standing in the world, and hundreds of other Bushit ideas that you seem to blame on "liberals"?

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» RE: You are wrong, Carbon-based. Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: You are wrong, Carbon-based. Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: You are wrong, Carbon-based. Posted by: carbon-based
» You are ignorant and way off base Posted by: jenmadison
» RE: You are wrong, Carbon-based. Posted by: El Hombre Malo
wow
Posted by: Dboy on Mar 29, 2008 6:18 AM   
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College for illegal aliens...what a great idea! Or maybe, just maybe we could spend that money on people who are actually Americans?!?! There are schools in Mexico. Mexicans need to stay home and educate themselves and fix their own country rather than milking ours.

dboy

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» Only 56% Posted by: redceres
» RE: opposite direction Posted by: Dboy
More Over-Idealism
Posted by: DreamFast on Mar 29, 2008 6:20 AM   
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This article is scant on details.

Is the Dream Act advocating for allowing illegal immigrants to apply for grants and student loans for higher education? If so, I say absolutely not.

If it advocates allowing illegal immigrants to attend college on their own or their parent's dime, certainly they should be allowed to attain higher education.

It is said that this is a moral issue, and it is, for what could be more immoral than putting illegal immigrants before American citizens?!

Why do we have an immigration problem in the first place?

Because of policies like the Dream Act.
By fullfilling their "dreams", we suffer nightmares.

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» RE: More Over-Idealism Posted by: jegnj
» RE: More Over-Idealism Posted by: Swim
» Your approach is medeival Posted by: jenmadison
» RE: More Over-Idealism Posted by: El Hombre Malo
» RE: More Over-Idealism Posted by: Stlmgnolia
You've got to be kidding
Posted by: curtrock on Mar 29, 2008 7:00 AM   
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I am a 'liberal' thinker and have been all my life, much to the chagrin of my very 'conservative' family...I believe in equality and justice but the view being presented here cannot be endorsed. It seems the wave of 'political correctness' has flooded the minds of the well intentioned. I believe everyone who wrote in dissent to this article is as much a progressive thinker as I...but, we recognize that this kind of embrace does not promote equality...instead it singles out immigrants (foreigners) to receive government assistance for higher education. This country is crumbling at our feet, I can barely make ends meet, I have no decent health insurance, no savings and was unable to afford to send my two children to college...the public schools they attended were inadequate and they along with the majority of their peers don't seem to know much about anything...they're not interested plus they all have a sense of entitlement...What have we done? And now the bright idea is to educate illegal immigrants?! ...no doubt on our dime?! This is going too far!

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» RE: You've got to be kidding Posted by: eayancy
» RE: You've got to be kidding Posted by: Intellect
» RE: You've got to be kidding Posted by: curtrock
the white suburban mentality at work
Posted by: e rice on Mar 29, 2008 7:08 AM   
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don't blame liberals for this stupidity.

blame the people i call pseudo-liberals--the ignorant in their overpriced suburban ghettos who think all other americans have the same opportunities they had. who are oblivious to the working poor. who think racial discrimination no longer exists.

however, if illegal aliens' college tuition would be paid by the wealthy parents whose children are given legacy positions in the ivy league colleges and tuition scholarships, i might actually favor this idea. that plan would leave government scholarship money available to the hard-working citizens of this country.

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What is the basis for this ?
Posted by: Doubtom on Mar 29, 2008 7:47 AM   
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Why is there such a push to accommodate the children of illegal immigrants? Is this suppose to grant us super liberal status or what? There is no reason why we should even be talking about these children or the children of any other country as long as we have struggling children of our own. Since when have we become the cure for all of the world's problems? We've got an ungodly amount of our tax money going out each and every year to a multitude of countries who aren't even trying to better their citizens' condition. Now were expected to bring them here to assist them at the expense of our own? Whose crazy idea is this anyway? Is there a name we can attach to this insanity so we can at least get him or her out of office NOW?

All were doing by accepting these children into our school system is accommodating the rich elite of Mexico who will continue to exploit their own citizens and "outsource" their problems. This is so ridiculous that we have had two successive Mexican presidents coming here to "insure" that their citizens are treated properly, both legal and illegal, while they themselves escape criticism entirely for their part in creating this crisis. In what other country of the world is this happening?
If the churches are so keen on doing this they can also foot the bill, but even then, we'd still have the problem of the illegal status and that's real not imagined!
The argument that some of these illegal people pay taxes is no argument at all. They shouldn't pay taxes as they shouldn't be here in the first place. There's a principle in law that holds that anything following an illegal act must itself be illegal, i.e., if one is here illegally, then driving in this country is also illegal, so is working, applying for schools, applying for assistance for housing or food etc..
There's a well established immigration program and it accommodates more of the world's people than any other country; there's no reason why American citizens should have to tolerate this illegal intrusion of immigrants, primarily from Mexico. And all the while the Mexican elite is laughing all the way to the bank and let's not kid ourselves, Mexico is a very rich country with a very well heeled elite class.
Whatever problems are caused by American corporations on the working class of Mexico and there are some, they're being allowed and encouraged by Mexico's elite class, just as the elite class dominates in our own country. Mexico must rid itself of this elite class just as we must. No nation's problems have ever been solved by its citizens running away to another country, either legally or illegally.

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» Excuse the long rant but-- Posted by: Doubtom
» No, it's appreciated-- Posted by: MobileSucks
» This post looks familiar Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: What is the basis for this ? Posted by: El Hombre Malo
» RE: What is the basis for this ? Posted by: Stlmgnolia
Undocumented Kids Need a Chance
Posted by: maggiem on Mar 29, 2008 7:47 AM   
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The point is that undocumented kids cannot apply for scholarships, grants or loans--no matter how hard they work.

I know a woman who teaches high school in Central L.A. It breaks her heart to see very bright, very hard-workign kids realize, by junior year, that they're on a dead-end road. They can get all A's, but they're not going anywhere.

In most cases these kids did not choose to come to this country illegally. Their parents made that choice. Now that they are here, we should give them the same opportunities that everyone else has--to work hard, and to compete for the scholarships and loans that would let them go to college.

Does this mean that for every undocoumented student who gets into college, one native-born working-class American will be denied his chance? Not necessarily. There is no reason that we cannot add to the funds available for scholarships for working class and lower-middle class kids.

That is what we should be doing anyway. Ever since 1980 (the Reagan administration) money has been shiphoned out of scholarship programs for the neediest kids and put into into low-interest loan programs for the affluent parents of upper-middle-class and upper-class kids.

We need more scholarships based on need and merit.

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postlwkr
Posted by: postlwkr on Mar 29, 2008 8:20 AM   
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What about the VETS,who lose thier college moneis because they are injuried in "the war" and there for can not finish thier contract?

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» RE: postlwkr Posted by: Turiye
Free America!
Posted by: LANCE on Mar 29, 2008 8:24 AM   
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Death to Fascists

Join the International Socialist Revolution

FREE AMERICA

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Gut the War/Military Budgets: Fund Education for All
Posted by: sofla100 on Mar 29, 2008 8:42 AM   
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These children, along with the children of native born Americans, are left begging for scraps. At least 1/2 of the federal USA budget now goes for wars and the national security state. Iraq alone is estimated to ultimately cost America into the trillions of dollars. We need to bring our soldiers home and close the bases, and take care of our own. Then, we would have plenty of money. Otherwise, we are just fighting over scraps.

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College is a waste of money for most anyway
Posted by: auntiegrav on Mar 29, 2008 8:44 AM   
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We need to REDUCE the number of people going to college. Most are wasting money and time studying things they can just as well read about in a library. College should be determined on one thing only: meritorious scholarship ability. Not sports advertising money; not rich parents; not race. Base the criteria simply on someone's ability to excel scholastically. If immigrants are smarter than domestics, let them take the place of Buffy or Biff. Smart people in college benefit the country and world. Stupid/drunk/rich people in college are a burden, as are the stadiums, the traffic, the crimes, and the resulting increase in 'advertising executives'.

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A Very Hard Sell
Posted by: Gravitas on Mar 29, 2008 8:45 AM   
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I have had this discussion in my classroom. Even my most progressive students rile at the thought. I don't judge them, they are facing huge student loans. It is hard to feel compassion when one is going to be buried so deeply in dept.

I think it all comes down to redistributing wealth. There is way too much concentration at the top. If it was redistributed in a just way, there would be plenty of money for education and health care. It is time for the people to take back their power. People should take that same rage they are directing at the undocumented and aim it exactly where it belongs - the power-elite at the top who milk the system for their benefit at the expense of the rest. We can only have a fair world when they go! They have lied, cheated, manipulated through the media, murdered and turned humanity against each other. THEY are the only ones really deserving of such scorn. And they have no moral right to keep the obscene amount of wealth under their control. It should be redistributed a bit for the benefit of all humanity.

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» RE: A Very Hard Sell Posted by: YogiBear
Yeah Yeah Sure Sure
Posted by: grn1 on Mar 29, 2008 8:45 AM   
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Here in California 4000 teachers have been laid off and schools are closing, then proposals to close 48 of California’s state parks and take lifeguards away from 16 state beaches is in the works. 14-16 billion dollars in debt. Medical facilities are faltering due to assistance to undocumented people. And GUESS WHAT I worked harder than any undocumented worker raising 3 kids and have yet to collect a fucking dime from any govt agency. This idea only panders to rich peoples slaves kids.

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American citizens first
Posted by: HughScott on Mar 29, 2008 9:09 AM   
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While I sympathize with the plight of Hispanic high schoolers whose parents are illegal aliens, there simply in't enough money to help American kids get through through college, much less undocumented students.

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» RE: American citizens first Posted by: eayancy
» Stats as requested Posted by: redceres
» RE: Stats as requested Posted by: desidid
You Know What?
Posted by: MobileSucks on Mar 29, 2008 9:26 AM   
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I wont go as far as to say something in opposition to this, but maybe focusing first on hard working Americans that can't afford college would be a good idea?

How about poor people that graduate from high school and can't read or do basic math?

Liberals can test people's patience, I will say that. It's funny how white Right-Wing people have this crazy idea that liberals don't care about them.

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» RE: You Know What? Posted by: Swim
Okay, wait a minute....
Posted by: Jas1317 on Mar 29, 2008 9:28 AM   
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Okay, it seems like everyone is kind of missing the point of the Dream Act. It's not to give illegal immigrant kids a FREE college education...it's just to allow them to use college education, which they would pay for themselves, as a path to citizenship. The law specifies that they would be charged in-state tuition to make it economically feasible - at most schools, out-of-state tuition is 3 times higher than in-state tuition. Anyway, the bill would not allow them to apply for grants, although they would be allowed to apply for student loans or work study aid. So they'd be putting themselves through school and would either have to pay tuition (up front or later through loans) or work for their tuition.

See here.

So...before we all freak out about how Americans can't afford college so how can we "give it" to illegals...think about it. This is simply allowing illegal children who do well in school to attend public colleges (a right they have in some states but not all), but it won't allow them to get Pell Grants or anything like that (so they won't be using public funds to pay for their education). They can then use this education to help them gain citizenship.

The reasoning behind the law is that there are kids who were brought here as young children by their parents and have lived here their entire lives. In many states those kids have no path to citizenship, which strikes some people as unfair since a 3-year-old can't exactly refuse to come over with his or her family, but if they grow up here and become "Americanized," they have no path to citizenship independent of their parents in most states.

What this law allows for is for people who were brought here as children to have a path to citizenship, which they don't currently have. They would have six years to get an associate's or bachelor's degree, and would need to have a clean criminal record and (I believe) a job, and then they could apply for citizenship.

Personally, I'm sympathetic to people who were brought here as young kids. It seems unfair to not allow them a path to citizenship when it wasn't their decision to come over in the first place but they've spent their entire lives here. But let's get a little perspective here - this law would not provide free education to illegals. They'd still have to scramble to find tuition money and everything, just like American kids...and would actually have fewer resources in terms of grants. But it would allow them a path out of the "no-man's" land they currently live in.

Again...it gives them the opportunity to get a college education. It does not give them a free or publicly-funded education.

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» RE: Okay, wait a minute.... Posted by: djnoll
» RE: Okay, wait a minute.... Posted by: Jas1317
» RE: Okay, wait a minute.... Posted by: Lady_L
Immigration ,schimigration
Posted by: willymack on Mar 29, 2008 9:46 AM   
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Immigration is a concept as obsolete as steam locomotives or telegraph wires. The original concept was driven by GREED, the prospect of easy money possible by the brutal expolitation of those from foreign lands. Their "rights" were the furthest thing on the minds of the robber barons, who regarded immigrants as little more than cattle. This mind set continues to this day, otherwise, illegal immigration wouldn't be nearly as big a problem as it is. That being said, my opinion on this matter is that we should immediately halt ALL immigration into our country for a set period at first, and extending that period as needed. A moratorium on immigration could be lifted at such a time as the needs of ALL our native-born citizens are met. That may be ten years from now, or, more likely, NEVER. It should be apparent to most of us by now that we ALREADY have far too many people here for our own good. What may not be so apparent is that population control here and worldwide is the ONLY way to head off a major disaster, or maybe even our own extinction.

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I'm leftist on most things...
Posted by: truthteller on Mar 29, 2008 10:05 AM   
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...But mass illegal, yes ILLEGAL immigration is a scam run on working class, native-born and legal immigrant Americans to drive down wages. Our problem is more illegal employer, but it's still a problem. I'm far from the only liberal/progressive who has big problems with the idea that by committing an illegal act and getting away with it long enough, it becomes ok and legal. I'm especially outraged by pregnant women from other countries who come here illegally to pop out an American citizen so they can stay and bring more of their family here. This is abuse of the spirit of the Constitution and should not be allowed. You should not be allowed to benefit from from an illegal act - namely getting to stay because you came here illegally to give birth, knowing that that child would be considered an American citizen. We need to close the "Anchor Baby" loophole, not give these spawns scholarships. We can't sustain the population we have, let alone all who come here by hook and crook.

People, you are being led down a path to environmental ruin and destruction by a combination of greedy corporations and well-meaning, but misguided liberals. This idea is an outrage I will not stand for, but probably cannot stop, due to the perceived growing influence of the Hispanic community in electoral politics (which in and of itself is a self-fulfilling feedback loop).

I agree with the others (surprisingly many here, you really hit a nerve) who say, take care of those born or legally here. And, oh by the way, SEND THE OTHERS BACK. I await your flaming and troll-rating.

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» crimes and misdemeanors Posted by: jenmadison
» RE: crimes and misdemeanors Posted by: desidid
» No, I'm no rightie Posted by: truthteller
SOrry, I'm gonna have to disagreee on this one.
Posted by: rickiey on Mar 29, 2008 10:25 AM   
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I'm especially concerned, because I'm a middle class sorta guy. Two kids, both smart, and my wife is a teacher, which should give you an idea of my income.

Quite frankly, I still haven't figured out where I'm going to get the rest of the money to pay for MY kid's college.

Once the problems of middle classers like myself, are solved, then yes, it will make sense to focus on immigrants. But not until then.

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More power to them.
Posted by: Ayla87 on Mar 29, 2008 11:22 AM   
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A college education doesn't give the student anything more than a slightly higher chance of making more money than a high school graduate. And it really is only slightly higher. I worked with a girl who had a bachelors degree in American Studies. We were both in a deli making less than $10/hour. She had to live with her parents just to pay off the interest on her student loans.

If illegal immigrants want to waste four years of thier lives sitting in a classroom and taking notes about a world they could be expeiriencing for themselves, I say go for it. In fact, one of them can have my seat. All college gives you in the end is an inflated sense of self, and a shit load of student loans to pay off. It certainly doesn't give one an education, thats for damn sure.

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» RE: More power to them. Posted by: MobileSucks
» College is a racket Posted by: defrag
Some misconceptions
Posted by: eayancy on Mar 29, 2008 12:30 PM   
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It seems like there are some misconceptions out there about the DREAM Act and what it is and is not intended to do. None of these students is asking for a free ride. They will have to pay to go to college just like any other American student will have to pay. The DREAM Act makes them eligible for federal loans. DREAMers will have to complete 2 years of higher education, 2 years of or military service before even being considered for any type of permanent status. These children aren't going anywhere. They aren't going to their "country of origin" they were brought here as children by their parents. They were brought up in US schools, in US neighborhoods and played with US citizens. The only thing that keeps them from being American is their birth certificate. We're talking about the future of America, an educated workforce made up of people all over the world. We should not punish children for the transgressions of their parents.

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» RE: Some misconceptions Posted by: Dboy
» RE: Some misconceptions Posted by: Lady_L
Wake Up Call to Progressives
Posted by: jenmadison on Mar 29, 2008 12:59 PM   
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I am disappointed to see so many otherwise intelligent and well-meaning people commenting out of ignorance and fear on this post. Education is not, and has never been, a zero-sum game.

There are a few points I would ask all of you to bear in mind before reacting viscerally on this issue.

1. The "crime" of crossing a border into the US without documentation is a misdemeanor. That crime ceases to