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Is a New, Dangerous Biohazard Site Coming to Your State Soon?

By Stan Cox, CounterPunch. Posted March 29, 2008.


Five states are locked in fierce competition over a proposed bioterror lab that will host the world's most feared human and animal pathogens.

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What would it take to convince you that your town should play host to the world's most feared human and animal pathogens? Believe it or not, five states are locked in fierce competition over a proposed bioterror lab that would have them doing just that.

In 2002, the newly created Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was given control of Plum Island Animal Disease Center in New York. Now DHS is seeking a home in the heartland for a National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF) that would take over Plum Island's work, along with its potent microbial cultures. The fact that many diseases are now known to jump between humans and animals, combined with this decade's terror-fixation, has led the federal government to convert the agricultural problem of sick livestock into the national-security problem of bioterrorism.

Do I hear a bid?

Lying off the east end of New York's Long Island, Plum Island (which was under the Department of Agriculture until 2002) is the only place in the nation where scientists have previously been allowed to handle the pathogens that cause foot-and-mouth disease, rinderpest, Rift Valley fever, African swine fever, and other horrific maladies that, if let loose on the mainland, could cause billions in agricultural losses and even threaten human populations.

NBAF will be a "biosafety level 4" (BL-4) facility, providing the highest degree of isolation for the world's most dangerous organisms (Plum Island was one notch down, at BL-3, because it was isolated by water). Locations being eyed as possible sites include the University of Georgia campus in Athens; the campus of Kansas State University in Manhattan; Flora, Mississippi, near the capital city of Jackson; a research farm 17 miles northeast of Duke University in North Carolina; and a former ranch near San Antonio, Texas.

There is cutthroat competition for the lab, with DHS being courted with the kinds of incentives that go to all big potential employers. The University of Georgia has offered 66 acres of prime real estate worth $15 million and $4.5 million in road and utility improvements. The Kansas Senate approved the issue of $164 million in bonds to pay for land, roads, and security for NBAF. Now, DHS is reportedly demanding that the lab, wherever it is sited, have its own energy source, a natural gas-fired power plant. Governor Kathleen Sebelius immediately agreed to throw that into the Kansas bid.

A big bio-gamble

Every potential location for the bioterror facility lies close to large human and animal populations. In Manhattan, Kansas, for example, the lab would be located not only in an agricultural region, and not only in the nation's second most tornado-prone state, but also within hailing distance of a senior-citizen home, a student housing area, an affordable-housing complex, a student recreation facility, a football stadium, and a basketball arena.

Kansas State University biology professor Walter Dodd will be have the new bioterror lab a mile north of his workplace if his state wins the sweepstakes. He says that in the struggle over the lab, it's impossible to compare risks. "There has been no formal risk assessment of the BSL-4 facility that is available to the public. Likewise, knowing the risk from terrorists introducing new pathogens is difficult." Although, he says, "We need to do this type of research because we must control diseases if possible," he worries about the proposed locations: "Putting the facility near a city or agricultural production strips one level of protection away." Dodd has recommended putting the lab in a desert or back on Plum Island.

Last year, DHS held a series of public meetings at the five candidate sites for the lab, soliciting comment on environmental, health, safety, and socioeconomic issues. The Department compiled almost 4000 such comments, the majority of them apparently negative. Residents raised a host of alarms about accidents, sabotage, natural disasters, ecosystem damage, water contamination, human or animal epidemics, use of the lab for secret, sinister research, and the general ineptitude of DHS. The Department is working on its responses.

When the bioterror lab is awarded to one of the five contenders this fall, residents of the "winning" location will be asked to accept such vaguely defined risks in good patriotic spirit, to protect the nation's cities, towns, pastures, and feedlots from a hypothetical terrorist attack. But the facility will be run by administrators drawn from the same pool as those who responded to the only actual bioterror attack in this country to date -- the anthrax mailings of October, 2001 -- and who have made virtually no progress in solving them.

Furthermore, as I argued on the CounterPunch site in 2004, any agroterrorists who might want to see their mission accomplished in rural America need only sit back and watch. Agrocapitalism is already doing their work for them: poisoning water supplies, releasing antibiotic-resistant, highly pathogenic bacteria into streams and dust clouds, and contaminating our food supply.


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Stan Cox is a plant breeder and writer in Salina, Kansas. His book, Sick Planet: Corporate Food and Medicine, was just published by Pluto Press.

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Economic Limbo (How Low Can You Go)
Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 29, 2008 1:17 AM   
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It shows just how far gone things really are when states and communities compete for new prisons and places to dispose of toxic or biohazard materials. It hasn't been that long ago when the same units of government would have been fighting to have it put somewhere else.

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They should be trying to keep it out!
Posted by: Cooltruth on Mar 29, 2008 3:58 AM   
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Just shows how badly the economy has 'gone to krapp' when states are competing for something they ought to be striving to keep OUT! Wasn't that many years ago there would be all kinds of outcry over the safety issues involved both to people & agriculture. Now it's all about how much they can get out of the government to locate this hazard in their state. Disgusting! Terrorists don't HAVE to attack us. Government has been taking up their slack for them!

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How odd that states would be fighting over research...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Mar 29, 2008 4:24 AM   
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...jobs, infrastructure, and the associated economic impact in their region, not to mention the potential contributions to human longevity and knowledge, especially among state governments in the deep South?

Don't they know that a superminority within the country expects them only to refine their oil chemicals, grow their cotton and rice, and keep the Mississippi within it it's bank like grand toilet, and behave humble before they're superiors?

I mean, why are we even discussing scientific research here? Do the hicks even need to read to serve their thusly--their religiously some would call it--anointed purpose?

/sarcasm

How far from "the ostrich agenda" presented above is creationism, out of curiosity? Different motives, like sums? Or simply altered tones of self-righteousness mingled with steadfast advocacy for the expansion of human ignorance?

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 29, 2008 6:05 AM   
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Death to Fascists

Join the International Socialist Revolution

FREE AMERICA

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» RE: Terrorist Posted by: donl51
Can't outsource THAT, I suppose!?
Posted by: GrannyBgood on Mar 29, 2008 6:43 AM   
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Good grief!
Are we THAT desperate for new "Industry"?

Give it to Texass! They deserve it for giving us George W Bush!

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BUSH, USA great pRESIDENT
Posted by: richholland on Mar 29, 2008 6:47 AM   
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SOON THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF OIL AND WATER BUT THE usa ARE ABLE TO COLONISE the whole world.

Everybody who is a danger for the PROFIT is a terrorist.

The world is lost.

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High-Containment Labs Already Exist in Many Cities
Posted by: MikeMc on Mar 29, 2008 7:07 AM   
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Readers need to investigate what is happening at the BSL-3 high-containment biolabs in their communities. Recent GAO reports at least 300 of them located across the U.S. and they are unregulated.

At one BSL-3 in downtown Seattle, the University of Washington is planning on working on the recreated 1918 influenza virus, avian influenza, SARS and some specific strains of ebola. Citizens need to wake up to what is taking place in their neighborhood.

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Why no mention of the private contractors?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 29, 2008 7:57 AM   
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A more comprehensive article on the rise of the U.S. biowarfare establishment is here:

America the Beautiful's Germ Warfare Rash, by Sherwood Ross, 2007

This is hardly the first huge new biowarfare complex constructed by the Bush Administration:

Since the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush administration has spent at least $44 billion on biological "defense" without ever making made a true needs assessment. . .

As part of its buildup, in January 2005 the Army authorized construction of a new facility at the already sprawling U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland. According to a July 31, 2006, report in London's Guardian, Fort Detrick's National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center (NBACC), due to be completed in 2008, "will house heavily guarded and hermetically sealed chambers in which scientists simulate potential terrorist attacks." The scientists will dress in full-body spacesuits and use aerosol-test chambers to expose animals to deadly pathogens. To do so, the Guardian reported, the world's most lethal bacteria and viruses would have to be produced and stockpiled. Questions of international law violations and the hastening of a biological arms race persist.

In December 2006 Battelle National Biodefense Institute hooked the $250-million, five-year DHS contract to run the NBACC. According to the Washington Post, much of what transpires at that center may never be known as the government intends to operate the facility largely in secret. In its July 30, 2006, article, the Post reported:

The heart of the lab is a cluster of sealed chambers built to contain the world's deadliest bacteria and viruses. There, scientists will spend their days simulating the unthinkable: bioterrorism attacks in the form of lethal anthrax spores rendered as wispy powders that can drift for miles on a summer breeze, or common viruses turned into deadly superbugs that ordinary drugs and vaccines cannot stop.

University of Illinois law professor Francis Boyle charges that the Bush administration is spending more money in inflation-adjusted dollars to develop illegal, offensive germ warfare than the $2 billion the United States spent on the Manhattan Project to make the atomic bomb. That weapon's development was, at least, driven by the realistic fears that Nazi Germany might develop it first. Today, no comparable enemy exists."


This new biowarfare emphasis means billions in contracts for private contractors who do work for the CIA and the DIA - and the most notable one, by far, is Battelle Memorial Institute, who is involved in the Mississippi bid for the project. From the Sunshine Project:

"Battelle, based in Ohio, conducts classified research at its West Jefferson (OH) lab. Battelle also operates national labs, including Oak Ridge (TN), and Pacific Northwest (WA). Mississippi has little to offer in the way of expertise. Battelle has an insatiable appetite for federal dollars and may appreciate weak partners in Mississippi’s educational institutions. This proposal features the crack political team of Gov. Haley Barbour (Chair of George Bush’s 2000 Presidential Campaign Advisory Committee) and Penrose "Parney" Albright, until recently a top DHS official. Between them, just about any relevant ear can be bent.

This is all about using the anthrax attacks of 9.18 and 10.9, 2001, to justify bloated multibillion dollar contracts to the very company that is the number one suspect in those mailings - the only company that had access to the strain as well as to the spore preparation technology, namely Battelle Memorial Institute.

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Why no mention of the private contractors? (cont)
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 29, 2008 8:10 AM   
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That was actually the leading theory in Dec 2001: FBI Investigates Possible Financial Motive in Anthrax Attacks, Washington Post, December 21, 2001; Page A21

Battelle, a private contractor that has worked with the Pentagon in developing defenses against biological attacks, is one of several labs visited by FBI agents investigating the anthrax attacks. Katy Delaney, a Battelle spokeswoman, said the company has cooperated fully with the government's investigation. . . Battelle is a contractor at Dugway, which last week acknowledged making a powdered form of anthrax to use in testing sensors and other equipment used to defend against biological attacks."

Then, the FBI team was replaced with a compliant corporate team that dropped that theory like a hot potato and instead focused on a "lone wolf terrorist theory", involving the bogus prosecution of an innocent individual, Steven Hatfilll. That's where we are now - the FBI buried the case. They had more people snooping around Elliot Spitzer than they have on the anthrax case today.

The best technical review of the anthrax attacks is Anthrax Powder: State of the Art? Gary Matsumoto, Science, Nov 2003

Battelle has a long record of doing unethical biowarfare work for the U.S. government, some of it in direct defiance of international treaties signed by the U.S. government. Some examples include Project Jefferson (named after Battelle's West Jefferson, OH classified biowarfare research facility), as described by the Arms Control Association:

"In August 2001, the administration of President George W. Bush rejected a draft multilateral protocol that had been under negotiation for six years to strengthen the BWC with a system of mandatory declarations and inspections. One reason for this decision was the administration’s concern that intrusive on site visits to U.S. biodefense facilities might compromise classified threat-assessment research. On September 4, 2001, exactly one week before the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, a front-page story in The New York Times revealed the existence of three secret threat-assessment projects being conducted by the U.S. intelligence community and the Department of Defense:

1) Project Jefferson, a plan by the Defense Intelligence Agency to reproduce a genetically modified strain of the anthrax bacterium developed by Russian scientists in the early 1990s, in order to determine whether or not the agent was resistant to the licensed U.S. anthrax vaccine.
*This work was contracted to Battelle.

2) Project Clear Vision, a project by Battelle Memorial Institute, under contract to the CIA, to reconstruct and test a Soviet-designed biological bomblet so as to assess its dissemination
characteristics.

3) Project Bacchus, an effort by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, a unit of the Defense Department, to construct a mock biowarfare production facility to assess the feasibility of mass-producing anthrax bacterial stimulant with off-the-shelf equipment.

The Bush administration claimed that all three studies were consistent with the BWC because the underlying intent was defensive, but a number of international legal scholars disagreed. They argued that the recreation of the Soviet bomblet under Project Clear Vision violated the Article I prohibition on the development, production, stockpiling, acquisition, or retention of “weapons, equipment or means of delivery designed to use [biological] agents or toxins for hostile purposes or in armed conflict.”


More news the corporate press won't cover...

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» A jaw-dropping amount of solid information... Posted by: trappedintwilightzone
The perfect place would be -----
Posted by: symcokid on Mar 29, 2008 8:16 AM   
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the Yucca Mountains in Nevada, hell it's already a Nuclear Waste repository, that way all types of hazardous waste can blow up enmasse. I wonder how much the government can charge per ton to store it, then we could apply the revenues toward our national debt and help finance a few more wars!

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We Are All Doomed
Posted by: Southern Gal on Mar 29, 2008 8:16 AM   
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I'm curious if other countries are engaged in this research to the degree that this country is. We seem to have a mission to be the first and most powerful in every type of mass killing tool. If we engage in a war with a country that can defend itself and be agressive against us, there is no telling what will be unleashed on the populations of this planet.

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» RE: We Are All Doomed Posted by: benzene
How many more
Posted by: willymack on Mar 29, 2008 9:23 AM   
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Crimes do these evil bastards have to commit before we cuff 'em and stuff 'em? It wouldn't be so bad if the "research" was billed as a way to eradicate various pathogens, and the project weren't cloaked in secrecy. Why the paranoic need for secrecy, anyway? The question that naturally comes to mind is: "What are they covering up this time?" I recall a potential disaster some forty or fifty years ago at the Army research lab in Dugway, Utah when a particularly nasty strain of anthrax escaped and killed a lot of cattle, sheep, and wildlife. It was contained ONLY because of the remote location of the facility in the desert. So, why does our "leadership" want to build a facility on or near valuable agricultural land adjacent to a population center? This is hardly designed to win friends, now, is it? Then, there are those (far too many of us) who equate science with evil. Never mind our health, wealth, and prospects for a better future would perish without science. How will this go over with them? Some of the most virulent pathogens occasionally cause mini epidemics in the third world. Lassa fever and Ebola are examples of this. For some unknown reason, these outbreaks seem to fizzle out of their own accord. Just imagine a greatly enhanced Ebola virus that is AIRBORNE (it isn't, now) getting loose in a populated area. One of the Tom Clancy novels dealt with this very subject. Is this what the proposed "research" is about? Can we put ANY evil past the gang of criminals in Washington? Wouldn't it be better to nip this in the bud while we still can?

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» RE: How many more Posted by: donl51
The best place for NBAF: Crawford, TX
Posted by: HughScott on Mar 29, 2008 9:29 AM   
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Enough said.

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Poorly Researched Article
Posted by: benzene on Mar 29, 2008 1:55 PM   
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One of the main tenets of the article was that it was unwise to build level 4 labs near population centers. If the desire to put these labs near large population centers was anything new, then why do we already have 8 in operation in the U.S. alone, including laboratories in Boston, Atlanta, and Bethesda?

I do, however, have to admit that the point about how familiarity breeds comfort to be true. I work in a BSL-2+ laboratory with enterohemorrhagic E. coli with anthrax in the lab upstairs and cholera in the lab downstairs. I do admit that we get lazy sometimes about eating in the lab, although we NEVER do so in the hot room.

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» RE: Poorly Researched Article Posted by: Inlander
USA Acquisition/Stockpiling/Development of Biological WMD's for War Use Against Civilian Populations
Posted by: sofla100 on Mar 29, 2008 3:25 PM   
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We need to look at the extent to which the USA is now stockpiling biotoxins. Although, such stockpiling is prohibited by treaties (except for small quantities for"defensive research"), the USA has already shown it does not have to follow even ratified treaties. The Geneva conventions are cases in point (with regards to the treatment of prisoners and Guantanamo). It takes little stretch then to see that the USA will not be bound by international law and treaties, and it's a good probability the USA will simply continue and increase research on biotoxins for offensive and military reasons. The uses of such weapons could be in future wars, such as in Iraq, to destroy civilian populations that are combative or form insurgencies. Another possible target could be Iran. By decimating the civilian population, the government and country could quickly become dysfunctional, while innoculated US troops move in. The bottom line, if this were only defensive research, at most, a few labs would be operating. But, this is much more. The development, acquisition and potential deployment of bio-weapons is likely a key part of secret USA strategy for future war. Treaties or no treaties.

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» Perhaps not such a secret... Posted by: Anthroposophe
Skull Valley redux
Posted by: trappedintwilightzone on Mar 29, 2008 7:19 PM   
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Wish I could disagree with sofla100, but it seems pretty obvious that's what this is all about. The government's goal of developing biowarfare agents to render populations (civilian and/or military) too sick to function is wonderfully documented in THE EXTREMELY UNFORTUNATE SKULL VALLEY INCIDENT, by Donald W. Scott and William L. C. Scott (1996, The Chelmsford Publishers, Sudbury).

Following precisely the template used for Iraq, and with no more resistance from Congress or the military than they encountered then, Bush and Cheney are pressing doggedly forward to Iran. The more weapons we have to unleash on another nation's helpless people, the better. And if we can accomplish our goals "invisibly" by wafting bioagents on natural breezes or via their food/water supplies, rather than bombing them and having the bloody carnage spread out for all the world to see...well, now, that's the best of all possible worlds, isn't it?

And the icing on this cake of death? They're all becoming mega-rich on the profits.

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What kind of people want to make these things?
Posted by: GPFrank on Mar 29, 2008 8:30 PM   
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Don't know about the kind of scientists working on this or what kind of person would want to work on this unless they have been unable to compete in
regular academia. There must be an enhanced screw-up potential acerbated by the intense compe-
tition and the temptation to fudge results. I intend to call my senator the first work day about this.

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» Wish it was that simple Posted by: benzene
» RE: Wish it was that simple Posted by: Inlander
Unfortunately there is big money in germ warfare
Posted by: macdon1 on Mar 29, 2008 11:20 PM   
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and has been for a long time, so plenty of very intelligent people are willing to go along with the program. They don't call it germ warfare anymore, of course. Now it is anti-terror research. This government is so morally bankrupt that they can doom us all without a second thought. Between the deadly biological threat and the screwed up food supply it is only a matter of time before all hell breaks loose.

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Excess and Waste to the Public Domain
Posted by: talkville on Mar 30, 2008 2:39 AM   
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They call it 'externalizing costs', these fascist institutions of ours.

But I'm beginning to fret: what about those other bio-hazardous sites already established and developing in every one of our states? I mean: Police Stations and Shopping Malls and Corporate Headquarters and such. It's all ecologic and metabolic and fundamentally inimical to any '-logy' of Bios or Physis. It's beginning to seem like Fictional Individuals (e.g. Lies) and Universals are now determining Values; real individuals and particulars are determining Dis-values.

From microscopic pathogens to structural behemoths like Dow and Monsanto and the Corporate-State we've endowed "Life" with Value and at the same time are endowing Living with worthlessness. Makes one so angry one wants to Flip it All!!

First comes the actual human, then come his (or her) ideas. Whence this URGE to assert the reverse, funded, maintained and established always in the public domain, leaving gains, profits and 'growth' in the private?

In the name of fighting "bio-terror" it seems our political economy is perpetrating it. Can citizens even counter this "Rule of Laws"? There's fewer and fewer places those with the means can run and escape to; those without are forced to accept and resign themselves.

At least the Constitution guarantees each State a Republican Form (and this entails democratic action!). Each State best get going on giving this guarantee some Substance while we're still breathing. Res Publica, NOT Res Privata.

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Does this author work for Fox news?
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Mar 30, 2008 8:40 AM   
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I read this fear mongering article and thought what ignorance wrote this garbage.
If they were going to build a BSL-3 facility and perform BSL-4 research. I would be pissed, but this is a good thing. A secure facility to perform secure work. This is important work!

Why would one not want a National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility? I would imagine a facility such as this would spend most of its time trying to solve tough problems caused by the movement of pathogens across boarders by foot or on the winds. I also would rather have this type of research carried out in a well built facility rather than trying to run experiments in a lower safety facility spread all across the country. By the way that increases the potential for harm to come from a hazard. A good collaborative effort is worth it. I can also understand why Kansas would want it. After the whole evolution debacle they need to up their science clout.
How can one imagine that a state would not want a large source of federal funded research dollars, and the IP generated there. Imagine how much money a good treatment, diagnostic, or resistant variety is worth. The prestige that comes with its creation. Thats good for campus and state morale boosting.

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Armageddon outta here
Posted by: audiodef on Mar 30, 2008 10:50 AM   
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"When the bioterror lab is awarded to one of the five contenders this fall, residents of the "winning" location will be asked to accept such vaguely defined risks in good patriotic spirit..."

Fuck you, Uncle Sam. You've done nothing but shit on our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

"Furthermore, as I argued on the CounterPunch site in 2004, any agroterrorists who might want to see their mission accomplished in rural America need only sit back and watch. Agrocapitalism is already doing their work for them: poisoning water supplies, releasing antibiotic-resistant, highly pathogenic bacteria into streams and dust clouds, and contaminating our food supply...

And now the federal government plans to take a laboratory that harbors some of the planet's most menacing animal and human germs and place it closer than ever to the cattle feedlots and slaughterhouses of Kansas or Texas, the hog-confinement facilities of North Carolina, or the vast poultry operations of the Deep South."

Right. The US Federal Government is itself a terrorist organization, only instead of wanting to claim responsibility for death and destruction, they want to cause it while appearing to have their hands clean. They are beyond the abilities of professional mental health, and should be taken out back and shot.

"The desires of economic growth have overridden all aspects of science and common sense. "

Yup. That's why things are such a fucking mess today. Armageddon outta here as soon as I'm able to. Middle of nowhere, here I come!

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Oversimplification of the issues
Posted by: slong45 on Mar 30, 2008 11:01 AM   
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This article is an oversimplification of the issues. Building a secure lab to perform important research about dangerous pathogens that can potentially be weaponized by terrorists does NOT mean that the government is going to inevitably weaponize them or automatically mean that the pathogens will somehow escape the lab and destroy society. There is a need for security measures, of course, both physical security and protocols to be followed. Lab personnel must be forced to obey protocols, which means lab managers can't be complacent. Independent auditors must be used to ensure compliance with security and safety standards. The article has a legitimate point that complacency breeds mistakes, that is why periodic spot checks and security audits are necessary.

Otherwise, this article is a bit too simplistic in its approach. BSL-3 and BSL-4 labs are designed to be secure, but of course, humans must be held to the standards.

Researching diseases is necessary, and to not do so will not mean that we are safer or that a cure for the disease will magically appear.

Some of the outright paranoia and conspiracy theories in the other comments to this article represent the lowest common denominator thinking that all too often appears on this site. Some intelligent debate would be nice for a change instead of ranting and flaming comments about "fascists."

Just my humble opinion.

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As the world learns about enginering virus
Posted by: Rod on Mar 30, 2008 12:58 PM   
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The day WILL come when a perfect weapon virus can be designed. All (or most) vaccinated or given antidote etc will live, all others die. If, as an example, a religious extremist group develops one of these, and inoculates all their believers, and then releases it we die. If they miscalculate, we all die. This state of knowledge will be reached if the USA participates or not.

For this scenario, mutually assured destruction is one defense shown to work, we should have that capability. Knowing about the process of engineering virus might allow us the chance to develop treatments before we are all dead.

On the other hand, a shocking display of incompetence has been shown by the government and this administration, and by many other governments around the world. Such is to be expected from greed and cronyism. Science hate used to fool and or scare the masses world wide, allowing the ruling class to continue (short term?). This is leading me to want any research facility a long way downwind from me.

As normal, everything is complicated. I do not know of a solution, I just wanted to make this point. The genie is almost out of the bottle, so we can not stop progress.

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This is not progress but regress.
Posted by: nightgaunt on Mar 30, 2008 3:01 PM   
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Progress of our destruction isn't. Till we can cull the pathogenic thinkers from positions of power,let them be trash collectors,we will visit doom upon ourselves and our posterity. If there are any survivors. Death rate is usually 90% but what if they took the Russian inovation of bianary weapons.(Couple two different types of pathogens together to mop up the remaining 10%)
MAD in this case meaning release it and we all die. Finding cures is much harder than creating new and deadly forms of infectious death.
I would recomment the "Hot Zone" and also a new book "Lab 257" by Michawl Christopher Carroll on Plum Island and how poorly this high security lab was run.

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Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Mar 31, 2008 2:39 PM   
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I suggest everyone read "The Stand" by Stephen King. Our government has proven time and again that there isn't anyone in our current administration that I would trust to set up a lab to investigate the common cold let alone killer germs. Please. All I can say is read the book. It really could happen with the bunch we have in control now. They couldn't even get a B52 from one state to another without erroneously and unknowingly carrying nuclear weapons on board and they want to set up shop to play with horrendous contageous diseases. They'll cut so many corners to save a buck that I give them six months before there is some kind of super accident.

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Kelev
Posted by: Kelev on Apr 12, 2008 5:28 AM   
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Sad, but not surprising, little is said for the thousands of animals who are victims inside these Experimental Hell Holes wherein animals are exposed to terror, agonizing pain and death - Billions of our tax dollars are used for "Institutional, legalized Animal Abuse", BIG BUSINESS - a gravy train for the White Coats, and deadly, endless torment for the creatures used as "things" for experiments.
Disgusting betrayal of the creatures of our planet.

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