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Sedatives and Sex Hormones in Our Water Supply

By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!. Posted March 25, 2008.


An AP journalist who helped lead an frightening investigative report considers the dangers posed to the country's drinking water.

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AMY GOODMAN: Saturday was World Water Day, and the United Nations estimates close to 1.5 billion people around the world do not have access to clean drinking water. What about here in the United States?

The Associated Press has conducted an extensive investigation into the drinking water in at least twenty-four major American cities across the country, which contain trace amounts of a wide array of pharmaceuticals. The amounts might be small, but scientists are worried about the long-term health and environmental consequences of their presence in the water supplies of some forty-one million Americans.

The five-month investigation of sixty-two metropolitan areas and fifty-one smaller cities found that many drinking water suppliers, including bottled water companies, do not even test for the presence of drugs in the water. The utilities that do test for drugs often don't tell customers about the trace amounts of medications in their water.

Jeff Donn is a National Writer for the Associated Press and one of the reporters who led this investigation. He joins us now from Boston.

Welcome to Democracy Now!, Jeff. Why don't you start off, why you conducted this extensive five-month investigation? What tipped you off?

JEFF DONN: We were aware that there was some research, mostly in specialized technical journals, scientific journals, suggesting that there was this group of emerging contaminants, and one of the contaminants of most concern were pharmaceuticals in very low amounts. They've only been able to measure these kinds of pharmaceuticals well in the last ten years or so.

And we also were wondering -- I'm a former medical writer -- we were also wondering about pharmaceuticals in particular as a contaminant, because as opposed to traditional contaminants that you find in the water, pharmaceuticals are actually designed to interact with your body. So we wondered if that would pose special concerns and special problems.

AMY GOODMAN: So, how did you conduct the investigation? How did you find out what's in the water supply?

JEFF DONN: Essentially, we did two things. We checked scientific research, surveys that have been done already that they appeared in a variety of scientific journals. And then we did our own survey, and that's what you were referring to earlier in your introduction. We surveyed sixty-two large water utilities. Those are the people who bring drinking water to your homes and businesses. We also called fifty-one, fifty-two other smaller utilities, utilities in smaller cities, and we essentially asked them: What's been detected in your water? What kind of pharmaceuticals have been detected? And how do you treat your water? And does it cleanse your water of these pharmaceuticals?

AMY GOODMAN: So, who tests, and who doesn't? It seems like it broke into three categories: some test and know, some cities; some simply don't test for drugs; and some do test and don't reveal it.

JEFF DONN: That's right. About roughly half do test. And that was somewhat of a surprise. That really wasn't known before, because, like I said a moment ago, these pharmaceuticals in the water are contaminants that people weren't very well aware of and that have barely been reported on at all for the general public. It turns out that about half of the utilities either have tested themselves or are aware that someone else has tested. The USGS and other agencies, health departments also do some testing. And the vast majority that tested did find some pharmaceuticals in their water in these very low, trace amounts.

AMY GOODMAN: So let's talk about some of the examples: New York, traces of sedatives; Philadelphia, fifty-six drugs in the water; Denver, unspecified antibiotics; Las Vegas, I don't think I can even pronounce all of these drugs; Long Beach, California, unspecified drugs; Louisville, Kentucky, ibuprofen; Milwaukee, one drug; Minneapolis, three. Talk about what you found the most surprising, and go through the country, if you will.

JEFF DONN: I think what's most surprising is the range of drugs that are found and how widely dispersed these drugs are. It's not -- you might think it's just in the Northeast or it's just in California, it's just in population centers -- that's not true. There were places in the Midwest, where these kinds of drugs were found at all. There were some relatively less populated places than other places, where these drugs were found, as well. That's somewhat surprising. The range of drugs is somewhat surprising. Like you said, it's psychiatric medications, it's the antibiotics, it's pain relievers.

AMY GOODMAN: Let's talk about the psychiatric medications. Where did you find them?

JEFF DONN: There are -- one of the most common ones, Carbamazepine, is used as a mood stabilizer and an anti-epileptic medication as well. And Carbamazepine is found all over the country in these trace amounts. So it's the kind --

AMY GOODMAN: How does it get into the water supply?

JEFF DONN: That's a great question. These pharmaceuticals enter the water supply mainly, it would appear, through you, me and everybody else, through homes, through hospitals, through nursing homes. When we take a medication, when we take medicine, because we're sick, some of that medicine is absorbed by our bodies, and some of it passes right through our bodies. The relative share depends on the medication, but not all the medication is absorbed. So when you leave the bathroom, that medication enters into the waste stream. It goes through water treatment plants. Treatment plants are not designed to cleanse -- conventional treatment, at least, is not designed to cleanse all these pharmaceuticals, and some of them pass through, and some of these wastewater treatment plants are commonly upstream of your drinking water intakes all across the country. And those pharmaceuticals pass into the drinking water. Drinking water treatment in conventional form does not entirely cleanse them from the water stream, and they end up in varying degrees in our taps.

AMY GOODMAN: So it can either be through human waste, or you could be, for example, dumping this into the toilet, is that right? You could be emptying your medicine cabinet, for example.

JEFF DONN: You're exactly right. That's a whole 'nother avenue, by which pharmaceuticals enter the water stream. For years, people were told, and often told each other, that if you had a medicine that expired or you didn't need for some reason, you didn't take for some reason, dump it in the toilet so no one else can get at it, you know that it will be gone. But out of sight and out of mind -- but it turns out that that also contributes to these contaminants being in our water.

Since February of 2007, the federal government, for the first time, has put out guidelines for consumers, regular people like us, that, with the exception of a small number of medications that are particularly sensitive, generally the federal government now is asking people not to do that any longer, instead to mix those medicines with something unsavory so pets or children don't get at it -- coffee grounds, cat litter, something like that -- and to put it in a bag and to throw it in your regular garbage. What happens to it then is another question, but at least it doesn't directly and immediately enter the water stream.

AMY GOODMAN: What about that? What about when it's put in landfill and how it leaches into -- if it leaches into the water there?

JEFF DONN: That's the problem. There's not really much study of exactly how that process is occurring, but the scientists we talked to presume that to some degree it is possible, of course, that some of that pharmaceutical residue then will leach, as you say, from waste areas, from landfills, from dumps, and eventually end up back in the groundwater. And there is research, by the way, that shows that these low amounts of pharmaceuticals do end up -- are capable of ending up in aquifers, in the underground groundwater, and not just in streams and rivers and surface waters.

AMY GOODMAN: What about steroids given to cows and animals, Jeff?

JEFF DONN: Well, this is a whole 'nother avenue by which these drugs enter our water stream. Animals are given all kinds of drugs. Veterinary drugs are given to animals on farms. All kinds of antibiotics, all kinds of growth-promoting drugs are given to animals on farms. And these drugs eventually run off in rain and end up in the groundwater and in surface waters, and they're a whole 'nother large source of these pharmaceuticals that enter up -- that enter into the waste stream. Many of them are a lot like, or even in some cases identical to, human drugs. Some of them are different.

AMY GOODMAN: In San Francisco, you write that there's a sex hormone, what is it, Estrone in the water. What is that? How does that affect people?

JEFF DONN: These are used in hormone treatments and that women take at menopause and such. And they're -- the concern with sex hormones is that they're very powerful at even a very low levels. So there has been some concern for -- about these kinds of drugs for a longer time really than some of the other drugs that were detected in the water. It's been more like five, six, seven years that there's been some concern about sex hormones in the context of other kinds of chemicals that also, though not pharmaceuticals, have the ability to disrupt the human endocrine system. The scientists call them endocrine disruptors. So that's one of the older concerns in this very new field.

AMY GOODMAN: And the issue of cancer, people who are prone to cancer?

JEFF DONN: That's exactly right. There -- as you probably know, there are certain kinds of cancer that are prone to estrogen, and there is some concern that these kinds of pharmaceuticals, even in trace amounts, could possibly contribute to cancer. And even as we begin to talk a little bit about what the risk is, what the human risk is, there's even a little bit of research in human cells with these drugs at very, very low amounts, so the kind that are found in the environment, actually accelerating the growth of human cancer cells. That doesn't mean that they will do that in the human body, but it's just a first scientific hint that perhaps they could.

AMY GOODMAN: Jeff Donn, are there standards for drugs in the water around the country? What is the history of how water is protected, how we know what's in it? And what's going to happen now?

JEFF DONN: Well, there are really very few standards for pharmaceuticals. There are no national standards. In fact, the water utilities we surveyed aren't required to even test for them, much less to treat them. The kinds of things that are regulated in the water -- and there are many things that are regulated by the federal government in the water -- are things where the risk has been established: industrial chemicals, pesticides, people might think of dioxins. There are a lot -- people might think of lead. There are a lot of chemicals that have known risk to people.

Pharmaceuticals, at these low levels, are a newer kind of contaminant. The risk isn't very well understood yet, though we reported, probably for the first time, a body of emerging science that suggest that these low amounts could be a danger to people in the sense that they apparently can cause bad things to happen in human cells. And there's probably even a stronger case that these pharmaceuticals in the rivers and streams can cause harm to certain kinds of wildlife, fish. There's some work with low-level antidepressants with mussels and snails that suggest that these kinds of drugs can impair reproduction. So it's just the initial body of evidence that's suggesting that maybe there could be risk, but it's not a slam-dunk case like it is for certain industrial chemicals that are fully regulated.

AMY GOODMAN: In one of the pieces in the AP investigation, "No Standards to Test for Drugs in Water," it's written, "Congress held hearings in 2006 on endocrine-disrupting compounds after researchers discovered that the Potomac River, dotted with sewage treatment plants, contains feminized male bass which create egg yolk proteins, a process usually restricted to females. But the hearings produced no new proposals."

JEFF DONN: Yeah, and there were about, by the way, six trace pharmaceuticals, six different kinds of drugs, that were found in the Washington, D.C. area water in the survey we did, so they still have pharmaceuticals in their water. I think it's fair to say that not much in terms of concrete legislation came out of those hearings. People should know that the Senate Committee on the Environment, within hours of the release of our report, announced that it was going to be holding hearings on this whole issue, a much broader approach than the congressional committee took earlier. And they are talking about holding hearings on this issue in April.

AMY GOODMAN: And it's written, "At hospitals, the EPA flags about three dozen specific drugs as hazardous waste. [...] They say many hospitals still dump some of those hazardous pharmaceuticals into their other garbage. Also, the list hasn't been updated for years and ignores scores of troublesome newer drugs, including toxic chemotherapy agents."

JEFF DONN: The EPA says essentially that we can't keep up. Too many new drugs are introduced each year. We've got to base what we do on science, and we simply can't keep up with the number of new drugs that are being introduced on the market in hospitals, much less trying to regulate them in this way at home. So the EPA acknowledged that outright to us.

AMY GOODMAN: You also write about the difference between what the US and Europe is doing. After talking about Maine, which is preparing to accept unwanted pharmaceuticals on a grander scale, the federal and state governments have split the $300,000 cost to launch a four-county trial in coming months, where pharmaceutical buyers will take home prepaid mailers to send drug leftovers to a way station, where most will be picked up for transport to incinerators. Drug pollution stirs more anxiety in Europe, Canada and Australia. Why is that? And what is being done right now in Congress?

JEFF DONN: It is true that Europeans have been on the cutting edge of this, in some cases, more than American researchers even. They picked up on it earlier, recognized it as a potential threat earlier. Some of the best early research was done in Germany, for example. So they're a little more concerned about it, and they have national programs of a kind that we don't have to recapture some of these pharmaceuticals that are discarded. This is the issue we were talking about earlier with people having to throw away some of their medicines that have expired and they're not using for some reason.

So the French, for example, have had a program for some years where when you get medicine, you also get a prepaid mailer to send it back to the pharmacy if you don't use it, and that's eventually sent for incineration if it goes back to the pharmacy. And there was a poll done a couple years ago, and most French said they took part in that program, they participated in it. So it's not a strange idea to the Europeans. There's still limited regulation in other places in Europe, in Canada, in Australia, so there's this greater awareness, there's this greater concern, but there's still limited regulation and limited evidence on how great a concern this should be.

AMY GOODMAN: Also, bottled water, not even tested for any of this.

JEFF DONN: That's right. A lot of people think instinctively that, "Well, I drink bottled water. I don't have anything to worry about." As you say, the people in the bottled water industry acknowledged to us that they're not required to test for it. They don't test for these low amounts of pharmaceuticals. And by the way, I should say that we're talking about parts in billion or parts in trillion, very, very low amounts. They don't test for them. And as I said before, there's research showing that these trace pharmaceuticals can end up in groundwater. So part of the bottled water on the market is actually repackaged tap water, you have to remember, and then part comes from underground water sources. But since there's research that suggests that underground water sources can also carry these trace pharmaceuticals and their byproducts and since testing isn't done, bottled water isn't necessarily devoid of these contaminants either, I'm afraid to say.

AMY GOODMAN: Senator Lautenberg, Senator Boxer -- Lautenberg of New Jersey, Boxer of California --

JEFF DONN: Yeah, yep.

AMY GOODMAN: Your investigation has prompted calls for regulation and documentation of these drugs. Can you tell us what these senators are doing?

JEFF DONN: That's right. There's the Committee on the Environment that says it's going to hold hearings, as I said a moment ago. And then, other congressmen have pushed the EPA to establish a task force on this, to establish a more aggressive program for testing. There has been pressure on the EPA in the last week or two since our series came out. There has been pressure on state and local governments to do more testing. Illinois, for example, said that it's going to begin a testing program now. There's pressure to not only test, but to tell people when tests are taken and when these pharmaceuticals are found, because we found that the vast majority -- the vast majority -- of water providers do not routinely tell the public when they find these contaminants.

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Posted by: talkville on Mar 25, 2008 3:27 AM   
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It's always a dynamic; as a physical 'whole' I inter-act with the external environment. But there's another 'ecology', my own. It's about each aspect of ecology, internal and external and in each case we are poisoning, toxifying and wrecking it. My heart, my lungs, my nerves, my endocrine system, my digestive system, etc. etc. It is ALL developing dynamically and: differently..... and the overwhelming evidence does not in a positive direction. Now Value: is it worth it? Who profits?

Capitalism kills-- it is it's deepest and most secret Wish.

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Some perspective, please!
Posted by: Derek Maddox on Mar 25, 2008 3:27 AM   
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The surveys discussed in this interview found pharmaceutical chemicals in the water in a few parts per trillion! In other words, to get one cubic centimeter of some drug, an individual would have to consume over 264 million gallons of water. AND none of the drug residue (which is obviously water soluble) could wash out of your body in the meantime. If you drank your recommended eight 8 ounce glasses of water each day, that works out to 182.5 gallons per year. Do the math. You won't live long enough to drink enough water to get even 1 cc of a drug into you.

Next crisis, please!

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» wrong Posted by: abbadon2007
from my perspective
Posted by: kamcguffin on Mar 25, 2008 4:42 AM   
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I am allergic to antibiotics. I have occasionally been getting a reaction to my allergy from bought fresh vegetables. A handful of occurrences over the past two years. There is enough residue in the soil to be absorbed by the plants to give an anaphylactic reaction when consumed. It could be from the fertilizer or the water or in combination. I quit buying fruit from Florida when I heard someone from New York bragging about that city's solid waste being recycled into fertilizer and sold to citrus groves. It's not the solid waste I object to, it is the drugs flushed one way or another into the sewer system. Anti-depressants and "sex" drugs are quite new. Antibiotics aren't.

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Failed Product Stewardship-Indict and Convict!
Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 25, 2008 5:05 AM   
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Some say don't blame the pharmaceutical industry. But I do.

They are in mostly responsible for their products from "cradele to grave"- so called product stewardship.

As far as dose levels in the environment the issue,in my mind,is that these substances are probably more dangerous than other toxins or substances in the environmement because pharmaceuticals are designed to be biologically active.

Between ineffective or worse unsafe drugs and now this environmental contamination don't we have enough to indict and convict the culpable officers of some Big PhRMA companies?

I think so? How 'bout you?

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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I'm a science fiction nut
Posted by: willymack on Mar 25, 2008 8:11 AM   
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Right now, I'm re- reading "Contact", the only novel Carl Sagan (sadly) ever wrote. I just got finished reading "Firstborn" by Arthur C. Clarke and another author. What excites me is the possibilities for increasing our longevity manifold, either through genetic engineering or downloading our minds into a mobile body superficially resembling human form, but far more robust and durable. The possibilities are endless, but ONLY if we get our runaway population increase under control and actually REDUCE the population to one billion or less, through a concerted worldwide effort. If we don't do this, our very existence will be put in peril.

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Obviously a commie plot
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Mar 25, 2008 10:01 AM   
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;)

jdfu!

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You can treat your own water
Posted by: stellabloo on Mar 25, 2008 10:22 AM   
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One more time, ordinary activated carbon (as in a Brita filter-type water pitcher or cartridge system ) can remove residual chlorine, chlorination by-products and trace organic compounds.
And no, I don't work for a water company - I'm just a utility worker. Actually I work for the government - as a consultant.

In reality, even a pure mountain stream can harbour pathogens such as ghiardia. And although chlorine can safely disinfect water, the by-products of chlorination can be just as toxic in the longterm as any other trace compound. If you can smell the chlorine, you are really smelling these THM by-products.

Ordinary wastewater treatment was not designed to remove persistant chemicals, e.g. the hormones secreted in urine or the supercleaners rinsed down the sink.
You can do your part by keeping your own wastewater benign - do you really NEED that OTC medication, the foaming petroleum-ate bodywash or the scented wonder cleaner? Do you really want to be your own experiment in toxic waste?

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Transgenderism
Posted by: planet doomed on Mar 25, 2008 1:20 PM   
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I'm been wondering about the endocrine disruptive chemicals in the water supply, and transgenderism. These chemicals have to be causing some of the problems.

Plastics are also leaching endocrine chemicals into the environment. While this has been going on for years, researchers are only now beginning to understand the extent of the problem. The transgendered folks get really angry when you talk about it though. I don't understand their anger, or why they don't just take more of the hormone which cooresponds to their genetic body type.

There are at least a couple scientists who are specifically looking at the connection between chemicals from plastics and transgenderism. Elevated levels of these plastic derivatives have coorelated to increased proclivity to gender confusion, according to some studies which have already been published.

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Cognitive Dissonance
Posted by: westomoon on Mar 25, 2008 1:21 PM   
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Hm, one side of my brain is reading about how we didn't know about this and don't know about its effects and saying "mm-hmm" and "oh, wow".

The other side of my brain is listening to my local -- but Canadian -- radio station, which is running PSAs reminding people to bring their unwanted prescription and OTC medications to their local pharmacies, where they're being collected for hazardous-waste disposal. Canada already has a program to address this hazard -- how "unknown" can it be?

For years, it's been shameful to be an American, especially since Bush /Cheney took the wheel. But, even if we were psycopaths and bullies, and maybe not the smartest kids on the block anymore, at least we were cool. Now, it's starting to get embarassing -- we are so intellectually isolated, and so obliviously clueless.

Presumably, other nations do not start up large public-health programs without some scientific findings being published somewhere. Have we quit accepting information from the rest of the world?

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WOW - - surprise, surprise drugs in our water...?
Posted by: pfm on Mar 25, 2008 5:01 PM   
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It unfortunately does not comes as any surprise that “suddenly” academia, government regulators and mfr “see” there is a plethora of drugs, fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, cosmetics as well as pharmaceuticals in all forms of our water. Why now, because there’s “gold” in that there water, boys, now we can set standards while we pillage a plunder and make Americans and others world wide, sick from the water we have contaminated because we can pass forward to society and “externalize” most of the real long terms costs associated with our business. What’s not to like about the American free-for-profit-corporate-economic-system…?

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What about flouride?
Posted by: radiomorning on Mar 25, 2008 10:35 PM   
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I live in a city where debate has renewed in city hall about the flouride that has been in our water since a city referendum voted in favour of it some years ago. Statistically it has been shown to be ineffective at cavity prevention, so why is it there? These chemicals accumulate in our foods, both plant and animal, our soils and our own bodies.

The issue here isn't whether we can prove that it hurts us, but that this is taxpayer funded, public water, and no majority should be able to decide to medicate me against my will. I don't want to be medicated. I can floss and brush just fine, thank you. I don't want to drink flouride or boner juice, so what are my options?

I don't want to have to resort to buying my water form the Coca Cola company, so I think the only thing for it is to demand from our government that we have perfectly clean water untainted by whatever miracle drug they decide we just can't do without.

If, as some above have claimed, these trace amounts of chemicals can be removed with activated carbon filters, like a brita filter, then how is it that they get by the city's hi-tech filtration systems just fine?

At its root, this is a matter of individual liberty. For those of us trying to live naturally, it undermines our efforts and takes away our basic freedoms.

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JUST QUIT DRINKING THE FILTH
Posted by: mindtrvlr on Mar 25, 2008 11:02 PM   
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I quit drinking tap water 30 years ago because it is so vile and contminated. Hasn't hurt my health at all. There are plenty of alternatives out there, and I'am not talking about alcohol either.
Cheers

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Detergent is pseudo-estrogen
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Mar 27, 2008 9:29 PM   
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There is a lot more detergent in your water than drugs.

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Drugs in the Water
Posted by: Margarita on Mar 30, 2008 4:09 PM   
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I have had a theory about this issue and related issues for several years. First, while we have watched two Presidential races be stolen or rigged, I have often asked "What is wrong with people?! How stupid does our President have to be? How much arrogance will we all put up with from Dick Cheney? Why aren't people more angry and ready to stand up and say "No More!"

Approximately 4 to 6 years ago, the NIH reported numbers of people in the U.S. on antidepressants and sedatives. I believe that at the time, the number was around 68% of the national population. Maybe someone has more accurate information and could verify this for me.

In the process of taking over our nation, the right wing of the GOP and the elite of the Democratic Party who have obviously played along to get along, we the people, have been duped and lulled into this state of denial. Mind you, I believe that we are finally waking up from this denial state, but at what cost? If we accept the premise that the powered and elite of our nation have sold American soldiers and its working class down the river. They have had willing accomplices. Those willing accomplices have been and continue to be; the Defense Military/Contractors, Pharmaceutical Corporations, Special Interest Lobbyists and Mainstream Media that are owned by Corporate interests with dubious priorities. The willingness of all these parties resides on the foundation of greed over people.

Why is it so wacky to contemplate a conspiracy over the water? Our government is just so infallible, right? And the Tuskegee experiment never happen either, right? I pray that we continue to awaken and reengage in this election. Hillary Clinton and McCain will ensure that the current "government construct" will continue unabated. Obama may be the last chance we have to get our country back.

He who has hope has everything.

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Jimmy Buffet must be pleased.
Posted by: davescott on Mar 31, 2008 1:13 PM   
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Sedatives and sex hormones.... Kinda brings a whole new meaning to his song "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw?"

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Teflon: too scary for cooking, just FINE for cleaning YOUR TUB
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Mar 31, 2008 1:19 PM   
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why is WATER being contaminated?

because NOBODY MAKES A PROFIT OFF MUNICIPAL WATER.

Bottled water? oh hell yeah! brought to you by the SAME ASSHOLES who brought you SUGAR slavery & BigSugar monopolies in your school vending machines.

wake up.

the ROMANS could provide free water, but the USA can't? gee, wonder why? you should. Why do desalination projects seem to go on FOREVER but never actually start producing clean, reliable water supplies?

BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE BASTARDS WHO FUND YOUR POLITICIANS.

There is no WE in corruption

Consumption, Corruption & World Water Day - March 22

Consumerism: "An American Self-Portrait"

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TEAT Contamination Limits Before Panic !
Posted by: hadashito on Mar 31, 2008 10:14 PM   
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Since the US public and farmers are using (eliminating, and disgarding quantities of) pharmaceuticals far more than ever before, the recent report regarding the contamination of our drinking water supplies is of great value as a consciousness raiser. However, to employ words like "frightening" and any other usages that may induce unwarranted concern (or even panic) among the public who know little about contamination limits, the media (including AlterNet) should be careful to avoid overstating the danger. If our public commentators would wait a bit until the actual numerical values evaluating the degrees of contamination are determined, especially in the case of "new" contaminants, caution and reserve is called for. If the levels of contaminants are in the parts per billion range, the likelihood of danger to water drinkers is well below the far higher contamination levels of other highly toxic substances already present in our treated drinking water and carefully measured each day. If such low levels of drug related contaminants are found, the danger will likely be negligible even in the long term. Until the not-entirely-new idea that there are drugs in our water supplies is examined and the quantitative data are made available, a far more effective approach would be to inform our public to refrain from flushing unused drugs down the drain and require our farming community to reform their use of drugs in raising livestock. It is very probable, however, that a more environmentally conscientious administration in DC will have to take hold before anything of that nature is possible.

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TEAT Contamination Limits Before Panic !
Posted by: hadashito on Mar 31, 2008 10:14 PM   
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Since the US public and farmers are using (eliminating, and disgarding quantities of) pharmaceuticals far more than ever before, the recent report regarding the contamination of our drinking water supplies is of great value as a consciousness raiser. However, to employ words like "frightening" and any other usages that may induce unwarranted concern (or even panic) among the public who know little about contamination limits, the media (including AlterNet) should be careful to avoid overstating the danger. If our public commentators would wait a bit until the actual numerical values evaluating the degrees of contamination are determined, especially in the case of "new" contaminants, caution and reserve is called for. If the levels of contaminants are in the parts per billion range, the likelihood of danger to water drinkers is well below the far higher contamination levels of other highly toxic substances already present in our treated drinking water and carefully measured each day. If such low levels of drug related contaminants are found, the danger will likely be negligible even in the long term. Until the not-entirely-new idea that there are drugs in our water supplies is examined and the quantitative data are made available, a far more effective approach would be to inform our public to refrain from flushing unused drugs down the drain and require our farming community to reform their use of drugs in raising livestock. It is very probable, however, that a more environmentally conscientious administration in DC will have to take hold before anything of that nature is possible.

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