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How Lethally Stupid Can One Country Be?

By David Michael Green, AlterNet. Posted March 28, 2008.


Presidents and prime ministers will lie their countries into war -- but why do We the People keep buying it?

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Watching George W. Bush in operation these last couple of weeks is like having an out-of-body experience. On acid. During a nightmare. In a different galaxy.

As he presides over the latest disaster of his administration (No, it's not a terrorist attack -- that was 2001! No, it's not a catastrophic war -- that was 2003! No, it's not a drowning city -- that was 2005! This one is an economic meltdown, ladies and gentlemen!) bringing to it the same blithe disengagement with which he's attended the previous ones, you cannot but stop and gaze in stark comedic awe, realizing that the most powerful polity that ever existed on the planet twice picked this imbecilic buffoon as its leader, from among 300 million other choices. Seeing him clown with the Washington press corps yet once again -- and seeing them fawn over him, laugh in all the right places, and give him a standing ovation, also yet once again -- is the equivalent of having all your logic circuits blown simultaneously. Truly, the universe has a twisted and deeply ironic sense of humor. Monty Python is about as funny -- and as stiff -- as Dick Nixon, by comparison.

It's simply incomprehensible. It's not so astonishing, of course, that a country could have a bad leader whose aims are nefarious on the occasions when they are competent enough to rise to that level of intentionality. Plenty of countries have managed that feat, especially when -- as was the case with Bush -- every sort of scam is employed to steal power, and then pure corruption and intimidation used to keep it. History is quite littered indeed with bimbos and petty criminals of this caliber. What is harder to explain is how the citizens of a country of such remarkable achievements in other domains, and with the capacity to choose, allow this to happen. And then stand by silently watching for eight years as the tragedy unfolds before their eyes.

But let's give credit where credit is due. This is precisely by design. This is exactly the outcome intended by the greatest propaganda-promulgating regime since Hermann Göring set fire to the Reichstag. It was Göring himself who famously reminded us that, "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." Sure worked in Germany. And it worked even better here, because these guys were so absolutely careful to avoid exposing the costs of their war to those who could demand its end. For example, by some counts, there are more mercenaries in Iraq, at extremely high cost, than there are U.S. military personnel.

There's only one reason for that. If the administration implemented the draft that is actually necessary to supply this war with adequate personnel, the public would end both the war and the careers of its sponsors, post haste. For the same reason, this is the first American war ever which has not only not been accompanied by a tax increase, but has in fact witnessed a tax cut. Likewise -- to "preserve the dignity" of the dead, of course -- you are no longer permitted to see photographs of flag-draped caskets returning to Dover Air Force Base. And the press are embedded with forces who are also responsible for their safety, which is just a fancy way of saying that they're so censored they make Pravda look good. It is, in short, quite easy for average Americans to get through their day, every day, without the war impacting their lives in any visible respect, and that is precisely what hundreds of millions of us are doing, week in and week out. All of this is courtesy of an administration that couldn't run a governmental program to save its own life -- but, boy, it sure as hell knows how to market stuff.

Perhaps Americans and American democracy are no wiser or better than any other people or political system, even today, even after the worst century of warfare in human history, even after the mirror-image experience of Vietnam. Maybe the experience of Iraq hasn't even changed them, and they'll once again follow like lemmings when led to war by pathetic creatures such as George W. Bush, 50 years from now. Or five years from now. Or even five months from now, as Dick Cheney tees up a confrontation with Iran in order keep Democrats out of the White House and himself out of jail.

Sure, presidents and prime ministers, no less than kings and führers, will lie their countries into war. Sure, they're very good at it and getting better all the time. Definitely a frightened people are more prone to stupidity than those lucky enough to contemplate in the luxury of quiet safety. Without question, it helps an awful lot -- if you're just Joe Sixpack, out there trying to figure out international politics in between a long day's work, helping the kids with their algebra homework, and the Yankee game -- to have a checking-and-balancing Congress, a responsible opposition party, and/or a critical media helping you to understand the issues accurately, rather than gleefully capitulating to executive power at every opportunity. But that by no means excuses a public who was fundamentally far more lazy than they were ignorant or confused. And lazy is one thing when you're talking about a highway bill or even national healthcare. But when it comes to war, lazy is murder.


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The Next Chapter Has Been Written
Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 28, 2008 12:46 AM   
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Barbara Tuchman wrote a brilliant book on this kind of thing. It's called The March of Folly and I recommend that you read it if you haven't and re-read if you have read it in the past.

Here is a portion of an article that describes the book:
"To qualify as folly for this book, Tuchman explains, acts have to be clearly contrary to the self-interest of the organization or group pursuing them; conducted over a period of time, not just in a single burst of irrational behavior; conducted by a number of individuals, not just one deranged maniac; and, importantly, there have to be people alive at the time who pointed out correctly why the act in question was folly (no 20/20 hindsight allowed)."
Leo Hourvitz- stoneschool.com (see reviews)

I think that the whole Bush escapade, from his appointment to the last minutes on inauguration day 2009 will qualify for Ms Tuchman's definition. Unless things change, and I'm not encouraged, this will mark the apex of the American nation and culture. We will drown in a sea of debt, plutocracy, decimated international influence, defiled culture, societal ignorance, graft, deindustrialization and debased environment.

I don't relish the thought and do not think it has to be this way of such a precipitous decline, but history shows just how sharply the fate of nations can change and we live in a time when timescales are very compressed by historical standards. It's not too late, but it's pretty damn late.

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I'll tell ya why Americans keep buyin' it
Posted by: Dboy on Mar 28, 2008 1:17 AM   
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Yes, obviously Americans are idiots, but...

Regarding Iraq, we were given information(propaganda) that supported going into Iraq. Even Colin Powell testified (UN speech) on the topic. At that time, Powell could do no wrong and was really the only person that Americans believed in..of course he was proven to be just as much a lying dirt-bag as the rest of them, but we didn't know that then. Americans were freaked out. Afterall, 9/11 was a very successful attack, very well planned, very well targeted (the choice of WTC made alot of sense, regardless of who actually picked the target).

At that time nobody considered the possiblity that the victims of 9/11 were actually killed by their own government, or that Mossad was pre-positioned in NYC that day, or that WTC-7 fell over without being hit by a plane...we didn't know most of that stuff, and most people STILL don't. We might be a touch less gullible that we were in 2001, but not much less.

We continue to fall for these wars because each time the story is different enough, and the story is manufactured smartly enough, and the information is controlled enough that Americans really can't do much more than give our criminal government the benefit of the doubt.

Besides, even if Americans were dead-set against a particular war, what could we do about it anyway? We do not control this government. We don't even have a say in this government. This is a rogue state, as all Alternet readers already know. So the government doesn't really have to sell these wars all that hard. Between media manipulation and American's generally ignorance about the world, selling a war is a cakewalk.

dboy

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» This is how you guys lose credibility Posted by: democracynowiniraq
» RE: the credibility problem is YOURS! Posted by: edgeofnowhere
» Sorry, Dboy Posted by: Aimleft
» Colin Powell - Iran-Contra Posted by: jparsons
Given a choice between admitting we have been screwed and hoping we have not
Posted by: Rune on Mar 28, 2008 1:31 AM   
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most people will choose to hang on to hope, no matter how slim, then reckon with the despair that is worthy of the most likely conclusions supported by the evidence surrounding them. It is just too painful and demoralizing to admit that things really are as corrupt and dire as intuition or analysis suggest, so a hasty retreat into the fantasy of nationalism, jingoism, and, these days, consumerism, however scaled down and cheapened, makes for a welcome shelter from reality. Works like a charm for most folks, it seems.

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» RE: superior education=bad Posted by: e rice
» Its just too painful... Posted by: Cathyc
Good background knowledge for all of us.
Posted by: HKG_sputnik on Mar 28, 2008 2:18 AM   
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I hope that most people have already heard of and read this book: 'Shock Doctrine' by Naomi Klein (author's website: http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine). If you haven't, seriously consider reading it. It's scary and disillusioning, but knowledge is still power - doing something with that knowledge is the next step.

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How Stupid Indeed
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 28, 2008 3:00 AM   
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We've got to face some serious facts here, campers: The American people are among the stupidest creatures to ever walk on two feet. Case in point: FOX and Friends.

NEWS FOR IDIOTS
Every once in a while, I'll tape an entire two hour segment of FOX and Friends. It is the modern day equivalent of watching the old, 1965 movie, Hold On! starring the deservedly forgotten British pop band, Herman's Hermits - so mind-fuckingly awful that it's actually fun to watch. The very fact that this lame assemblage of info-taining, trivial nonsense is the highest rated morning cable "news" program is instructive when trying to get to the bottom of the question as to why the American people are the dumbest, least informed, unenlightened people this side of the Milky Way and why we are - no doubt about it - the laughjingstock of the entire planet.

FOX Noise is merely a propaganda wing of the Republican National Committee. It's message is as simplistic as it is unbalanced:

CONSEVATIVE=GOOD. LIBERAL=BAD.
Think of it as Mallard Fillmore in real time.

Don'cha feel kinda silly being a citizen of this sick, twisted country? Jeepers Creepers, I sure do!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Bush's War

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» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: Moira61
» Dear Moira, Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Dear Moira, Posted by: chuckjs
» Second-rate health care? SOLD! Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: Second-rate health care? SOLD! Posted by: richholland
» RE: Second-rate health care? SOLD! Posted by: LongBeachDave
» RE: Dear Moira, Posted by: babs
» RE: Canada? Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: Canada? Posted by: fringedweller
» RE: Dear Moira, Posted by: Ocean tides
» RE: Dear Moira, Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: Joe
» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: dangerouslysane
» RE:I'll Say It ONce Posted by: walldodger1969
» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: Badger1492
» Stupid not, Washed over yes, and IGNORED Posted by: common intelligence
» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: jtgh
» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: Dboy
» RE: How Stupid Indeed Posted by: Midwesterners
Joe Lieberman as Secretary of Defense?
Posted by: Luther Blissett on Mar 28, 2008 4:18 AM   
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"Joe "Make-me-SecDef-Mac-oh-please-pick-me-Mac" Lieberman"

Now that's scary! Damn, that's scary.

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The NEOCON-Likudnik agenda
Posted by: rugger on Mar 28, 2008 4:24 AM   
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You want to know why we invaded Iraq? Look at the PNAC doctrine, written by rabid Zionists. Everything since then has fallen in to place according to their grand scheme, the disinformation campaign, the squelching and manipulation of news regarding the Palestinian issue, etc. etc. And now, that same sort of disniformation campaign is occurring in prepapration for an attack on Iran.

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 28, 2008 4:28 AM   
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See the On/Off button on your remote?

Push it.


Direct Democracy

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» You can turn off the TV But not it's influence Posted by: common intelligence
Ditto except
Posted by: solrev on Mar 28, 2008 4:40 AM   
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Every one seems to keep omitting the real reason we are in Iraq. Oil was just the payoff; we are there to protect Saudi Arabia from al-qaeda, not to protect us from al-qaeda. Our military in Saudi Arabia was a calling card for al-qaeda. Saudi Arabia is the real target of al-qaeda. We can not let the Islamic fundamentalist have Saudi Arabia until we use up all the oil. The day that happens, the royals are history. Nothing is going to change until we adapt an energy policy that takes oil out of the equation. Do not be fooled by the government green handouts, those are for welfare jobs. Did you know that it took 2 billion years for algae to convert a co2 atmosphere on this planet to an o2 atmosphere that can support the existing animal life forms? You can make a lot of biodiesel out of algae and use up a lot of co2. Hell let’s use corn and beans, its good for business.

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» RE: Ditto except Posted by: jvaljon1
» RE: Ditto except Posted by: GrannyBgood
The U.S. is a Human Ant Farm
Posted by: CommentCulture on Mar 28, 2008 4:49 AM   
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people are affraid of losing what little they have.

Most people I know are not people any longer. They have become SHEEPLE.

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Remember one thing...
Posted by: Farasien on Mar 28, 2008 5:18 AM   
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Bu$hco is in office not as a direct result of the people, but as a result of vote theft and fraud. Twice. The American people (of which I'm a member) don't do anything because of almost an entire generation of stupification brought on by their government educations. We're told not to resist, not to question or rock the boat. Students who do end up getting ostracized at best. As in the days of Rome, the government is trying to take over everything, and so long as the people get their blood, circuses and bread, nobody will raise a hand to stop the atrocities that are now commonplace in american policy, both foreign and domestic.

Get used to the USA FUBARing everything it touches. Sorry progressives, but its only going to get worse, no matter who (assuming there IS an election...) the next president is.

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» RE: emember one thing... Posted by: willymack
A great example of the folly described above:
Posted by: supercrisp on Mar 28, 2008 5:25 AM   
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In Human Smoke, NIcholson Baker documents German Jewish bankers donating money to Nazi political campaigns, saying that Hitler was a solid guy and didn't really mean all those things he said about the Jews. Yikes. It's somewhere before page 62.

In other news, my parents were some of those poor folks who consistently voted Republican. Not quite as extreme an example, but still ill-advised.

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Great article, but you, too hide from 9/11 Truth
Posted by: pfgetty on Mar 28, 2008 5:30 AM   
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I couldn't agree more with this article. Great points made. But I feel that, along with the rest of the press, this author and this website is part of the problem. They have decided that the real story of 9/11 should not be investigated. They have decided that the American people should not know the real story, the 9/11 Truth, that it is better for some reason that Americans remain ignorant of the truth of that fateful day. This author knows, and so do those who publish Alternet, that our government was complicit in 9/11. But they know what is best for us, and they have decided, along with Amy Goodman and the Nation and the rest of the press that SHOULD be giving us the facts and investigations regardless of where it takes us, that actually dealing with this issue publicly would not enhance whatever their goals and causes are. So they purposely ignore the most important issue, the worst crime in American history, and then pride themselves that they are the truly free and independent and bold press.
I want answers. I want to know why there is this conspiracy to keep this issue out of the left wing press. We are losing the battle to Neocons and the rightwingers. We will be in Iraq forever, and Afghanistan, and push into more areas, until our imperial overreach destroys us. Should I blame the NYTimes? Or Alternet?
There is one issue which, if brought into the light, would completely turn around our immoral and self destructive policies............9/11 Truth. Why hide from it?

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Society is Lacking:
Posted by: curiousdwk on Mar 28, 2008 5:49 AM   
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Our society is lacking in the following four areas. These are not taught in school, nor are they learned by us after school. Unless we make a deliberate attempt to learn them.

1) Critical Analysis. (The success of marketing advertisements proves this point.)

2) Empathy (to understand what and why a person thinks and feels the way(s) that they do)

3) Ethics/Justice (We leave ethics for religion and justice to our Justice system which is a shame on both counts. We don't speak of personal ethics or justice.)

4) Conflict Management. (Evidenced by our spousal abuses, child abuses, elder abuses, etc.)

Lacking these, we want to have a government lead us even if that government is strong and wrong. We don't want to buck the government and would rather have the government fuck us.

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» RE: Society is Lacking: Posted by: metryjen
» RE: Society is Lacking: Posted by: using
» RE: Society is Lacking: Posted by: JadedEvan
Archie Bunker would rather die...
Posted by: zooeyhall on Mar 28, 2008 6:33 AM   
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then admit that he got SCREWED!! That he was wrong and the Repubs LIED TO HIM!

I live in rural Nebraska, and the people out here would rather die then admit that they were wrong. Living economically insecure lives, they really clued into the Conservative message--starting with Reagan in 1980. Then came the Conservatives with their message, and YEAH!--Herbie Husker and Ronnie Redneck now had something to blame for their troubles. It was the Gays, the "Liberals", the feminists, the ACLU, the people who opposed school prayer and were for freedom of choice--yes, these were the Dark Forces responsible for the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs. Then came 9-11 and Bush II set himself up as the knight in white armour. Yeah! Now we'll show those f*ckin' Ay-rabs and sand niggers! Go USA!!!!

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» Keep in mind, though. . . Posted by: redceres
» RE: Yeah, Who Would Jesus Bomb? Posted by: GrannyBgood
» Here's to Sinclair Lewis Posted by: woodford54
rn
Posted by: mnatra on Mar 28, 2008 6:40 AM   
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This is a great and informative article, For many people who still have no idea what has happened since 9/11; it is a good primer.But like most articles posted her on alter net they are dictatorship 101. Introductory ,There is a much deeper level of discussion that underly s the whole process and why we are headingg to a complete dictatorship, since Bush took power.This is serious, yet only a few of us are really alarmed.

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Mr Krauthammer's Koolaid
Posted by: GrannyBgood on Mar 28, 2008 6:45 AM   
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This morning I found an op-ed by Charles Krauthammer in the Bangor Daily news, entitled, '"Staying in Iraq: a hopeful outcome"
(Had to put the link in the next comment; said it wouldn't fit here)

Read it! it's unbelievably twisted! He accuses those who pick on McCain's "100 years" of using that "Killer Soundbite" to promote "Dirty Lies"! (notice he left out McCain's BOMB BOMB BOMB Iran ditty!)
I responded to him, and I'll send him this op-ed piece instead, suggesting he learn something from it (as IF!)

Mr Krauthammer:

What IDIOCY!
A "Killer Soundbite"!? You mean like the Zionazi Media broadcasting Rev Wright's one incendiary remark out of context ad Nauseum, or the Dean Scream? Or Obama's middle name?

After the renewed violence since Easter, it is once again obvious the "surge" is NOT working, and to most rational people, who understand that if the tables were turned WE would ourselves be resisting an OCCUPATION, it is quite obvious that there WILL be no peace until we LEAVE!
Have you been drinking the same Koolaid as our idiot AWOL "President" who had the gall to stand up yesterday and give yet another speech totally disconnected from the Reality we can all see for ourselves (Or didn't his speech writer have time to write a new one? Obama writes his own because he can THINK for HIMSELF! And really! WHERE do they continue to find enough barking clapping seals eager to gobble down every rotten herring he throws them to put in his audience !?).
..or are you just another evil Neocon like Cheney, busy undermining THIS country so we can continue to do Israel's bidding, right up to fighting her dirty proxy wars!?
"A dirty Lie"? Propaganda is YOUR name.
BW

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» RE: link:Mr Krauthammer's Koolaid Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: link: Ya don't have to be Jewish... Posted by: dangerouslysane
world is reduced to a simple principle
Posted by: Richard House on Mar 28, 2008 6:58 AM   
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"... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is..." provide the fear factor, or the religious factor. In the end, we have to seriously ask ourselves whether we have free will. Priests and politicians say you do. Nice delusions.

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Americans are not Idiots
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Mar 28, 2008 7:00 AM   
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Not all Americans are idiots, not even most of them, but the vast majority of them are kept ignorant. In America todaty it takes a lot of work not to be kept ignorant and most people do not have the time or inclination to avoid ignorance.

Keeping Americans ignorant of what their government is doing in their name and what large corporations are doing to them has long been the agenda of at least some of the media. With the consolidation of the media into a very few corporate hands it has become the agenda of nearly all of the media.

To a large extent this agenda has been been assumed without particular malice and not because of a particular political agenda. Corporations are interested in making money and for the most part only in making money, but this makes the now corporate media particularly vulnerable to control by the government because government can have a strangle-hold on the news that is most profitable, that is easiest to gather and sell.

Democratic government depends on an open media and an informed public. This administration has consciously and systematically, using a compliant media, closed down the media to keep the public uninformed. This is the road to despotism and it needs to be reversed.

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» you have it backwards Posted by: e rice
» Chickens and Eggs Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: Corporations are property of individuals Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» RE: 2 Wrongs Don't Make a Right Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» RE: Chickens and Eggs Posted by: e rice
» leisure activities Posted by: e rice
But of course!
Posted by: sawdust on Mar 28, 2008 7:02 AM   
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Great article and some equally great comments. It's too bad we are all so terminally stupid, or more people would read this stuff.But first you have to get them to turn off Fox Noise and PAY ATTENTION!

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» RE: But of course! Posted by: Zeugitai
Answer: Becasue Americans are idiots
Posted by: joeunix on Mar 28, 2008 7:10 AM   
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Want proof that Americans are idiots? Watch the video.

(And no, I don't support Ron Paul. However, this video gets to the heart of the matter)

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» RE: You completely missed the point Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» America is NOT a democracy! Posted by: Cathyc
get out of the box
Posted by: siamdave on Mar 28, 2008 7:21 AM   
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- complaining is fine, I well understand the frustration. But we need to do something about this - and the first step is simply getting out of the box. Easy to say, but a very big step, requiring much courage. Learn more here - They're Building a Box - and You're In It

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estherme
Posted by: estherme on Mar 28, 2008 7:35 AM   
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Most Americans are stupid and you can't fix stupid! For those who voted for this SOB, how unintelligent to vote for an alcoholic, drug addict and military deserter of duty! If a Democrat was guilty of these severe character defects, you would have made sure it was all over the media and would have pursued it to no end!
Research has shown that alcolol and drug addiction destroys brain cells and this administration has a lot of mental defects to get us in the mess we are in! I agree that most of the dirty deeds done by this administration was on purpose. They needed a front man to bring down the fall of America to Fascism as it is today.
Beware, they are not done yet! Continue your stupidity and make sure you vote for someone who will continue this Nazi dictator's policies! See www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread339406/Pg1
video Re: book "End of America" by Naomi Wolf. The fascist closing down of an open democracy. www.youtube.com/watch?tv=RjALF/2PAWc. Americans reward the incompetents and vote against their own best interests. They love to give more to the greedy hoping they will get some too. But alas, you have to be in the "big boys" club to get it all! The hell with the rest of us. As I said you can't fix stupid!

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What Do You Expect?
Posted by: Southern Gal on Mar 28, 2008 7:41 AM   
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What do you expect when the government is controlled by corporations, the media IS big corporations, and everything that you see or hear is controlled by corporations? Define what you are doing as patriotism, tell people that this country is the greatest one on earth, that we are being attacked and that we are the good guys in the white hats and people want to believe you. Our whole history has been sanitized. We have been fed lies for years and it takes some independent thinking, reading and seeing alternative sources of information to learn the truth, or as near to the truth as you can get. Maybe we have become more stupid. Our environment is full of chemicals that fry our brains and make us physically and mentally ill. We know that our government spies on us and that even people who promote peace can be hauled off to jail as terrorists, which makes people less likely to look outside their familiar box.

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Well? As long as America stays VIOLENT and fights wars for finite resources
Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 28, 2008 8:33 AM   
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rather than putting forth the ability to grow its own, it'll stay its course. Why not reward people who try to conserve rather than tax them to death and why aren't you talking about the OBSCENE fares on metro or for that matter public transportation coupled with poorer and poorer quality? Why isn't the "free" market doing its work of dictating as it's supposed to? And why do we keep allowing Big Oil, Coal, Chemical, etc ... to put phoney patents and stipulations on solar, wind, geothermal, etc ... all in the name of RIGGING the market and mislabelling it as "free"? Connect the dots and fight back and stop condescending those of us who are trying.

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It's the CFR, Stupid!
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Mar 28, 2008 8:37 AM   
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As long as the CFR controls the boundaries of debate, the population will remain under de facto enslavement. Anyone who does any research knows that the only way to explain the depth of the ignorance is to accept that there is some sort of sinister plot, one that rivals the worst of any sci-fi novel!

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WE NEED A PLAN
Posted by: using on Mar 28, 2008 9:08 AM   
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This is a very informative and insightful article. And I certainly can understand the author's disdain with us, the ordinary, beer guzzling, family oriented, hardworking, algebra helping, tax paying, middle class American. I do however, take some offense at the anger he directs at us -- since we are not completely to blame...after all if my memory services me correctly, we did not exactly elect Bush -- he and his group stole the election from Gore..and our courts supported Bush and his cronies..which pinpoints the level our republic's current decline. The take over of our government and media by our global corporations and conservatives was slow and insidious. WE, including you sir, allowed this country to deteriorate piece by piece.......And what could we, including your sir, have done about it....opened our windows and yelled...."We are so mad and We are not going to take it any longer?"
So, I was hoping that your next article would help us find a productive way to re-think our situation and organize? We, the enlightened ones, need to start focusing on the "how to's" of change..and create an uplifting evolutionary process,helping to facilitate change, for no matter who is elected..if we want an active, alert populace that can support a democracy, we have to have a unified plan(at this point in our demise) of advocating for and supporting the needs that best serve the interest of an ever more enlightened humanity.

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"The messenger" dearherb@yahoo.com
Posted by: Herbert Levinson on Mar 28, 2008 9:16 AM   
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"How Lethally Stupid Can One Country Be"?

Plenty stupid! Because, American schools have not taught the truth. We as American all thought We knew the truth according to our studies and the propaganda hatched by the media.

If people want to know the truth. Its readily available on the Internet. I have been sending the truth to all the large eleemosynary organizations. Now the truth is out. That's why you see such a hubbub of people come out of the woodwork at all the caucuses and candidate gathering.

For a revelation insert "The Rothschild blood line", "The Arms of Krupp",The Rockefeller syndicate, JP Morgan Russell&Co,The Federal Reserve conspiracy, The Bilderbergers, WWI and WWII into your search window, in various combinations. This will give you the major players and their connections. This has been an on go thing dating back to the American Revolutionary, The Hessians and our Civil War.

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What a great, and apt, title
Posted by: kentigereyes@yahoo.com on Mar 28, 2008 9:53 AM   
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for a disturbingly true article. Thank you Mr. Green. I have more to say but I am plum worn out from recommending so many of the comments. I will close with this comment: the United States of Arrogance is in very deep doo. It may not recover. But then, no country has ever been on top forever. Ken

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THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE
Posted by: fg on Mar 28, 2008 9:54 AM   
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isn't (yet?) capable of discharging its civic responsilbity. A poor commentary on our system of government.

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Yeehaw!
Posted by: QQOblivion on Mar 28, 2008 9:59 AM   
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Americans are not only stupid, they have no sense of right and wrong, it seems either.
For instance, most Americans want an end to American involvement in Iraq (which is good), but NOT because the war is based totally upon lies or because war is wrong and evil in the first place and should only be undertaken as the absolutely last resort.
Instead, Americans are just worried about the fact that the US is not succeeding over there (But I forgot about the "success" of the Surge. "Yeeehhawww!") and about the fact that the war is harming our economy ("Forget about all those dead innocent people in that far-away country. What matters is if *I* can still afford my latte!").

Never mind all those dead (brown) people. Hey, Americans are just lucky we have never had a war on OUR soil in quite some time. (No wonder we don't empathize.) That could soon change, however, especially if mad-man McCain is elected president.

And coming soon: The US will attack Iran, it seems. Do I think that Americans will fall for the lies AGAIN?
I would bet good money on that.

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I glad someone else said this for I am tired ............
Posted by: The Big Raven on Mar 28, 2008 10:36 AM   
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of telling the world just how stupid america really is.
Peace is what we make it!

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Stupid is as Stupid does: like 'electing' neoliberal Politicians at all
Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 28, 2008 11:33 AM   
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levels of government to slowly dismantle the only piece of progressive reforms in US history.

Like getting hoodwinked by flowery but empty rhetoric of 'peace, liberty, freedoms' while the government blatantly goes around propping up vrutal dictatorships around the globe, and undermining peace and democracies.

How many times are Americans going to fall for 'Gulf of Tonkin', 'I