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Calling B.S. on the Idea of 'Marijuana Addiction'

By Paul Armentano, AlterNet. Posted March 22, 2008.


It's laughable that the Feds are pushing the concept of pot addiction when science shows that withdrawal symptoms from caffeine are far worse.

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The U.S. government believes that America is going to pot -- literally.

Earlier this month, the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse announced plans to spend $4 million to establish the nation's first-ever "Center on Cannabis Addiction," which will be based in La Jolla, Calif. The goal of the center, according to NIDA's press release, is to "develop novel approaches to the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of marijuana addiction."

Not familiar with the notion of "marijuana addiction"? You're not alone. In fact, aside from the handful of researchers who have discovered that there are gobs of federal grant money to be had hunting for the government's latest pot boogeyman, there's little consensus that such a syndrome is clinically relevant -- if it even exists at all.

But don't try telling that to the mainstream press -- which recently published headlines worldwide alleging, "Marijuana withdrawal rivals that of nicotine." The alleged "study" behind the headlines involved all of 12 participants, each of whom were longtime users of pot and tobacco, and assessed the self-reported moods of folks after they were randomly chosen to abstain from both substances. Big surprise: they weren't happy.

And don't try telling Big Pharma -- which hopes to cash in on the much-hyped "pot and addiction" craze by touting psychoactive prescription drugs like Lithium to help hardcore smokers kick the marijuana habit.

And certainly don't try telling the drug "treatment" industry, whose spokespeople are quick to warn that marijuana "treatment" admissions have risen dramatically in recent years, but neglect to explain that this increase is due entirely to the advent of drug courts sentencing minor pot offenders to rehab in lieu of jail. According to state and national statistics, up to 70 percent of all individuals in drug treatment for marijuana are placed there by the criminal justice system. Of those in treatment, some 36 percent had not even used marijuana in the 30 days prior to their admission. These are the "addicts"?

Indeed, the concept of pot addiction is big business -- even if the evidence in support of the pseudosyndrome is flimsy at best.

And what does the science say? Well, according to the nonpartisan National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine -- which published a multiyear, million-dollar federal study assessing marijuana and health in 1999 -- "millions of Americans have tried marijuana, but most are not regular users [and] few marijuana users become dependent on it." The investigator added, "[A]though [some] marijuana users develop dependence, they appear to be less likely to do so than users of other drugs (including alcohol and nicotine), and marijuana dependence appears to be less severe than dependence on other drugs."

Just how less likely? According to the Institute of Medicine's 267-page report, fewer than 10 percent of those who try cannabis ever meet the clinical criteria for a diagnosis of "drug dependence" (based on DSM-III-R criteria). By contrast, the IOM reported that 32 percent of tobacco users, 23 percent of heroin users, 17 percent of cocaine users and 15 percent of alcohol users meet the criteria for "drug dependence."


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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 22, 2008 12:07 AM   
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Legalize Marijuana


Direct Democracy

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» RE: Terrorist Posted by: paula.c
A person can get hooked on weed
Posted by: Adler Berriman Seal on Mar 22, 2008 12:13 AM   
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Call it what you will, a person can get hooked on weed.

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» I call it "habituated." Posted by: Rune
» RE: A person can get hooked on weed Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: A person can get hooked on sex Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» you speak of a small group Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» I, for one, agree ... Posted by: vegngrl
» RE: A person can get hooked on weed Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: an addendum Posted by: donl51
call it what you will
Posted by: argyle on Mar 22, 2008 12:39 AM   
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a person can get hooked on anything.

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» i was hooked on phonics Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
Politicizing Medicine
Posted by: drjasonmd on Mar 22, 2008 1:27 AM   
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THC is not an addictive substance, at least not by any medical definition. Being addicted to THC is like saying you're addicted to chocolate. Just because you really like something, and have regular access to it, does not mean you're addicted. Addiction has a definition, and people would be well served by LOOKING IT UP.

This legitimization of pseudoscience-to-medicine really stems from the DSM, the diagnostic manual that charlatans . . . err, mental health professionals use to "diagnose" mental diseases. It is compiled by a panel of shrinks, many of them BigPharma stakeholders, who periodically VOTE on what to include. Only theories are offered as the cause of diseases, and these theories are never proven in the laboratory. Despite the fact that psychiatry is the only branch of medicine that never identifies the etiology of the diseases that it treats every day, we are told to trust them to pump up people's brains with mind altering substances to "cure" them of the "diseases" that they voted on (are they still trying to cure homosexuals?).

Many good, sound, peer-reviewed studies have failed to conclude that marijuana is addictive, so now the government and BigPharma are doing an end-around on the scientific method and taking their message directly to the public. There is not a single, large, peer-reviewed study in the history of medical science that has come to the conclusion that marijuana is addictive, so now Uncle Sam is going to fund the studies directly with the implicit understanding that any conclusion that goes contrary to the "war on drugs" dogma will end funding.

I wonder what the long term health effects are of locking millions of otherwise innocent Americans in cages with hardened criminals, taking away their right to vote, destroying their careers, their families. That is something that can actually be measured, but no one is measuring it. I wonder why.

The war on drugs was an invasion predicated on lies, fear mongering, and doctored intelligence (by non-doctors). Despite failing to show any progress, despite ample time and obscene expenditures in lives and treasure, it continues unabated. Sound familiar?

U.S. out of C.N.S!

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» Terminology Posted by: RON_KING
» RE: Terminology Posted by: drjasonmd
» RE: Politicizing Medicine Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Politicizing Medicine Posted by: drjasonmd
» RE: Politicizing Medicine Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Politicizing Medicine Posted by: drjasonmd
» Now, I don't agree Posted by: vegngrl
This IS the twenty-first Century, right?
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 22, 2008 2:49 AM   
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How many people have we known in our lives who have died from too much booze or two many cigarettes. How many people have you known personally in your lifetime who have died as a result of too much pot? Not only have I never known anyone to die in that matter, I am not aware of it happening in all recorded human history!

The fact that we are still having this debate in 2008 is amazing to me. Just incredible.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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Smokin' and Tokin'
Posted by: farmertx on Mar 22, 2008 4:09 AM   
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As one who has done both for a number of years, I can honestly say that I can forgo Marijuana much easier than I can Tobacco.
Shrubs booming Economy has reduced my ability to obtain decent smoke, which is no problem. I miss it, sure. But I'm not out hunting it or considering robbery or theft as a way to fund it.
That some would try and get on the Government wagon to "treat" this problem (that doesn't exist)
is no surprise. That is the nature of the Greedy. A class that has grown beyond belief. Now there is a behavior that needs treating. But it would be embarrassing for all the CEO's and politician's to sign up for rehab. So they create a problem where one doesn't exist and take advantage of the widely discredited Killer Weed myth of Hurst and Anslinger.

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Other issues
Posted by: carbon-based on Mar 22, 2008 4:46 AM   
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I just heard the other day of a study that recently came out saying pot smokers have 5 times the chance of lung disease.

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Long-term marijuana smoking significantly impairs lung function, according to a study published this month, which also found that smoking one cannabis joint has the adverse effects of up to five tobacco cigarettes.

"Habitual use of cannabis may cause asthma and chronic bronchitis," Dr. Richard Beasley from Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, Wellington, told Reuters Health. "The current initiatives to reduce tobacco smoking should also include attempts to reduce cannabis smoking."

Withdrawal if any is just a side issue!

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» Nonsense. Posted by: thoughtcriminal
» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: drjasonmd
» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: ConnecttheDots
» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: Timba
» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: lively56
» RE: Other issues Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: Other issues Posted by: carbon-based
» simple solution, ban smoke! Posted by: bornxeyed
» here, here! Posted by: Tombo
» Same B.S., different day... Posted by: VickyinSD
» RE: Same B.S., different day... Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Same B.S., different day... Posted by: VickyinSD
» RE: Same B.S., different day... Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Other issues Posted by: parmentano
» Go for it Paul!!! Posted by: VickyinSD
» RE: Other issues Posted by: skydog
It's about
Posted by: justicenow on Mar 22, 2008 5:33 AM   
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It's about the person not the pot. If a person has the disease of addiction then they could potentially be addicted to butter beans. My ex has the trifecta of addictions-alcohol, pot and cigs. He hasn't been able to stop.I believe that it's the disease of addiction--- the substance itself could be anything.

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» RE: It's about Posted by: ZenQuixote
» It's really about Posted by: bornxeyed
People quit smoking cannabis all the time.
Posted by: colinmeister on Mar 22, 2008 5:55 AM   
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The evidence for this? Most pot smokers have jobs. To get a job in the USA these days one usually has to undergo a drug test. Failing a drug test results in not getting the job, so anyone who smokes pot will give it up for a while - at least until they have found another job. Since pot is detectable in a drug test for a month or more after quitting smoking in a habitual smoker, it is clear that pot is not addictive in the same way as nicotine, alcohol, or opiates. People just like to get high.

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Marijuana dependence is a real entity
Posted by: vitualis on Mar 22, 2008 6:31 AM   
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The term is perhaps unfortunately but there are clearly people who are clearly dependent on marijuana. The belief that this is not the case is just as erroneous as the belief that marijuana is addictive in the usual physiological sense of the word.

I have met many people who will use marijuana to the degree that it impairs their social functioning; unable to maintain work or study, or affecting their relationships. Most realise that marijuana is a problem for them but that insight rarely leads to a change in behaviour. There are usually underlying psychological issues as well but in most cases, the marijuana is definitely not helping. Most psychotropic agents, whether they are addictive or not, can lead to the same issues, e.g., opiates, alcohol, tranquilers or even sniffing solvents.

Regards.

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» hypocrisy is a real entity Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Marijuana dependence is a real entity Posted by: left_libertarian
addiction is a state of mind,
Posted by: dsmidiman on Mar 22, 2008 6:34 AM   
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Addiction is a state of mind and the object of addiction can be literally anything!!! Food, drugs, achohol, coffee, sex, work you name it. For every one person that is "addicted" to any one thing there are thousands who have no issues using/doing that same thing. It's that simple!!! As far as our government and it's bought and paid for media goes like always it's all about making money. A whole lot of people use pot so there is a whole lot of money to made fighting, incarcerating, rehabilitating etc. people who use pot. That's it in a nutshell....

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Issue of semantics
Posted by: givitaway on Mar 22, 2008 6:44 AM   
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Look, There is a difference between physical addiction and addiction. No, you don't get physical withdrawal from weed. Yes, you can get addicted to weed. You can get addicted to food (look down), shopping, video games, tv, etc.

Let's not pretend there is nothing wrong with smoking Ganj just because it isn't as severe as heroin. Can a lot of people smoke this stuff and not have it affect their life? Sure. Should we end the "war on drugs"? Hell yes, but don't try to con people into thinking there are no consequences for habitually smoking refer.

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» RE: Issue of semantics Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Issue of semantics Posted by: Digby C. Ceasar
» RE: Issue of semantics Posted by: bornxeyed
follow the money
Posted by: liberalibrarian on Mar 22, 2008 7:03 AM   
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Marijuana addiction. Are we so powerless in our own country and in the world that we can't even stop a stupid study setting up a stupid clinic for subsidy/rich money? I sometimes get so discouraged.
Sure MJ has a few consequences--it is smoking something. Sure it has a mild high...so does caffeine or those couple of beers or glasses of wine we have after work. The US treats its adults like babies confined to a playpen.
It is not addictive. And it has real medical value. I certainly hope that this plant is legalized in my lifetime--I might carry some hope with me for the future.
I agree with Tom Degan--it's 2008 for Weed's Sake!
Namaste

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The Truth
Posted by: fearn on Mar 22, 2008 7:45 AM   
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The majority of Americans don't know the truth about their wars, their food, their country, their oil consumption, their government or their history.
Why would pot be any different???

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The best bio mass for bio fuel is Hemp
Posted by: Marlena on Mar 22, 2008 8:09 AM   
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now get of the idea that hemp=marijuana....since hemp needs no fertilizers, grows anywhere, can rejuvenate a field, especially in 3-4 field crop rotation AND for every gallon used to make "hempahol" you get 12 gallons of it. Oh, and it can also be used as to make fabric, roofing, etc, etc. But it inst controlled by agri business of pharma...or big oil..Im not saying conspiracy, but when was the last time you heard anyone say "Hello?? Hemp does NOT = Marijuana?? Ban MJ, and you can then ban all hemp. Used to be that hemp was grown through out the Shenandoah valley in VA, the miners had a second source of income,and didnt have to depend on the mines....bye bye hemp culture!! And you can fine the same thing in other industries...

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» Your mention of conspiracy Posted by: Anon12
This is Complete BS
Posted by: corazon on Mar 22, 2008 8:20 AM   
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Its just another tactic to suck more money out of tax payers.
I've been smoking a little weed off and on for 25 years. Its NO different than having a good brandy or 25 year old scotch during the holidays. Its not addictive, its actually good for you. The THC kills cancerous cells in your body.
There are people that have addictive disorders. They feel the need to be addicted to something, whether its a non addictive drug like marijuana or a really seriously addictive drug like crack or heroin.
Its another avenue of Big Pharma to get us addicted and killed on THEIR drugs. If its synthetic is OK, if its natural its bad... go figure.

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rich
Posted by: cocopuffed on Mar 22, 2008 9:08 AM   
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pray for 1/20/09.

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» RE: rich Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
Oh, sweet jesus, where's the COFFEE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: sausage on Mar 22, 2008 10:08 AM   
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forgot to buy coffee yesterday....no coffee this morning...pounding headache...go to store to buy coffee...make coffee...drink...drink...drink!!!

aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh.......*

*(This is all true. It is now 12:07 PM CDT and I've just finished my second cup of coffee.)

The idea of marijuana being addictive is ridiculous.

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Blunts are an addiction problem
Posted by: LauraK on Mar 22, 2008 10:47 AM   
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The kids are wrapping their "tree" in cigar wrappers. They are addicted, but not to the pot. It's the nicotine in the cigars they are inhaling. That has to be terrible for their lungs, too. Even cigar smokers don't inhale cigars.

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Not a terribly addictive drug, I agree
Posted by: Laplandi on Mar 22, 2008 10:59 AM   
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But THC has really profound effects on short term memory. May be you don't get addicted b/c you can't remember your experience, eh? Thinking of writing a grant to investigate this issue.

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Been smoking both...
Posted by: VickyinSD on Mar 22, 2008 11:08 AM   
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for 35 yrs., actually starting with MJ, then cigarettes a year later.

I know for a fact that I can give up the MJ with no problem at all because I've done it several times. As for the cigarettes, I don't even want to try, as the stress alone would make nuts, and I don't need any more stress than I already have.

I'm a legal patient in the State of California, but live in 1 of 2 counties currently suing the state over the legality of voter approved Prop. 215 which, not surprisingly, is also the same county where the new 'Center for Cannabis Addiction' will be built... probably with the support of the county administration.

Unfortunately, as a result of the county's ignorance and predjudice, MMJ is not widely available here, other than underground sources, so I've been going without for awhile now.

Am I bouncing off the walls or having any physical withdrawl symptoms? HELL NO!!! The only thing making me freak-out at this point is all the political bullshit that's happening in DC and elsewhere that is screwing up our economy, creating hate worldwide for the people of this country, and driving gas prices through the roof!

I don't know what's in the water in DC, but maybe they should add a little THC instead!

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» RE: Been smoking both... Posted by: Lauren
Addiction and habit are seperate and distinct.
Posted by: radiomorning on Mar 22, 2008 11:35 AM   
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I agree with Rune, I have just gotten out of a prolonged period of herb usage, and I was starting to worry myself that I was addicted, because my habit was so regular, and so I decided to quit for at least a while, and there has been no urges, cravings, or physiological reaction of any kind.

I have been very successful and found it easy to quit; I haven't smoked it in ages. That is definitely more than I can say for when I quit smoking tobacco. I still feel cravings and withdrawal symptoms for cigarettes, and make the occasional stumble.

While its easy to develop a habit, this is because herb is so good, not because it has adddictive properties.

I would definitely argue in favour of legalization.

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steph01
Posted by: steph01 on Mar 22, 2008 1:08 PM   
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Sure it's bull-shit. As a recovering alcoholic I can testify that LEGAL alcohol is a much worse and very dangerous drug. Also there's far too many people in prison for this sort of thing. Blame it on our"democratic" governnment.

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» RE: steph01 Posted by: donl51
Lest we forget Soviet dissidents
Posted by: johnchase34 on Mar 22, 2008 1:19 PM   
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Soviet dissidents were often given the choice of the Gulag or a psychiatric hospital to treat their mental illness ("They must be crazy, else why would they resist us").

Pot smokers are our dissidents.

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marijuana is not physically addictive
Posted by: vasumurti on Mar 22, 2008 3:08 PM   
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A pamphlet entitled "10 Things Every Parent, Teenager and Teacher Should Know About Marijuana" produced by the Family Council on Drug Awareness tells us marijuana is not physically addictive. The 1980 Costa Rican study, the 1975 Jamaican study and the 1972 Nixon Blue Ribbon Report all concluded that marijuana use does not lead to physical dependency. The FBI reports that 65 to 75 percent of criminal violence is alcohol-related. On the other hand, Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger testified before Congress in 1948 that marijuana leads to nonviolence and pacifism.

In a message to Congress on August 2, 1977, President Jimmy Carter insisted: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."

Drug Enforcement Administration Law Judge Francis L. Young wrote on September 8, 1988: "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

Tobacco kills about 430,700 each year. Alcohol and alcohol-related diseases and injuries kill about 110,000 per year. Secondhand tobacco smoke kills about 50,000 every year. Aspirin and other anti-inflammatory drugs kill 7,600 each year. Cocaine kills about 500 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Heroin kills about 400 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Adverse reactions to prescription drugs total 32,000 per year, while marijuana kills no one.

A November 4, 2002 Time/CNN Poll found that eighty percent of those polled felt marijuana should be legal only for therapeutic purposes. 72 percent felt recreational users should get fines rather than jail time, which is essentially decriminalization. The complete legalization of marijuana was favored only by 34 percent of respondents, but this figure is twice as large as it was in 1986. Marijuana is safer than alcohol and tobacco, and our drug laws should reflect this reality.

According to a 2003 Zogby poll, two of every five Americans say “the government should treat marijuana the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and only make it illegal for children.”

Richard Posner, Chicago's chief judge of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and one of the nation's leading legal scholars, says marijuana use should be legalized as a way of reducing crime. Posner, a Reagan administration appointee once described by American Lawyer magazine as “the most brilliant judge in the country,” explained his views on marijuana in The Times Literary Supplement, a British publication, and in later interview:

“It is nonsense that we should be devoting so many law enforcement resources to marijuana," says Posner. "I am skeptical that a society that is so tolerant of alcohol and cigarettes should come down so hard on marijuana use and send people to prison for life without parole.”

Posner is the highest-ranking judge to publicly favor the repeal of marijuana laws. Several judges of the federal district court, a level lower than the appeals court, have made similar calls, including Robert Sweet of New York and James Paine of Florida, both Carter Administration appointees.

Posner and other federal judges have complained that sentencing guidelines force them to give unjustly severe prison sentences to relatively minor drug offenders. Says Posner: “Prison terms in America have become appallingly long, especially for conduct that, arguably, should not be criminal at all. Only decriminalization is a sure route to a lower crime rate. It is sad that it appears so far below the horizon of political feasibility.”

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YES YOU CAN
Posted by: caru on Mar 22, 2008 5:27 PM   
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hey for all you tobacco freaks out there -- you can do it, just keep trying. train your brain to live without. you can do it. the worst is i hear like heroin in the first threes: three days, three weeks, three years ... also, nicoholics there is such a thing called: nicotine anonymous. check it out, yes you can!

as far as cannabis. people dont die of it. so who cares? we'd all do better to pour our millions into real problems like poverty and hunger.

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Smoke gets in my throat
Posted by: GPFrank on Mar 22, 2008 6:54 PM   
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Any kind of smoke is irritating, cough,cough, cough, as I still did every winter, 20 years after my father did stop smoking.

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Important Things to Consider
Posted by: jennish on Mar 22, 2008 10:00 PM   
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Anyone who has looked up addiction will realize that the term is not used in the same way by everyone and the criteria for an addiction can be different. Addiction is most broadly used to refer to habitual, obsessive, or compulsive submission to something. Most commonly to use of a substance.

Saying that the idea of marijuana addiction is "b.s." is a poor way to generalize a line of thought. And it suggests little knowledge of addiction. Food can be addictive. Caffeine, gambling, shopping, and many other things that are legal, and not harmful in moderation can be addictive and detrimental in larger doses. It is important to distinguish between use and abuse. While I do not think a person should be denied the right to recreationally use marijuana, I also believe it can be addictive. Anyone who says they know or have known "hundreds" of pot smokers and says that none of them have experienced harmful effects or some kind of "addiction" to the drug is either very young, uninformed, or just plain lying. I have smoked plenty of weed and known plenty of weed-smokers. I have seen burnouts and people who do not have problems at work of in their social life and still smoke. I have seen it used as recreation, I have seen people stop without problems and never miss it. I have seen it overused as self-medication. I have seen a lot of people accept less-than-adequate performance in life or mere mediocrity of experience because they are constantly stoned. I have been in rehab with a self-professed marijuana addict. In the six-month period of treatment, he showed a lot of positive changes in behavior and attitude. He also did not find it easy to quit.

Just like alcohol, caffeine, or food, there is a complex set of factors that determines a person's physiological and psychological dependence (or lack thereof) to marijuana.

Just because no one has died from it does not make it entirely harmless. Likewise, just because people have died from something doesn't mean it should be prohibited.

As someone who has experienced several types of "addiction," I think it is important to consider the differences in everyone's physiological reaction to the drug and psychological experiences with the drug. Everyone is not addicted to the things I became addicted to, but I have struggled with overcoming these addictions and to trivialize my experience would be extremely demeaning. While marijuana was not a "major" obstacle for me, it can be addictive and harmful for some people. While it is hard to comprehensively discuss this without defining addiction and discussing the differences between substance use, abuse, and dependence, I believe that many people underestimate the negative effects that marijuana can have on an individual.

My least developed line of thought here is that in some ways, marijuana can be harder to overcome if it becomes an addiction. A common phrase in treatment is that you don't quit until you've hit your "rock bottom." If marijuana is something that doesn't cause death, loss of homes, families and friends, it it doesn't quickly bring you to the kinds of lows that other addictions do. I believe it could continue causing problems in many lives and still be used addictively. As many people know, when quitting any habit the process is often much longer than what is needed for the substance to leave the body (alcohol or cigarettes) and for obvious physical withdrawl to stop. That's why many addicts use the term "recovering" instead of "recovered" - it is a continual process and one that is never completely passed. and it can take a long time.

Oh, and to somebody above, you CAN'T stop an addictive behavior unless you WANT to - so you are not really saying anything there.

While marijuana is certainly not an addiction or a problem for everyone, it is certainly not harmless or without addictive potential.

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Pharmaceuticals
Posted by: sasquuatch55 on Mar 23, 2008 7:18 AM   
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I feel safer using weed,than manufactured legal Pharmaceuticals. There have been NO deaths from Marijuana, and you CAN'T overdose!

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Marijuana is Addictive-Ask...Me
Posted by: meldada on Mar 23, 2008 8:24 AM   
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Marijuana can be addictive to some. So can television, gambling, the internet, porn,alcohol, shopping, food, sex. You name it. I happened to be addicted to marijuana. I know that it can be a beneficial drug and it should be legalized but there are many amongst us who have become addicted. I go to MA meetings each week and hear the stories and tell my own. Marijuana is one powerful drug and in the types of strains that are found today can immobilize you. One of the symptoms that are common amongst marijuana addicts is lethargy and living in a self defined reality,self centerdness.Longtime everday users suffer from short term memory loss and lung problems. Middle aged smokers are at higher risk of heart disease. For those who are habitual users, scoring it, dealing it, worrying about when the stash is low becomes a way of life. Many amongst us are doctors and lawyers and functional members of society. For me, I wasn't when I was using it. I am much more capable now that I am clean of the stuff. I've lost weight and am sharper in mind and spirit. I am proud to be a clean father and role model for the children around me. And indeed, there is definately a detox process when coming off the weed. Headaches, irritability and cravings mark the path to sobriety. The emotional dependency, the high, is also tough to kick.

For those who are not habitual users, I envy you for marijuana is a wonderful recreational and medicinal substance. I am an addict and take it a day at a time and am grateful to be clean and sober. My life has improved tremendously without the use of marijuana.

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