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Bush Diplomacy: Predator Planes Are Conducting Assassinations by Air

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted March 17, 2008.


Attacks all over the planet by U.S. Predator planes suggest Bush thinks he has the "right" to kill civilians.

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Imagine, for a moment, that you live in a small town somewhere near the Southern California coast. You're going about your daily life, trying to scrape by in hard times, when the missile hits. It might have come from the Iranian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) -- its pilot at a base on the outskirts of Tehran -- that has had the village in its sights for the last six hours or from the Russian sub stationed just off the coast. In either case, it's devastating.

In Moscow and Tehran, officials announce that, in a joint action, they have launched the missile as part of a carefully coordinated "surgical" operation to take out a "known terrorist," a long-term danger to their national security. A Kremlin spokesman offers the following statement:

"As we have repeatedly said, we will continue to pursue terrorist activities and their operations wherever we may find them. We share common goals with respect to fighting terrorism. We will continue to seek out, identify, capture and, if necessary, kill terrorists where they plan their activities, carry out their operations or seek safe harbor."

A family in a ramshackle house just down the street from you -- he's a carpenter; she works at the local Dairy Queen -- are killed along with their pets. Their son is seriously wounded, their home blown to smithereens. Neighbors passing by as the missile hits are also wounded.

As it happens, there are no terrorists in the vicinity. Outraged, you organize your neighbors and march angrily in protest through the town, shouting anti-Russian, anti-Iranian slogans. But, of course, there is nothing you can really do. Iran and Russia are far away, their weaponry powerful, your arms nonexistent. The state of California is incapable of protecting you. This is, in fact, at least the fourth time in recent months that a "terrorist" has been declared "taken out" from the air or by a ship-based cruise missile, when only innocent Californians have died.

As news of the "collateral damage" from the botched operation dribbles out, the Russian and Iranian media pay next to no attention. There are no outraged editorials. Official spokesmen see no need to comment further. No one is held responsible and no promises are made in either Tehran or Moscow that similar assassination strikes won't be launched in the near future, based on "actionable intelligence," possibly even on the same town. In fact, the next day, seeing UAVs once again soaring overhead, you load your pick-up and prepare to flee.

Swatting Flies in Somalia

Philip K. Dick meet George W. Bush. When it comes to such a thing happening in the United States, we are, of course, at the wildest frontiers of science fiction. The U.S. is a sovereign nation. We guard our air space and coastal waters jealously. Any country violating them for purposes of aggressive action, no less by launching a missile against an American town, would be committing an act of war and would certainly be treated accordingly.

If, somehow, such an event did occur, it would be denounced in Washington and on editorial pages across the country as a shocking contravention of international legal conventions and a crime of war unless, of course, we did it in a country where sovereignty has been declared meaningless.

In fact, an almost exact replica of the above fictional incident -- at least the fourth of its kind in recent months -- did indeed take place at the beginning of March in the embattled failed state of Somalia. (For that country's most recent abysmal collapse, the Bush administration, via an invasion by Ethiopian proxy forces, can take significant credit.) One or two houses in Dobley, a Somali town, were hit, possibly by two submarine-launched Tomahawk Cruise missiles in what a U.S. official termed "a deliberate strike against a suspected bed-down of known terrorists."

The missiles were evidently meant for Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, an al-Qaedan suspect in the bloody bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998. He was, however, not in Dobley, despite the "actionable intelligence" on hand. Accounts of the dead and wounded in the town vary. One report claimed only wounded Somalis (and two dead cows); most spoke of anywhere from four to ten dead civilians. Local district Commissioner Ali Nur Ali Dherre told CNN that three women and three children had been killed and another 20 people wounded. While a "U.S. military official said the United States is still collecting post-strike information and is not yet able to confirm any casualties. He described [the] strike as 'very deliberate' and said forces tried to use caution to avoid hitting civilians."


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Tom Engelhardt, editor of Tomdispatch.com, is co-founder of the American Empire Project and author of The End of Victory Culture.

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 17, 2008 2:04 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Bush administration: Try 'em & Fry 'em

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» RE: Terrorist Posted by: peacefullaim
» Executive Order 12333 Posted by: Artkansas
» RE: xecutive Order 12333 Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: xecutive Order 12333 Posted by: Doubtom
» Ahm proud to be a MURIKIN. Posted by: Artkansas
» COLLATERAL DAMAGE Posted by: Turiye
» RE: COLLATERAL DAMAGE Posted by: donl51
» RE: Terrorist Posted by: donl51
Given time.......
Posted by: Smiggsy on Mar 17, 2008 2:37 AM   
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Eventually somewhere, someone else will fall victim to an unprovoked sovereign attack on USA home soil. What's the probability that it won't be by a terrorist group but another sovereign nation. One can't keep the peace forever using indiscriminate force (of the like described in the above essay) without eventual consequences.

And the innocent US citizens, not at fault or responsible for their own gov't military's aggression will also ask 'why us?', just like the WTC attacks....so the more things change the more they stay the same.

Superpower status does nothing for global protection if one looks at history. Alas history will repeat itself again, and again and again. Whats that saying...eventually those who live via the sword (or drone missile craft) tend to die by the sword (or drone missile craft).

What will happen when these other countries obtain the ability to use drone attack technology? Death by remote control for everyone. This type of global future should be grave concern to everybody.

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» You have a point ... Posted by: harryf200
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» RE: Given time....... Posted by: fringedweller
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» RE: Given time....... Posted by: donl51
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 17, 2008 3:29 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Please, let me be as clear as I possibly can:

The United States of America needs to regain its standing among the international community of nations. That's never going to happen if George W. Bush is not sent to federal prison for the rest of his life for his crimes against humanity.

America's ultimate salvation depends apon nothing less. If the First Fool and the tidal waive of corruption that comprises this disgusting administration are not ultimately punished for the genocide they have inflicted against the men, women and little children of Iraq, we will never be forgiven. Nor will we ever forgive ourselves.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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The worm WILL turn . . .
Posted by: pete ess on Mar 17, 2008 3:42 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As one who loved the USA and spent a year, two months and one month living there from the 70's to the 90's, I can tell you that MOST of the rest of the world wants revenge against you some time.
Precisely BECAUSE we once so admired and emulated you, we want this disgusting, despicable behaviour avenged.
The day WILL arrive when the USA slips to no. 2 then no. 3 biggest economic power. And lower.
And the day WILL arrive when you are no longer the military might you believe you now are (although already we know you can't harm us: You couldn't even bring to its knees one of the dirt-poorest countries in the world with NO armaments to speak of!).
Good Americans, stand up and speak out! Why do you let the very worst elements in your country dominate you?

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» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: littlemanintheboat
» RE: Thankyou, Boydranchitos Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: Thankyou, Boydranchitos Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: peacefullaim
» That's horrible... Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: beautifulady2003
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: The worm WILL turn . . . Posted by: carbon-based
» Oh, C'mon! Posted by: Artkansas
» Here's What We're Dealing With... Posted by: badkitty68
Liberal logic
Posted by: ot on Mar 17, 2008 3:49 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Liberals pride themselves on their logic and are always frustrated when others do not see the world with the same "rational clarity" as they do. Yet the liberal will never miss an opportunity to deliver an accusation of racism. But rest assured that the use of emotionally charged buzzwords are a tactic of last resort when the argument otherwise lacks any substance. It follows how revealing it is of the typical liberal argument that such tactics of last resort are typically the default.

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» RE: Liberal logic Posted by: wilty
» That was my thought too. Posted by: PJAW
» RE:"Dime a post" trolls...... Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: "Dime a post" trolls...... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Liberal logic Posted by: peacefullaim
» How about a red herring? Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Liberal logic Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: Liberal logic Posted by: tornadorider2002
» RE: Liberal logic Posted by: peacefullaim
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SOUP
Posted by: KAEL on Mar 17, 2008 5:09 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is sad that the US has to carry out these missions on our own - and that some are mistaken; good people die. But to the nut who said the whole world wants to attack us, we can default to the words of the nut Bush - that was true on 9/10 - what was the excuse then? Most Americans hate being #1; being expected to care for the military needs of those who would rather eat brie than raise an army. It would be so easy to say about Somalians and others - let them eat lead - the lead of the despots that rule them.

I am looking forward to China becoming the #1 economic and military power in the world. All Americans will need to take care of is ourselves (and some reluctant Canadians). And the world can figure out how to get out of a world run by the Chinese. Think satellite images of their tyranny jammed - bye, bye Alternet - and your parents for dinner - bye, bye food. Time to wake up and smell the coffee kids. These are the best of post 9/11 times.

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» Do you have Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SWILL Posted by: GrannyBgood
» ridiculous. Posted by: o
» Nap time! Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SOUP Posted by: Artkansas
Bad Example
Posted by: green1 on Mar 17, 2008 5:30 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The hypothetical situation given at the beginning of this article is poorly chosen. The USA is threatening WAR against Iran. IRAN poses NO THREAT to the USA. To use an Iranian attack on US soil as a hypothetical situation at this time is in poor judgement, insinuates Iran is capable of striking the US, and inflames tensions between the US and Iran. This hypothetical situation serves as a subliminal message to readers that I interpret as being a call to attack Iran, before they attack us. The author should have named a hypothetical country. This is a shameful attempt to smear Iran in the minds of Americans.

These "decapitation strikes" are currently being carried out by the USA. They should be considered CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, and outlawed.

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» RE: I Agree Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: I Agree and I Do Not Posted by: Turiye
and then...one day
Posted by: Philor on Mar 17, 2008 5:32 AM   
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And then one day, maybe in Germany, France, England, Morocco, an American tourist will be kidnapped and a few hours later she'll be in a very graphic video clip all over the net, with somebody holding her head about her decapitated body. Do you really believe that extremist Muslim will keep making a difference between US citizens and various US administrations? Bush is a criminal killing civilians? O f course he is. How many Iraqi kids Clinton killed through sanctions and bombings? Remember the bombing of the El Shifa pharmeceutical plant in Sudan?

How dare you travel abroad and think you're entitled to be safe
Who's going to be the first one to be put in that dreadful video online, a business man? a tourist, a student?

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» RE: ...and your point is..??? Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: ...and your point is..??? Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: and then...one day Posted by: beautifulady2003
» Why can't conservatives think? Posted by: leafsong1
Nothing New
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Mar 17, 2008 5:59 AM   
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The Israelis have been pulling this kind of crap for years. So-called "surgical strikes" that either may or may not take out the intended target, but almost always kill innocent bystanders, including children and old people. It's a depersonalized form of terrorism; instead of a suicide bomber, an unmanned missile does the job.

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» RE: Nothing New Posted by: donl51
Umm...hello... we ARE at war....
Posted by: rickiey on Mar 17, 2008 6:36 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wake up people. We are at war here. In a war, people die. Thats how war works. During a war, when you think you can do significant damage to the enemy, you take the shot.

Do we intentionally target civilians? No, we don't. Do atrocities like this happen in EVERY war? Yes, they do.

The only way to stop this from continuing is to END THE WAR.

Calling for Bush's head isn't going to help. Calling for his impeachment isn't going to help.

ONLY ENDING THE WAR WILL END THESE ATROCITIES!!

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» RICKIEY IS RIGHT, WE ARE AT WAR Posted by: democracynowiniraq
» RE: ICKIEY IS RIGHT, WE ARE AT WAR Posted by: newtype_alpha
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» America loves a war... Posted by: newtype_alpha
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Caesar77
Posted by: Caesar77 on Mar 17, 2008 6:48 AM   
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The Coward-in-Chief in the White House, and his immoral war, is always willing to fight to the last drop of everyone else's blood.
I am ashamed of America and these are words I never thought I'd ever say.
What the hell happened. ?

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humpty dumtey
Posted by: wittler youth on Mar 17, 2008 7:23 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
yea it aint gonna take 20 years..the old egge man will just tip over off the wall and break and not a tear will be shed world wide..but be ware..hes not just playing with toy planes with some little rockets...he made two 110 story bildings dissaper in the u.s...if that wasnet a hair razing wake up call to the world to our idiot savant...hey its the end of the world..git used to it..my feelings and a gerbal are about the same in this last gasp global snacth-fest..

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Assassinations-From-Afar
Posted by: QQOblivion on Mar 17, 2008 8:35 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I first became aware that these assassinations-from-afar could go wrong (as if anyone ever tried to get them right in the first place) when a "tall man" and a group that was walking with him were killed in Afghanistan.
You see, the military thought, hey, if the man is tall he MUST be Bin Laden.
Turns out, surprise surprise, the man was an innocent civilian.

I haven't heard much in the media about the other assassinations gone wrong. That doesn't surprise me, though.
How easy it is to kill an entire innocent family if you don't have to look them in the eyes before you slaughter them.
And, yes, I agree that it is inevitable that someday soon some innocent person(s) in the US will be the target of a foreign or American drone.
But that is what the US has made acceptable. Kidnappings, torture, war for no real reason at all. And now remote assassination of innocents, all without remorse. Shame!

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» With all due respect..... Posted by: mjabele
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I just awoke
Posted by: willymack on Mar 17, 2008 8:59 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
From a hideous nightmare in which I dreamed a gang of thugs stole the 2000 "election", installed a homicidal moron as "president", against our wishes, and did it again in 2004. Since then these thugs have ruined everything that made our country such a great place to live in, laid waste to a helpless, harmless Mid Eastern country to steal its oil, destroyed three skyscrapers in New York at the cost of thousands of innocent lives initially, and hundreds more over time, shoved a phony war on terror down our throats, and robbed us blind every chance they got. Boy, I'm sure glad I woke up!

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Some Jackass Is Giving 1-Ratings To All Good Posts On This Topic
Posted by: QQOblivion on Mar 17, 2008 9:01 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Don't put too much stock in the ratings on this. I suspect someone who actually LIKES the remote intentional killing of innocent civilians is among us.

(I see this kind of crap from time to time on Alternet. My suggestion, if a post is rated a "1" (or 2 or 3), then don't necessarily discount it before reading it!)

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This will be hilarious,
Posted by: zyclop on Mar 17, 2008 10:10 AM   
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the day they will march in lockstep and sing about "the country of the free".

But only for me and a handful of others.

Everybody else will take this very serious.
Because the people of this country have been brainwashed beyond the point of return already.

And the reason why no one notices:
It is not done the "George Orwell 1984" way; it is done the "Aldous Huxley Brave New World" way.
No force used you see, only repeating over public media channels until it sinks to the "Pawlov dog" level.

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Damn scary article,
Posted by: kentigereyes@yahoo.com on Mar 17, 2008 11:24 AM   
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on a lot of levels. Someone needs to read and explain it to the idiots that support the despicably evil "w"/DICKY regime. The troops need to be brought home from Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, the true "axis of evil"(george"johnWayne"bush, DICKY, DONNY, KARL, Condo, et.al.)needs to be put in a real prison, and the United States of Arrogance needs to get it's head out of it's ___!!!!!!!!!!! There is a tremendous amount of work needed to restore an iota of credibility to this country. I'm betting that it fails. I hope I'm wrong, Ken

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Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Mar 17, 2008 12:14 PM   
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Are the people gathering this actionable intelligence the same ones who gave us the Iraq WMD? Bush's administration is criminal. America is a rogue state and we deserve whatever fate has in store for us. We're arrogant, greedy and insensitive. Bush sends faceless missles to kill in our name and we do nothing to stop him. We are all just as guilty. There is a special place in hell for killers like Bush. This man and his Republican war mongers have finally done what they set out to do. They have turned our once great nation into another Nazi Germany. There is no doubt in my mind that he is Hitler reincarnated. We are the German people who looked the other way while over 6 million people were killed without remorse or thought. He has no humanity in him so it should be expected that he would do these things but where is the humanity in the rest of the country that we can allow this man and his cartel of murdering thugs to kill indiscriminately in our names and then sit down to a nice family dinner with our children. I'm truly ashamed of my country and the man who claims to be a Christian. We invaded two sovereign countries without a second thought. War crimes are committed daily by his administration and by him personally by giving the orders. We should have had serious second thoughts when before he was appointed to the White House by an illegal move of the Supreme Court, he was asked for his definition of a soverein country and he couldn't answer. The man has been bad for this country and bad for the world. How many foreign bases are there in our country? Exactly and how many do we have in other sovereign countries over 133 and counting. He is a disgrace and should be sent to the Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity. We need to get our collective humanity back if we ever want to be looked at with respect by the world again. They hate us with good reason. They hate us because of Bush.

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» And your point is what? Posted by: democracynowiniraq
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Murder is Patriotic
Posted by: BeyondBeliefs on Mar 17, 2008 12:22 PM   
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The Pentagon has spoken.
Lying, invading, murdering and robbing is our patriotic and religious duty to ''god and country''... now onward all yee holy christian crusaders.

Remember to click heels when saying ''amen''.

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Killing othes designated 'terrorist' is okay.
Posted by: nightgaunt on Mar 17, 2008 12:33 PM   
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With the propoganda machine (CMSM) in full operation to 'support the troops' in war but not the aftermath(injuries,psychological traumas) can suffer on their own.
Remote control long distance assasinations are now commonplace (9/11/2001 carte blanche) and those are the only ones we know about. I am waiting for it to happen here when the economy goes bust and the GWOT is used on USA soil.

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I suppose you Lefties want to use MANNED vehicles instead??
Posted by: democracynowiniraq on Mar 17, 2008 1:05 PM   
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So you can lament more American "blood spilled" by the "evil" Bush?? Terrorists TARGET civilian populations. The U.S. Government does not, there's a difference there which most alternet.org users fail to understand that very simple concept.

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Mind blowing American ignorance...
Posted by: Obijuan on Mar 17, 2008 1:50 PM   
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I think most of us lefties think the whole concept of killing in general is wrong (death penalty, wars of aggression, war on terror). You shouldn't be killing these folks. You, and all the other sleepers like yourself, who still believe there are actually terrorists hellbent on killing Americans because they hate your freedom, really need to read much more than you watch TV...or speak.

Do you really believe that GWBush prays, and the answer is 'kill'? I thought he said Jesus was his favorite philosopher. Jezz are you guys gullible...and dumb.

Terrorism is a concept which is being successfully used to control you because you refuse to think for yourself.

There are no real terrorists out there except those that seek to cause real terror. That's GWBush and Co. They want everyone in the world, in the USA and abroad, to be afraid.

The 'terrorists' to which you refer are actually out to kill as a last resort, for revenge, to right a wrong (like the death of family), etc. They feel they have no recourse. That's the whole willing to die thing...are you willing to die for anything? For your bloodstained flag perhaps? Goodness knows there isn't much else left to fight for in the hollow shell that is the USA.

I would posit that most of the situations which generate these desperate acts are the likes of which you have not seen or imagined. And most Americans like yourself, if faced with one of them, might very well react the same way. Can you not see far enough in front of you to empathize with your fellow man?

Wait till the gov't starts turning on you and your fellow citizens. We'll all be over here cringing and laughing nervously...hoping beyond hope you will finally wake up before it's too late.

Gosh, I am so tired of American ignorance. So is the rest of the planet. Wake up and take responsibility for what your gov't does. Wake up and take back your nation.

obi

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» No, it cannot... Posted by: mjabele
As if...
Posted by: Earthling on Mar 17, 2008 1:53 PM   
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...an Iranian drone had enough fuel to make it from Iran to the USA, as if the radio connection to the drone had an equally far reach. The example was not a good example at all.

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A +
Posted by: spratling on Mar 17, 2008 1:55 PM   
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We have learned well from our Israeli dependents. Our state of the art weaponry makes short shrift of anyone or anything we choose. Who will ever really know the toll we have taken on civilian lives in Iraq and elsewhere.
Now insane McCain and his pal Joe Leiberman are beating the war drums for an Iran invasion. God forbid he's elected. When the smoke clears and we take our place among third world countries, we'll have ourselves to blame for what we've allowed the country to become.

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» RE: A + Posted by: EJW
Playing God Texas style..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Mar 17, 2008 2:11 PM   
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Bush likes playing God..

Texas style..

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Could Democratic Politicians Be Next?
Posted by: sofla100 on Mar 17, 2008 2:28 PM   
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Could Hillary, Obama or Pelosi be next for Bush? After all, if they are against the war, they meet the definition of being terrorists, don't they? Sounds far-fetched doesn't it?, then again, what is happening now sure sounded far-fetched just a few years ago.

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» RE: Could Democratic Politicians Be Next? Posted by: democracynowiniraq
» My Freedom is FIne Posted by: democracynowiniraq
Sick of all the Anti-US talk
Posted by: Barakis on Mar 17, 2008 5:21 PM   
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On this story.

Listen, yes things are messed up and our Government is doing alot of shady stuff and killing civilians however why are you all bashing Americans?

Just today the DNC (Democratic National Committee) said they will not hold a revote in Florida for the delegats.

Do you understand what that means? That means they are not going to allow the PUBLIC, yes us Americans, to vote for whom they want for president in Flori