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Hillary Clinton, Not So Good on Genocide

By Marc Cooper, Huffington Post. Posted March 8, 2008.


Obama adviser Samantha Power exposed the Clinton administration's indifference to genocide -- she got the boot for stating it on the campaign trail.

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The Barack Obama campaign is about to pay a very high price for the inopportune words of one of its most distinguished foreign policy advisors. The dazzlingly brilliant journalist, Pulitzer-prize winning author, and Harvard professor, Samantha Power, has been forced to resign from the campaign after she recklessly told a reporter that Hillary Clinton is a "monster."

In the pungently hypocritical game of American politics, this is just something outside the rules. Whether it's true, or not, matters little. Nor does it matter that the object of Power's derision has just finished spending millions on TV ads implying that Obama would be responsible for the countless deaths of millions of American children sleeping at 3 a.m. Tut, tut. Nothing monstrous about that.

Power was rightfully awarded the Pulitzer for her finely written and downright horrifying book A Problem From Hell which, in macabre detail, describes the calculated indifference of the Clinton administration when 800,000 Rwandans were being systematically butchered. The red phone rang and rang and rang again. I don't know where Hillary was then. But her husband and his entire experienced foreign policy team -- from the brass in the Pentagon to the congenitally feckless Secretary of State Warren Christopher -- just let it ring.

And as more than one researcher has amply documented the case, the bloody paralysis of the Clinton administration in the face of the Rwandan genocide owed not at all to a lack of information, but rather to a lack of will. A reviewer of Power's book for The New York Times, perhaps summed it up best, saying that the picture of Clinton that emerges from this reading is that of an "amoral narcissist."

Former Canadian General Romeo Dallaire, who commanded the UN forces in Rwanda at the time of the genocide, tells us a similar story in his own memoir. General Dallaire recounts how, at the height of the Rwandan holocaust, he got a phone call from a Clinton administration staffer who wanted to know how many Rwandans had already died, how many were refugees and how many were internally displaced. Writes Dallaire: "He told me that his estimates indicated that it would take the deaths of 85,000 Rwandans to justify the risking of the life of one American soldier." Eventually, ten times that many would die. And our response? A handful of years later, at a photo-op stopover in Kigali airport, Bill Clinton bit his lip and said he was sorry.

Therein resides the richest and saddest irony of all. Samantha Power has actually lived the sort of life that Hillary Clinton's campaign staff has, for public consumption, invented for its candidate. Though not quite 40 years old, Power has spent no time on any Wal-Mart boards but has rather dedicated her entire adult life rather tirelessly to championing humanitarian causes. She has spoken up when others were silent. She took great personal risks during the Balkan wars to witness and record and denounce the carnage (She reported that Bill Clinton intervened against the Serbs only when he felt he was losing personal credibility as a result of his inaction. "I'm getting creamed," Power quoted the then-President saying as he fretted over global consternation over his own hesitation to act).

We gave Power the Pulitzer for exposing the, well, monstrous indifference of the Clinton administration as it stared unblinkingly and immobile into the face of massive horror. But we give her a kick in the backside and throw her out the door when she has the temerity to publicly restate all that in one impolite word. Monstrous, indeed.

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not to mention Iraq
Posted by: topbrick on Mar 8, 2008 12:43 AM   
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Anyone who voted for the illegal invasion of Iraq, the continual funding of the occupation, and the recent efforts to demonize the Iranian national guard as a pretext for yet another invasion IS a monster. There are many of them. They are war criminals. Why are any democrats supporting this woman? Thank you to Ms Power for stating the truth. What a pity Obama doesn't have the cajones to stand by her.

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» Stop Dehumanization Posted by: karlkroger
» not to mention FISA Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» RE: Monday Quarterbacks! Posted by: Andie927
» RE: Monday Quarterbacks! Posted by: no1kstate
» RE: Samantha Power for President Posted by: edgar_michel
Political Cowardice ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 8, 2008 1:00 AM   
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Obama should have kept Power on board. A simple apology would have been just fine.

Where's Obama's backbone ?

If Clinton wanted to make it an issue then bring it on and bring up her real record like taking on Madeline Albright who stood by while 500,000 Iraqi children died because of Clinton's sanctions and then matter of factly said it was worth the price.

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» RE: Political Cowardice ... Posted by: douglashoyt
» RE: Political Cowardice ... Posted by: braxxian1
WOW
Posted by: yolo on Mar 8, 2008 1:24 AM   
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I find it kinda funny. We should have been in Rawanda. Even though the UN was there. We should have been in Bosnia,Kosova..etc..We should not have been in Afghanistan or Iraq where the same thing was happening?! Oh yeah that's right it was the Clintons fault that the sanctions supposedly killed children. Damn I really wanted to respond to this but now I am so confused I think I will just have a beer.

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» RE: WOW Posted by: mike_burns
» RE: WOW Posted by: dipconsult
» RE: WOW Posted by: Monmon
cooper as hawk
Posted by: stepp on Mar 8, 2008 3:00 AM   
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The fatuous Cooper is a typical unapologetic interventionist. As such he represents the same forces of imperialist war as those who support the occupation of Iraq. He also, no doubt supported the terror bombing of civilian Belgrade. He is part of the great corporate machinery of disinformation and should be taken about as seriously as daffy duck.

Power is also a rabid hawk when it comes to sending the Marines in to shoot up poor countries. I suggest a reading of Keith Harmon Snow (allthingspass.com) for a corrective on Africa, or Mick Collins at Cirqueminime blog. The destruction of Yugoslavia leads directly to Rwanda and the now drum beats are for troops in Darfur. Never mind the US is the cause of these problems; because for the porcine and visibly demented likes of Marc Cooper there is never a reason NOT to bomb people. The use of the term *genocide* has become short hand for these Euston Manifesto creeps; and its short hand for continuted american exceptionalism and domination.

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» Romeo D'allaire--->Canadian Hero Posted by: Prairie Waif
» The essential point..... Posted by: mjabele
» RE: cooper as hawk Posted by: chlamor
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 8, 2008 3:31 AM   
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Shillary or SmoovB

That’s it?


Government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Direct Democracy

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» RE: Terrorist Posted by: kenkruger
Rwanda and a hostile congress
Posted by: xvictor on Mar 8, 2008 4:49 AM   
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I can't hold it against Bill Clinton for his inactivity concerning the Rwanda issue. He had inherited the Somalian fiasco from his predecessor and did not want to revisit that ghost. He also had to deal with a hostile repugnican-controlled congress that did not want to get involved and whose main interest was checking to see if Bill Clinton's pant zipper was open.

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Samantha Power should NOT have been fired
Posted by: VByers on Mar 8, 2008 4:57 AM   
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Fired for speaking the truth? Obama's camp was wrong to fire Samantha Power. Her comments should force Hillary Rodham Clinton to explain her own involvement in Rwanda and her position on the issue now. HRC is the candidate with so much experience, right?

HRC failed to denounce and reject the comments Bob Johnson made about Barack Obama. She's also failed to demand John McCain denounce and reject John Hagee.

HRC can't have it both ways; either her experience placed her in a position to influence the USA's position on Rwanda or she is not really experienced. She and her husband could have prevented the massive genocide in Rwanda.

The truth is the light. Samantha Power should Not have been fired.

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Clinton/McPain More of the SAME~
Posted by: williameon on Mar 8, 2008 5:06 AM   
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Hillery
Dillory
Dock
Hillery ran out the Clock

She dresses Neat and Clean
Financed by an
Well Oiled
Machine

She got a lot of Baggage
Just open
Mrs.
Pandora’s Box
And
Watch?
Who flies out.

Dirty politics has returned

Can anyone discern?

The difference between
War
and
Media
Consolidation?

8 more years!
in
Hell.

More fall down
and
Stink!

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Hillary Clinton is a Monster
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 8, 2008 5:14 AM   
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If there is one thing that I've learned in all of these years, it is the fact that Hillary Clinton is utterly without shame. This can be detected in the kind of campaign she has waged and the type of people she has chosen to run it. As they did with the David Schuster Affair last month, they have decided to exploit an off-the-cuff remark and turn it into Mein Kamph. And again they have done so at the expence of someone's career. Thank heavens Samantha Powers is not a man. They might have lynched her otherwise.

Hillary Clinton and everyone around her should just grow the hell up. I am reminded of my very first day of school. To give you a little idea as to how long ago that was, President Kennedy was still in the White House. 'Nuff said? My teacher, Mrs. Peevey (God rest her soul) gave me the following bit of sage advise that I have taken with me to this very day. Here are her words to me:

"Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you."
Annabelle Peevey
September 1963

Damn! That old lady sure was hip! Then again, I can't help but imagine how she would have reacted had I brought the latest Lenny Bruce LP in for Show and Tell. That would have been interesting indeed!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Seventy-five Years Ago Today

AFTERTHOUGHT:

"YADDAH YADDAH YADDAH, WARDEN!!!"

No. That would not have gone down well at all.

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» Maribelle: Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Maribelle: *THANKS, TOM* Posted by: maribelle
» Kiki, you Nafka, you! Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Kiki, you Nafka, you! Posted by: mclemens
Anyone that votes...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Mar 8, 2008 6:26 AM   
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...for ANY of the three remaining candidates will have some of the blood mentioned in this article on their ballot.

A third party candidate is the only way to start over and get back to what this country at least thought it once represented...ie. its constitution...which is being shredded more every day.

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» RE: Three Cheers!! Posted by: Andie927
Control and Manipulation
Posted by: freshlemon on Mar 8, 2008 6:54 AM   
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The American ego is incredible!

We are NOT responsible for every thing that happens in the rest of the world, but we sure do try to control and manipulate events and cultures as if we are the zoo keepers of the world. The people of Rwanda, Darfur, Somalia, etc. are not classroom projects. America pokes and prods the problems that already exist in a country as if we are the almighty on a mission. Usually more problems are created by our interference.

Obama, Clinton, McCain, or whoever else is "the president" can't be held responsible for what the people of other countries do or don't do. Yes, we should be compassionate and give aid as much as we can, but the blame and resolution of the circumstances that we did not cause does not lie at the feet of our president.

The real monsters are in our minds, and sometimes we are the monsters.

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A Better Choice!
Posted by: Andie927 on Mar 8, 2008 7:49 AM   
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The Green Party, has a Great Party Platform!

It includes, Universal, non-profit single-payer healthcare, Instant Run-Off elections!
Non-involvement in foreign affairs for Corporate Interests! Check it out! They already have a foundation started, NO Corporate money, a Convention in July to pick a cnadidate, monthly meeting in most states, and 85 candidates running Nation wide!

Tired of choosing between a Corporate Republican & a Corporate Democrate: check out the GP web-site! go to: www.votesmart.org

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Intervention for Corporations
Posted by: Andie927 on Mar 8, 2008 8:02 AM   
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I'm 'really old' according to today's Obama-manicacs. One of the ones, according to them, who should just 'go away' and leave the Country to them!

I remember as a little girl (50 years ago), all the Aid to Africa, the Peace Corp. in Africa! Pleas for money for the 'starving' children! A dollar a month!

I also remember my Mom saying to me then: "Charity begins at home", we have starving people here! We have people dieing from lack of healthcare here!You can't help other people until your own house is in order!

I have no "proof" but I would guess-ta-met, that roughly 90% of our foreign invovlvement has nothing to do with 'Helping' anyone, except Corporate Interests!! Is that worth even one more Ameican Life??
remember: 'Black Hawk Down'!!! So Obama wants us to go to Africa NOW?? Are his supporters going to be the first to volunteer??

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» RE: YES, for 50 years Posted by: Andie927
» How Dare You? Posted by: westomoon
» RE: EXception, proves rule Posted by: Andie927
» RE: Intervention for Corporations Posted by: richholland
MAKES ME WONDER
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 8, 2008 8:41 AM   
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Is Obama taking the high road and trying to avoid a dirty campanign, or is he truly afraid of controversy and unwilling to get his hands dirty. There's big difference. We know he's a gentleman but we don't know how he handles the real dirt that goes with a campaign. He can't back away from everything. Mc Cain is no pushover. I get the feeling that Obama is not up for a serious fight. Thanks, ANNA

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» RE: MAKES ME WONDER Posted by: mnascimento
ZNet's Ed Herman on Samantha Power the "Genocide Inflater"...
Posted by: Torgo on Mar 8, 2008 8:58 AM   
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...and the "Cruise Missile Left"

Samantha Power And The Genocide Gambit

Genocide Inflation is the Real Human Rights Threat: Yugoslavia and Rwanda


In a Democracy Now debate with Jeremy Scahill (in which Scahill wipes the floor with her) she openly denies the bad faith and aggressive intent of the Rambouillet Ultimatum (which she deceptively calls "negotiations"). It's old news, but this diplomatic farce was a fig leaf for the planned aggression (the "supreme international crime", it must be remembered) against Yugoslavia.

Samantha Power v. Jeremy Scahill: A Debate on U.S. Actions in the Balkans, the Independence of Kosovo, the Iraq Sanctions and Humanitarian Intervention

Into the bargain, she employs a double standard when discussing Clinton's destructive sanctions against Iraq, opining "I don’t think the Clinton administration set out to deliberately destroy the Iraqi people as such."

The key weasel phrase is "as such", and if Power thought she could sneak it by undetected, she's insulting to my intelligence. I'm sure I'm not alone in recognizing the fallacy of conflating the means with the ends, so Alternet readers should be on guard and remember this when Power speaks, writes, or when her ideas are discussed.

Scahill did a great job focusing on mistakes and crimes of US policy, but I wish he had called Power more specifically on her obvious manipulation attempt. To his credit, he did immediately state the cleaning lady's opinion that "it was worth the price, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi victims of US policy."

No, "destruction of the Iraqi people as such" was not the goal, but Iraqi civilian suffering was an acceptable means to the end of US foreign policy goals. In Kosovo, Power surely knows that Albanians in Kosovo were not targeted for their ethnicity "as such", but for their support (real or merely alleged) for the KLA/UCK insurgents. Loyal NATO member Germany provided intelligence on this back in 1998-1999, as they concluded that there was no ethnic targeting "as such" and therefore no basis for providing asylum for Albanians "as such" from Kosovo.

INTERNAL DOCUMENTS FROM GERMANY'S FOREIGN OFFICE REGARDING PRE-BOMBARDMENT
GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO, Collected by International Association of Lawyers Against Nuclear Arms


Only Power knows why and how she became a useful idiot for the UCK/KLA. Now she says, "But I’m just trying to think about how to go forward in an impossible situation where Kosovo is also now sadly the playground for great powers, as it has been arguably for a very long time, rather than a place where people are actually focusing on the welfare of the people in peril."

Her guilt must be terrible, now that she has played her part in internationalizing a formerly local conflict. As for the "people in peril", there are many ways to engage peacefully with the world that don't involve the use of force, nor the use of other people's money (taken by force).

Nor the use of manipulative weasel words and guilt-mongering. As Spongebob says to Plankton, "Get out of my head! Leave my brain alone!"

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distrust all photo-ops
Posted by: luzmejor on Mar 8, 2008 9:08 AM   
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Hooray for Marc! He doesn't bury the story in tons of false caveats. Yes, Rwanda was a well-buried tale that was forcibly resurrected.

Stories like these tell the truth about our so-called moral nation.

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Nonsense.
Posted by: davescott on Mar 8, 2008 9:13 AM   
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Staff in presidential campaigns don't call the other candidates monsters. If she wants to say whatever she thinks, academia allows her to do that. Political campaign work doesnt. End of story.

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» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: Prairie Waif
» RE: Nonsense. Posted by: fg
Has Obama called for US troops in Darfur?
Posted by: davescott on Mar 8, 2008 9:17 AM   
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Maybe he has and I missed it. Maybe he's had the courage to say US troops should have gone stopped the 1990s holocaust in Africa. But the ugly fact is that the domestic politics of intervention are very difficult -- even when the moral necessity of acting is clear and imperative.

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If there ain't no money to be made the US won't go there, PERIOD???
Posted by: dsmidiman on Mar 8, 2008 9:26 AM   
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It is sad but true!!! Genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass murder and torture etc. etc. etc. has been present all over the world since the beginning of time. It is rediculous to think that any super power or the like has the ability to take care of all the world's issues.

Having said that the issue I have with this good ol US of A is that the ONLY time we become involved in other countries problem is when it is percieved that the end result will directly or indirectly benefit us somehow monetarily or stratigically. It makes us not good samaritans trying to do the right things for the right reasons rather it makes us simply monsters ready and willing to prey on anything and anyone that is vunerable enough and has the resources to benefit us somehow.

It makes no difference what political party is "driving the bus" the underlying reasons are always the same!!

We are living on a planet that is very quickly running out of natural resources such as fuel, drinking water food etc. When you put too many rats in one cage without enough food, water, room and such the rats eventually start fighting and killing in order to get what they need. It's called "survival of the fittest" and is by far the most prominant force in any living creature.

The problem with the US is that we (our gov't and it's citizens) have had it so good for so long that we are obsessed with not only maintaining our current glutney but have an insatiable need to have and get even MORE!!! The insane part of it all is that if we took the money and resources we spend trying to secure other countries treasures be that monitary or strategic treasures and invested that money right here in the US we could eliminate the need to search for those treasures anywhere else!! The money we are spending each and everyday in Iraq alone would do wonders for us in terms of eliminating poverty hunger and health care in this country. But the "powers to be" that are running and have been running this country for centuries are so driven by an insatiable desire for power control and world domination that they have completely lost site of rational thinking. And we the citizens are so frightened of loosing what we have that we allow anything our gov't and it's bought and paid for media shoves down our throats to become reality to us.

The world is on a path to disaster!! It is out of control!! The only way the human race is going to survive is if and when each and every human being on this planet realizes that we are going to have to find a way to make it work for EVERYONE.... EVERYWHERE.... or we will ALL parish sooner or later. Sadly I don't think this will ever happen....

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Marc Cooper
Posted by: mkdelta69 on Mar 8, 2008 11:27 AM   
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Engage your brain before you make an ass of yourself

If you wanted something done about genocide you would have supported Kucinich.

There wasn't another person in the democratic party that was more moral, ethical and believed in all the tenets of the democratic party than Dennis Kucinich.

Obama can't compare to Dennis Kucinich.

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» About hillary, Posted by: lisa lynn
hillary is with us.
Posted by: lisa lynn on Mar 8, 2008 11:36 AM   
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the people!!!!!!!!the ones that have been forgotten 7yrs, Obama THE++FLIP_FLOPPER

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» Sucker! Posted by: westomoon
U. S. -backed destabilization of Central Africa
Posted by: chlamor on Mar 8, 2008 11:39 AM   
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Forgotten Resource Wars

Rwanda and Uganda continue to benefit from high-level military arrangements with the United States. Entebbe, Uganda is a forward base for U.S. Air Force operations in Central Africa. According to the Global Policy watchdog, there are 11 U.S. servicepeople permanently stationed in Entebbe. Sources in Uganda and the DRC confirm that weapons move freely through Entebbe airport from U.S. interests. The BBC reported March 23, 2004 that U.S. General Charles Wald confirmed that the U.S. is directly involved in the fight against the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) in Uganda. "I have met with [Uganda's] President Museveni,' Wald reported on the BBC. "I have heard personally that he is very pleased with the support we are giving him .... Its not just moral support .... But many things need to be kept a bit more private."

In July 2004, members of the DRC military flew to Tampa, Florida to participate in an unfolding U.S. "anti-terrorism" military program called Golden Spear.

The Canadian mining firms Barrick Gold and Heritage Oil & Gas arrived with the Ugandan and Rwandan military during the "war of aggression" to exploit mining opportunities in the north. Barrick principals include former Canadian premier Brian Mulroney and former U.S. president George H.W. Bush. Heritage has secured contracts for the vast oil reserves of Semliki basin, beneath Lake Albert, on both the Congolese and Ugandan sides of the border. Heritage is reportedly tapping the Semliki petroleum reserves from the Ugandan side, where a huge pipeline to Mombasa, Kenya, worth billions of dollars, is now in the works.

According to a petroleum futures report (Africafront), Heritage Oil was poised to exploit the northern Lake Albert basin, southern Lake Albert basin, River Semliki basin, and Lake George and Lake Albert basin areas in partnership with the Zhongyuan Petroleum Exploration Bureau (ZPEB) of China. Heritage is currently exploiting petroleum in neighboring war-torn Congo-Brazzaville in partnership with ZPEB. Notably, ZPEB is the petroleum firm currently operating behind the genocide of indigenous Anuak people in southeastern Ethiopia (see the December 12, 2004 report by Genocide Watch: "Operation Sunny Mountain").

Ashanti Goldfields has reportedly secured a contract for the vast gold reserves at Mongwalu, north of Bunia. Ashanti has ties to South Africa and the British Crown and some sources in Bunia report that the Ashanti interest in nearby Mongwalu is guarded by Nepalese Gurkhas, possibly of the Gurkha Security Group based in Britain. The Clintonite multinational America Mineral Fields in May 2004 changed its name to Adastra Minerals and the corporation has multi-billion dollar copper and cobalt mining projects underway, in partnership with the Kabila government, in Katanga province. Elsewhere in DRC, major foreign mining and logging contracts are underway.

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just tired
Posted by: allyourbasearebelongtous on Mar 8, 2008 12:00 PM   
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i'm soooo tired of the hillary bashing and the obama praising. i'll just be glad when this is over and i can vote for one of them, either one at this point, for president. i 'm taking a vacation from one website, buzzflash, until after the convention and maybe after the election because i am soooo tired of the level of partisanship and shrillness amongst fellow democrats on that website and sadly i discovered it was way too easy to get pulled into the often kindergarten level of what passes for "discourse" there lately. is it possible for us to rise above "blank sucks" and "blank is the greatest candidate ever" and "omigod you are a horrible person or expletive deleted for supporting blank"???? or are we forever stuck on theplayground making what amount to catcalls and "you mama" style comments?

at this point, while i do still have a preference, i will vote for either one and really have a hard time believing either one of them is a vile monster or some sort of rockstar/saviour.

i reserve the right to no longer respond to any comments, on this or any website on which i post, that appear to me to be hostile, insulting, juvenile, or outrageously and excessively partisan about either candidate.

have a nice day.

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More Hypocrisy from the Obama Campaign
Posted by: jbowen43 on Mar 8, 2008 12:23 PM   
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Let's see how this goes. The Obamaniacs have spent the last several months deriding Mrs. Clinton's contributions to the Clinton Administration and now they want to call her a "Monster" for not stopping the genocide?
I thought the Obama campaign was about a "different" kind of politics. Maybe not.

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» hotel hollywood Posted by: stepp
» The Actual Comment . . . Posted by: westomoon
» THEY? Posted by: Prairie Waif
stupid on so many levels...
Posted by: aichbe on Mar 8, 2008 12:32 PM   
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I now regret voting for Obama in the primaries, as firing Samantha Powers shows both a lack of backbone and a lack of understanding of who is behind him. An apology would have been enough, though not necessary, since she spoke the truth. Not all of his supporters are black, or even care that he is, other than to show the world that the US has grown up enough to elect a non-white person. He's no new MLK, for sure, but the Clintons stood by while hundreds of thousands of people died in Yugoslavia, Rawanda, Iraq, and elsewhere. Powers has the insight to call it correctly, but Obama must still be afraid of the big, bad FOX and that they'll say unkind things about him. They will, anyway, especially now. He had a chance to separate himself from her, but this shows that he's just another SOS politician; same 'ol shit in a different package. Vote Nader, and win! Bottom line, Ms. Powers is far more qualified to be president than either of these Democrats.

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hotel hollywood
Posted by: stepp on Mar 8, 2008 12:36 PM   
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here is more....sorry, i didnt post this originally as a new comment.

Genocide Victims Over 1.7 Million - New Figures Show
>
> Rwanda News Agency/Agence Rwandaise d'Information (Kigali)
>
> 29 February 2008
> Posted to the web 29 February 2008
>
> Kigali
>
> During the 100-day killing frenzy in 1994, over 1,740,000 persons
> were massacred in horifying conditions as an indifferent
> international community stood by and watched, figures in a new book
> indicate.
>
> The figures are contained in the just published book 'HOTEL RWANDA
> OR THE TUTSI GENOCIDE AS SEEN BY HOLLYWOOD' by Senior Presidential
> Aide Dr. Alfred Ndahiro and Mr. Privat Rutazibwa - a reknowned
> local Researcher.
>
> For 14 years now, both local and international media, and numerous
> authors that have written on the Genocide, report victims as "about
> 800.000" or "over 500.000", based commonly on estimates by the
> United Nations.
>
> Mr. Rutazibwa told RNA on Friday that their findings are from a
> Rwanda Ministry of Local Government (MINALOC) research done in the
> year 2000 but has yet to be made public.
>
> "I was not part of the research team but considering the approach
> and diversity of the team that was used to collect information from
> across the country, I believe the MINALOC findings are more
> credible", said Rutazibwa.
>
> The Ministry of Local Government research findings were also at the
> centre of a workshop this week organised by a local think-tank the
> Institute of Research and Dialogue for Peace (IRDP). Delegates were
> of the view that the research should be made public to end the use
> of unfounded estimates being thrown around.
>
> The 103-page new book, in both french and English pokes at
> Hollywood acclaimed figure Rwandan Mr. Paul Rusesabagina, whose
> story was based on to shoot the film 'Hotel Rwanda' in South Africa
> by HBO Studios.
>
> The story goes that as the Genocide militias rampaged in Kigali
> beginning April 1994, Mr. Rusesabagina, as Manager of the up-scale
> Hotel des Mille Colline, invited and protected over 1200 people
> from death.
>
> After the film hit the box-office in 2000, it put the spotlight
> onto a man who had been a taxi driver in Belgium since he fled
> Rwanda. 'Hotel Rwanda' received numerous nominations of prestgious
> awards but got none. Mr. Rusesabagina is also a proud reciepient of
> top U.S. government honors.
>
> The film brought Mr. Rusesabagina fame and money that he has used
> to establish a foundation that he claims is supporting orphans and
> widows of the Genocide, a suggestion bitterly contested by the new
> book.
>
> In a recent interview with BBC Great Lakes Service, Mr.
> Rusesabagina himself could not name or even give any numbers of the
> beneficiaries from his foundation's support. The book suggests the
> huge sums of dollars from generous donors are instead channeled to
> fund rebel activities to topple the establishment in Kigali
>
> The international spotlight, according to some commentators has
> framed Mr. Rusesabagina to believe he can be a formidable political
> force back home. He is also believed to be behind PDR-IHUMURE group
> of exiled politicians.
>
> Researchers Dr. Alfred Ndahiro and Mr. Privat Rutazibwa say Mr.
> Rusesabagina has claimed false credit for saving people - most of
> who dispute he did anything to help them.

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Shades of Judith Miller
Posted by: mclemens on Mar 8, 2008 3:58 PM   
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So we have one more example of another elite information-manager, apologetic as ever for militarism and imperial ambition, getting public attention over a triviality. Were there not so much reason for despair, it would be facetious.

Professor Power's got it pretty easy, it seems to me: she isn't in the stir for "protecting her sources." Perhaps this incident of name-calling will win her a reputation as a freethinking academic firebrand, much as Miller's jail time was treated as though she were some latter-day Jeanne d'Arc of journalistic ethics.

In both cases, the tendentious misrepresentations of the subject's work and the real controversy of the policies being defended are obscured by this kind of hyped-up controversy.

Any truly participatory democratic system would see its citizenry vociferously involved questioning the issues which cling like blood-stiffened gauze to Prof. Power and Ms. Miller: policies supportive of capitalist exploitation; rationalization of military intervention; what comprises a truly humanitarian response to internecine conflicts in other sovereign states; what constitutes reasoned or fair reporting on politically charged or morally ambiguous issues.

Like a squid squirting out clouds of obscuring ink while it darts away from scrutiny, all the really germane political questions slip into the shadows again while mainstream political discourse provides cover by spewing out verbiage and phony controversy.

A few million more dead on some other hemisphere? Please! We have this horserace coming up in Pennsylvania . . . .

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A J Weishar
Posted by: AJWeishar on Mar 8, 2008 5:44 PM   
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Senator Clinton needs to explain this and her cluster bomb vote. For those who do not know, she voted against the eliminating the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas. The U.S. and Israel have left hundreds of thousands of unexploded bombs in heavily populated areas.

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Samantha Makes Big Mistake
Posted by: gabbyone on Mar 8, 2008 6:23 PM   
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Samantha while commenting on Clinton and Rawanda forgot to mention one thing Susan Rice
who also advises Obama and said the other day
he was not ready to pick up the red phone....During her time in the Clinton Administration she was on the National Security Council, as the senior person responsible for giving the President policy options on Africa, Rice reprised the role of Nero fiddling while Rome burned. She sat by while more than one million Rwandans were butchered in a bloody genocide. She let the phone ring and declined to offer any answer that would have saved lives.

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Samantha Makes Big Mistake Part 2
Posted by: gabbyone on Mar 8, 2008 6:41 PM   
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Not only was Obama's Susan Rice involved in
the Rawanda mess so was his big guy.....Tony Lake. Sounds like the pot keeps calling the kettle black.

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So good when someone speaks the truth
Posted by: nzo on Mar 8, 2008 10:31 PM   
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Good on you Samantha Power! All credit to you.

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MAESTRA
Posted by: fg on Mar 8, 2008 10:40 PM   
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I'm already sick of seeing Hill wave her arms around like the director of a symphony orchestra. She reminds me a little of Tammy Faye . . .

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What kind of character does it take
Posted by: fg on Mar 8, 2008 10:42 PM   
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to brush off one's hubby's repeated adulteries?

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Let's not demonize
Posted by: psman1975 on Mar 9, 2008 5:41 AM   
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As true as Powers' book is, when she calls someone a "monster" she is indulging in the same tactic that the entire Republican party uses to polarize, confuse, divide, and, ultimately, corrupt the political process. Bush used demonization to help take us to this war. It's a common tactic of the right and one that progressives should not use because it is wrong and it is self-defeating. Maybe it feels good, but it is wrong.

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Ambition vs ability
Posted by: pkricker on Mar 9, 2008 7:57 AM   
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I think that Clinton wants to be President because she wants to be president. I think that Obama wants to be President because a number of people are convinced that he can make a difference. I remember reading, just a year or so ago, that he didn't want to run until he had more of a track record. It's unfortunate that our political situation has gotten so bad that a reluctent man is our best hope, but that's the way it is. Obama is running because he might be able to make a difference, Clinton is running because, come hell of high water she wants to be President. I admit that's a step above Bush's "God wants me to be President", but in her case I don't think it's much of a step. Blind, selfish ambition is as much of a flaw in a woman as it is in a man.

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YES, for 50 years!
Posted by: Andie927 on Mar 9, 2008 8:31 AM   
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You give people a 'hand up', then you expect to see them doing something for themselves!

You also don't expect people worse off, to help people that don't need it! We give 'AID' to Isreal! They have National Healthcare! They give 'new' residence $10,000 each, we didn't do that for Hurricane Katrina Victims!

Why do we have bases all over Europe?? They can, and should be providing their own security! We spend more on our military then all other nations combine! WHY?? We need our National Guard, HERE! We need to improve our schoolds, infrastructure, and economy.

The RICHEST person in the world, is from Mexico! But we need to help them with their economy? Excuse me??? Let S.Americans come here and take jobs we need (no other country allows this), so S.Americans can send MILLIONS every month back, taking More money from our economy here?

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» RE: YES, for 50 years! Posted by: mountain19