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Is the World Making Progress on Fighting Global Warming?

By Tom Athanasiou, YES! Magazine. Posted March 26, 2008.


Climate negotiations in Bali moved the world just a bit back from the brink. But the next two years will be critical.

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The international climate negotiations that took place in Bali, Indonesia, in December brought us to a new and more difficult level in the climate game that we'll be playing for the rest of our lives. We knew going into Bali that if the old routine continued we'd be in trouble. The skeptics had been discredited; the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had delivered clear and unequivocal warnings; Al Gore and the IPCC had won the Nobel Prize.

So it's with great relief that I can say that although Bali wasn't the breakthrough that we need, the game has indeed changed. The critical next two years of negotiations have begun in earnest.The most important change was the new stance taken by the countries of the global South, the Group of 77, or G77. Their earlier focus had been on unity. But unity has allowed the G77's most retrograde members (the Saudis come to mind) to override the interests of weaker parties (like the Alliance of Small Island States). That's why it's so important that China, South Africa, and Brazil stepped forward from self-defeating unity to signal a new willingness to make binding commitments to limit emissions.

This was a real breakthrough, not least because the attached condition -- measurable, reportable, and verifiable assistance from the industrialized to the developing countries -- was widely understood as being both just and inevitable.

And that takes us to the second major development at Bali. The once radical idea that rich countries have responsibilities to the poor has now emerged as a near-consensus position. Today, to be serious, you have to admit that wealthy countries became wealthy by following a fossil-fuel intensive development path that led directly to today's climate crisis. And if we truly expect today's developing countries to take a different path, we'll have to provide the means by which those countries can leapfrog over fossil-fuel dependence and directly into an efficiency- and renewables-based economy.

There's a huge challenge here. Just as rich-world politics are finally acknowledging the need for sharp domestic emissions reductions, the international community is moving ahead to an even more difficult truth. The rich cannot simply act within their own borders. They are also responsible for financing parallel reductions and the large-scale efforts to adapt to now inevitable climate change impacts in the developing world. What does this mean in practice?

Technology transfer, for one thing, and this time it has to mean the best of the new technologies, not the worst of the old. And large-scale funding for adaptation and poverty alleviation, because without it there's little chance of finding the global solidarity that we'll need to manage the transition. And a whole lot more.


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Tom Athanasiou wrote this article as part of Stop Global Warming Cold, the Spring 2008 issue of YES! Magazine. Tom Athanasiou is the author of Divided Planet: The Ecology of Rich and Poor, and co-author (with Paul Baer) of Dead Heat: Global Justice and Global Warming. He is the executive director of EcoEquity and a core member of the Greenhouse Development Rights team; see www.ecoequity.org/GDRs.

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No, they don't have a right to tax us, but
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Mar 26, 2008 10:56 PM   
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Third world countries DO NOT have a right to tax first world
countries merely because we in the first world discovered Science
first. The "justice" argument is nonsense and not about justice.
Third worlders are not poorer than they would be if the first world
did not exist. They are only poor by comparison. Remember, it
has only been 10,000 years since stone age society first gave way
to the agrarian age in one spot. Third worlders are not poor, they
are too close to the stone age.

BUT: It is in our own interest to transfer clean energy technology
to India, China and Russia. That includes especially nuclear
technology, the only already available base load clean safe source
of electricity that can be used everywhere. 32 countries have
nuclear power plants. Only 9 have the bomb. The top 3
producers of CO2 all have nuclear power plants, coal fired power
plants and nuclear bombs. They are the USA, China and India.
Russia also has the bomb. Reducing CO2 production by 90% by
2050 requires drastic action in the USA, China and India. Russia
and some other former Soviet states still use very antiquated
nuclear technology. The antiquated nuclear power plants in the
former Soviet Union need to be updated to the latest American
standards.

ALL COAL FIRED POWER PLANTS MUST BE
CONVERTED TO NUCLEAR IMMEDIATELY TO AVOID
THE EXTINCTION OF US HUMANS. King Coal has to be
demoted to a commoner. Coal must be left in the earth. If you
own any coal stock, NOW is the time to dump it, regardless of
loss, because it will soon be worthless.
I have no financial connection to the nuclear power industry.

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The price of failure is extinction [of us]
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Mar 26, 2008 10:59 PM   
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Hydrogen Sulfide gas will Kill all people. Homo Sap will go
EXTINCT unless drastic action is taken.

October 2006 Scientific American

"EARTH SCIENCE
Impact from the Deep
Strangling heat and gases emanating from the earth and sea, not
asteroids, most likely caused several ancient mass extinctions.
Could the same killer-greenhouse conditions build once again?
By Peter D. Ward
downloaded from:
http://www.sciam.com/
article.cfm?articleID=
00037A5D-A938-150E-
A93883414B7F0000&
sc=I100322
....................Most of the article omitted......................
But with atmospheric carbon climbing at an annual rate of 2 ppm
and expected to accelerate to 3 ppm, levels could approach 900
ppm by the end of the next century, and conditions that bring
about the beginnings of ocean anoxia may be in place. How soon
after that could there be a new greenhouse extinction? That is
something our society should never find out."

Press Release
Pennsylvania State University
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, Nov. 3, 2003
downloaded from:
http://www.geosociety.org/meetings/2003/prPennStateKump.htm
"In the end-Permian, as the levels of atmospheric oxygen fell and
the levels of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide rose, the upper
levels of the oceans could have become rich in hydrogen sulfide
catastrophically. This would kill most of the oceanic plants and
animals. The hydrogen sulfide dispersing in the atmosphere would
kill most terrestrial life."

www.astrobio.net is a NASA web zine. See:

http://www.astrobio.net/
news/modules.php?op=
modload&name=News&
file=article&sid=672

http://www.astrobio.net/
news/modules.php?op=
modload&name=News&
file=article&sid=1535

http://www.astrobio.net/
news/article2509.html

http://astrobio.net/news/
modules.php?op=modload
&name=News&file=article
&sid=2429&mode=thread
&order=0&thold=0

These articles agree with the first 2. They all say 6 degrees C or
1000 parts per million CO2 is the extinction point.

The global warming is already 1.3 degree Farenheit. 11 degrees
Farenheit is about 6 degrees Celsius. The book "Six Degrees" by
Mark Lynas agrees. If the global warming is 6 degrees
centigrade, we humans go extinct. See:
http://www.marklynas.org/
2007/4/23/six-steps-to-hell-
summary-of-six-degrees-as-
published-in-the-guardian

"Under a Green Sky" by Peter D. Ward, Ph.D., 2007.
Paleontologist discusses mass extinctions of the past and the one
we are doing to ourselves.

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An energy alternative to learn about
Posted by: maczocalo on Mar 27, 2008 1:30 PM   
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It’s great to see robust discussion about how we can improve the environment and reduce greenhouse gases. Many government and industry leaders believe hydrogen is an important part of the energy mix that will not only improve our environment, but also reduce our dependency on oil. This week the NHA Annual Hydrogen Conference and Expo US, March 30 – April 3, is taking place in Sacramento, CA. Please visit hydrogenconference.org to learn more. If you live near or if you’re traveling to Sacramento, we invite you to join us and experience how hydrogen can have a positive impact on our lives. The latest hydrogen technologies from all over the world will be on display, and there will even be opportunities to drive hydrogen vehicles from several leading auto manufacturers – all this is free and open to the public on Monday, March 31 at the Sacramento Convention Center. Stay tuned for upcoming announcements from the Hydrogen Conference.

In addition, the Hydrogen Education Foundation has recently launched a website to help people better understand hydrogen as a fuel. Please visit www.h2andyou.org to improve your knowledge about hydrogen as an alternative fuel.

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maczocalo, H2 is an energy STORAGE alternative, not a source
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Mar 27, 2008 10:49 PM   
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And H2 is difficult to store, and leaky. ANY container is a
sponge, not a bottle for hydrogen because the H atom is the
smallest. When the H atom looses its electron to the wall
material, all that is left is a proton, the nucleus of the H atom.
The nucleus is orders of magnitude smaller than any atom and
therefore even more able to slip between bigger atoms and escape.
Storing H2 is also difficult because it either has to be liquefied at
very low temperatures, compressed at high pressure and large
volume, or adsorbed or absorbed into something else. The
something else tends to be heavy. H2 causes steel to become
brittle.

There are ways to convert H2 into a burnable liquid, for example
anhydrous ammonia [NH3] or hydrazine [N2H6]. Ammonia
smells bad. Hydrazine is unstable and explosive. Converting H2
into a hydrocarbon would re-introduce fossil fuel, namely coal,
which is what we are trying to get rid of.

maczocalo, do keep us up to date on the conference results. H2
could make energy portable again.

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