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Follow-Up to Mark Ames' NIU Article

By Judy Dufficy, AlterNet. Posted February 28, 2008.


Letter to the Editor: AlterNet is still missing the point about the NIU shootings article.

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Editor's note: AlterNet recognizes that Mark Ames' recent article on the NIU shootings angered many readers. We often publish views that aren't necessarily our own. However, we appreciate and respect our readers' comments, which we featured prominently in a compilation of reader responses: Making Sense of Murder: AlterNet Readers Discuss the NIU Shooting. We hope these efforts encourage robust debate and help balance the conversation.

While I thank you for posting readers' responses to Mark Ames' "controversial" article on the NIU shootings, I think that you missed the entire source of the outrage by presenting your follow-up article in the traditional MSM "he said-she said" type of "balanced" format.

Quite simply, Mr. Ames' underlying and ridiculous premise in his NIU article is that mass shootings occur only at what he believes are second-rate colleges or universities. He goes on to say that the shooter lived in Champaign-Urbana, where he currently was enrolled at the University of Illinois, but that he chose to instead to travel to DeKalb, Illinois to inflict his nightmare of horror and death on students attending a less desirable university in a less than desirable location.

Until several days ago, I would have thought that AlterNet would have been the LAST place or media forum to have published or posted any assertion as hurtful and heinous as what Mr. Ames is both suggesting and saying. Quite honestly, these are exactly the type of glib and inane remarks that i would expect to hear or read from Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, or any number of Fox News "reporters' or "anchors." Consequently, I believe that the sense of outrage concerning Mark Ames' writing stems from the fact that the editorial staff at AlterNet made the conscious decision to post (or print) Mr. Ames' heinous article -- from the "get-go!"

There is no doubt that there are numerous factors that contribute to such horrible tragedies as those that occurred at Northern Illinois University or Virginia Tech. Indeed, I strongly agree with your readers who cited the lack of both gun control and the availability of mental health assistance as being among the contributing factors. And I also agree that there is indeed a terrible sense of elitism or "entitlement" that underlies much of American society, which, as several AlterNet readers pointed out, was addressed by Mr. Ames in his article. Nevertheless -- and PERHAPS MOST IRONIC OF ALL -- it is Mr. Ames himself who suffers the greatest from this very sense of elitism when he makes the absurd assumption that mass shootings only occur at what he believes are second-tier places of education -- and not at a Harvard University or at the Berkeley campus that I understand he attended.

Again, I have come to depend on AlterNet as a wonderful source for information and writing that cannot be found anywhere else in the traditional mainstream media. However, concerning Mr. Ames' article on the NIU tragedy (which your headline described as occurring on a so-called "hopeless" campus), I hope that AlterNet's editorial staff deeply regrets EVER printing or posting Mr. Ames' horrible words.

For your information -- and perhaps you already know this -- Markos Moulitsas, Founder/Chief Editor of the blog The Daily Kos, often mentions in his writing that he is a graduate of Northern Illinois University. I do not believe that many people would "lump" Markos Moulitsas into the 'Dennis Hastert' category of alumni, which Mark Ames so disparagingly describes as epitomizing institutions like NIU.

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Settle down, Beavis...
Posted by: willie.horton on Feb 28, 2008 3:33 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This sucks. Change it!

The author wrote a well-reasoned article, and you went ballistic. What's really wrong here: he didn't blame the guns?

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Calm down.
Posted by: Kcanadensis on Feb 28, 2008 4:30 AM   
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It really seems like this person has taken the article out of context. The author of that other article was using the student's own words to determine that this campus may have been somewhat depressing. While I don't agree that that is the main reason, I have to respect someone who can actually look past "GUNS ARE BAD!". Because guns are not the problem here. The shootings are a symptom of a society where things have gone terribly wrong.

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Judy, you nailed it
Posted by: hagwind on Feb 28, 2008 5:01 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Mark Ames's article wandered all over the map. It did manage to hit some important points, but this may have been coincidence: if you cover that much territory, you're bound to find at least some fertile ground. For support he relied heavily on bilious online rants by disgruntled students without exploring their motives or credibility -- that's the kind of thing I expect from Fox and its friends, not from AlterNet.

I'm an editor by trade, and over the (many) years I've noticed that my editorial standards tend to relax when I agree with the author. I think that's what happened here: among AlterNet's editors, as among progressives and lefties in general, there's considerable ignorance about, and prejudice against (funny how often these things go together), people in small towns, rural areas, and small cities that aren't within a stone's throw of either coast. Mark Ames went to town in this one: Killing Spree Sparked by Unfriendly Students, Academic Mediocrity, and Smell of Pig Farms!

Gimme a break. Mark Ames did what the lazy commercial media are always doing: focusing on one extraordinary incident and trying to extrapolate general truths from it -- without doing the digging, piecing together, and reflecting that's required to understand the context of that extraordinary incident. The overwhelming majority of students and alumni/ae of small-city and small-town universities don't go on shooting sprees. Steven Kazmierczak's actions had more, much more, to do with Steven Kazmierczak than with NIU or its environs. If you want to explore societal causes, why not focus on what Kazmierczak had in common with the shooters and Virginia Tech and Columbine and other schools: they were all men. Odd how rarely male commentators seem to pick up on that.

P.S. I went looking for the original article, so I could reread the comment I posted there. Couldn't find it, either in the archive or by following the keyword links at the bottom of this story. Seems to me that it ought to be readily available for anyone who wants to check Judy Dufficy's points not just against the reader commentary article but against the Ames story that inspired it.

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» RE: Judy, you nailed it Posted by: redbridge
» RE: Judy, you nailed it Posted by: Sponge
However. . .
Posted by: kegbot1 on Feb 28, 2008 5:17 AM   
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Yes Ames is all that but his sin was trying to fit a complex incident into the paradigm outlined in his book. And that's where his argument got shot full of holes.

Yes, what he outlined may have been a contributing factor to one or more type mass shootings but one of many, many contributing factors, many of which we may never know, since we don't know what the shooter was thinking.

In my blog post on on Ames' post I made the point that if his premise was true than we should have had more shooters coming from my alma mater, Cleveland State University.

However, its not AlterNet's job (I believe) to necessarily decide which are and which are not credible theories on social disorders. We get a veritable smorgasbord of opinion on the left side and it is up to the readers to choose what credibility they assign to a particular author's viewpoint. That is, generally, the function of the comments section.

While I disagree with the author's premise, I want to be able to consider his opinion, draw some conclusions from it, and make up my own mind. I don't want AlterNet to start acting like the gatekeepers of the MSM.

Occasionally some writing may come outside our chosen paradigm and challenge our thinking. I see nothing wrong with that.

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» RE: However. . . Posted by: hagwind
Isn't this another case of the guy-went-off-his-meds?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 28, 2008 5:55 AM   
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That's what's so surprising about this story and most of the comments - the failure of the media to look into the many links between school shootings and the use of certain antidepressants.

The high rates of suicide and reckless behavior associated with these antidepressants indicates that they have some serious psychological side effects - and homicidal mania goes right along with that. Similar themes apply to many other school shootings, such as at Virgina Tech.

There need to be several changes in how pharmaceutical companies in the U.S. are treated. Even as the "War on Drugs" has been continually increased over the past decades, regulations on pharmaceutical industry behavior have been relaxed.

It's time to reverse that trend.

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» RE: Well, actually, Posted by: oregoncharles
Does no one believe in probability?
Posted by: rgl201 on Feb 28, 2008 9:18 AM   
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There is a simple explanation why shootings have not(yet?) occurred at universities like Harvard, Berkeley, or Northwestern (where I happen to teach). If we just assume that such shootings are random acts of violence -- and I mean random in the literal sense of the word -- then it is simply far less likely that they will take place in one of the top ten (or even a hundred) institutions on US News and World Report's or anyone else's list. Given the myriad institutions of higher learning in the US, it is just less likely that an unpredictable act of violence would occur at a "top tier" institution -- or in any SPECIFIC institution, whatever its presumed quality. This has nothing to do with elitism. I would love to believe that such a shooting could never happen at the university where I teach ... but frankly, I don't see why not.

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Missing the point?
Posted by: oregoncharles on Feb 28, 2008 12:40 PM   
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I didn't read Ames' article because it sounded pointless, but now it occurs to me:

Do "elite" universities in fact have much better student services and security? That would explain a lot. If people like these shooters don't often "slip through the cracks", there would be a lot fewer violent incidents.

Surely it's revealing that he travelled to his former school to go off the rails: sounds like a major grudge. He wasn't rational, of course, but we have to assume he thought they did something wrong.

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ninethreeone
Posted by: ninethreeone on Feb 28, 2008 3:05 PM   
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In addition to Ames' elitism (already mentioned), is another thing he insists on: NIU is in a flat place! There are cornfields! There are farms! It's neither California, the East Coast, or Moscow!

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What Nerve Did Ames Strike?
Posted by: anomal on Feb 28, 2008 5:34 PM   
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I've been to NIU. I vaguely remember Steven Kazmierczak for his noisy earphones, he held the door for me and seemed like a nice guy.

"it's guns! meds! Evil males!" The scripts say.

Ames went off the script and told the dangerous truth: America is miserable.

Steven studied criminal justice--torture! Steven saw the normally concealed: American prisons. The normally ignored: The hypocrisy of cliquey "innocent" girls, aspiring little Eichmanns, studying to perpetuate the American hell.

In a closed bleak America the only decent thing to do is to destroy it--or deny reality, get angry, he's evil! The meds! Anything but our society!

Ames punctured the "we good people" myth and the "they evil" myth. Creationists hate paleontologists, and Alternet readers hate dangerous honesty.

So let's eat organic, question gender stereotypes, ignore the anal-raping American prisons, ignore the misery and confinement of American society.

Let's tell more stories according to our favorite plot: "evil: males, drug companies, gun makers" implying "good=us, Good=Me."

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Yikes -- massive over reaction attack
Posted by: animalleaderisgreat on Feb 28, 2008 6:08 PM   
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There's every reason to call out AlterNet for its editorial sloppiness -- recall the recent article on video games and racism, which was not only riddled with factual errors but also conjectural to the point of resembling science fiction. Part of Ames' problem is his tone, which is generally known as "snark," and which he's not particularly good at (his former colleague Matt Taibbi is a little better at snark). Read some of Ames' work at the eXile and you'll see what I mean. But it seems this particular piece was supposed to be serious not snarky, and he's even worse at that. So credit bad editing for not evening the tone and thus stressing a lot of people out.

But it seems clear to me that if we point to environmental factors contributing to gangland killings and violence, and we do, and we often do so properly, then we might want to take a look at other settings and how they contribute to violent behavior as well. In addition, it should come as no surprise that a country that worships banality would have more events (both good and bad) occur in places that are banal -- places like shopping malls and state schools.

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Where is the fracking link?
Posted by: Beastly on Feb 28, 2008 6:30 PM   
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Once again, you submit a link about another article on your website, without including a link to that article. There is a link to a previous post about the article, but if you go there, yet again, there is no link to the original Ames article.

Do you people not understand how this internet thing works? Or are you so ashamed of Ames's piece that you can't bring yourself to link to it?

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No Apology
Posted by: TerryS on Feb 28, 2008 11:14 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Excellent letter by Judy Dufficy, especially
her point that "these are exactly the type of
glib and inane remarks that i would expect to
hear or read from Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin,
or any number of Fox News "reporters' or "anchors."

Course I would go further, Mr. Ames remarks were
more than "glib and inane" they were hate speech,
excusing murder as long as the victims are Midwestern
and mediocre (i.e. didn't go to top-tier schools).

Hmmm, wasn't that the criticism (very justified)
of Rush Limbaugh, that his hatred and contempt
for the federal government helped inspire Timothy
McVeigh to go on a mass killing spree.

I was disappointed that the above letter had not
been penned by a member of Alternet's editorial staff.
I suppose this is the closest we'll get to an
actual apology, but definitely better than nothing...

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Thanks judy
Posted by: Prairie Hawk on Feb 29, 2008 12:31 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Sometimes it's quite difficult to understand that we are in this boat together. I was never a great fan of NIU or
Dekalb or any of it - I Lived there 20 years ago for a short period of time while my mother was dying. Which actually means i didn't live there at all. What I realize now is the fact that people like my wonderful husband was able to prevail thanks to NIU. We all have our own perspectives. What was really horrifying to me about the Ames article was the lack of empathy towards life itself. That's also a defined mental illness. I did find this attitude to be quite disturbing. You know, these young people had the right to live. Obama was there, for the memorial service, on the floor, not making a speech or anything like that. Talk about empathy. Thank you Judy.

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Wussy editor's note
Posted by: JesseBC on Feb 29, 2008 3:29 PM   
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Congrats on getting past the guard so the Wizard would see you, Judy.

But that "Editor's note"? What a freakin' cop-out!

"We often publish views that aren't necessarily our own"?

In other words, they won't stand by Ames and defend their own writer.

But they won't actually admit they were wrong and apologize to DeKalb either.

When did they start making American editors so soft?

Quit being wusses! You're the editor! You're responsible for what you publish! Either defend your writer or back down and apologize.

None of this coy "maybe we agree; maybe we don't" crap.

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