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Homeland Security Won't Explain Why the Mexican Border Wall Bypasses the Rich and Connected

By Melissa del Bosque , Texas Observer. Posted February 19, 2008.


Texas resident Eloisa Tamez wants to know why her land is getting a border wall, while a nearby golf course and resort remain untouched.

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As the U.S. Department of Homeland Security marches down the Texas border serving condemnation lawsuits to frightened landowners, Brownsville resident Eloisa Tamez, 72, has one simple question. She would like to know why her land is being targeted for destruction by a border wall, while a nearby golf course and resort remain untouched.

Tamez, a nursing director at the University of Texas at Brownsville, is one of the last of the Spanish land grant heirs in Cameron County. Her ancestors once owned 12,000 acres. In the 1930s, the federal government took more than half of her inherited land, without paying a cent, to build flood levees.

Now Homeland Security wants to put an 18-foot steel and concrete wall through what remains.

While the border wall will go through her backyard and effectively destroy her home, it will stop at the edge of the River Bend Resort and golf course, a popular Winter Texan retreat two miles down the road. The wall starts up again on the other side of the resort.

"It has a golf course and all of the amenities," Tamez says. "There are no plans to build a wall there. If the wall is so important for security, then why are we skipping parts?"

Along the border, preliminary plans for fencing seem to target landowners of modest means and cities and public institutions such as the University of Texas at Brownsville, which rely on the federal government to pay their bills.

A visit to the River Bend Resort in late January reveals row after row of RVs and trailers with license plates from chilly northern U.S. states and Canadian provinces. At the edge of a lush, green golf course, a Winter Texan from Canada enjoys the mild, South Texas winter and the landscaped ponds, where white egrets pause to contemplate golf carts whizzing past. The woman, who declines to give her name, recounts that illegal immigrants had crossed the golf course once while she was teeing off. They were promptly detained by Border Patrol agents, she says, adding that agents often park their SUVs at the edge of the golf course.

River Bend Resort is owned by John Allburg, who incorporated the business in 1983 as River Bend Resort, Inc. Allburg refused to comment for this article. A scan of the Federal Election Commission and Texas Ethics Commission databases did not find any political contributions linked to Allburg.

Just 69 miles north, Daniel Garza, 76, faces a similar situation with a neighbor who has political connections that reach the White House. In the small town of Granjeno, population 313, Garza points to a field across the street where a segment of the proposed 18-foot high border wall would abruptly end after passing through his brick home and a small, yellow house he gave his son. "All that land over there is owned by the Hunts," he says, waving a hand toward the horizon. "The wall doesn't go there."

In this area everyone knows the Hunts. Dallas billionaire Ray L. Hunt and his relatives are one of the wealthiest oil and gas dynasties in the world. Hunt, a close friend of President George W. Bush, recently donated $35 million to Southern Methodist University to help build Bush's presidential library. In 2001, Bush made him a member of the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, where Hunt received a security clearance and access to classified intelligence.

Over the years, Hunt has transformed his 6,000-acre property, called the Sharyland Plantation, from acres of onions and vegetables into swathes of exclusive, gated communities where houses sell from $650,000 to $1 million and residents enjoy golf courses, elementary schools, and a sports park. The plantation contains an 1,800-acre business park and Sharyland Utilities, run by Hunt's son Hunter, which delivers electricity to plantation residents and Mexican factories.

The development's Web site touts its proximity to the international border and the new Anzalduas International Bridge now under construction, built on land Hunt donated. Hunt has also formed Hunt Mexico with a wealthy Mexican business partner to develop both sides of the border into a lucrative trade corridor the size of Manhattan.

Jeanne Phillips, a spokesperson for Hunt Consolidated Inc., says that since the company is private, it doesn't have to identify the Mexican partner. Phillips says, however, that no one from the company has been directly involved in siting the fence. "We, like other citizens in the Valley, have waited for the federal government to designate the location of the wall," she says.

Garza stands in front of his modest brick home, which he built for his retirement after 50 years as a migrant farmworker. For the past five months, he has stayed awake nights trying to find a way to stop the gears of bureaucracy from grinding over his home.

A February 8 announcement by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the agency would settle for building the fence atop the levee behind Garza's house instead of through it, which has given Garza some hope. Like Tamez, he wonders why his home and small town were targeted by Homeland Security in the first place.

"I don't see why they have to destroy my home, my land, and let the wall end there." He points across the street to Hunt's land. "How will that stop illegal immigration?"

Most border residents couldn't believe the fence would ever be built through their homes and communities. They expected it to run along the banks of the Rio Grande, not north of the flood levees -- in some cases like Tamez's, as far as a mile north of the river. So it came as a shock last summer when residents were approached by uniformed Border Patrol agents. They asked people to sign waivers allowing Homeland Security to survey their properties for construction of the wall. When they declined, Homeland Security filed condemnation suits.


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Given Who Is In Charge & That Texas Is The Locale
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 19, 2008 12:13 AM   
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Is anybody surprised?

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Because your not rich & weathly silly.........
Posted by: Smiggsy on Feb 19, 2008 12:54 AM   
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You don't get a giant Berlin Wall style fence if you're rich just like you don't get justice or decent health care if you're poor. I thought this article is about justice in the good ole USA.

You don't need to directly contribute to a political party to garner influence either. Political influence can be sought through other means; say through a big law firm or professional lobbier. There are all manners of ways to connect money to politicians in all levels of government, including wads of cash in brown paper bags.

Perhaps someone in federal political power or from Boeing owed the resort owner a return favour. Apart from stating the obvious its not what you know, its who know!

Besides the rich don't want to be fenced in, it might start to give them the impression that the government was up to no good.

Over the years working of behind the scenes in big property developments nothing surprises me anymore about the way developers & politicians hold hands in private & skip around in circles throwing cash in the air. Not that most of this type of activity is against the law or anything

but morals & ethics are so pas se...

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Because i like typo errors........
Posted by: Smiggsy on Feb 19, 2008 12:58 AM   
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Apart from stating the obvious typo:

its not what you know, its who you know!

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» Well that explains Posted by: warriornation
A fence-building company in Southern
Posted by: bitsfick on Feb 19, 2008 3:01 AM   
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California agrees to pay nearly $5 million in fines for hiring illegal immigrants. Two executives from the company may also serve jail time. The Golden State Fence Company's work includes some of the border fence between San Diego and Mexico.
In fact, U-S Attorney Carol Lam says as many as a third of the company's 750 workers may have been in the country illegally.
Golden State Fence built millions of dollars' worth of fencing around homes, offices, and military bases.

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Yep,
Posted by: rwday@cox.net on Feb 19, 2008 3:19 AM   
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We're becoming a "banana republic." We've already got the massive chasm between the rich and the rest of us. Just wait a bit and global warming will make the actual bananas possible.

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simple economics
Posted by: richholland on Feb 19, 2008 3:31 AM   
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money must go round,
in the past people were hungry and the rich built castles and dungeons and churches.

some countries spoil there money on health care and good salaries for their workeers.

The USA has the largest army of the world and the most jails per capita and the majority of the population believes still that this country is the best country to live in.

Of course it is not ment to stop poor mexicans, it is about controlling how many cheap workers are allowed to slip in.

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» RE: simple economics Posted by: fsuthai
» RE: simple economics Posted by: Lauren
It's simple really
Posted by: AndyF on Feb 19, 2008 4:37 AM   
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The wall bypasses some locations because the people responsible for those locations want to make it easy for their employees to get to work. :)

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» RE: It's simple really Posted by: aislinnluv
Just what you'd expect
Posted by: packofwolves on Feb 19, 2008 4:55 AM   
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This whole thing is so ridiculous it is frightening. Who's in charge? Sounds as if one large corporation after another is jumping in on the band wagon and robbing us all blind while giving away all these special interests. I'm telling you, until the powers that be, whoever they are, have to abide by the same rules and laws the rest of us must abide by, nothing will ever change. This country isn't anything more than a corrupt corporation that's running amuk. And soon they will start stealing from each other once we've given all we have to give. Hold on folks, we're in for a bumpy ride until the next revolution, which is probably not too far off.

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» RE: Just what you'd expect Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon
» RE: Just what you'd expect Posted by: Lauren
The Wall is Just an Easy Teaching Tool
Posted by: chicano2nd on Feb 19, 2008 5:04 AM   
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for the intellectually challenged among us to learn their lessons of the day. The "teachers" are the propagandist who get their marching orders from the Republican elites and the "students" are the idiots (low level grass root Republicans) who need someone or something else to blame for their individually experienced woes. Yep, its the brown hoards taking my job! FAUX said its true and by damn it must be true. The fence proves its true! Don't try to convince me 'cause now I don't believe a fricken word that you say otherwise. Good "learners!" Next lesson, Obama wants to swear on the Koran!

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» New Scapegoats Posted by: Cathyc
unfree
Posted by: losingmyliberties on Feb 19, 2008 5:05 AM   
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Forget the wall, they just need the border swat team. If men with mask and machine guns are ok to keep us inline,then then it should be just as fair to keep illegals out! This country needs to enforce the immigration laws as harshly as they do
in there selective substance war.

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» A major source of crime Posted by: chicano2nd
» RE: A major source of crime Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» RE: unfree Posted by: DigitalAztec
» RE: unfree Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: unfree Posted by: Lauren
» RE: unfree Posted by: Lauren
Thank You
Posted by: the islander on Feb 19, 2008 5:44 AM   
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Although your article about the wall makes me feel sick with the hopelessness of our situation, I want to thank you for bringing what is going on into the light.
This revelation of the bravado of those who conceived the obnoxious idea of a new 'Berlin wall' in the first place is so far 'off the wall' that it was beyond my imagination.

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» How about some Israeli wall building consultants? Posted by: Aposterioriperception
Dynamite and other explosives
Posted by: praedor on Feb 19, 2008 5:54 AM   
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Deal with walls just fine. Build shit on my land and I will blow it to shit and I don't give a shit if you are the shitty Fed government or not.

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» This is the Federal Government Speaking. Posted by: constitution, what constitution
Never Fear.
Posted by: itchyvet on Feb 19, 2008 6:00 AM   
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Never fear folks, pretty soon them walls will be used to keep the have's seperate from the have nots, that's why these closed communities are the rage right now, wait until you see the barbed wire going down and the machine guns at their gates, then you'll know for sure what's going down an it won't be cool for the have's not either.

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Fixed fortifications...
Posted by: wildbill on Feb 19, 2008 6:06 AM   
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...are monuments to man's stupidity. - Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.

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» RE: Fixed fortifications... Posted by: particle
» RE: Fixed fortifications... Posted by: bitsfick
Not a new Berlin Wall
Posted by: John Annis on Feb 19, 2008 6:07 AM   
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You don't have to go back almost 50 years into history to find a parallel: look at the wall that Israel has built and continues to build throughout the occupied territories. That wall seems so similar to the Texas experience that they could share the same designer and builder.

I don't know about US law, but it would seem difficult to me to establish a claim of eminent domain which is so far north of the actual border and also has significant gaps where people with money can live and play undisturbed.

All I can say is that I'm glad we got rid of our American colonies whilst we still could - the place has turned into a funny farm and it's very hard to make out who are the staff and who the patients.

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» RE: Not a new Berlin Wall Posted by: Lauren
Another deciderer legacy
Posted by: QCao009 on Feb 19, 2008 6:25 AM   
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May I suggest a name for the Wall ? Since we have the Reagan Airport and the Bush 1 Turnpike, can we name this the Bushed Wall ? It would be a reminder for future generations of what monumental stupidity looks like.

Untypically of most things Texas, it would be pea size since it will not be allowed to shade the view of golf courses and gated communities. God knows drug dealers and terrorists have allergies to all things green and will make sure they can cross and step over where there's a wall. Since Texans also have LBJ resttops, should we make sure to have Bushed potties just in case our vigilant border watchers need to relieve themselves. Remember to send Senator Craig and Congressman Foley an invitation for the inauguration of these historic landmarks. Oh, the perfect place for the Bushed Library is right against the Great Wall to house all the public documents which have been dedacted and whited out.

Banana Republic ? We have gone lower than that. The Deciderer will wake up this morning and claim he overthrew Castro !!!

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» Cheap labor=Slavery, there's no difference Posted by: Aposterioriperception
Tamez (land owner) on Lou Dobbs Show CNN Video
Posted by: DigitalAztec on Feb 19, 2008 6:29 AM   
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Waste, Corruption-The construction of the Border Fence.
Posted by: COACH0006 on Feb 19, 2008 6:33 AM   
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Question: Is there one person out there reading this article, that believes their tax dollars are being spent wisely, and without Corruption, political influence, and lack of accountability. People through all the Boeing selected Construction, Materials Companies, are getting rich off of Tax Dollars.

WHY not spend the 49 Billion dollars so far invested helping the Mexican Government build the infrastructure necessay to provide jobs for its' citizens. If there were jobs in Mexico, the United States would have no illegal Alien problem. I think that 49 Billion dollars would be well spent in this manner, and not in building a fence. I understand that the Border Patrol has been tasked with an impossile job, that of stopping or reducing the flow of Illegals across our borders. I also know and agree that we (United States) can not stand by and let untold numbers of Illegal Aliens flow at will across our border.

President Bush could change history forever, by making contact with the Mexican Government and setting up infrastructure along the United States and Mexico Border to provide jobs.

While we (The United States)help the people of Iraq rebuild their country on a daily basis, there is a similar need that is going unnoticed, unfullfilled right here in our back yard.

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Boeing building a border fence makes as much sense...
Posted by: sausage on Feb 19, 2008 6:41 AM   
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...as another aerospace-defense contractor, Lockheed-Martin getting multi-billion dollar contracts from the United States Postal Service to update and upgrade its automactic sorting machines.

This was never about "border security." It was always about fattening the stock portfolios and bank accounts of major investors in the aerospace-defense-security-military-industrial complex.

Certainly illegal immigration is something of a problem but building an 18 foot high fence isn't going to do a thing, expecially if there are gaping holes where wealthy white people squat on this side of the Rio Bravo del Norte. In a word this is a boondoggle of the first magnitude. The late Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire would have been handing out Golden Fleece Awards left and right on this one.

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US Economy
Posted by: Cybershaman on Feb 19, 2008 6:55 AM   
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What would the statistics of our economy REALLY look like without these enormous amounts of tax dollars being funneled into the bank accounts of the Republicon elite. It helps promote the illusion of prosperity!

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Civil disobedience
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Feb 19, 2008 7:33 AM   
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Stuff like this makes me want to break out the teachings of Gandhi and MLK, but with modifications to deal with modern government crowd control tactics. These types of targeted government actions against people who cant afford lawyers is terrible and prove the great economic segregation that is present in the USA. People need to get real organized to stop this type of government action against the less fortunate victims of economic segregation. It is the modern day back of the bus or separate drinking fountain. How many more are out there, but don’t have any help to keep their homesteads from being destroyed by the wall or the developers bulldozer? Did the author find the only citizens who were at serious risk of losing there homes? I read this article and it made me think of all the people who lose their homes in cities and rural areas across the USA because they are considered blighted and then redeveloped. So many of them. They get nothing and the developers get everything. It takes a lot different local, county, and state government officials working together to create these victims.

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votingvet
Posted by: votingvet on Feb 19, 2008 9:01 AM   
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Remember the good old days when the MSM would have been all over this story? This is the kind of story that used to win Pulitzers. Are there any journalists left in the MSM who even know what a Pulitzer is?

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» RE: votingvet Posted by: Lauren
So the border fence is a boondoggle? Do tell.
Posted by: Sojourner on Feb 19, 2008 9:03 AM   
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We don't have many good choices. It's either private contractors working to extract as much profit as they can, or it is government regulators delaying progress because that gives them job security.

But make no mistake about what is happening south of the border. Read "Planet of Slums." Yes, of course they want escape and will do almost anything to participate in this awful (according to the comments here) nation of ours.

If you know something I don't know along the lines of how an ever-growing population will have an easier and more prosperous life tomorrow than today, let me know. We won't need a wall if the good life is coming to Central and South America. But I'll believe that when I see it.

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bush's bizarro universe
Posted by: willymack on Feb 19, 2008 9:04 AM   
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The earth isn't really round; it's square like an ice cube.That's why people say "the four corners of the earth", right? Mexicans don't have brains like other people, and that's why it isn't necessary to fence off a posh country club on the border, while it's a necessity in adjacent areas. If the bushies want to enact legislation deadly to our democracy, they call it names like "Patriot Act", "Healthy Forests Initiative", "No Child Left Behind", "War on Terror", etc. In our Great Denier's, er, I mean Decider's estimation, these lofty names cleverly mask the true intensions of his evil regime. Unfortunately for us, too many people actually still BELIEVE his dirty lies or just don't CARE.

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Secure Our Borders, but not in my yard
Posted by: Southern Gal on Feb 19, 2008 9:22 AM   
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There are terrorists out there and there is need to secure our borders. Many congressmen and congresswomen probably voted for this fence with those thoughts in mind. It is reprehensible that this project has turned into a cash cow for corporations and a nasty joke on home and land owners along the border. I am in awe of the complete mess that this administration and Congress can make of efforts to supposedly make this country more safe.

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skyelav
Posted by: Skyelav on Feb 19, 2008 9:37 AM   
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As long as we continue our corn-fed, shopaholism, we get what we deserve. Time to wake up and do the revolution. This hoopla is to get rid of a certain number of illegals so when the recession hits, there will be jobs for everyone....Another Bush ploy to tinker with economics for his rich friends' personal gain. Hello. All this junk economics began with Reagan and thanks to Monika Lewinsky et al, Clinton didn't do much about it. Now we are stuck with this mess.

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You've got it all wrong
Posted by: JJohnson on Feb 19, 2008 9:46 AM   
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You've got it all wrong - They're protecting the poorest people by building the fence for them so they can live undisturbed by illegal hordes and ICE agents waving guns.

It's the rich people who will have their recreational activities disturbed by the gun-waving agents and running illegals - or is that "enhanced"? - maybe the "reality TV" mentality is in-play, and it's really a conspiracy to provide "free entertainment" like that the interviewee spoke of...?

Every good "fortress" needs a gap through which to bait the "enemy". I'm all for them using the golf-courses as their selected battlegrounds, and leaving the poorer people "protected" by the fence. Think of how the property values will flip within a few years of "funneling" all those illegals and gun-waving ICE-men through the "rich" part of town.

Think I'll buy me some low-end border property....

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It's the poor....stupid!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 19, 2008 9:56 AM   
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Fences don't attract the rich and powerful,they're designd to keep out the poor. No one in his right mind would try to cross at a golf course. There's far too many cops and you could screw up someone's drive off the eighth tee.
We are the Nazi's of the future. We put up walls where only the poor can run. The rest of the joint we have covered with Blackwater personell with shoot to kill orders. You don't have to try to cross anything,just looking 'jumpy' will get a few rounds lobbed your way. It win't be long and we'll have some country's President standing at our fence saying, "Heffe' Dickhead, Please tear don dis wall".
We have become our own worst enemies!! We gate ourselves off from the surrounding communities. Why? So we don't have to look at what uncontrolled capitalism gets us. So we don't have to think about the hungry,the poor, the homeless,the needy. So we can drive by pretending to answer the phone,check the nav computer,get a garvin do anything but see the truth. The truth that Reagan style politics don't work, The truth that Bush style politics is a bigger joke. We look away because we don't want to have any share in the misfortunes of others,but we do.
As we bulid another fence,put up another gate
or add another camrea to watch those poor savages. We have to accept the fact that we are
the ones responsible for those things which we think of a abhorant and it's onlt us that can change it.
Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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WELCOME TO FASCIST AMERICA!!
Posted by: Cherenkovrad on Feb 19, 2008 10:17 AM   
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Geez, if you don't get it by now, you ain't never gonna get it.

And if you do, it will probably come to you when you're gazing out from behind razor wire and DER HOMELAND SSECURITY guards in your spanking new internment camp.

Flush. It's going away! Wave bye-bye! See ya, Constitution. See ya, Bill of Rights. See ya, Habeas Corpus. Hello Fascist OVERLORDS!!

You get what you deserve, and lord almighty, the Amerkin Sheeple deserve soooooooo much.

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» RE: WELCOME TO FASCIST AMERICA!! Posted by: HillbillyBob
Fence will block the poor
Posted by: HillbillyBob on Feb 19, 2008 11:49 AM   
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and freelance smugglers and will let the well connecteds' undocumented immigrant and drug cartel employees come only through their personal border gates, therefore controlling the incoming profits for themselves.

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Those fences can keep them INSIDE too...
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 19, 2008 12:03 PM   
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I loved the quote from Patton. A little known detail from medieval times, fortresses attract attention and seiges. Toss up a wall, it's like saying, "come get me."

Rich people are stoopid. They'll find out come petrocollapse that a wall or fence built to keep the rest of us out, also keeps them trapped inside, in a nice localized space. Payback's a royal beeyatch, rich boy.

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Nabuddha
Posted by: Nabuddha on Feb 19, 2008 12:40 PM   
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Now people, calm down, no need to worry about the little fence to the south. You need to be worrying about how to cross over to the north before Canada builds a similar fence to keep US down here.

The fence is simply a way to keep "their" economy going once we have had so much of the Iraq occupation that we can't take it anymore and bring our families back together. How would "they" make money then? The bushies need to start another money-pit project to continue to line their pockets into the future of a more peaceful and democratic rule (Oh Mother Earth I hope that happens!!!-exasperated sigh). Once this project gets started it will be like all the other aspects of this HUGE MACHINE we call the federal government. Whose going to stop the wall then and eliminate all those jobs without worrying that they are committing political suicide?

The wall is a mistake! Do we not teach history anymore? History repeats itself, again and again, when we become complacent. We spent years tearing down the Berlin Wall and here we are allowing ourselves to become isolated.....

Write your representatives and congressmen, talk to your neighbors, post fliers, have coffee house meetings..... Do something American to bring America back!!! Peace and Love to everyone!!

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Stupid, stupid stupid
Posted by: macdon1 on Feb 19, 2008 3:02 PM   
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The Bush Administration is building a huge monument to their stupidity, short sightedness and fascist disregard for ordinary people.

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A fence?
Posted by: rjs on Feb 19, 2008 4:44 PM   
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I've yet to keep a dog or cat inside a fence on a permanent basis, nor has the fence kept anything else out that wanted in. A large Deer simply plows on through.

Fences are designed to "Help" enforce or make known the bounds. Certainly not to enforce them. This is as wacky as the terror color chart.

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» Deer Leap Over A fence... Posted by: Cooltruth
US goverment is like running a....
Posted by: eosrk on Feb 19, 2008 5:53 PM   
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...junkyard stoker plant!

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It's a plot, I tell you
Posted by: luckypuck on Feb 19, 2008 6:00 PM   
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My paranormal paranoia tells me that this whole wall business is meant to spend so much money (remember, we're talking about, what? The last estimate I saw was 1,960 MILES of wall to do the trick not counting Canadian border and our coastlines)-where was I? Oh, so much money that the Cheneybush administration can justify raiding Social Security again and thereby kill the program.

I say this not only because I'm on Social Security.

I keep my sanity (barely) by the mantra,
335 days, 3 hours, 1 minute and 12 seconds,
335 days, 3 hours, 1 minute and 11 seconds,
335 days, 3 hours, 1 minute and 10 seconds,
335 days, 3 hours, 1 minute and 9 seconds,
335 days, 3 hours, 1 minute and 8 seconds,
335 days, 3 hours, 1 minute . . . "

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One wonders at the logic of NOT building the fence on their property...
Posted by: RON_KING on Feb 20, 2008 1:31 AM   
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You would think that if the illegal immigration of these workers was such a major concern for those conservatives who are clamoring the loudest, that they would be screaming the hardest FOR being first and foremost with the wall on THEIR property. After all, they have valuable land and assets that need the protection. I can also see building the wall away from the actual border as that is a riverbed with a channel that might move, but building it a mile or more away AND through someone’s house?

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megaseth7
Posted by: megaseth7 on Feb 20, 2008 11:11 AM   
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No, you do get world class health care if your poor...just not if your middle class or the working poor.

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Hey!!
Posted by: donl51 on Feb 21, 2008 12:54 PM   
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Gives the immigrants a chance to lay back,have a drink play a few holes!,immigrants play golf to y'know,jeez what insensitive people we are!

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Yeah
Posted by: boundjymind on Feb 21, 2008 5:50 PM   
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Yeah, in Europe castles became less fortified and more residential as central governments became more effective at keeping peace. This wall is as much a monument to lack of imagination as anything else.

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If Ever There Were a Real Cloak and Daggar Spook, It's Michael Chertoff, Who Has a Very Loose Grasp
Posted by: wmichaeltrout on Feb 23, 2008 5:37 PM   
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of the meaning of public service.

.....Mr Chertoff says, that while his agency is open to suggestions, it is not open to ENDLESS DEBATE.

.....Oh, and here I thought endless debate was the nature of a democracy.

Pardon moi, mein fuhrer.

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it's simple, actually
Posted by: keep_it_real on Feb 24, 2008 9:56 AM   
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2 things:

1) Rich property owners have lots of money to litigate. If they're looking at budget and trying to build as much wall as possible while funneling money into corporate hands, you want to lose as little money as possible on litigation. Naturally, those with the least knowledge of the system and the least capacity to use it will be the target. Last thing you want is a consortium of multimillionaires and billionaires getting together to undermine the legislation.

2) Trying to build through rich people's land would probably be the best way to get rid of this poorly thought out plan, because they would leverage their personal networks to stop things.

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