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Clinton Loses Virginia, Maryland, DC

By John Nichols, TheNation.com. Posted February 13, 2008.


Ohio and Texas could be make-it-or-break-it.

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February has only 29 days in this Leap/Election Year

But it is turning out to be the longest month for Hillary Clinton.

The New York senator whose presidential campaign team had hoped to "seal the deal" in its quest for the Democratic presidential nomination with something akin to a sweep of "Super Tuesday" primaries and caucuses instead lost at least 13 of 22 contests on February 5. (New Mexico is still sorting out its troubled count and could yet give a win to either Clinton or Barack Obama.)

A delegate division that was supposed to confirm her inevitability instead put her in a neck-and-neck race with Obama.

And then her run really took a turn for the worse.

On Saturday, February 9, Obama swept a primary in Louisiana and caucuses in Nebraska, Washington and the Virgin Islands.

On Sunday, February 10, Obama whipped Clinton in the caucuses of Maine, a state where both candidates campaigned hard and where the former first lady had strong support from key Democrats such as Governor John Baldacci.

And, now, on Tuesday, February 12, Clinton has suffered big losses in the District of Columbia and Maryland, where she was expected to trail Obama, and Virginia, where her aides had held out a slim measure of hope that she might prevail.

Clinton worked hard to hold the line in Virginia, but Obama was beating her by a 64 percent to 35 percent -- very nearly a 2-1 margin.

With the Maryland (62 percent to 35 percent), Virginia and DC (75 percent to 24 percent) victories, Obama moved ahead of Clinton in committed delegates 1,208 to 1,185.

Obama claimed his "Potomac Primary" wins in Madison, Wisconsin, where polls have begun to suggest that he can win the Badger State's February 19 primary. Hawaii, where Obama went to high school, will caucus that day and is also expected to go for the Illinois senator.

"This is the new American majority. This is what change looks like," Obama told almost 20,000 cheering supporters on the University of Wisconsin campus.

"Today, the change we seek swept the Chesapeake and the Potomac. We won the state of Maryland," the senator declared. "We won the state of Virginia. And though we won in the District of Columbia, this movement won't stop until there is change in Washington DC."

If the pattern holds, Obama's February record will be 23 or 24 wins (depending on New Mexico) to 8 or 9 wins for Clinton.

Obama's post-Super Tuesday stats could well be 10-0.

And his claim of national support is now epic in scope.

"(The) cynics can no longer say our hope is false," Obama said in Madison. "We have won east and west, north and south, and across the great heartland of this country we love."

Clinton still holds out hope for a turnaround on March 4 in Ohio and Texas. But her campaign is going to have a tougher time convincing donors to cough up the money to compete in those multi-media market states with the win-loss ratio she is toting up in the longest month of what has turned out to be a hard, hard winter for the former front-runner.

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It's Time To Witdraw Billary
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 13, 2008 2:27 AM   
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The Fat Lady is running scales. Maybe you can be McCain's running mate.

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The Supreme Superdelegates Court
Posted by: artie on Feb 13, 2008 3:14 AM   
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Whatever Obama's wins mean, the question of his nomination reduces to the question whether the Democratic Party will use its superdelegates to do to Democrats generally what the the Republican Party and the US Supreme Court did to US citizens in the 2000 election? It would be the most egregious paradox if Clinton managed to do precisely this, using her superdelegate clout to usurp the nomination, not only to become the nominee but at the same time prove she is precisely the wrong nominee!

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Senator Clinton NEEDS Ohio and Texas
Posted by: xvictor on Feb 13, 2008 5:36 AM   
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If she fails to capture those two states she might as well hang it up. I feel folks are voting because people DEMAND change. And Obama is NOT Hillary or Bush. She ran a good game. And I feel she will help open the doors for more viable female candidates in the future. She's not the one, however.

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» RE: Senator Clinton NEEDS Ohio and Texas Posted by: cardboardurinal
She doesn't get it
Posted by: scheherezade on Feb 13, 2008 5:43 AM   
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Clinton stood in front of Dems at a recent debate and shitcanned single payer health insurance because "It doesn't work, for various reasons."

She seems to have forgotten that the average liberal voter tends to be a bit more informed than the average conservative voter.

We are tired of 'public/private' free lunches for the rich. Who knows what Obama plans -- he may be just as suggestible as Hillary to corporation-centered theorizing, but at this point, he's better than nothin.

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» RE: She doesn't get it Posted by: willymack
» RE: She doesn't get it Posted by: TagsNOLA
There's now LOTS of trouble in "Hillaryland".
Posted by: keefus55 on Feb 13, 2008 5:55 AM   
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These primaries weren't just wins for Mr. Obama...they were routs.

And the fact that Mrs. Clinton has been forced to now publicly "promise" that there won't be "any more scandals" from her philandering, former President husband speaks volumes.

Clearly, the past (now evaporating) support for Mrs. Clinton had everything to do with most Democrats' mistaken belief that she was the only one in the Democratic field who could actually win real primaries among Democrats and then win the election against the Republicans.

Mr. Obama has now proven that he is fully capable of doing the former. And numerous opinion polls are now indicating that he is ALSO fully capable of doing the latter.

As a direct result of those revelations, my hunch is that the Obama tsunami is just getting started...

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Hillary: GOP-lite
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Feb 13, 2008 6:13 AM   
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She lost me with her warmongering and plan to force us to fork over premiums to private health insurers (she calls it "shared responsibility"). Where the hell are we supposed to get the money to enrich her health-insurer sponsors and guarantee the for-profit disaster that is the status quo? Has she no idea what is happening out here? 90% of the people I know who lost decent jobs over the past 7 years have NEVER recovered. The new job is always lower-paying with fewer benefits. Not to mention those like myself who simply gave up searching for work and became self-employed: we just can't afford insurance. The idea of the government forcing me to fork over money to greedy health insurers makes me sick. This is not a democracy by any stretch of the imagination. Conservatives hate democracy.

And her vile statement "We did our part in Iraq - now it's time for them to do theirs" could have been scripted by Rove himself. We smashed that little 3rd world country to bits- a country that posed no threat to us. Now we are charging them to fix the infrastructure that we broke. And Iraqis are dropping food subsidies to service their debt to the IMF. Hasn't Nouri al-Maliki ever heard of Naomi Klein's book "The Shock Doctrine"?
Not to mention her supporting the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment to start trouble with Iran. Another foreign war abroad while things disintegrate at home. She is really no different than the GOP.

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» RE: Hillary: GOP-lite Posted by: ashevegas
» RE: Hillary: GOP-lite Posted by: IndependentVoter
» RE: Hillary: GOP-lite Posted by: cardboardurinal
If the shoe were on the other Obama....
Posted by: kimbari on Feb 13, 2008 6:49 AM   
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they'd be screaming for him to "do the right thing" and bow out. But no, they keep cheering Hillary on even though America is running out of people haven't yet voted.

Stick a fork in her, Hillary Clinton is DONE.

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My Perspective...
Posted by: dave16 on Feb 13, 2008 6:58 AM   
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Please see www.discussrace.com

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» RE: My Perspective... Posted by: desidid
This line still troubles me.
Posted by: chaoslegs on Feb 13, 2008 7:17 AM   
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"(The) cynics can no longer say our hope is false," Obama said in Madison. "We have won east and west, north and south, and across the great heartland of this country we love."

Not because it is wrong, but it reminds me too much of this one from Rumsfeld.

"Not at all," Rumsfeld said, according to an official Pentagon transcript. "The area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

Like I said, nothing wrong with Obama's statement, just brings me unpleasant flashbacks to Dr. Obfuscate, you never know what you don't know you don't know.

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» RE: This line still troubles me. Posted by: unitedstatesofstupidity
copping a feel--Bill Clinton, The Sequel
Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 13, 2008 7:24 AM   
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Maybe now the Establishment is realizing that the rabble is no longer fooled. They realized that Bush II is outahere, so they thought they could foist a Hillary on us and we would welcome her with open arms.

Sorry, but the average Joe has made the connection between Bill and NAFTA, Bill and Personal Responsibility Acts, Bill and Wall Street Brokers. And his sideline of copping a feel whenever he thought he could get away with it.

I was at one of the Nebraska caucuses, where my rural state went 70% for Obama. Like one of my fellow farmers told me: "we don't need Bill Clinton--The Sequel"

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sunfiretree
Posted by: sunfire on Feb 13, 2008 8:35 AM   
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What really strikes me is how Senator Clinton is 'dissing' all of the other states. Each citizen in this country deserves respect and to have his/her voice recognized and heard. By saying the smaller states don't matter, she is saying the opinions and needs of those people dont't matter either. Now, I thought the President was the leader for the entire country -- not for a select politically expedient few. Does anyone else feel this way?

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» RE: sunfiretree Posted by: solrev
» RE: sunfiretree Posted by: Knot_Rich
Even if she survives the Primaries ...
Posted by: TarryFaster on Feb 13, 2008 8:54 AM   
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click here to see a partial list of links to other serious problems that we can be sure the fascists will use against her in the main election.

Make note, Texas and Ohio!

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Back when she first
Posted by: Pirate1 on Feb 13, 2008 9:15 AM   
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Came into my awareness, I thought Hillary was great. Her championing of single payer health care, her natural look and style. She was smart, she was cute. Hell, she was sexy... when Bill was fooling around I was one of many men, I think, that would have gladly helped her in any "payback" scheme, but that's a stupid fantasy from a much younger me. Over the years she's served in the Senate, she has left all that behind and become indistinguishable, to my mind, from almost any Republican you can name. As a feminist man, I would love there to be a female president in my lifetime but this woman just doesn't have it anymore. Her votes for war were bad enough but that joining forces with Leiberman a while back was the last straw. I had been actively backing Kucinich but since he withdrew, I wholeheartedly back Obama.

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Obama Clinton or Clinton Obama
Posted by: DrSuess on Feb 13, 2008 9:19 AM   
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The only question now is who will be the presidential candidate and who will be the vice presidential. With them this close in the polling, it makes sense to have the team. They get along (unlike McCain and Romney) and so they could be a team.

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» RE: Obama/Edwards Posted by: Dboy
» Obama/Richardson! Posted by: RobbieUMD
Obama's a liberal?! huh?!
Posted by: macaac on Feb 13, 2008 9:24 AM   
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Read his plans: for health care reform he wants to lower premiums so they're more affordable, supports merit pay for teachers, is a free market captalist, supports nuclear generation of electric power, says nothing about rolling back the upper class tax cuts, wants to expand the military, is a Zionist, has not ruled out miltary action against Iran, will take unilateral action to strike "terrorists" in Pakistan, believes that marriage is defined as a religious bond between a man and a woman, favors the death penalty, see: Political positions of Barack Obama

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» He's a moderate. Posted by: RobbieUMD
» RE: He's a moderate. Posted by: macaac
» RE: He's a moderate. Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: He's a ZIONIST Posted by: macaac
OK, so maybe Obama's the man
Posted by: willymack on Feb 13, 2008 1:16 PM   
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Is that a bad thing? Just look at the schlock "candidates" the rethugs have lined up for our selection.

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I can't understand it
Posted by: Greatdameinthemorning on Feb 13, 2008 2:25 PM   
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Why on earth are people voting for someone with no considerable experience in politics at a time when the country faces so many challenges. Obama will never be able to live up to the promises he's making right now. Change and inspiration are good motivators, but are best served for folks in Sales and on Wall Street.

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» RE: I can't understand it Posted by: SENILEBIKER
The fix will be in...
Posted by: truthteller on Feb 13, 2008 3:21 PM   
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...Regardless of the voter's preference, the "adults" who are the superdelegates will rule for Hillary, and so it will be. Just you watch. This is Kabuki theater of the first order, all orchestrated to make it look like the voters really will have a "choice" in which corporate candidates you can vote for.

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Rudy and Hill
Posted by: PaulK on Feb 13, 2008 8:05 PM   
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Rudy Giuliani was advised to wait for Florida. A big win would wipe out everyone else's advances in small states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

Hillary Clinton is advised to wait for Texas. Meanwhile, all the small states where 50,000 people elect each delegate are going, going, gone. In Texas 100,000 people elect each delegate, so you have to shake hands twice as fast and spend twice as much to switch just one delegate.

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