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2008's Ten Worst Places to Be Black

Sorry Obama, Black America is not "90 percent of the way" to equality.
February 13, 2008  |  
 
 
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Corporate media, which conceal much about the state of things beyond our borders, work hard to obscure the facts of life for Americans too, including the state of black America. In this year of symbolic firsts and "never befores" Black Agenda Report offers a useful index of how life is lived for hundreds of thousands of families in our communities.

America's prison system, the world's largest, houses some 2.2 million people. Almost half its prisoners come from the one-eighth of this country, which is black. African-American communities have been hard hit by the social, political and economic repercussions of the growth of America's prison state. Its presence and its reach into black life is a useful index of the quality of life in black America itself.

In this year of symbolic optimism, when a black man is a leading contender in the presidential race, as well as a leading recipient of contributions from Wall Street, big insurance and military contractors, the need to measure and describe life as it is actually lived by millions of African-Americans has never been greater. As we said in the introduction to 2005's Ten Worst Places to Be Black.
The pervasive corporate media bubble, which grossly distorts the views most Americans have of the world beyond their shores, and of life in America's black one-eighth, operates to fool African-Americans, too. While a fortunate few of us are doing very well indeed, and many more are hanging on as best we can, the conditions of life for a substantial chunk of black America are not substantially improving, and appear to be getting much worse. This is a truth which can't be found anywhere in the corporate media, but it is nevertheless one with which we must familiarize ourselves in preparation for the upcoming national black dialog. It is high time to begin constructing useful indices with which to measure the quality of life, not just for a fortunate few, but for the broad masses of our people in America's black one-eighth.
Painting an accurate picture is not difficult. Useful measures of family income and cohesiveness, of home ownership, life expectancy, education levels, of unemployment and underemployment abound. But among all the relevant data on the state of black America today, one factor stands out: the growth of America's public policy of racially selective policing, prosecution and mass imprisonment of its black citizens over the past 30 years. The operation of the crime-control industry has left a distinctive, multidimensional and devastating mark on the lives of millions of black families, and on the economic and social fabric of the communities in which they live.
Although our black presidential candidate would have us believe that African-Americans are, as he has said many times, "90 percent of the way" to freedom, justice and true equality, the facts seem to say otherwise. As recently as 1964, a majority of all U.S. prisoners were white men. But since 1988, the year Vice President George H.W. Bush rode to the White House, stoking white fears with an ad campaign featuring convicted black killer and rapist Willie Horton, the black one-eighth of America's population has furnished the majority of new admissions to its prisons and jails.

The fact is that while U.S. prison populations have grown seven times since 1970, crime rates have increased only slightly over that time. According to Berkeley scholar Dr. Loic Wacquant, the increase in America's prison population over that time has been achieved simply by locking up five times as many people per one thousand reported crimes as we did in 1980.

The ripple effects on black communities and families have been enormous and devastating. Millions of the black poor are permanently stigmatized, excluded from much of the job market and opportunities for training and education, and are sent home to the same resource-poor, deindustrialized communities in which they lived before prison, where there are no services for them and no societal will to educate or train them. America's enormous prison system, along with its punitive and exclusionary attitude toward the class of people from which prisoners originate, is freezing the black poor in place for generations to come. As we said in 2005,

"... if you want to know where black families fare the worst, where the lowest wages and life expectancy are, where to find the highest unemployment and the greatest number of single-parent households among African-Americans, you don't need an online survey. You certainly don't count the black businesses or the black elected officials. You count the black prisoners and the former prisoners, and the ruined communities they come from and are discharged into."

That's what we did. Despite our requests, we were unable to get breakdowns of federal prisoners by state of origin before our publication deadline, so our data excludes the nearly 200,000 prisoners under federal lock and key. When the Federal Bureau of Prisons makes this data available, we will share it with our readers. So here, based on incarceration data supplied by states and found on the website of The Sentencing Project, are the ten worst states in the United States to be black.
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Excluded from this list are South Dakota, Vermont, Utah, Montana, Idaho, and North Dakota, where African-Americans make up 1 percent or less of the population, but which do have extremely high rates of black incarceration.

Texas and California, the nation's two most populous states each account for more than a tenth of the nation's 2.2 million prisoners. Kansas and Kentucky, which did not make the 2005 "ten worst" list, have replaced Delaware and Nevada.

Dishonorable mentions: racial disparities in incarceration

Most U.S. prisoners are nonviolent drug offenders. Although federal statistics show the rates of illegal drug use for whites, blacks and Latinos to be within a single percentage point of each other, African-Americans are an absolute majority of the people serving time for drug offenses. The start and inescapable fact of double-digit disparity between black and white incarceration rates is hard to miss and harder to explain, except in terms of a consistently applied if rarely acknowledged policy of racially selective policing, sentencing and imprisonment.
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The states with the 15 highest disparity rates between black and white incarceration show some interesting characteristics. First, none of them are in the South. Secondly, blacks make up a negligible percentage, 6 percent or less in ten of these high disparity states. Thirdly, the other five high-disparity states either contain or are adjacent to three of the five largest concentrations of African-American population in the United States, namely the metro areas of New York, Chicago and Philadelphia.

What about the South?

About half of all African-Americans live in the South, and that number is increasing. Generally, Southern states have higher percentages of black population, but lower disparity rates between black and white population than elsewhere. No Southern state locks up nine or ten times as many African-Americans as whites. In the table below, we can see that the Texas pattern is a typical southern one, with a pretty average disparity rate.
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The states with the 15 highest disparity rates between black and white incarceration show some interesting characteristics. First, none of them are in the South. Secondly, blacks make up a negligible percentage, 6 percent or less in ten of these high disparity states. Thirdly, the other five high-disparity states either contain or are adjacent to three of the five largest concentrations of African-American population in the United States, namely the metro areas of New York, Chicago and Philadelphia.

Evidently, the highest relative percentages of African-Americans, if not the highest absolute numbers of black incarcerated, are to be found in and near large concentrations of Northern blacks, or in states where African-Americans make up a relatively small percentage of the population.

Are things getting any better? Is there any good news?

There is good news, but not in the numbers. According to Prisons and Jails at Mid-Year 2006, in the 12 months ending on June 30, 2006, prison populations increased in 43 state jurisdictions and declined or remained the same in eight. Overall, the number of America's prisoners is increasing at a rate not seen since 1999-2000.

The good news is that the issue of racially selective mass incarceration has actually begun to be acknowledged by members of the nation's political elite. One day last October, a bipartisan hearing on the topic was conducted. Every candidate for office in black constituencies for some time has been accustomed to "drive-by" rhetorical mentions of the fact that we are a disproportionate share of the nation's incarcerated.

Even Democratic presidential candidates have made cursory nods to the edges of the issue. Obama is promising to spend millions more on re-entry programs, and Hillary Clinton has denounced felony disenfranchisement.

Those are the limits of the good news. Money on re-entry programs is a good thing, and felony disenfranchisement is indeed a very bad thing. But both leave unexplored and untouched the foundational reasons for the explosive growth of America's prison state, a topic explored by Loic Wacquant elsewhere in this issue. An Oregon state senator introduced a bill calling for racial disparity impact statements to accompany further sentencing law; the senator plans to reintroduce it in the coming session.

Longstanding public policies like racially selective mass incarceration, which profoundly affects the quality of black life will not change without the birth of a broad social movement in our African-American communities to demand it. Cautious politicians dependent on campaign contributors and the favor of corporate media won't give us this, any more than LBJ would have given us the 1965 Civil Rights bill without a loud, disrespectful and civilly disobedient mass movement in the streets to embarrass him and prod him on. It will take a movement on that scale to challenge the policies of racially selective mass incarceration.

Is it in us? Only time will tell.
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Not wanting to cause a riot...
Posted by: cordas on Feb 13, 2008 1:29 AM   
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But to mmy fairly uneducated eyes it appears that the problems highlighted in this issue are far more to do with reform of the laws and more specificaly the drug laws than those of racism.

Making race the issue in prisonner numbers ignores the fact that aren't most of them in for drugs offences, and aren't the drug laws tilted more agaisnt certain drugs than others... I am sure I have read numerous articles here on Alternet about just this issue.

I have no doubt there are still racism issues in the US, I know there are here in the UK, but blame needs to be pointed at where the actual cause of the problem is if its going to do anything to help sort it out... rather than just muddy the issue.

On a side note... the formating of this article is terrible!

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Perception vs Reality
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 13, 2008 3:28 AM   
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The stats showing less disparity in the South ought to cause some to give up their prejudice against the South. It's not nirvana by a long shot, but in many ways southerners have slowly learned to deal with the issues of race better than many other parts of the country.

Someone needs to tell the talking heads on TV that framed everything by race on Super Tuesday. The issues of race are national - not regional.

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Racism or just poor
Posted by: overseas on Feb 13, 2008 3:33 AM   
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IS there any reason why in south the black white ratio is more even in prisons than in north? Is it because several of the southern states are mostly poorer than north states and thus more people (black and white) are more likely to be poor and thus more likely to be disenfranchised and more prone to be lured to drug trade--out of lack of hope or some economic incentive?? I am not sure..it does not all add up for sure and Obama needs to pay attention to this.

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While white folks go to rehab,
Posted by: Urstrly on Feb 13, 2008 4:00 AM   
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people of color go to jail. In New York, we have been struggling for years against the Rockefeller drug laws, under which possession of crack cocaine was more heavily punished than powder (the drug of choice on Wall Street). Some modification has been made in these laws, and when last I heard, there was squabbling over if and how to make sentencing retroactive.

Right-wing pressure to take discretion away from judges has contributed to untold and unnecessary suffering to poor people of all races. Prisons have been built hundreds of miles from the cities most prisoners come from, primarily to boost rural economies. A person sentenced to Riker's Island (in New York City) on a misdemeanor is likely to leave with subway fare, no job and not enough money to find lodging for the night.

Meanwhile, Harlem has become hot real estate. East Harlem is being gentrified as Manhattan's tony East Side pushes north. Columbia University is claiming 17 acres of West Harlem to expand its facilities.

It is false to imply that only Obama gets money from corporations and the military industrial complex, or even that he gets the most. Only Edwards turned down these monies, and he was weak on racial justice.

Are we kidding ourselves that racial prejudices have been overcome if we can nominate Obama? Of course. But I think his election is more likely to force white Americans to confront their prejudices than the election of anyone else. And it might bring an end to the deliberate policy of "benign neglect" that Republicans began back in the time of Nixon.

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Add life expectancy to the list
Posted by: PaulK on Feb 13, 2008 4:06 AM   
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Too many black kids have asthma. The black neighborhoods are seen as a good place to dump toxic waste and run, or to build a toxic school on a waste dump. Someone else fill out the health care problems here. And the education problems.

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Today it's class, not race
Posted by: Dianka on Feb 13, 2008 5:21 AM   
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By viewing only race, the easiest defining factor to identify, we ignore the real issue---class.
Prison populations are disproportionately minority because minorities are disproportionately poor, for long-standing reasons that are too complex to detail here. Prison populations consist of the poor, with only very rare exceptions, but it's not because poor people are more inclined toward deviant behavior (although desperation certainly can drive people to crime). The point is, race is no longer the issue. "It's the economy, stupid." Its about class, and being powerless.

Above all, our wildly expanded prisons system is about local, super-cheap labor. There isn't a single business that cares what color their labor is, as long as it is cheap. If corporations were forced to pay inmates the legal minimum wage, they would quickly lose interest in exploiting prison labor, and it would no longer be profitable to "those who matter" to continue imprisoning Americans at a shocking rate.

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Hard to swallow
Posted by: maxfactor on Feb 13, 2008 5:22 AM   
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I used to live in West-Oakland, CA as a student I am white and European. I was amazed at the amount of segregation, no-go-zones, scaremongering by whities about this aera. I happily lived there for 5 years, buying my bread at the muslim-bakery, walking to Grand auto to get my weekly supply of spare parts for my crappy Impala. Walking to and from BART late at night. There was crime, drugs and violence. Pure racism and hatred I encountered only with the whites. AA were mostly selfconscious and feeling frustrated beeing shortchanged by american mainstream.
No Gulags and hardly any Ghettos in Europe though although equal opportunity is also far from perfect.

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Hey! The State of Iowa is doing something!
Posted by: sausage on Feb 13, 2008 6:50 AM   
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Our Democratic governor wants to rebuild and refurbish the current maximum security prison at Fort Madison, Iowa, the oldest prison (constructed in 1839) west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile the Statehouse Republicans want to look at locations in central Iowa, closer to Des Moines and Polk County, where two minimum security prisons already are located.
House Republicans say look at all options before building new prison at Fort Madison, February 4, 2008

Don't tell me the legislators and chief executive of the State of Iowa aren't doing anything.

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My perspective...
Posted by: dave16 on Feb 13, 2008 6:56 AM   
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Please see www.discussrace.com

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This article is disgusting. I dont like it one bit
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Feb 13, 2008 7:41 AM   
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This country is far more stratified by wealth than by melanin. It still breaks down in a lot of places that the amount of melanin in one's skin is correlated with income. I guarantee the wealthy people with high amounts of melanin are happily throwing the poor people with higher amounts of melanin in jail. People with money typically control how laws are written and enforced. They dont like to enforce them on themselves, but have no problem enforcing them on "those people". When it comes to gang culture, violence, and possessing illegal things. I think their criminal actions speak for themselves. I find it hard to imagine a city where its citizens dont demand that gangs are singled out and punished (arrested) at a higher rate. I also bet one's probability of joining a gang is related to how much money their family makes and how well one does in school (aka what kind of future one make for one's self). If melanin levels are correlated with income and if gang membership is correlated with income and if people in different regions dont tolerate certain activities the same way as other regions I would expect huge differences in the numbers of people incarcerated by region. Also money gets betters lawyers that get you out of jail faster. What would be really alarming is if people are denied services based on melanin or denied access to businesses and jobs. Measuring how "good it is to be black" by incarceration rates is disgusting at best. This article is disturbing. How many people incarcerated are from metro areas? How many people incarcerated in metro areas have college degrees? What about regions in metro area. If one charts incarceration by city block what would be the result of that study? Why? I would like to know what is the disparity between sentences of first time offenders for the same crime based on melanin. Total numbers may speak to other more global issues occurring in a society. Talk about real issues dont use incarceration as a proxy for real issues. Why not write an article about job training, income, education, home ownership, entrepreneurship, opportunities in public office, community. Dont use incarceration rates. Also what if people in prisons are there from other states? Cities also cross state lines. Anyway what about people with higher amounts of melanin that dont live in metro areas? How do they fair?

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enough blame/responsibility to go around
Posted by: grkjr on Feb 13, 2008 8:59 AM   
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Tis not an event that takes place that enough blame can't go around to touch everyone.... it would seem that personal responsibility is often passed over when one can focus on other factors, that though just as much a part of the problem, lets the individual off the hook. I beleive it was Crosby who tried to bring back individual responsibity into the formula and was kicked everywhich way.. attacking part of the problem while ignoring the self will always end up here.. years go by and we are still talking the same talk. Until we tell the truth about the issue, there is no chance of moving on....
1. Black america is at a disadvantage from every point of view.. bad schools, bad housing, drop outs go live on the street for instant bucks out of resignation
2. White america continues to leave the poor districts behind... be it black or white, with inadequate funding.
3. Too many black or white disadvantaged simply do not take on responsible steps to improve themselves versus throw in the towel.. ie, stay in school, resist gang membership, resist the fast bucks on the street.
4. As long as we do not give the dollars necessary to those poor districts to ensure the opportunity is there for staying in school, what ever it takes... it would be cheaper than dealing with what we are dealing with now. AND as long as the individual in those poor districts continues to take the easy way out in his/her frustration.(parents a major concern here for lack of guidance in the home). we will stay in the same mess.

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white people don't stand on street corners selling dope
Posted by: billwald on Feb 13, 2008 9:12 AM   
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Police arrest black dopers because black people stand on street corners selling dope. White dopers sell indoors to friends and co-workers. We can only arrest those we see selling the stuff.

Second, at least in Seattle (15% black?), about 40% of crime victims describe the suspect as black.

Third, in the press, complaints about racial discrimination are most always complaints from black people and situations involving black people, almost never about Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Seikh, East Indian, Pakistani . . . people. West of the Rockies one can't go two blocks in any business district without seeing a business or a professional office with a name from one of the above mentioned groups. One generally must go to a black ghetto to find a black owned business. With one exception, Americans seem to prefer dealing with most any race or nationality other than white American.

Bottom line is that African Americans have a defective culture that doesn't effect recent African immigrants or any one else. In the USofA, people from mainland Asia and Japan have a culture superior to white people and white people don't mind dealing with them.

Last spring I went to the Washington State math contest finals. At least half the kids appeared to be Chinese or Korean (maybe 5% of the population). I didn't see a single person who appeared to be African American.

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Cut us blacks folks some slack
Posted by: Kym525 on Feb 13, 2008 9:42 AM   
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Firstly, not to negate the serious issue of incarceration amongst black men, can we at least be amazed by the fact that a BLACK MAN is actually running for president? Ask your parents or grandparents if they could have imagined such a thing. No, we haven't come as far as we'd have liked after the Civil Rights Movement, but we're a damn sight a little better off than before it. Obama is not blind to the issues of race (he can't be considering), but unlike so many of us, he's not willing to limit himself because of it.

That's the biggest problem we have amongst young blacks--this insane sense of entitlement--few of you have any clue as to what hardships the generations before us faced and surmounted. Many of you act as if being attacked by police dogs, or beat with nightsticks and not fighting back was so damn easy. I wasn't there, but I can imagine the fear, the pain and the terror and I praise those brave souls everyday because their fight brought us to this historic moment.

I for one am proud.

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an Black Man in Prison is proped up by media....
Posted by: eosrk on Feb 13, 2008 11:48 AM   
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such as Snoop Dogg, and a bunch of others, are condsidered as the thread of the New Black America......

Meanwhile, others such as myself and countless other black men and women whom just go to work and earn a living are considered a bunch a nobodies for we are breaking that law

My statement to the media on that one.....F--K YOU, TOO!!!!

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Education Level Determines Class
Posted by: MiddleOfTheRoad on Feb 13, 2008 2:22 PM   
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The psychologic and sociological research literature tends to show that the level of a person's education determines the amount of money a person makes.

The amount of money a person makes determines your class in society.

In most all anthropological and sociological research, class determines the amount of bigotry that any society directs toward you.

While it surely isn't FAIR, if you have a good education, you have a better chance of not going to prison.

This article entirely misses the point of what scientific research has shown about what is happening in America.

The root of the problem is EDUCATION!

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Rs ten worst places to be black.
Posted by: bitsfick on Feb 13, 2008 2:24 PM   
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Is there any place in America where it is OK to be black? The reality is that there is no place in america where it is OK to be black, admitedly some places are a little bit better than others but by and large this country is predominantly racist.

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To cordas - Not Wanting to Cause a Riot...
Posted by: Quannah on Feb 13, 2008 4:26 PM   
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"But to mmy fairly uneducated eyes it appears that the problems highlighted in this issue are far more to do with reform of the laws and more specificaly the drug laws than those of racism..."

Those two things are one and the same. Bad drug laws are the institutionalization of racism. So trying to separate them out as two different problems is missing the obvious.

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Floor wax/Desert topping
Posted by: improperly_sedated on Feb 13, 2008 6:01 PM   
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This chicken and the egg thing is getting tedious.

It's about race. It's about class. Anyone who insists that it's one and not the other is just wrong.

Racism is a universal part of the human condition, because there will always be some degree of xenophobia. American Racism is a deliberately constructed system of oppression, and what it was constructed out of was natural xenophobic racism and social class.

In the early days of the English colonies in America, society was brutally oppressive of those at the bottom, who were both European and African. Fearing an uprising, the ruling class created a new set of class distinctions based on race, and we've been living with that color coded class system ever since.

One big problem with having a color coded class system is that people get confused. They think racial issues are class issues, or class issues are racial. Some folks even insist with a straight face that racism doesn't exist, or that we have a classless society.

And that's just how the parasitic fuckers at the top like it. The ultimate wedge issue is still going strong after more than three hundred years, while they sit back and count their blood money.

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Texas Texas Texas..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Feb 13, 2008 7:21 PM   
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Texas..or in jail in Texas..!

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Wow...what a bunch of bunk.
Posted by: Johhny_Wadd on Feb 14, 2008 7:21 AM   
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Way to perpetuate the "Minority Victim Complex".

The reason that a higher percentage of blacks are locked up is really quite simple: a higher percentage of them commit crimes than other groups.

The FBI Compiled Crime Statistics report and other reputable sources routinely indicate that blacks commited crimes on a much higher per capita rate than other ethnic groupings. Moreover, in some sorts of crime the percentage of black criminals is higher in overall numbers rather than per capita. These include murder, sexual assault (especially that of very elderly women with is almost exclusively a black crime), and the overall catagory of inter-racial crime (in which blacks are the perps in about 90% of all cases).

Now before the more paranoid amongst you say "that's no surpise as our justice system is 'racist' " allow me to point out that these statistics are largely confirmed by victim and witness self-reporting studies. (the anecdotal edividence someone game below of a kid who falsely reported a black criminal is meaningless in it's isolation)

What causes this? I have no real clue. But it's certainly not some deep dark conspiracy to keep blacks locked up by *cue scary music* eeevvviiillll raaacists in law enforcement. Other like to blame the large numbers of blacks in poverty. While there is a relation between poverty and crime, this reasoning falls apart when you realise that the disparities between racial group crime statistics remain largely the same even when you adjust to only include the percentage of other groups in poverty. More damning to the "it's the poverty" argument is the fact that the numbers remains the same for non-economicly based crimes such as sexual assault.

The bottom line is that the reason more blacks land in prison is...suprise! They are more likely for whatever reason to commit crimes. It's really that simple and to pretend otherwise only encourages the mindset that is largely behind what racial unrest we have today...the victim complex.

Oh yes and one quick note. Someone below pointed out the "fact" that the majority of prison inmates are "non-violent drug offenders". What he fails to mention is that this is at best a half-truth and at worst a purposely misleading statement that pro-drug types like to point out. The vast majority of those incarcerated for drug related offenses are in for drug related property crimes (ie they were stealing to support a drug habit), are street dealers, or were in pocession of large amounts of drugs with the intent of later distribution. The idea that our prisons are packed with a bunch of harmless kids who happend to have a joint on them is a myth.

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po lil o me
Posted by: jdkd on Feb 26, 2008 5:32 AM   
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complicated issue...lots of opinions...here is mine and sure to get some backlash.
have to agree with those who say...dont do the crime, dont do the time.
yeah life is unfair black or white...not so sure it is all about how much money you make
seems like is all about what you can take...from whomever you can take it from
i work in a city emergency dept...have been there for over 10 years....see more blacks than white...(i am white)...i dont like snooty whites, i dont like snooty blacks....and i dont know who i have the least respect for....but i will ask you this...
how difficult is it to take a bath, dress in clean clothes, take care of yourself and your children...stop acting like slobs and animals, stop acting like the world owes you so much "respect" (black or white)
to me, it is all about attitude and doing what is right, for yourself, your children, your family, your country.
sure i have my own "brand of what is right" as we all do..
my window on the world is a small one and seen thru this venue of healthcare gone wrong...but the "culture" comes out, and it is getting harder to go to work every day and really have to deal with so much abuse and bullmanure when all i would like to be able to do, is take care of the truly sick folks, instead of all the "politically correct" and welfare abuse and insurance abuse that we see. and yes, whitey..i am talking to you too!!
any and all responses will be welcome...i sound biased but really am not...just how can we get some answers to this huge "problem" ??

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Not wanting to cause a riot...
Posted by: cordas on Feb 13, 2008 1:29 AM   
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But to mmy fairly uneducated eyes it appears that the problems highlighted in this issue are far more to do with reform of the laws and more specificaly the drug laws than those of racism.

Making race the issue in prisonner numbers ignores the fact that aren't most of them in for drugs offences, and aren't the drug laws tilted more agaisnt certain drugs than others... I am sure I have read numerous articles here on Alternet about just this issue.

I have no doubt there are still racism issues in the US, I know there are here in the UK, but blame needs to be pointed at where the actual cause of the problem is if its going to do anything to help sort it out... rather than just muddy the issue.

On a side note... the formating of this article is terrible!

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Perception vs Reality
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 13, 2008 3:28 AM   
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The stats showing less disparity in the South ought to cause some to give up their prejudice against the South. It's not nirvana by a long shot, but in many ways southerners have slowly learned to deal with the issues of race better than many other parts of the country.

Someone needs to tell the talking heads on TV that framed everything by race on Super Tuesday. The issues of race are national - not regional.

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Racism or just poor
Posted by: overseas on Feb 13, 2008 3:33 AM   
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IS there any reason why in south the black white ratio is more even in prisons than in north? Is it because several of the southern states are mostly poorer than north states and thus more people (black and white) are more likely to be poor and thus more likely to be disenfranchised and more prone to be lured to drug trade--out of lack of hope or some economic incentive?? I am not sure..it does not all add up for sure and Obama needs to pay attention to this.

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While white folks go to rehab,
Posted by: Urstrly on Feb 13, 2008 4:00 AM   
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people of color go to jail. In New York, we have been struggling for years against the Rockefeller drug laws, under which possession of crack cocaine was more heavily punished than powder (the drug of choice on Wall Street). Some modification has been made in these laws, and when last I heard, there was squabbling over if and how to make sentencing retroactive.

Right-wing pressure to take discretion away from judges has contributed to untold and unnecessary suffering to poor people of all races. Prisons have been built hundreds of miles from the cities most prisoners come from, primarily to boost rural economies. A person sentenced to Riker's Island (in New York City) on a misdemeanor is likely to leave with subway fare, no job and not enough money to find lodging for the night.

Meanwhile, Harlem has become hot real estate. East Harlem is being gentrified as Manhattan's tony East Side pushes north. Columbia University is claiming 17 acres of West Harlem to expand its facilities.

It is false to imply that only Obama gets money from corporations and the military industrial complex, or even that he gets the most. Only Edwards turned down these monies, and he was weak on racial justice.

Are we kidding ourselves that racial prejudices have been overcome if we can nominate Obama? Of course. But I think his election is more likely to force white Americans to confront their prejudices than the election of anyone else. And it might bring an end to the deliberate policy of "benign neglect" that Republicans began back in the time of Nixon.

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Add life expectancy to the list
Posted by: PaulK on Feb 13, 2008 4:06 AM   
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Too many black kids have asthma. The black neighborhoods are seen as a good place to dump toxic waste and run, or to build a toxic school on a waste dump. Someone else fill out the health care problems here. And the education problems.

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Today it's class, not race
Posted by: Dianka on Feb 13, 2008 5:21 AM   
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By viewing only race, the easiest defining factor to identify, we ignore the real issue---class.
Prison populations are disproportionately minority because minorities are disproportionately poor, for long-standing reasons that are too complex to detail here. Prison populations consist of the poor, with only very rare exceptions, but it's not because poor people are more inclined toward deviant behavior (although desperation certainly can drive people to crime). The point is, race is no longer the issue. "It's the economy, stupid." Its about class, and being powerless.

Above all, our wildly expanded prisons system is about local, super-cheap labor. There isn't a single business that cares what color their labor is, as long as it is cheap. If corporations were forced to pay inmates the legal minimum wage, they would quickly lose interest in exploiting prison labor, and it would no longer be profitable to "those who matter" to continue imprisoning Americans at a shocking rate.

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Hard to swallow
Posted by: maxfactor on Feb 13, 2008 5:22 AM   
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I used to live in West-Oakland, CA as a student I am white and European. I was amazed at the amount of segregation, no-go-zones, scaremongering by whities about this aera. I happily lived there for 5 years, buying my bread at the muslim-bakery, walking to Grand auto to get my weekly supply of spare parts for my crappy Impala. Walking to and from BART late at night. There was crime, drugs and violence. Pure racism and hatred I encountered only with the whites. AA were mostly selfconscious and feeling frustrated beeing shortchanged by american mainstream.
No Gulags and hardly any Ghettos in Europe though although equal opportunity is also far from perfect.

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Hey! The State of Iowa is doing something!
Posted by: sausage on Feb 13, 2008 6:50 AM   
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Our Democratic governor wants to rebuild and refurbish the current maximum security prison at Fort Madison, Iowa, the oldest prison (constructed in 1839) west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile the Statehouse Republicans want to look at locations in central Iowa, closer to Des Moines and Polk County, where two minimum security prisons already are located.
House Republicans say look at all options before building new prison at Fort Madison, February 4, 2008

Don't tell me the legislators and chief executive of the State of Iowa aren't doing anything.

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My perspective...
Posted by: dave16 on Feb 13, 2008 6:56 AM   
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Please see www.discussrace.com

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This article is disgusting. I dont like it one bit
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Feb 13, 2008 7:41 AM   
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This country is far more stratified by wealth than by melanin. It still breaks down in a lot of places that the amount of melanin in one's skin is correlated with income. I guarantee the wealthy people with high amounts of melanin are happily throwing the poor people with higher amounts of melanin in jail. People with money typically control how laws are written and enforced. They dont like to enforce them on themselves, but have no problem enforcing them on "those people". When it comes to gang culture, violence, and possessing illegal things. I think their criminal actions speak for themselves. I find it hard to imagine a city where its citizens dont demand that gangs are singled out and punished (arrested) at a higher rate. I also bet one's probability of joining a gang is related to how much money their family makes and how well one does in school (aka what kind of future one make for one's self). If melanin levels are correlated with income and if gang membership is correlated with income and if people in different regions dont tolerate certain activities the same way as other regions I would expect huge differences in the numbers of people incarcerated by region. Also money gets betters lawyers that get you out of jail faster. What would be really alarming is if people are denied services based on melanin or denied access to businesses and jobs. Measuring how "good it is to be black" by incarceration rates is disgusting at best. This article is disturbing. How many people incarcerated are from metro areas? How many people incarcerated in metro areas have college degrees? What about regions in metro area. If one charts incarceration by city block what would be the result of that study? Why? I would like to know what is the disparity between sentences of first time offenders for the same crime based on melanin. Total numbers may speak to other more global issues occurring in a society. Talk about real issues dont use incarceration as a proxy for real issues. Why not write an article about job training, income, education, home ownership, entrepreneurship, opportunities in public office, community. Dont use incarceration rates. Also what if people in prisons are there from other states? Cities also cross state lines. Anyway what about people with higher amounts of melanin that dont live in metro areas? How do they fair?

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enough blame/responsibility to go around
Posted by: grkjr on Feb 13, 2008 8:59 AM   
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Tis not an event that takes place that enough blame can't go around to touch everyone.... it would seem that personal responsibility is often passed over when one can focus on other factors, that though just as much a part of the problem, lets the individual off the hook. I beleive it was Crosby who tried to bring back individual responsibity into the formula and was kicked everywhich way.. attacking part of the problem while ignoring the self will always end up here.. years go by and we are still talking the same talk. Until we tell the truth about the issue, there is no chance of moving on....
1. Black america is at a disadvantage from every point of view.. bad schools, bad housing, drop outs go live on the street for instant bucks out of resignation
2. White america continues to leave the poor districts behind... be it black or white, with inadequate funding.
3. Too many black or white disadvantaged simply do not take on responsible steps to improve themselves versus throw in the towel.. ie, stay in school, resist gang membership, resist the fast bucks on the street.
4. As long as we do not give the dollars necessary to those poor districts to ensure the opportunity is there for staying in school, what ever it takes... it would be cheaper than dealing with what we are dealing with now. AND as long as the individual in those poor districts continues to take the easy way out in his/her frustration.(parents a major concern here for lack of guidance in the home). we will stay in the same mess.

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white people don't stand on street corners selling dope
Posted by: billwald on Feb 13, 2008 9:12 AM   
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Police arrest black dopers because black people stand on street corners selling dope. White dopers sell indoors to friends and co-workers. We can only arrest those we see selling the stuff.

Second, at least in Seattle (15% black?), about 40% of crime victims describe the suspect as black.

Third, in the press, complaints about racial discrimination are most always complaints from black people and situations involving black people, almost never about Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Seikh, East Indian, Pakistani . . . people. West of the Rockies one can't go two blocks in any business district without seeing a business or a professional office with a name from one of the above mentioned groups. One generally must go to a black ghetto to find a black owned business. With one exception, Americans seem to prefer dealing with most any race or nationality other than white American.

Bottom line is that African Americans have a defective culture that doesn't effect recent African immigrants or any one else. In the USofA, people from mainland Asia and Japan have a culture superior to white people and white people don't mind dealing with them.

Last spring I went to the Washington State math contest finals. At least half the kids appeared to be Chinese or Korean (maybe 5% of the population). I didn't see a single person who appeared to be African American.

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Cut us blacks folks some slack
Posted by: Kym525 on Feb 13, 2008 9:42 AM   
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Firstly, not to negate the serious issue of incarceration amongst black men, can we at least be amazed by the fact that a BLACK MAN is actually running for president? Ask your parents or grandparents if they could have imagined such a thing. No, we haven't come as far as we'd have liked after the Civil Rights Movement, but we're a damn sight a little better off than before it. Obama is not blind to the issues of race (he can't be considering), but unlike so many of us, he's not willing to limit himself because of it.

That's the biggest problem we have amongst young blacks--this insane sense of entitlement--few of you have any clue as to what hardships the generations before us faced and surmounted. Many of you act as if being attacked by police dogs, or beat with nightsticks and not fighting back was so damn easy. I wasn't there, but I can imagine the fear, the pain and the terror and I praise those brave souls everyday because their fight brought us to this historic moment.

I for one am proud.

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an Black Man in Prison is proped up by media....
Posted by: eosrk on Feb 13, 2008 11:48 AM   
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such as Snoop Dogg, and a bunch of others, are condsidered as the thread of the New Black America......

Meanwhile, others such as myself and countless other black men and women whom just go to work and earn a living are considered a bunch a nobodies for we are breaking that law

My statement to the media on that one.....F--K YOU, TOO!!!!

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Education Level Determines Class
Posted by: MiddleOfTheRoad on Feb 13, 2008 2:22 PM   
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The psychologic and sociological research literature tends to show that the level of a person's education determines the amount of money a person makes.

The amount of money a person makes determines your class in society.

In most all anthropological and sociological research, class determines the amount of bigotry that any society directs toward you.

While it surely isn't FAIR, if you have a good education, you have a better chance of not going to prison.

This article entirely misses the point of what scientific research has shown about what is happening in America.

The root of the problem is EDUCATION!

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Rs ten worst places to be black.
Posted by: bitsfick on Feb 13, 2008 2:24 PM   
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Is there any place in America where it is OK to be black? The reality is that there is no place in america where it is OK to be black, admitedly some places are a little bit better than others but by and large this country is predominantly racist.

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To cordas - Not Wanting to Cause a Riot...
Posted by: Quannah on Feb 13, 2008 4:26 PM   
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"But to mmy fairly uneducated eyes it appears that the problems highlighted in this issue are far more to do with reform of the laws and more specificaly the drug laws than those of racism..."

Those two things are one and the same. Bad drug laws are the institutionalization of racism. So trying to separate them out as two different problems is missing the obvious.

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Floor wax/Desert topping
Posted by: improperly_sedated on Feb 13, 2008 6:01 PM   
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This chicken and the egg thing is getting tedious.

It's about race. It's about class. Anyone who insists that it's one and not the other is just wrong.

Racism is a universal part of the human condition, because there will always be some degree of xenophobia. American Racism is a deliberately constructed system of oppression, and what it was constructed out of was natural xenophobic racism and social class.

In the early days of the English colonies in America, society was brutally oppressive of those at the bottom, who were both European and African. Fearing an uprising, the ruling class created a new set of class distinctions based on race, and we've been living with that color coded class system ever since.

One big problem with having a color coded class system is that people get confused. They think racial issues are class issues, or class issues are racial. Some folks even insist with a straight face that racism doesn't exist, or that we have a classless society.

And that's just how the parasitic fuckers at the top like it. The ultimate wedge issue is still going strong after more than three hundred years, while they sit back and count their blood money.

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Texas Texas Texas..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Feb 13, 2008 7:21 PM   
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Texas..or in jail in Texas..!

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Wow...what a bunch of bunk.
Posted by: Johhny_Wadd on Feb 14, 2008 7:21 AM   
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Way to perpetuate the "Minority Victim Complex".

The reason that a higher percentage of blacks are locked up is really quite simple: a higher percentage of them commit crimes than other groups.

The FBI Compiled Crime Statistics report and other reputable sources routinely indicate that blacks commited crimes on a much higher per capita rate than other ethnic groupings. Moreover, in some sorts of crime the percentage of black criminals is higher in overall numbers rather than per capita. These include murder, sexual assault (especially that of very elderly women with is almost exclusively a black crime), and the overall catagory of inter-racial crime (in which blacks are the perps in about 90% of all cases).

Now before the more paranoid amongst you say "that's no surpise as our justice system is 'racist' " allow me to point out that these statistics are largely confirmed by victim and witness self-reporting studies. (the anecdotal edividence someone game below of a kid who falsely reported a black criminal is meaningless in it's isolation)

What causes this? I have no real clue. But it's certainly not some deep dark conspiracy to keep blacks locked up by *cue scary music* eeevvviiillll raaacists in law enforcement. Other like to blame the large numbers of blacks in poverty. While there is a relation between poverty and crime, this reasoning falls apart when you realise that the disparities between racial group crime statistics remain largely the same even when you adjust to only include the percentage of other groups in poverty. More damning to the "it's the poverty" argument is the fact that the numbers remains the same for non-economicly based crimes such as sexual assault.

The bottom line is that the reason more blacks land in prison is...suprise! They are more likely for whatever reason to commit crimes. It's really that simple and to pretend otherwise only encourages the mindset that is largely behind what racial unrest we have today...the victim complex.

Oh yes and one quick note. Someone below pointed out the "fact" that the majority of prison inmates are "non-violent drug offenders". What he fails to mention is that this is at best a half-truth and at worst a purposely misleading statement that pro-drug types like to point out. The vast majority of those incarcerated for drug related offenses are in for drug related property crimes (ie they were stealing to support a drug habit), are street dealers, or were in pocession of large amounts of drugs with the intent of later distribution. The idea that our prisons are packed with a bunch of harmless kids who happend to have a joint on them is a myth.

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po lil o me
Posted by: jdkd on Feb 26, 2008 5:32 AM   
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complicated issue...lots of opinions...here is mine and sure to get some backlash.
have to agree with those who say...dont do the crime, dont do the time.
yeah life is unfair black or white...not so sure it is all about how much money you make
seems like is all about what you can take...from whomever you can take it from
i work in a city emergency dept...have been there for over 10 years....see more blacks than white...(i am white)...i dont like snooty whites, i dont like snooty blacks....and i dont know who i have the least respect for....but i will ask you this...
how difficult is it to take a bath, dress in clean clothes, take care of yourself and your children...stop acting like slobs and animals, stop acting like the world owes you so much "respect" (black or white)
to me, it is all about attitude and doing what is right, for yourself, your children, your family, your country.
sure i have my own "brand of what is right" as we all do..
my window on the world is a small one and seen thru this venue of healthcare gone wrong...but the "culture" comes out, and it is getting harder to go to work every day and really have to deal with so much abuse and bullmanure when all i would like to be able to do, is take care of the truly sick folks, instead of all the "politically correct" and welfare abuse and insurance abuse that we see. and yes, whitey..i am talking to you too!!
any and all responses will be welcome...i sound biased but really am not...just how can we get some answers to this huge "problem" ??

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