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Butts on Parade: When Roger Clemens Met 60 Minutes' Mike Wallace

By Dave Zirin, AlterNet. Posted January 8, 2008.


Dealing with steroids accusations, Roger Clemens got a taste of the flammable hypocrisy that burns athletes when their careers cross with drugs.
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"The higher you get up on the flagpole, the more your butt shows." Roger Clemens on 60 Minutes 1/6/07

And not since J-Lo's heyday -- or maybe Brad Pitt's rear appearance in Thelma and Louise -- has a butt been so utterly over-analyzed.

We now know that Roger Clemens has a rear end that's seen more needles than Keith Richards' family room. Yet it's what filled the syringes that have the sports-world and the US Congress all atwitter. Last night Clemens tried to sell his anabolic virginity to both 60 Minutes and the great proctologist of American journalism, Mike Wallace. For 15 excruciating on-air minutes, the seven-time Cy Young award winner put himself in Wallace's cross-hairs. He answered questions about Sen. George Mitchell's steroid report and what may or may not have been injected into his Hall of Fame cheeks by his personal trainer Brian McNamee.

The Wallace/Clemens showdown had the hype of a prizefight. But the millions at home didn't see the Mike Wallace who made Vietnam War architect Gen. William Westmoreland cry in his napalm. On Sunday we didn't witness the famed media bulldog, but a chihuahua. If he had looked at the camera and said, "Yo quiero Taco Bell," no one would have blinked. The 89-year-old legend is a regular in Yankee owner George Steinbrenner's owner's box and has called Clemens a friend. On Sunday he seemed to have his own narcotic reaction to the athletic proximity.

Wallace opened the interview by saying, "Roger Clemens is one of the greatest pitchers of all time, no question." Then he called the Rocket, "The hardest working man in throw business." As George Vescey wrote in The New York Times, "[60 Minutes] has made politicians, business leaders, clergy and entertainers squirm, but there is something about athletes that brings out the little kid in normally aggressive interviewers."

In the face of Wallace's timid glow, Clemens was a picture of rumpled, stubble-faced outrage. But his efforts to come off like John Wayne hit all the wrong notes. He started by raising his voice and yelling, "I'm angry!... Twenty-four, twenty-five years Mike. You'd think I'd get an inch of respect. An inch!"

When Wallace asked whether it might be impossible to be that good at Clemens' age, the Rocket responded, "It's not impossible! You do it with hard work!" Wallace then summoned 70 years of journalistic experience and said, "Swear?" And Clemens responded, "Swear!" No pinky swears were deemed necessary.

It's hard to find any love for Roger Clemens. He seems like the kind of guy who would borrow your car without asking and get a DUI. And yet despite all the entitled arrogance, Clemens' performance was a sad train wreck that left me feeling disgusted with the whole sorry scene-and less concerned about steroids than the ongoing politicization and deterioration in the world of sports.

On Sunday we saw that Roger Clemens' ability to throw a baseball doesn't make him a great politician or advocate for his own innocence. He wasn't Bill Clinton speaking smoothly about the pain he caused in his marriage or even Richard Nixon jabbering about Checkers the dog.

Even under Wallace's paternal shelter, Clemens' eyes shifted around the room, sweat glistening on his brow, a near parody of guilt. All we needed was a little chain-smoking to complete the picture.

When Wallace read passages from the Mitchell report, Clemens, in between furious denials, twitched like he was doing the lindy hop on an electric fence.

He tried to play Texas tough-guy, particularly when he spoke about all the injections he endured to play through pain and "go out and perform."

But Clemens was most effective when for a brief moment he dropped the Gary Cooper routine and said simply, "And that's our country, isn't it? Guilty before innocent. That the way our country works now." That's certainly the way it has worked for Barry Bonds over the past several years. It's hard to imagine a world where 60 Minutes would have given Bonds similar treatment and respect, interviewed by a friend for a national audience.

Clemens is now getting a taste -- even if the blow is softened by racist double standards -- of what athletes from Bonds to Martina Hingis to Randy Moss to many others have experienced in recent years: the flammable hypocrisy that torches athletes when their careers cross with drugs, whether recreational or "performance enhancing." We now live in a sports world where human beings are glorified and then destroyed for our collective amusement.

When these modern gladiators take substances to extend their time in fame's embrace or find relief from the suffocating pressure of competition, they are punished. Then Congress comes running, ready to pile an extra coating of political distraction on this already noxious spectacle by trading on the pelts of athletes for cheap votes. The Clemens spectacle was yet another demonstration that we need a more sane way to deal with drugs in sports than turning it into reality TV or congressional fodder. No ifs, ands, or butts.

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Dave Zirin is the author of "What's My Name Fool? Sports and Resistance in the United States." Read more of his work at Edgeofsports.com.

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Wallace never should have done the interview
Posted by: Suzon on Jan 8, 2008 4:00 AM   
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Journalists should, like judges, recuse themselves from any assignment in which they have a strong personal interest.

This is for the protection of the journalist and the profession.

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so what do you expect?
Posted by: aislinnluv on Jan 8, 2008 4:10 AM   
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if athletes weren't routinely offered obscene amounts of money to do what amounts to play, perhaps we wouldn't be seeing this kind of scene over and over. entertainment, no matter what the ilk, is not worth millions. waste collection, recycling - those jobs are worth millions. roger clemens is a greedy has-been and i have no sympathy for him. where was he in support of his fellows, who have suffered far worse abuse at the hands of the press and fans? take a hike, rocket. we don't need or want you.

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Guilty, guilty, guilty
Posted by: davescott on Jan 8, 2008 4:21 AM   
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I have my problems with 60 Minutes, which does too many fluff pieces while Bush & Co loot and plunder. Wouldn't want to offend anyone. But I came away from the Clemens interview thinking that 1) he did it and 2) he talks about butts a whole lot. I didn't think Walllace did a softball interview as you suggest. At this point, it IS a he-said she-said story, though.

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» RE: Guilty, guilty, guilty Posted by: sliver
The Sanctity of the Reporter's Profession
Posted by: johnjmccarthy on Jan 8, 2008 6:04 AM   
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Mike Wallace invited me to New York on August 12, 1971 to discuss the recent decision by the US Army, CIA, DoD, State Department and the friggin' FBI to dismiss charges after an appellate court had determined that "newly found evidence and fraud on the court" mandated overturnig a conviction in a military court-martial for the charge of premeditated murder. This led to the Army's decision to dismiss the charge because "obtaining a conviction at a new trail was highly unlikely".

Immediately, the commanding general of the Army post to which I was then assigned called a general in the Pentagon to whom he announced his decision to dismiss the charge. After a pause, the general in the Pentagon directed the general in whose office I was sitting listening to this conversation, to direct me not to say anything to reporters until after five PM Eastern Time. My general asked why this was necessary and the general in the Pentagon stated that because of his decision, briefings of the CIA, DoD, State Departement, DIA and the Executive Department (Nixon) would be required as "interested agencies".

Wallace had sent me a ticket to board a plane from Indianapolis, Indiana to New York's Kennedy Airport where I was whisked to the Holiday Inn two blocks from CBS headquarters in Manhattan.

I spent four hours with Mike in his basement office that day and six hours the following day. He appeared to be utterly in awe of the information we were discussing. The involvement of the Soviet KGB penetrating Top Secret operations inside and outside of Vietnam in Cambodia, Laos and North Vietnam and the planned overthrow and assassination of Cambodian President Norodom Sihanouk and his assassination directed by CIA, left him speechless. That's not a plus for a person of Wallace's stature. We did discuss the potential of going on "60 Minutes". I had also brought a copy of my Record of Trial which was copied at CBS.

During a lunch break in the CBS cafeteria we bumped into Walter Cronkite and I was introduced. Walter had made mention of myself on the CBS evening news on October 1, 1969 and that, "CBS News has just learned that Captain John McCarthy of Special Forces has been incarcerated in Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas, for two years under similar charges just dismissed against Colonel Rheault and seven other Green Berets accused of murdering an alleged double agent in Vietnam". Five days later the gates at Leavenworth opened for me. Ahhh, The power of the Press.

After our lengthy discussion, Mike left me in his office for two hours while he attended a conference on this matter. Upon returning he referred me to a friend of his at a downtown Manhatten Law Firm that represented personalities. That interview lasted five minutes and I then proceeded to JFK for my return flight knowing full well I had been brushed off.

I never heard another word from Mike. But, in those days, it was later revealed, CIA had access and indeed worked at the facilities of the major networks posing as legitimate reporters, including CBS and found it easy to censor anything relating to the CIA. Much of the information at my trial had been classified Top Secret.

It is easy to conclude that professional intergrity went strait out the window for following up on this matter involving 'national security'. In this manner the CIA was sucessful in quelching any interest Mike Wallace or others at CBS may have wanted to expand upon.

I wonder what Mike would have to say about such matters today. Of course, that may open up the wounds of the 'sanctity' of his profession. And who knows but Mike, it might have even had somethiing to do with his suicide attempts.

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What is up with the attitude?
Posted by: jlramsey on Jan 8, 2008 1:13 PM   
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I think that journalist that were picked on by jocks in school should avoid writing articles or doing interviews with or about them. To say that Roger Clemens seems like the type of guy that would borrow your car with out asking and get a DUI? What kind of a horrible comment is that?

It's hard to find any love for Roger Clemens? Someone isn't a baseball fan are they? Roger Clemens finished out the season for the Red Sox after his mother died. This was the most important person in this mans life and you say he isn't lovable? Only only by a handful of other journalist that weren't let into sports for various reasons or never gave a spit about sports! People might bother to notice that the Roger Clemens Foundation Supports educational, literary, scientific, and religious activities for children. At least he's not like most of the "babies daddy's" athletes. This whole article angered me - so I will end my comments because I agreed to stay within certain guideline to write rebuttals.

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mick3
Posted by: mick3 on Jan 8, 2008 1:24 PM   
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Absurdist comedy. Or rather, tragedy. Does anyone else find it absurd that the daily newspaper devotes at least one entire section to sports and practically nothing to the extremely important matter of governance? Generalissimo Franco, in order to divert Spain's general population from his fascism, promoted sports craze throughout Spain. Worked. Here in the United States of Neotony, sports clutter the minds of most males, leaving no room for critical thought, which is probably good, since nature hates a vacuum. Meanwhile, France, for instance, is populated by mensches who can read something more complex than the sports page.

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As of yet
Posted by: famouspipeliner on Jan 8, 2008 1:48 PM   
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Roger hasn't been found guilty of anything in a court of law. The jury is still out. As for his longevity in pro sports...hey ever heard of Gordie Howe? or George Blanda?
And as for those of you who think this is a minor issue...well that's your opinion.
I happen to think that it has become part of the fascist world's raison d'etre to foment hatred...we shouldn't hate the enemy...the enemy is hate.

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why does anybody...
Posted by: davidg on Jan 11, 2008 1:07 PM   
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give a shit? Alternet.org is now adolescent.org? Get back to real issues.

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» RE: why does anybody... Posted by: MarieL