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Facebook: The New Look of Surveillance

By Ari Melber, The Nation. Posted January 16, 2008.


Facebook's growing dominance reflects a society that is increasingly complacent with spying.

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When one of America's largest electronic surveillance systems was launched in Palo Alto a year ago, it sparked an immediate national uproar. The new system tracked roughly 9 million Americans, broadcasting their photographs and personal information on the Internet; 700,000 web-savvy young people organized online protests in just days. Time declared it "Gen Y's first official revolution," while a Nation blogger lauded students for taking privacy activism to "a mass scale." Yet today, the activism has waned, and the surveillance continues largely unabated.

Generation Y's "revolution" failed partly because young people were getting what they signed up for. All the protesters were members of Facebook, a popular social networking site, which had designed a sweeping "news feed" program to disseminate personal information that users post on their web profiles. Suddenly everything people posted, from photos to their relationship status, was sent to hundreds of other users in a feed of time-stamped updates. People complained that the new system violated their privacy. Facebook argued that it was merely distributing information users had already revealed. The battle -- and Facebook's growing market dominance in the past year -- show how social networking sites are rupturing the traditional conception of privacy and priming a new generation for complacency in a surveillance society. Users can complain, but the information keeps flowing.

Facebook users did not recognize how vulnerable their information was within the site's architecture. The initial protests drew an impressive 8 percent of users, but they quickly subsided after Facebook provided more privacy options. Today the feed is the site's nerve center. Chris Kelly, Facebook's chief privacy officer, said that when he speaks on campuses these days, students approach him to say that while they initially "hated" the feed, now they "can't live without it."

Still, Facebook hit a similar privacy snag in November after it launched Beacon, a "social advertising" program that broadcast users' profile pictures and private activities as advertising bulletins. When a Facebook user bought a product on one of dozens of other websites, for example, the information was sent to Facebook and distributed across the user's network as a "personal" ad. ("Joe Johnson rented Traffic at Blockbuster," for example.) Many users had their pictures and actions morphed into advertisements without their consent, turning private commerce into public endorsements. That could be an illegal appropriation, according to Daniel Solove and William McGeveran, two law professors who specialize in digital privacy and who blogged about the issue.

MoveOn.org formed a Facebook group to demand that Beacon switch to "opt-in" -- a default to protect uninformed users -- and allow people to reject the program in one click. The group drew less than .2 percent of Facebook members, far less than during last year's feed protest, but this time MoveOn helped the protest group press specific reforms, generate critical media attention and even rattle some advertisers, who backtracked on using Beacon.

Facebook buckled, agreeing to make the ads opt-in and allowing people to reject the whole program, for now. Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg apologized to users on the company blog, explaining the problem in the language of the new privacy. "When we first thought of Beacon, our goal was to build a simple product to let people share information across sites with their friends," he wrote. "It had to be lightweight so it wouldn't get in people's way as they browsed the web, but also clear enough so people would be able to easily control what they shared."

Yet both Facebook and its privacy protesters largely operated within the same model of privacy control -- opt-in versus opt-out, sharing versus concealing. The traditional concept of privacy was largely absent from the debate: the premise that what people do on other websites should never be anyone else's business. After all, why would people want to browse the web with "lightweight" surveillance broadcasting their pictures and supposed endorsements of products they happen to buy? And why do people continue to give pictures and personal information to a company that reserves the right to use their photos -- and their very identities -- to sell more advertising, products and market targeting in the future?

Growing up online, young people assume their inner circle knows their business. The "new privacy" is about controlling how many people know -- not if anyone knows. "Information is not private because no one knows it; it is private because the knowing is limited and controlled," argues Danah Boyd, an anthropologist and social-networking expert at the University of California, Berkeley, who studied the feed controversy for a forthcoming article in the journal Convergence. Facebook's Kelly also contends that privacy is shifting from an "absolute right to be let alone" to an emphasis on control. "We don't think [users are] losing privacy as long as there's a control machine and access restrictions," he said in an interview.

The feed rankled because it plucked personal details that previously existed in a social context, limited by visitors' interest in a person, and shattered any sense of concentric circles of control by broadcasting them across wider networks. (Students list hundreds of acquaintances as "Facebook friends," assuming that people they barely know don't check their profiles often.) Boyd compares it to yelling over loud music at a bar, only to find the music has stopped and everyone is staring at you.


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Ari Melber is a regular contributor to The Nation magazine and writer for The Nation's Campaign '08 blog, and a contributing editor at the Personal Democracy Forum. He served as a Legislative Aide in the U.S. Senate and was a national staff member of the 2004 John Kerry Presidential Campaign.

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A lateral approach is reccomended
Posted by: Squarehead on Jan 16, 2008 2:21 AM   
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I offer the thought that rather than rage against these intrusions into privacy, the only way to oppose the spooks is to embrace the fact of electronic surveillance, and come up with a response to it.

I suggest that for many years now, key personal data has been freely shared between government and private financial agencies. It may skirt the bounds, or overstep the bounds, of legality, but they still do it; they know they won't get caught.

And in a world where any discontented individual or group can access arms, chemicals, timing devices; i.e. where they can organise a terror campaign, there will be assent from the majority for surveillance, so that people are protected from this group.

Of course this is hugely open to abuse, and it is so abused (e.g/ the secret service / FBI intrusions mentioned in this article and in several others) BUT the average citizen will dismiss calls for civil liberty protection, when under attack.

The spooks (intelligence agencies) do not want a change in the present situation; they like it fine, no supervision no control OF THEM. Plenty of control of the rest of us.

There was a situation in the EU parliament last year, where the members passed a proposal that telephone records be insisted upon from the telecom companies for up to six months; major resistance by said companies. Think about it.
They have had ECHELON (surveillance project) for ~ 10 years now, no oversight by parliaments.

I suggest we need to recognise this REALITY, and respond laterally by saying "OK you can know anything about me, BUT I want to know anything about YOU. e.g. Where did you (financial company( place your investments last quarter? Why do you (state taxation agency) want to know that about me? Who is the (now lawfully entitled) operative who is checking ME out?

That is to say, It is a reality, we now need an audit trail, to protect civil liberties in the 21st century.

I know MANY are going to find these comments appalling; but what is your alternative? [Remember Chuikov, Stalingrad 1942, 'Embrace the enemy']

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one nation under surveillance
Posted by: vasumurti on Jan 16, 2008 6:56 AM   
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In his 1992 book, Visions of Liberty, former Executive Director of the ACLU, Ira Glasser writes:

"The use of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping emerged during the Prohibition era. Roy Olmstead was a suspected bootlegger whom the government wished to search. It placed taps in the basement of his office building and on wires in the streets near his home. No physical entry into his office or home took place. Olmstead was convicted entirely on the basis of evidence from the wiretaps.

"In his appeal to the Supreme Court, Olmstead argued that the taps were a search conducted without a warrant and without probable cause, and that the evidence seized against him should have been excluded because it was illegally gathered. He also argued that his Fifth Amendment right not to be a witness against himself was violated.

"By a 5-4 vote, the Court rejected his arguments and upheld the government's power to wiretap without limit and without any Fourth Amendment restrictions, on the grounds that no actual physical intrusion had taken place.

"Olmstead's Fifth Amendment claim was also dismissed on the grounds that he had not been compelled to talk on the telephone, but had done so voluntarily. Thus the Court upheld the government's power to do by trickery and surreptitious means what it was not permitted to do honestly and openly. It wasn't until 1967, in a similar case involving gambling, that the Court overruled the Olmstead decision by an 8-1 margin and recognized that the Fourth Amendment applied to wiretapping and electronic surveillance.

"Interestingly, these cases arose in the context of crimes like bootlegging and gambling. During the past twenty years, the majority of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping by both state and federal officials has been in cases involving drug dealing and gambling.

"Serious crimes of violence, such as homicide, assault, rape, robbery, and burglary, are rarely the target of electronic eavesdropping, which is not normally a useful tool in such cases.

"From the beginning, when wiretapping was virtually invented to enforce laws prohibiting the sale of alcohol, to the late 1960s, when gambling was a major target, to the present, when the use and sale of drugs other than alcohol are the main target, these intrusive devices have been used mostly to enforce laws aimed at punishing and proscribing personal conduct that society deems immoral.

"Because such conduct essentially involves private activities among consenting adults who are all likely to want to keep those activities secret, they are harder to investigate and prosecute than crimes like robbery or burglary, in which an unwilling victim will probably aid any investigation...the invasion of privacy inherent in wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping remains with us as part of the legacy of our attempts to criminalize personal conduct.

"The other major use of electronic eavesdropping has been to punish political dissent. For decades, former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover used wiretaps and other electronic devices to spy on political figures and citizens not yet suspected of having committed a crime. He built vast dossiers on their political activities and personal lives. Special units of local police called 'Red Squads' did the same."

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» RE: one nation under surveillance Posted by: wittler youth
» J. Edgar Hoover Posted by: 2dogarage
Time to play the spy game?
Posted by: Richard House on Jan 16, 2008 6:58 AM   
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maybe all Internet users should create multiple covers like spies.

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» RE: Time to play the spy game? Posted by: HistArch
WE ARE BIG BROTHER
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jan 16, 2008 7:32 AM   
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While we all object to government surveillance and intrusion in general, people willingly post personal info about themselves on the web for various harmless reasons. Anyone with time, patience and a little computer knowledge can do their own "data mining". It's all there for everyone to see. And no laws are broken. Young people in particular fail to see the ramifications of advertising themselves. It's turning into a monster. Thanks, ANNA

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MySpace, MyPolitics is subverting the subversion?
Posted by: carlwebb on Jan 16, 2008 7:33 AM   
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What about those of us that take advantage of the transparency of online social networks to spread progressive ideas? The same writer, Ari Melber, that published this story also wrote an article called MySpace, MyPolitics in which he reports how youth are using new media tools to promote activism.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060612/melber

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ex-fb
Posted by: sss4r on Jan 16, 2008 7:52 AM   
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i quit facebook because i decided i didn't want to make it easier for the federal government to spy on me.

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hey
Posted by: formaryjane on Jan 16, 2008 8:22 AM   
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BIG BROTHER IS HERE!!!!

looking back on the days when privacy was everyones responsibility to keep their own, man I'm glad that orwells pipe dream never came true (patriot act) that would be a shame what with all the work we did in the early part of the oh I'd say the last 300 years going to waste. whats next?
this WILL not stop until we grow a pair of balls and act up. america used to be a symbol of strength to the world, whole thing about a bunch of dumb rednecks toppling a world power just so we could have our own little piece of cake. now its more along the lines of "we know your fucking up wherever you are, and now we're gonna watch your ass doing it."
Who the hell gave them that authority? they have absolutely no right telling us what we can do, or how to do it, much less now they're trying to watch us do it in our own home (perverts) if we lose our privacy we might as well change our name from "land of opportunity" to "home of comrade bush"

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» RE: hey Posted by: 2dogarage
"Increasingly complacent"
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Jan 16, 2008 8:48 AM   
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What you do to acclimate a population to big changes and greater control by government is just make the changes and then ignore the complaints. The people will tire and forget the problem sooner or later; eventually they'll just consider the new way of doing things to be normal, and people who disagree with it will be considered trouble makers.

A law could pass tomorrow saying CEOs get to sleep with any new bride on the first night of her marriage. People would complain and make threats. There would even be some action taken in defiance. But if the powers-that-be persisted with this policy, then husbands and wives and society in general would come to see it as normal and just - a proper prerogative of the rich and powerful. This particular example has happened in the past, except not with CEOs.

It goes to show how much dignity people will surrender in the face of unrelenting power. They'll give and give for fear of not fitting in with their whipped and brainwashed peers.

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» RE: "Increasingly complacent" Posted by: VannaLaRoche
What's the big deal?
Posted by: Daniel35 on Jan 16, 2008 9:24 AM   
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I've never seen why people are so concerned about privacy and secrecy. I started a web site about 12 years ago that tells quite a bit about how I think and feel on many subjects. I haven't kept it up, because very few people are attracted to my subjects of interest. How is Facebook, or any of the others, different?If someone wants to list everything they know about me on some database, I would only prefer that they do the same for everyone else, including themselves, and especially starting at the top of our government/business culture. If I'm doing something illegal, I'll naturally take responsibility for keeping it hidden. It's not them getting the info that bothers me, but how they might use it. But they might be using it for "the greater good", and I wouldn't complain about that.

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» RE: What's the big deal? Posted by: SavageDissension
» RE: no ..whats in it for me!l? Posted by: wittler youth
» RE: What's the big deal? Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: What's the big deal? Posted by: rhbee
Paradox Explained
Posted by: SavageDissension on Jan 16, 2008 9:40 AM   
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The article mentioned the disparity between user attitudes towards what they'd prefer private and what they actually share. I can sum up the paradox in the attitudes fairly simply: Young people are sick and tired of being afraid, paranoid, mistrusting and told the world is a scary place that is out to get them.

So f*** it. We'll just trust it and hope for the best, because it's not like there's much choice. Facebook is known to be fairly responsive to user needs when issues truly do arise. Things like the news feed were met with apprehension, but as the article notes, it's now the mainstay of the entire site.

Facebook knows it trades on it's good name and goodwill. It wouldn't risk those or the flood away from the site would swamp this supposed Titanic.

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H.G. Wells would be flabbergasted.
Posted by: Artkansas on Jan 16, 2008 9:45 AM   
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His imagination pales to reality.

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Young people
Posted by: lamar on Jan 16, 2008 1:44 PM   
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Do NOT spy on me!!

[but I'd totally be flattered if you wanted to see my picture and rate it and send around my bulletins and post my mood and tell everybody when I'm online and all that neat stuff]

Young people of today don't understand the point of privacy. They want privacy in the sense that they don't want the government spying on their dope harvest. They don't care about privacy when it comes to their phone conversations, and certainly not when it comes to posting personal information on the internet. Unfortunately, you can't have it both ways. Either you value privacy or you don't.

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IT"S OUR WEB
Posted by: Rshaw on Jan 16, 2008 1:54 PM   
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we can't stand for it

What about the It's OUR WEB! Campaign. What about the http://www.freespeech.org/ourweb

more information about the problem and what you can do here:
Campaign. What about the http://coanews.org/article/2007/our-web-not-theirs


time to tell them it's our web!

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misses the point
Posted by: Rshaw on Jan 16, 2008 2:36 PM   
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this misses the point - the issue not what people can see - it is what Facebook can do with our data, how they can slice it and let marketers manipulate us with. It's about who owns the data us or them. Who cares if people can see your info. The question is who owns it and what can they do with it.

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» RE:who own it Posted by: wittler youth
Guilty as charged
Posted by: Intihuatana on Jan 16, 2008 4:18 PM   
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I think that there really is a disconnect between people's perceived notions of their opinions on privacy and the way that they behave, and this article went a long way toward pointing out my own state of confusion. Why do I have a facebook account when I feel so strongly opposed to the Patriot Act? I'm sure that I can't speak for everyone, but I really do think that it comes down to some kind of fucked up subconscious vanity.

I think that Facebook has benefited from marketing itself as a way to connect people, and to a large extent, getting the media to agree with this notion. However, what I've found is that my friends who use the site, and actually even myself, although I hate to admit it, end up using the site as some kind of vanity mirror, in which we can be the stars of our own virtual world. I would point to the fact that the vast majority of people I know don't really browse through other's profiles all that much. Instead, they spend time uploading tons of repetitive photos, featuring the same people doing the same things at the same places over and over again.

So instead of actually catching up with my friend who I haven't seen in ages, I'm changing my profile picture, and displaying personality test results for everyone to see, and which probably no one really cares about. Some of my most reclusive, non internet savvy friends have even joined and if I care to browse their profile, I am now privileged to know the way in which they pass their reclusive time, doing the same damn things over and over again in different poses, just like everyone else.

I think in the end, Facebook plays on everyone's desire to "Google themselves" and feel, just for a moment, like they are just the least bit significant in the face of the steamrolling media/corporation/GOP machine.

Could this be the real face of the dawning Age of Aquarius which has been so hyped to be the great dawn of social cooperation and enlightenment? I might point out that Aquarius has another, not so attractive side, in which we all end up sitting in our Ivory Towers indulging in our own dreams of societal change and progress, while we become simply another face in the crowd of perceived brotherhood.

Oh sorry, I think another person who I haven't seen in 15 years has joined my "Circle of Friends" Application. Gotta go.

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» RE: Guilty as charged Posted by: VannaLaRoche
Social networking is dangerous
Posted by: Jasonix on Jan 16, 2008 6:30 PM   
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In the last two months, I've received invitations to join Facebook and LinkedIn, and I've decided to take a pass on both. Exposing information about yourself online is dangerous. Even the most innocuous statements can hurt you, or be used to set you up for a scam.

Not only that, but they're time-absorbing. In some networks, you get "rated" by other users - that means that you're going to spend all your time on the Web, on a constant e-mail bender, just to avoid getting a negative rating. And as the article notes, once you're signed on, you can't sign off.

In some other posts, I've read aging radicals complain that younger people don't come out to the anti-war marches. Why not? Well, because we aren't retired already - if anything goes out on the Web that identifies our political views or affiliations, we could find ourselves unemployable, and literally STARVE TO DEATH. Those of us under 60 already live in a de facto totalitarian state, thanks to Google and associated technologies. Those who don't live in a totalitarian state (which in our case are people at or near retirement, and who therefore don't need to worry about being effectively blacklisted by having their name show up in Google with anything that suggests we're anything but hardworking, happy, pro-American capitalists) have no right judging those of us who do.

No matter how normal you think you are, or how law-abiding, no one has a life that they can expose fully to others without incurring damage to their personal and professional lives. What if you're religious? You might find yourself at a job interview with a Sam Harris/Richard Dawkins-toting maniac next week, and he's going to know that you speak in tongues and say the prayer of Jabez. What if you like to paint your face like zombie and go on zombie walks with your friends? Well, your girlfriend's Dad might spot your MySpace page, and ban you from the house, thinking that you're a cannibal nutcase. Like guns and work in a post office? How well do you think THAT's going to go over, once your co-workers spot your Facebook profile?

Anyone who stops to think about it will soon realize that if they're going to use social networking at all, they have to present themselves at all times as if they're presenting themselves to their bosses. That takes all the fun out of it and turns it more into an exercise in paranoia than a way to genuinely relate to people.

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» RE Social networking is Posted by: rhbee
okay, a lateral approach.
Posted by: Coleman on Jan 16, 2008 7:33 PM   
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Good post.

First of all, let's avoid the false dichotomy so common to debates about the dangers of a new technology. Our choice is never between "having Facebook" or "not having Facebook". It should be obvious that this is not up to us. Indeed it is only a matter of time before this extremely efficient technology becomes integrated into our more "base identifiers". When a new child is born, they won't get a birth certificate, they'll get a virtual ID.

And why not? The "potential for abuse" is present with every technology, from the internal combustion engine all the way down to forks.

Ultimately the choice is "how do we use it?". To what end do we apply the great ingenuity of humankind? In the case of Facebook, our current end is rampant consumerism, but the same technology - a public record of individuals easily accessible from remote terminals - could be integrated into, say, a Universal Health Care system, greatly increasing its effectiveness. Or even the Welfare system? We could know who needs help? And what kind of help they need?

The conservative cliché of railing against "inefficient bureaucracy" is already becoming obsolete. Given certain tools, people are willing to work for free on improving networks and technology...people seem committed to this idea of social transparency. I would dispute the author's claim that young Facebook users "aren't aware" that their information is being made public - there have been enough high-grossing, paranoid Hollywood movies to indicate the opposite. Kids know that anyone can search for their information in the internet. What they don't understand is that the corporation who provides this public service would just as soon stab them in the back if it meant making a buck.

Again, the ultimate choice is the same old question regarding any technology: to what end? For corporate profit? Or toward the satisfaction of real human needs? For the performance principle? Or for a more just and less wasteful economy?

The choice is between real democracy and corporate rule.

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Privacy isn’t an all-or-nothing concept!
Posted by: Amy Kyo on Jan 17, 2008 9:43 AM   
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Privacy isn’t an all-or-nothing concept. At its essence, privacy is built on the ability to exercise control over personal information and make informed decisions on who is privy to it. Contrary to the suggestion here, I believe that Facebook’s popularity reflects people’s desire to connect and network with all of us moving fast in every direction. We expect privacy to be baked in. That’s the trigger for the protests over Newsfeed and Beacon. Businesses need to be responsive; users want to control the experience and enforce "best business practices." Right now companies only seem to hear the outcry.

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It's been a long time since there was any real privacy
Posted by: TheLimit on Jan 17, 2008 7:55 PM   
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in this country (the US) - I don't know about other countries, but here there has been no privacy for thirty years or more.

However, the idea that this company can claim ownership of anything I post, including photographs or artwork is another matter - that amounts to theft, pure and simple. When I upload photos there, they ask me if I have a right to post them; they don't mention that in posting them I am giving them away! If they can ask about my right to post them, they can certainly make it clear to me that I am giving them up by so doing.

There have been other public servers (free website spaces) which have taken this tack, or have refused to make any effort to protect their user's rights to materials which were uploaded, and at least some people have refused to use them. I don't understand why it has become acceptable for companies using the web to own everything that passes through their hands (or servers) - this is something we need to fight.

And I can make a pretty good argument that if it wasn't wrong, and if they weren't aware that it was wrong, then they would be willing to say, while they were asking me to verify that I have the right to upload materials I upload, that they are going to usurp my ownership of those materials.

What an outrage.

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