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Beware the Credit-Industrial Complex

By Susan J. Douglas, In These Times. Posted January 7, 2008.


The subprime fiasco is just one example of how banks profit from shady practices.

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My daughter is a freshman in college and is learning a lot, including how to manage her money. Recently, she got a powerful initiation into the predatory practices of banks -- a lesson more and more of us are learning each month. She made a miscalculation and thought she had more in her account than she did. When she went to make a withdrawal from an ATM machine, the bank let her, even though she was in deficit. Comerica bank continued to let her make such withdrawals, and charged her $32 a pop for doing so. A $4 charge at a coffee shop became a $36 charge with the fee. A $6 sandwich became $38. She had never authorized the bank to permit deficit spending. And she, like most people, had no idea that the bank would still let her use her card if she was broke. The bank doesn't tell you it will do this. Why? Because it's a huge source of profit for them.

BusinessWeek reported on a student whose bank, Pittsburgh's PNC, allowed him to charge $230 on his debit card even though his account was in the hole. PNC charged him $217 in fees for the privilege. A PNC spokesperson says such a policy "helps our customers avoid embarrassment." The student said he would rather have been embarrassed than gouged.

In 2004, banks pocketed $32 billion in service fees, up from $21 billion in 1999. According to BusinessWeek, such fees accounted for 76 percent of profits at the Midwestern bank, TCF. Wells Fargo in San Francisco reportedly charges $2 every time someone with a low balance calls a service representative, and a whopping $30 an hour when a rep helps someone reconcile an account. Not surprisingly, the majority of these fees falls upon the poorest customers.

One out of five customers switches banks because he or she is so outraged by these charges. One estimate by Gartner Research shows that it costs banks less than 50 cents to return a payment request, while turning around and charging us anywhere from $25 to $40 for this "service."

The barely regulated banks are getting away with one usurious practice after the next: In addition to the subprime fiasco now threatening the entire economy, there are the extortionate service fees on your bank accounts and the escalating interest fees, late fees and truncated payment cycles on your credit cards. Millions of us now get credit card bills that give us 10 days -- and those aren't 10 business days -- to pay up or get hit with a late fee. No wonder the credit card industry has been one of the most profitable in the country, earning on the order of $30 billion annually. The rates credit card companies charge retailers have gone up 85 percent since 2001, and those are passed onto us.

In 2005, Congress passed the infamous bankruptcy "reform" act after major lobbying by the financial-industrial complex, adding to the enormous pressure many people are feeling from the mortgage-housing-credit crisis. Designed to protect creditors, the law makes it harder and more expensive to declare bankruptcy.

It used to be that people in financial trouble could file under Chapter 7, which typically allowed them to keep their homes while other property was sold off to help cover credit card and medical debts. What pissed off the banks was that, after flooding everyone with offers to acquire even more credit cards, some of this debt would get massively reduced or written off under the old law.

The new law forces people to file under Chapter 13, which requires them to accept a 3- to 5-year repayment plan on all debt. This may lead to even more foreclosures. And for those who still can use Chapter 7, it now costs twice as much to file as it used to. While many conservatives blame individuals for charging and borrowing irresponsibly, one of the major causes of going into such debt are the huge medical bills racked up by those without health insurance.

You also can't renegotiate mortgages in bankruptcy court. Reps. Brad Miller (D-N.C.), Barney Frank (D-Mass.) and others have introduced a bill that would allow bankruptcy courts to do this, but lobbyists for the banking industry are already working to scotch this. As Chris Hayes advocated recently online at The Nation, "the long-term challenge" is to regulate this industry. Hayes also reported that "Blue Dog" Democrats -- the coalition of moderate-to-conservative Dems who vote with Bush Republicans -- urged House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) to delay the Miller-Frank bill. This despite the fact that foreclosure rates continue to zoom, in some places two to four times what they were this time last year.

What the Democrats ought to do during their next trips back to their districts is just ask constituents what they think of their credit card companies, their banks and their mortgage companies. What they might hear is that these are some of the leeches people want pulled off of the body politic immediately.

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Susan J. Douglas is a professor of communications at the University of Michigan and author of "The Mommy Myth: The Idealization of Motherhood and How it Has Undermined Women."

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Credit Card Late Fees
Posted by: vdavis on Jan 7, 2008 12:20 AM   
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If you have late fees, there's a company called CreditCardZappers that will take them off.

They also got an overlimit fee and interest charges taken off my card.

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» Avoid Late Fees- USE CASH Posted by: HistArch
» RE: Avoid Late Fees- USE CASH Posted by: AnnieGrace
"Innovative" financial products ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Jan 7, 2008 12:28 AM   
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The gouging by banks is part and parcel of a new financial service system that is gobbling up America's economy ...

""Yet the fact is that the finance sector has become by far our nation’s largest generator of corporate profits, larger even than the combined profits of our huge energy and health care sectors, and almost three times as much as either manufacturing or information technology.1 Twenty–five years ago, financials accounted for only about 6 percent of the earnings of the 500 giant corporations that compose the Standard & Poor’s 500 Stock Index. Ten years ago, the financial sector share had risen to 20 percent. And last year, the financial sector profits had soared to an all-time high of 27 percent. If we add the earnings of the financial affiliates of our giant manufacturers (think General Electric Capital, for example, or the auto financing arms of General Motors and Ford) to this total, financial earnings now likely exceed 33 percent of the earnings of the S&P 500. While that share may or may not be enough, it seems likely to continue to grow, at least for a while.

We’re moving, or so it seems, to a world where we’re no longer making anything in this country; we’re merely trading pieces of paper, swapping stocks and bonds back and forth with one another, and paying our financial croupiers a veritable fortune. ""

- John C. Bogle, founder, The Vanguard Group

Sadly this is the new America, no new innovative 'real' products just new 'products' designed to fleece consumers and investors.

Your daughter wasn't taken advantage of , she bought a new innovative financial product.

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» Not surprising.... Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
it's the box ....
Posted by: siamdave on Jan 7, 2008 4:09 AM   
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- it really is all about money. If you don't understand it, you don't understand anything, and will never get out of the box. Read. And learn - They're Building a Box - and You're In It - http://www.rudemacedon.ca/dlp/box/box-intro.html

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No Law Against Privately Preated Credit
Posted by: Chaos Inc. on Jan 7, 2008 5:01 AM   
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People need to learn how to discharge debt to the credit bankers in the same form and substance that the debt was created.

A western Pennsylvania woman has in fact discharged 1.3 million of debt with her own privately created credit.

How to do it and for absolute verification of the forgoing fact all you need do is examine the official court records in the matter of U.S.A. vs Jessie M. Snyder, at 2007-cv-0331, United States District Court at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

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Correction
Posted by: Chaos Inc. on Jan 7, 2008 5:33 AM   
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Above title should read.... NO LAW AGAINST PRIVATELY CREATED CREDIT

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"credit industrial complex"
Posted by: astralman on Jan 7, 2008 6:12 AM   
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hilarious title...there is no end to what is dubbed an industrial complex. how about an obvious one like "automobile industrial complex" or "educational industrial complex"

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This problem is as old as the hills
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jan 7, 2008 7:18 AM   
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The problem with predatory banking has been with us since the beginning of the republic. Consider Thomas Jefferson's often quoted statement:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

The issues of bank abuse, both of smaller banks and the central bank has been with us since the beginning and will be with us to the end of the republic. Take a look at Andrew Jackson's fight with the 2nd United States Bank. It's a certainty that Alan Greenspan will have a lot of 'splaining to do when the present crisis is in full swing.

It isn't only the banks that should be questioned but the idiot regulators who only see the problem well after the disaster's in full swing. Selling mortgages was a scheme that could have only invited fraud and abuse.

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Well executed TV.commercial
Posted by: donl51 on Jan 7, 2008 10:00 AM   
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This ones geared for the young adult,old enough to have a credit card,its for teens+ ,anyway ,these young adults in a store dancing and buying to rythem ,I believe cd's dvd's the like ,when the young man whips out pen and check book to pay for purchase ''everything''screeches to a halt and resumes when said teen puts pen/checkbook away to replace w/none other than a ''credit card'' now young people are very gullable ! sorry but fact,this commercial designed by those who I'm certain are happy as poop![ shit ]Hey! It's ok to charge instead of paying by check,which is no doupt ''uncool'',things are getting way out of hand everything but ones wages has skyrocketed and thanks to our esteem elected officials ,they've made it far easier for the banks and far harder for the people,so we must as I do or try my best to ...take resposibility for our own actions!This economy we hear is doing so great[touted by W.Bush& Co. plus Cables FAUX News is based on monies spent[ ON CREDIT ]the economy suks for you and me,and we're stretched to the ends,living paycheck to paycheck!....and we look down at the poorer,like we're so much better!!! shame on us!......PS this isn't new,I'm 63,back when I was in my early 20's the big push was that we all need credit !only then a tad more common sence existed,you had to proove you were credit worthy.Today you need a pulse! I believe

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$230 is a cheap lesson
Posted by: billwald on Jan 7, 2008 11:14 AM   
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$230 in extra bank charges is a cheap lesson for someone who is probably paying $230 a credit hour for schooling. He should have learned more in one day than he will in a semester of classes. Something that his parents should have taught him while he was in junior high.

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Corrupt from the bottom to the top
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jan 7, 2008 11:16 AM   
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Try How Corrupt is Wall Street? Business Week, May 13 2002.

"The damage goes way beyond the tattered reputations of the firms and their beleaguered analysts. The entire economy depends on the financial system to raise and allocate capital. And that financial system, in turn, is built on the integrity of its information. Should investors lose confidence in that information, it could deepen and prolong the bear market, as wary investors hesitate to put money into stocks. And it could easily put a damper on the economy if companies are less willing--or less able--to raise capital on Wall Street. "One of the precious things we have is the integrity of the financial markets. If that changes it could have dramatic repercussions on the dollar, on domestic inflation, on the economy," says Felix G. Rohatyn, former managing director of Lazard Freres & Co."

So, what you have here is bunch of speculators with close ties to government who have more or less destroyed the basic financial system out of short-sighted greed.

Why does this matter? Let's say you want to get off fossil fuels and start building wind turbine factories and solar PV factories to replace all that coal and oil. The capital to do that has to come from somewhere, doesn't it?

There are such things as good banking practices, but the current world is so very far away from those. Banks survive by storing and loaning money. If a 100,000 people deposit $1,000 each, that's a 100 million dollars that the bank can then loan out at a higher interest rate. That capital can be used to construct productive infrastructure, or it can be fed into corrupt Ponzi schemes - and the latter is more common these days. The subprime crisis is just one example.

A good banker is a fiscal conservative, not a Las Vegas junkie.

If you want to see just how rotten the banking system has gotten over the past few decades, try The Washing Machine: How How Money Laundering and Terrorist Financing Soils Us, Nick Kochan

This all ties right into the Republican agenda - Bush's two biggest donors have been Enron and the credit card company, MBNA. He has also pushed the SEC to allow private equity funds to keep the names of their investors secret, and his close ties to the corrupt Saudi Royals and their massive piles of cash (given to them by U.S. gasoline consumers, to be true) might explain why he pushes that agenda.

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technocrat
Posted by: technocrat on Jan 7, 2008 1:49 PM   
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Funny, I keep track of my debit card transactions and have never, never been assessed a surcharge.

Yes, the banking industry is a criminal enterprise to the extreme, but personal responsibility comes into play here as well. Oure is a "kick him while he's down" culture and the banks are ever willing to carry it out. Unfortunately, they are not required to contact us about overdrawn accounts, so a little vigilance is prudent. At the bank that uses me, Bank of America, at any time you can drive up the ATM and request a balance statement.

Since 1933, Technocracy has offered the only way out of the bankers' control over our lives - an abandonment of the financial system in favor of an energy accounting system, in which an equal share of physical production is the irrevocable right of all citizens of North America = no more debt, no more worrying about income, and no more political intrigue over what segment of the population "deserves" more. Check it out, or just pay the man and watch your butt.

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» RE: technocrat Posted by: redceres
» RE: technocrat Posted by: left_libertarian
Blame yourselves- CASH IS KING!
Posted by: HistArch on Jan 7, 2008 2:47 PM   
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Use cash to buy everything except a house. Only carry your debit for emergencies and your credit for extreme emergencies. Always pay off your credit cards in full every month. Create a 3-6 month reserve of savings in cash and a 3-6 month reserve in a CD or money market account that will reinvenst itself every 3 months. All additional savings should be put in a high yielding deep freeze, like a longer term CD or US Treasury Bonds, until you are ready to make planned purchases (car, DVD player, down-payment on a home, college ect.). Minimize expensive purchases because you will have to take care of them, they will mainly depreciate in value, and don't impress anyone that is already your friend (if you friends only care about stuff then you need to invest in new friends). Stuff never makes people happy for long.

People like to blame others for their misfortunes especially when they get shafted by "The Man." But they all to often forget that they are the reason "The Man" exists. By spending more than you can afford you are essentially a slave. Everyone's goal in life should be to amass enough income from investments to live without having to work. Then we can spend time working on the real problems with society and help each other all the time. This concept is ancient but appears profound in currrent times.

To learn more, check out the books:

Radical Simplicity
Your Money or Your Life
Die Broke

Read these and build your own escape plan. Human beings get meaning from work that means something. You can't do that if you are stuck going to work for someone else's gain 50 hours a week and worrying about your consumer=citizen lifestyle. In order to free yourself you need to stop working for others and start working for yourself.

I have only been at this for one year, but these ideas have changed my outlook on life.

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PNC Bank is the worst!
Posted by: atka on Jan 7, 2008 5:57 PM   
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Similar thing happened to me a couple years ago at PNC. I normally keep track of all expenses and pay off my credit cards in full, but for some reason I wrote 3 checks, each for $30-40, and they cleared before my direct deposit hit the checking account. I had 3 $180 'overdraft' fees slammed. I complained to the bank manager, especially as I had over $10K in a savings account at the same branch. I was told I never signed up for overdraft protection (which I did), had two of those charges refunded and I asked to make sure that I am protected for any future situation like that.
A year later it happened again. This time they didn't refund the fees, and told me the previous manager never updated my account for overdraft protection. I took my business to Bank of America the next day. I even wrote to the president of PNC, never heard back. I suspected that this is the banks' way of making huge profits but didn't realize how widespread this practice is. Sheesh!

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Suckers
Posted by: kungfoofighterx on Jan 8, 2008 12:36 PM   
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I havent touched a bank in years. I use a credit union because the people who use it own it. I could not imagine putting money in a bank. They are for suckers. My credit union makes it hard to be charged a fee for something. They also work with other credit unions to make ATMs accessible without a fee all over the place. They also have all kinds of free classes and are always happy to help with about anything.
Shop around if you must use a bank. Banks are for suckers. Dont get big bank credit cards either. Get credit cards that are designed to avoid fees not sneak them in everywhere. These are usually the plain kinds without any special points or other stuff.

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Beware the Credit-Industrial Complex - So what are we going to do about it
Posted by: veterantoo on Jan 9, 2008 6:37 PM   
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Professor Douglas - I appreciated your article. I am a "Mommy" too and I have striven to teach personal responsibility to my children. However there are predators and CON men out there (some institutional) that have become more pervasive over the years. I have only skimmed over some of the comments to your article and find it interesting that some of the posters pin the responsibility on the young person in question. Come on. I don't think I got my first credit card until I was already graduated from College and had my first job. I now get 4 or 5 credit offers in the mail each week - going on for years. This is commonplace and handed out like candy. I bought a shredder specifically for the mail assault that has besieged us.

Also, I am a mortgage professional. I stress professional - I do not sell product that I do not believe is in the best interest of the consumer, despite the income potential. I'm disgusted by what I have seen go on in this industry over the past seven years. It is in shambles on all fronts.

I have been following an interesting thread for the past six months that has chronicled the credit crisis and there is much discussion regarding who is to blame for this mess that we are in - how I happened to your article. I read it and thought - "OK, so what are we going to do about this?" Have you thought about that??? Your article is great, but truly, what are we going to do about this? Our elected officials do not seem to know what is truly important to their constituents. Interesting that there is hardly a peep on any major news channel. I e-mailed Bill O'Reilly a few days ago and not a peep - again, interesting.

I have been thinking for the past three years that I would like to begin reaching out to this Country's higher education institutions to teach our future leaders the ins and outs of financial responsibility. This might not have been a necessity in our schools in 1965, but it certainly is today.

Thanks - any of your thoughts are appreciated.

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World Trade
Posted by: CinemActivist on Jan 10, 2008 6:54 PM   
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I've noticed a lot of people are talking about money and the economy right now, but not world trade and the world bank. I just saw this film called "Caravan/Prague" about a group of bicyclists who travel to Prague to stop an IMF meeting. I'm surprised that this sort of thing isn't being talked about much in this election.
You can check it out here: CaravanPrague.com

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Try this to get back at the banks....
Posted by: Smiggsy on Jan 11, 2008 8:47 AM   
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After reading the above comment about credit card offers in the mail & shredding them, try this method next time instead:

Take out the self addressed "no stamp required" envelope provided inside & send it back to the bank either as:
- a sealed empty envelope;
- the application form not filled out;
- the whole contents of the credit offer plus outside envelope you opened;
- with a few chewing gum wrappers inside
- a banana peel, other rubbish, etc.

The banks pay the postal service for each self addressed envelope returned regardless of whats inside & then pay someone to open them.

hilarious

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getting "value"
Posted by: mont on Jan 12, 2008 5:26 PM   
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If we think about and cherish what we own then we get "value"and if we plow through plastic junk we feel hollow. A huge, aching sensation is ever present in our society. Credit card enslavement is usually predicated on foolish purchases and predatory lending. THEY and our own foolishness keep us enslaved. I live simply in an adobe house I built room by room from cash flow and invested only in gold and silver. My vehicle is a 1985 toyota truck that runs as good as ever and gets 28 miles to the gallon but, alas, there is no new smell to the upholstery.

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