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We Forget What It Was Really Like Under the Clintons

By David Morris, AlterNet. Posted January 7, 2008.


NAFTA failures; deregulation of banking and ENRON's rise; "Welfare Reform" that led to more poor people. This and more is what the Clintons gave us.
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Twelve days before the Iowa caucuses, the New York Times Magazine cover, in large white letters on a deep black background, carried the single word title of its lead article: Clintonism. In the article Matt Bai, the Times reporter on all things Democratic, with a big D, made one undeniable assertion and two highly debatable ones.

Bai's contention that Bill Clinton's "wife's fortunes are bound up with his, and vice versa" is incontestable. The primaries and even more so the general election, if Hillary is the nominee, will be a referendum less on Hillary than on Clintonism, the philosophy and strategy that guided the White House for eight years. Hillary clearly welcomes such a prospect, as demonstrated by her constantly reminding voters that she was "deeply involved in being part of the Clinton team."

Bai's much more problematic assertions involve his evaluation of the nature and impact of Clintonism. Bai begins by mocking "Clinton's critics on the left" for displaying "a stunning lack of historical perspective." Yet it is Bai, who demonstrates a remarkable lack of historical knowledge, a dangerous shortcoming for a reporter with his portfolio.

The most glaring example is Bai's bizarre assertion that Clinton "almost single-handedly pulled the Democratic Party back from its slide into irrelevance." The historical fact is that when Clinton took office, the Democratic Party controlled both houses of Congress and a majority of state governorships. By the time he left office, the Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress and two-thirds of the governorships. By the numbers, it was Clintonism that relegated the Democratic Party to the shadows.

Bai's other dubious assertions is that Clintonism was good not only for the Democratic Party but for the nation as well. He applauds Clinton's "courage, at the end of the Reagan era, to argue inside the Democratic Party that the liberal orthodoxies of the New Deal and the Great Society, as well as the culture of the anti-war and civil rights movements, had become excessive and inflexible. Not only were Democratic attitudes toward government electorally problematic, Clinton argued; they were just plain wrong for the time."

But then, astonishingly, in his 7,000-word piece, Bai does not describe the many legislative initiatives Clinton undertook to reverse the New Deal and the Great Society.

Clinton himself summed up the principle guiding his initiatives in his famous declaration, "The era of big government is over."

The Telecommunications Act of 1996 was the first major overhaul of United States telecommunications law in nearly 62 years. The broadcasting industry couldn't get the legislation through under Reagan or George H.W. Bush, but it succeeded under Clinton. The day he signed the bill into law, Clinton boasted, "Landmark legislation fulfills my administration's promise to reform our telecommunications laws in a manner that leads to competition and private investment, promotes universal service and provides for flexible government regulation."

The Act removed the legal barriers to local and long distance phone companies acquiring each other. The results were immediate and massive. In 1996 there were eight major U.S. companies providing local telephone service and five significant long-distance companies. By 1999, these 13 companies had merged into five telecommunications giants, in a series of record-breaking merger deals.

Prior to this law, tightly regulated broadcasters could own just 40 stations nationally, and only two in a given market. Suddenly, without the FCC's input or any public hearings, ownership limits on radio stations was eliminated and a feeding frenzy took place.

By 2001, there were 10,000 radio station transactions worth approximately $100 billion. As a result, 1,100 fewer station owners were in the business, down nearly 30 percent since 1996. Two companies -- Clear Channel and Viacom's Infinity Broadcasting -- controlled one-third of all radio advertising revenue; in some individual markets their stations commanded nearly 90 percent of the ad dollars. Clear Channel alone owned nearly 1,200 stations, the result of buying up 70 separate broadcast companies.

In 1999, the Financial Services Modernization Act overturned the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. The Act effectively barred banks, brokerages and insurance companies from entering each others' industries, and separated investment banking and commercial banking. The law was enacted in response to revelations of gross corruption and manipulation of the market by giant banking houses that organized huge corporate mergers for their own profit, leading to the collapse of the stock market in 1929.

The Wall Street Journal celebrated the agreement to end such restrictions with an editorial declaring that the banks had been unfairly scapegoated for the Great Depression. The headline of one Journal article declared, "Finally, 1929 Begins to Fade."


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David Morris is co-founder and vice president of the Institute for Local Self Reliance in Minneapolis, Minn., and director of its New Rules project.

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Not Just Clinton
Posted by: pdxstudent on Jan 7, 2008 12:40 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
"He applauds Clinton's 'courage, at the end of the Reagan era, to argue inside the Democratic Party that the liberal orthodoxies of the New Deal and the Great Society, as well as the culture of the anti-war and civil rights movements, had become excessive and inflexible. Not only were Democratic attitudes toward government electorally problematic, Clinton argued; they were just plain wrong for the time."

It was also a bunch of the people who voted him in and the Democrats out during his two terms. If Clinton wins the nomination, it will because of a mixture of those who want her and what she stands for and others not grown up enough to just say no. Insofar as Obama is a neoliberal like Clinton, the same stands for those who would vote for him. I don't really know about Edwards anymore, but his shaping up demands even closer scrutiny. At any rate, we are not just fighting the Republicans and the neocons, but large parts of the Democratic party and their attendant neoliberalism.

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» VOTE KUCINICH... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
» RE: VOTE KUCINICH... Posted by: sliver
» What You Mean "We", White Man? Posted by: Sparks56
» What's the Alternative? Posted by: pdxstudent
» RE: Not Just Clinton Posted by: PAH
» Discover KUCINICH, as did I... Posted by: mohican_nation
Bill Clinton : Wal Mart Democrat ... Killer of Children ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Jan 7, 2008 12:47 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Let us not forget Clinton's WTO membership for China ... Wal Mart certainly remembers ...

"The Chinese and U.S. governments released a press communique on the signing of a bilateral agreement concerning China's entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO) in Beijing on the afternoon of November 15, 1999."

Then there was an embargo on Iraq that cost the lives of 500,000 children ...

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright:" I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

What does Hillary say about all this ?

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» It Takes Out A Village! Posted by: wagadog
» Half million children?? Posted by: gellero
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» RE: Half million children?? Posted by: mmacauley
The Laws of Relativity
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 7, 2008 1:15 AM   
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Bill Clinton does look pretty good next to the two Bushes, which is not saying much, and Hillary is shamelessly riding on her husband's fraying coattails. Both of them are neocon lite, and her ties to corporate interests and hawkish foreign policy justify the beating she took in Iowa. If America is looking for change, they won't find it with her. She talks about her competence, but what evidence is there for such assertions? Monica Lewinsky might as well run.

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» The self-made Clintons Posted by: kww355
» RE: The Laws of Relativity Posted by: Lauren
» RE: The Laws of Relativity Posted by: Lauren
» Never alone!!! Posted by: garry minor
» RE: That is irrelevant... Posted by: jimidee
Your Name Here
Posted by: HeKnew on Jan 7, 2008 2:59 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Both Clintons are stealth Republicans.

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» RE: Your Name Here Posted by: oakport
» RE: Difficult to know Posted by: nightgaunt
» RE: Your Name Here Posted by: Bibsi
Clintons, BushCo & the rest = Circus Performers
Posted by: LookOut on Jan 7, 2008 3:26 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The “neo-con lite” and “stealth republican” monikers for the Clinton camp on this thread are amusing but a bit of a red herring. Both parties at Washington are glorified play actors rather like good cop / bad cop in a bad high school play.

Keep the suckers on the plantation and keep them in the dark via corrupt MSM and “education”. It’s three-card monty.

Real monopoly Fascist power falls to those that run illegal private central banking, Big Oil, Big MSM, etc, and therefore western nations dominated by such.

Billary, village idiot Bush and the rest are groomed actors assigned temp MSM stage parts. The quote below by Clinton is hardly an exaggeration. Slick Willie’s reference to “someone else” refers to freeload robber baron oligarchs that never left power...


“You know, by the time you become the leader of a country, someone else makes all the decisions.”
President Bill Clinton (in answer to impeachment over a sexual incident. 9/4/1998)

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» Bill Hicks said it all Posted by: littlemanintheboat
» RE: Bill Hicks said it all Posted by: nochicagoboys
the biggest issue and the one which gives an overarching explanation of all our ills
Posted by: Suzon on Jan 7, 2008 4:01 AM   
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is the corporate takeover of the American government.

Edwards, disadvantaged financially by his refusal to take corporate donations, is leading the field on that. Take away their big corporate bucks and where would Obama and Clinton be today?

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» RE: the biggest issue Posted by: Lauren
Democrats knew what they were getting
Posted by: anothername on Jan 7, 2008 4:08 AM   
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Wow, I actually have a thank you for a compact summary on AlterNet. Now I would like to see an overview of the Clinton years that includes the excitement surrounding his 1992 election and the less thrilling, but still eagerly-anticipated 1996 re-election.

In 1992, Democrats made a conscious choice to go with a politician slanted at an ever-increasing angle towards large business in order to win the White House. I still think the best assessment of the 1990's and the change in the Democratic Party comes from an article in the Minneapolis City Pages after Paul Wellstone’s death. The writer noted that Fritz Mondale had to be pulled out of retirement to run for the senate because Wellstone did not build the party in his state. Indeed, Wellstone’s priority of off-shore issues, such as U.S. troops in Columbia, trumped the domestic needs of his constituents while it drew praise from party leaders.

The Democratic Party academics and other party members with relatively secure jobs were excited about cleaning up Reagan’s “Communist behind every bush” foreign policy. Meanwhile, those on welfare, the working class that was becoming the working poor, and people concerned about loss of civil rights and freedom (long before Sept. 11, 2001) were ignored.

I lost interest in the current crop of presidential candidates months ago. No matter who wins, I’m still not going to have decent public transportation. I’m still not going to have options for good jobs or an economic plan that looks at anybody other than the young people. I’m still not going to have health care, even though I may be forced to buy health insurance. I’m still not going to have recycling because local programs only reward homeowners in many cities. I divorced the Democratic Party after almost a decade of being ignored, and in some cases being told point-blank by staff and elected officials that my concerns, such as opposition to the Real ID Act, were not important to them.

In 2000, I heard much about people voting for Geo. W. Bush because he seemed likeable, unlike Gore. I heard in 2004 that people went with Bush because people wanted him as a neighbor, unlike Kerry. I heard between 2000 and 2008 that people realized they weren’t voting for a drinking buddy, they were voting for a president. Yet, here we are in 2008 and we’re talking about how friendly Obama is and how uptight Clinton is.

The day after the 2004 general election, I read and heard many comments from people lamenting that they ignored the issues. Since I went into debt trying to push issues, I was not pleased with the post-election insights. Yet, here we are in 2008 and issues are nowhere in sight except as the broadest banners hung as a backdrop.

Heck, I don’t even know where the Democratic candidates stand on the issue of abortion. Do they favor limits on methods, limits in the second or third trimester? Do they favor parental notification, and then of one or both parents? What about aiding travel across state lines, including just loaning money? What about paying for abortion by the military? What about the entire family planning policy, both domestically and overseas? I must admit, until now, I had just assumed that the candidates even supported keeping abortion legal.

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Get real.
Posted by: davescott on Jan 7, 2008 4:17 AM   
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"By the numbers, it was Clintonism that relegated the Democratic Party to the shadows." This is one of the silliest statements I've ever read on a blog. The 1994 realignment was coming a long time before Bill Clinton, as Southern states finally purged Dem officials who represented a party that is not viable in the South (and you dont want it to be, believe me). If anything, it was two of Clinton's most laudable efforts -- national health care and an effort to protect gays in the military -- that cost Dems the most in the South in 1994. What this writer ignores are cold facts about the US electorate. Clinton is the ONLY Dem candidate since FDR to win back to back elections. Prior to Clinton, Dems had won only ONE presidential election since 1964, and that was Carter's fluke win after Watergate. Writers like this one invent a non-exisistent progressive American majority and then blast Bill Clinton for not trying to appeal to it. The truth is that Clinton's wins prevented Newt and Co from doing a lot more damage than they did, and his court appointees are the only sane judgees we've got left.

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» RE: Get real. Posted by: hcb1975
» RE: Get real. Posted by: Lauren
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» RE: TRUE! Posted by: jimidee
A much-needed retrospective
Posted by: scheherezade on Jan 7, 2008 5:28 AM   
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It's about time somebody pulled this stuff together for a newspaper review.

Let us also not forget the great strides the Clinton administration made in destroying the military through various 'privatization' efforts.

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The Evolution of Democracy
Posted by: craigandrew on Jan 7, 2008 5:33 AM   
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The first electric computers were the size of buses. They were huge things with vacuum tubes and greased wheels, and would take days and truck loads of punch-cards to process even the simplest of calculations. They were awkward, cumbersome, and broke down easy and often. However, people persisted over the decades and now we have these handy little computers that we can carry around with us that can do the most amazing calculations in a fraction of a second without the need of any punch-cards or grease guns.

At its best, democracy is a computer that processes and calculates the data that is the publics' will. It is my opinion that our current democracies is one of the first and has shown itself to be too large, clunky and inefficient. I do not wish to give up on democracy; I would rather see if we can't move a step towards making it sleek and effective as a laptop.

The Next Democracy

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Bill paved the way for W and his ilk
Posted by: surfreality on Jan 7, 2008 5:49 AM   
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Remember the outrage over the White House sleep overs? That turned out to be small potatoes...
When the republicans took over congress Tom "The Hammer" Delay started the pay to play K Street scheme.
Once W was in office, corporate interests rewrote the laws and passed new regulations for energy, media and health care. All in secret.
I agree with the comment above:
"The overarching explanation of all our ills
is the corporate takeover of the American government."
America was already rolling down that path when Clinton was elected, but he certainly accelerated that unfortunate process.
Now we have a major corporate contractor, KBR, accused of kidnapping, obstruction of justice and covering up rape. And even though congress has held hearings on said matters there is no investigation on any level by the Feds.
What does that tell you about who runs the show?

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Neighbor
Posted by: Neighbor on Jan 7, 2008 5:59 AM   
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We need John Edwards. That he's still in the hunt with all of the money spent against him tells us that his message is getting through. It did in Iowa even when C. and O. each spent $20 million against his $4 million. I just hope there is still time for his programs and his courage as a fighter in the sense of Teddy Roosevelt or FDR to resonate in N.H., too. E. is the only candidate I know of who has written down his positions in an 80 pg. booklet, so we can know what they are, no matter what some might say they are. He is consistent, he doesn't waffle and he is the only true progressive who is a viable candidate. Kucinich just isn't. I'm from Illinois, and how I would like to support the 1st woman candidate who is a native of Illinois...or the 1st Black who lives there now. But, it's just not possible. Both have way too much to overcome to be elected, and it is crucial that we elect a Democrat. If you have time, please read Edwards' book, Four Trials, to learn more about him or the recent Newsweek where he is called "The Sleeper." It is no wonder that several of his former clients are on the campaign trail for him now. He fought for his clients over 20 years with the same tenaciousness and smarts that he is now showing in the campaign. He had 700 volunteers with him to help after Katrina when our government failed yet again so miserably. He's a smart man who remembers those who came before him, who remembers he was too poor to go to Clemson but graduated from N.C. State and UNC law school and started then to give his best to try to make things better. He worked for that in the Senate, too, with John McCain and Ted Kennedy to get the Patient's Bill of Rights through the Senate...altho Bush stopped it as he has so many substantive progressive programs. Please do learn more about John Edwards and then vote for him to give him a chance to do for us. He wears well...as we say in Raleigh, N.C., where I've lived for many years now.

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» RE: Neighbor Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Neighbor Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: No he isn't Posted by: nightgaunt
» RE: No he isn't Posted by: left_libertarian
Historical Memory?
Posted by: lamar on Jan 7, 2008 6:15 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This article is a bit of revisionist history, now ain't it? Bill Clinton was the liberal from Arkansas until the 1996 GOP revolution. That's when the country, not one man in the White House, made clear its rightward lurch. And it was the bible thumping, corporations-at-all-cost right wingers who we voted in.

Blame it on Clinton all you want. What it comes down to is a failure to beat right wing candidates on a state by state, seat by seat basis. The Democrats have taken some of that momentum back and will likely get the presidency. Success breeds success, Dems. Faulty historical memories do not.

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» RE: Historical Memory? Posted by: lifeaholic
» RE: Historical Memory? Posted by: lamar
» RE: Historical Memory? Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Historical Memory? Posted by: lamar
» RE: Historical Memory? Posted by: fraterm
PRAISE CLINTON
Posted by: lifeaholic on Jan 7, 2008 6:33 AM   
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Stop nitpicking MOOGUMBOO--NEWT's $110,000,000 spent (per gao) trying to destroy Clinton ws enough.
NAFTA--good intentions unintended consequences.None of you smear agents point out consequences of PESO tanking.

READ TRUTHS--
PRAISE CLINTON AND GORE WITH PLEASURE
GDP--rose from 6,300 to 11,600
NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion--
JOBS CREATED—237,000 per month to replace Jimmy Carter record of 218,000.
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that mark 4 times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to as low as 3.9%
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high (no big deal most can say this-except Reagan)
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+28%---300% increase over prior 12 years by Conservatives.
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%---+80% under Reagan- who is da true conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE—3,500 to 11,720 top in 2000. All it's history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000 top in 2000.---All of it's history to get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings in history during peacetime in AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE . Even 98.5% in Moscow--left office with Highest Gallup rating since it was started in 1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations and caught one very evil man who took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS—“Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance, ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great leader of the world. Amen”.
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.
clarence swinney-political historian-Lifeaholics of America- burlington nc
clarenceswinney@bellsouth.net
6-28-03

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SMEARATHON Go David Morris
Posted by: lifeaholic on Jan 7, 2008 6:40 AM   
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CLINTON TERRORISM
CLINTON ANTI-TERROR————Terrorists Attacks Stopped, under Clinton, by Richard Clarke

1.Millennium hi-jack and bombing plots
2.Plot to kill the Pope
3.Plot to blow up 12 US Jetliners simultaneously
4.To blow up UN Headquarters
5.To blow up FBIHeadquarters
6.Blow up Israeli Embassy in Washington
7.Blow up Boston Airport
8.Blow up Lincoln Tunnel and Holland Tunnel
9.Blow up George Washington Bridge
10.Blow up U.S. Embassy in Albania

Brought perpetrators of first World Center bombing and CIA Killings to justice.
Did not blame Bush I for first World Trade Center Bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office.
Formed Hart-Rudman Commission –report put on Bush desk 1-31-01 Nothing happened.
Send legislation to Congress to “tighten Airport Security” It was defeated by Republicans because of opposition from the airlines. “secure cockpits”.
Sent Legislation to Congress to add Tangents to explosives to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. Republicans defeated it because of NRA opposition.
Increased the Military Budget by 14%.
Tripled the Budget of the FBI for CounterTerrorism .
Doubled overall funding for CounterTerrorism
Detected and destroyed Al Qaeda Cells in over 20 countries.
Robert Oakley-Reagan Ambassador for CounterTerrorism “Overall, I give Clinton Very High Marks and the only criticism I have is the obsession with Osama Bin Laden.”
Paul Bremer believed Bill Clinton had “correctly focused on Bin Laden.”

Bart Gellman—Washington Post–“By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him and was the “first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort”.

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» RE: SMEARATHON Go David Morris Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: If we were at Red level... Posted by: nightgaunt
Why the Clinton hating all of a sudden?
Posted by: warriornation on Jan 7, 2008 6:51 AM   
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Clinton was not the best President in the world, but who would you guys have rather voted for at the time? He was the best choice. Plus, compare him to Bush I, Bush II, and Reagan. He is a much more competent President than those three. He helped the country in a lot of ways and a lot of people miss the Clinton era.

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» From Clinton to this Posted by: lifeaholic
» RE: No hate just the facts... Posted by: nightgaunt
PRAISE CLINTON WITH TRUTH
Posted by: lifeaholic on Jan 7, 2008 6:55 AM   
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Many like David Morris are Smearathugs like Newt's $110,000,000 trying to destroy an administration.

President Clinton had --ONE--ONE if you can read--name more than one member of his administration CONVICTED of a FELONY committed while WORKING FOR President Clinton. Evil man took $12,000 worth of trips to ball games. Shame.

I will not list the 137 Reagan members charged with crimes usually from fraud.

Also, I challenge Smearathug Morris to list one lie Bill Clinton told us on POLICY.

Try me.

Yes! Hindsight can criticize many things. Intent. What was intent? Iraq Invasion. Intent?Unintended consequences?

99% Perfect= Clinton Clean as Ivory Soap.

clarenceswinney@bellsouth.net

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If you're waiting on a President who will fix all your problems...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jan 7, 2008 6:58 AM   
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...try putting a tooth under your pillow instead.

Much of the economic prosperity brought about under the Clinton administration was due to large degree of deadlock between the executive and legislative branches. This offers at least correlative evidence that the less government re-gifts us with using our own resources, the better the average citizen fares.

Contrast the relative prosperity we enjoyed under deadlock with what occurred during the six years of aligned goals between the president and congress: I'll sign your pork, you pass my tax cuts, and we'll print money and start a perpetual war unrelated to national defense. Ah, unholy togetherness.

Of course, some of foot-dragging on non-obvious government initiatives such as piling up dirt to separate a giant cereal bowl-shaped, densely populated plot of land from large bodies of water can be deadly if neglected.

Wait, nevermind...priorities, folks, priorities! Let's build a giant southern fence instead of these silly things called levees. My (hypothetical) brother in law makes chain-link for a living...and he could also use a visit by the magical, gift-bearing federal toothfairy.

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» Indeed... Posted by: ABetterFuture
Thanks
Posted by: dayenta on Jan 7, 2008 6:59 AM   
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Mr. Morris, Thanks for this article. It's going out to everyone on my list. The Era of Saint Ronnie never ended. We are still in it, very much to the detriment of this country.

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DAVID
Posted by: lifeaholic on Jan 7, 2008 7:02 AM   
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Limbaugh- Morris

Brothers?

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But if You Wear a Hat
Posted by: jim_altman on Jan 7, 2008 7:18 AM   
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Mr. Morris has a point, but if he wears a hat maybe no one will notice.

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SWINNEY BIG BIG GOOF
Posted by: lifeaholic on Jan 7, 2008 7:21 AM   
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APOLOGY TO DAVID MORRIS.
David Morris on Clinton record in Alternet today.
Unfortunately, I did not read entire article before I started Smearing David.

When I pulled up to Print I read all.

I apologize.

Nonetheless, David printed good intent and unintended consequences.

He did not address success of Nafta prior to Peso tanking.

Telecommunications Big Big Goof by Clinton.

For each that turned out poor I can name many good ones.

Perfect. No. GREAT? Yes.

google clarence swinney + clinton

I strive to be honest but I am only 99.9% pure Yo ho ME dumbo.

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liam99
Posted by: liam99 on Jan 7, 2008 7:55 AM   
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Excellent article. I wish everyone voting in the New Hampshire primary tomorrow could read this first. I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 but voted third party in 1996 after he signed NAFTA. He did constantly back down everytime the right strongly objected to any proposal, which i couldn't understand because they hated him and would never vote for him or any other Democrats no matter what he did. And the main reason he won in 1992 was not only the poor economic performance of Bush1, but primarily the entrance in the race of Ross Perot, who sucked millions of votes from Bush. This idea that the country is center-right is wrong. I would bet that a nationwide blind poll on the position of all candidates would show Dennis Kucinich the clear winner. But corporate media has inform us he can't win. Hmm, i wonder if that still would be true if we all voted for him?

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Clinton = NAFTA/Media Consolidation = Corporatocracy
Posted by: haystack1317 on Jan 7, 2008 7:59 AM   
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There are plenty of people still fooled and charmed by the Clinton charisma. He has the ability to make you feel like he's on your side, regardless of what he's really doing, and he's smart enough to make it feel like his positions are inevitable. I considered myself a big fan until I started paying attention. During the 1990s it felt wonderful to have someone who seemed like a peer in the White House. But in looking closely, Clinton simply continued the process of pushing the debate further to the right to where today anyone challenging the inevitability of the free trade corporatocracy appears radical.

The bottom line is that Globalization is exactly what the name implies -- a transfer of wealth and power from nations to multinationals with allegiance to no specific country (Halliburton just moved its headquarters to Dubai, for Christ's sake.) Why on earth would anyone support a force that puts corporations above the laws of his or her country? Clinton had a very, very large part, with his brains and his charms and his professed caring for the working class, in convincing America that free trade and globalization were inevitable and ideal. America is rejecting that now as they watch Hillary attempt to turn back the clock.

The Clinton years were one of the steps that led us to where we are today, undoubtedly. They were not a swinging of the pendulum to the left but a slight slowing down in the pendulum's swing to the right. Try to find some independent media anywhere besides the internet and tell me he was good for democracy.

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Ever wonder why Clinton did nothing to change the War On Drugs?
Posted by: TarryFaster on Jan 7, 2008 8:23 AM   
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Just plug the two words, Clinton Mena (w/o quotes) into Google! If you follow the links, you will discover how the "Clinton drug use" actually leads back into, The Bush Crime Family.

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Who's the better Republican?
Posted by: warrior woman on Jan 7, 2008 9:15 AM   
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That's the question. We have discussed "moderate" Republicans which connotes to those who are "socially liberal". This is bull for there are only 2 issues that are discussed regarding social policy, abortion and gays. It's clear that there is more at stake than only these 2 social issues, jobs, the economy, civil liberties, the Constitution, education, etc etc. Even the moderate Republicans are not really in favor of building upon the promises of education or understand the issues related to our losses of civil liberties or the rewards that the judiciary and legislatures grant corporations.

Don't let the Republican ways of the Clinton group sway you their way. The only thing that we might get to keep is Roe V. Wade, there will be little else left.

Remember who is crafting the polling information in the news today. Recall also who is the biggest threat to Clinton, it's not Obama, it's Edwards (sorry Dennis). Don't fall for the propaganda when it's time for your caucus.

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So you say you're unhappy with Bill as President?
Posted by: Sojourner on Jan 7, 2008 9:16 AM   
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You think he could have stopped the GOP congresses he had to work with if only he had thrown himself on the Demo's funeral pyre?

The fact that Gingrich was willing to actually shut down the government gives you no indication of what it was like to live amid the craziest crazies of the age?

And I'll bet you think Bill waited too long to go into Bosnia. He shoulda done it sooner, right? Like he shoulda vetoed NAFTA for a third time? Twice wasn't good enough for you.

I wish I could find someplace where I did not have to slog through political propaganda under the guise of political analysis.

I never voted for Bill. I didn't have to since he was so popular in my state, he was a shoo-in--even in a state that voted for Raygun twice.

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Stop blaming Bill.

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So, if she wins the nomination
Posted by: harpy on Jan 7, 2008 9:19 AM   
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where does that leave Alternet? Are you then going to remember how you bashed one of the Democratic choices in a way that Newt and Karl would be proud of, or are you going to go ahead and endorse a Republican candidate? On any day, any Democratic is a far better choice than a Republican. Bill Clinton didn't pave the way for W, Al Gore refusing to let Bill campaign for him, and ignoring his own home state were big problems. Don't forget the millions that were spent to bring down the Clintons because he beat out Daddy Bush, and know for a fact that whoever gets the Dem nomination, Clinton, Obama, or Edwards, will be vilified as they were Satan incarnate. Articles like this just made those Repugs sit back and smile because this is totally self defeating. Don't forget about how much better it was during Clinton's term, and think about how bad it will be for everybody if a Repug steals another election and turns us into a totallitarian theocracy. Will Alternet assist in that takeover?

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» RE: So, if she wins the nomination Posted by: Luther Blissett
Welfare "reform" impact
Posted by: Dianka on Jan 7, 2008 9:20 AM   
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Thank you for addressing welfare "reform", which (it appears) few Americans understand. The primary function of welfare "reform" as we got it is the establishment of a massive (and growing) pool of super-cheap/no benefits labor (minimum wage or less)without choices, steadily replacing "regular" workers. Workfare labor does not have worker's rights and protections. Workfare continues to be a powerful tool for suppressing wages and maximizing corporate profits, getting rid of unions, eliminating workers' benefits (insurance, job security). I don't think Americans understand yet what wiping out the entitlement of fundamental aid (recognized by most nations as a protected human right)really means to the nation itself, but in a nutshell, it is a major step toward establishing a totalitarian government.

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» RE: Welfare "reform" impact Posted by: Lauren
» RE: When you fail... Posted by: nightgaunt
The sins of the husband
Posted by: audiodef on Jan 7, 2008 9:28 AM   
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I haven't even read this article. The premise alone was enough to prompt me to comment. What's wrong with this idea is that these things weren't brought to us by "the Clintons". They were brought to us by "Bill Clinton".

However, let the record show that I am against relatives of former presidents being allowed to run for office. I can't believe this wasn't written into the Constitution. Can you say "favoritism"? How about "regime"? I also don't like Hillary, but that's not an acceptable excuse to pass her husband's fault onto her.

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