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Blame It All on the '70s?

By Anneli Rufus, AlterNet. Posted December 30, 2007.


Author Thomas Hine argues we're still suffering from that "slum of a decade" that brought us gas lines, pantsuits and shag rugs.
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If the left and right agree on almost nothing else, we agree at least on this: America's in terrible shape. Such shocking shape that -- how did we come to this? -- it might not actually survive.

And there our dialogue dissolves. The things about America you diagnose as lethal are the very things your megachurch-belonging cousin with the rifle rack in his truck prays might save its life. And vice-versa. Gay rights. Abortion rights. Prayer in the schools. Environmentalism. Corporations. Porn. There the shouting, and possibly shooting, begins.

How did we come to this? It's the '70s' fault, writes Thomas Hine in The Great Funk: Falling Apart and Coming Together (on a Shag Rug) in the Seventies (Farrar Straus Giroux, 2007), a richly if incriminatingly illustrated book about a traumatic "slum of a decade" in which "the country was running out of promise."

Well, the '60s were a hard act to follow.

"Only a decade before," Hine muses, "as the nation anticipated the conquest of space, the defeat of poverty, an end to racism and a society where people moved faster and felt better than they ever had before, it seemed that there was nothing America couldn't do." Flash-forward through Watergate, gas crises, helicopters escaping Saigon -- and "to live in the seventies was to live in a fallen world, one of promises broken and trust betrayed." Hine ticks off that decade's insults to heart, mind and eye: "The politicians were awful. The economy was awful. The insipid harvest gold and avocado kitchens were awful." Ditto gas lines, AMC Pacers, and pantsuits.

Nearly everyone who lived through those years would nod, flinching.

An eternal question about any era during which one was young is: Was the whole world embarrassing, or was it just me? As regards the '70s: It wasn't just you. A longtime design critic -- thus more sensitive than most to beanbag chairs and Bicentennial-patterned carpeting -- Hine painstakingly skewers pyramid power and Virginia Slims in chapters whose pop-culture-referencing titles evoke the chronic inferiority complex of those disappointed times: "Running on Empty," for instance, and "It's Too Late," and "Not Ready for Prime Time?"

Yet his skewering has an obligatory quality, a must-mock-Midler delliberateness. It's a setup. Because this book's real point is to burrow deep into the shag rugs and chest hair and extract wisdom. Yes, your dad lost his job. And disco sucked. But from an era that is all too easy to dismiss as silly, trivial and grim sprang most of the essential issues inflaming our discourse today. Grounds for celebration or destruction or for civil war, depending on whom you ask, were cultivated in that decade, in a petrie dish that smelled of Diet Pepsi, amyl nitrate, apple-spice air freshener and, well, funk.

Ecology. Diversity. Ethnic and sexual identity. Individuality. Alternative sources of energy. Feminism. Fundamentalist spirituality. Retrace our steps (in Earth shoes and a crocheted vest and Dacron flares, of course) through Jimmy Swaggart and solar-heated geodesic domes and blaxploitation films and the Village People and you will find it there, albeit all innocent and earnest and embryonic. And not just the topics themselves but the ways in which we face them now: our wary citizen-journalist vigilance, questioning authority, scoping out conspiracies, pursuing truthiness. The '60s tend to get all the credit -- for rebellion, for consciousness-raising, for everything. And those who were young in the '70s faced a deafening chorus roaring: You missed the boat and are, indeed, too late.

The era they'd missed had been imbued with a wild easy-rider-come-together optimism. "Even the protestors of the sixties," notes Hine, who is old enough to have been one of them, "objected that America was using its immense wealth and power to do the wrong things, not that it did things wrong. Yet during the seventies it seemed that the United States couldn't do anything right." And it was precisely that shattering of optimism, the serial humiliations of Nixon and Vietnam and ugly urban sprawl and the wracking poverty spawned by inflation and massive layoffs, that spawned a strange new kind of solidarity. A desperate bottom-of-the-barrel creativity. The sneaky kind of freedom that breaks chains and opens doors when -- to paraphrase Kris Kristofferson's "Me and Bobby McGee" -- you've got nothing to lose. And that, of course, was the last song Janis Joplin recorded before she died in 1970. Among baby boomers, Hine writes, "the song's refrain ... was heard as a kind of epitaph." Her death was itself a loss, thus one less thing to lose. As was Jimi's, one month before, and Jim Morrison's, one year hence. As was the Beatles' slow-motion collapse: mere markings on a timeline now and, to most, funny ancient history: Yoko smiling and smug, Linda singing off-key into a switched-off mic, flashing past in the neat anodyne black-and-white of documentaries. But to a generation raised to be the center of attention, the first wave to worship rock-'n'-roll, these losses wrought a shocking loss of innocence. The long and winding road was cracked.

But hey. "When the center cannot hold, well, that's good for those out on the edge," Hine reasons. "When the forces of order are revealed to be a malign conspiracy, it's a good time for a party."

And in that spreading uncertainty, "when the system weakened, the oddballs and malcontents found an opening. It became possible to try out identities and find solidarity with other rare birds like yourself." Failures, deaths and disasters had proven space-age optimism and patriotism illusory. Yet as darkness fell without, light swelled within: "Awareness of a world with limits allowed people to impose fewer limits on themselves and to explore frontiers within themselves." Struggling up out of the ruins of shared midcentury assumptions, Americans dusted themselves off and decided that their ripped jeans required patches -- but which to choose? Smiley faces, pot leaves, praying hands? In that scramble, Americans discovered a new icon:

Me.

Not me, who sits here writing this, but "me" as an idea. An ideology. A literature, a style. An endless source of fascination. "Finding your identity was extremely important," Hine writes of an era when "each family member dressed to express" -- with enormous clashing checks and plaids, with star-studded lace-up boots and "fun fur" skirts and factory-embroidered faux batiks, sudsing with a shampoo only the '70s could spawn: It was called Gee, Your Hair Smells Terrific. It was an era when, tellingly, Life magazine folded and People began.

Yes, this arguably turned us into narcissists. But Hine strives to show how all that mirror-gazing also brought self-awareness, direction and long-overdue self-acceptance to countless Americans, even if some of the gazing occurred over the tops of cocaine straws. And sometimes me morphed into an empowering we.

"The history of the seventies is dominated by the rise of like-minded but hitherto marginal individuals asserting the validity of their ways of seeing and doing things. Not all these ways of thinking were ultimately liberating. Nevertheless, finding that there were others who thought and felt as you did was liberating itself." The resounding popularity of the 1977 miniseries Roots, for example, "reached far beyond the African-American community" and, "as its title suggested ... spoke to a wider desire by all sorts of people to know about the circumstances and experiences of their forebears and to connect with their traditions. Roots, by telling such a rich story about slaves, for which the historical and genealogical record was presumed to be sparse, encouraged others whose ancestors didn't arrive on the Mayflower to look for evidence of these humbler lives."

Other corporate products, however cynically motivated, served as touchstones for what are today's identity politics. The 1973 film Jesus Christ Superstar, along with Jimmy Carter's born-againism and Hal Lindsey's 1970 megabestseller The Late Great Planet Earth -- which prophesied the end of the world and the Second Coming and sold 28 million copies -- alternately seduced and scared legions of Americans into "a Christian consciousness," Hine writes, "that was very different from the liberal Christianity that had become the consensus during the post-World War II era."

Disco sowed the seeds of technomusic. Funk sowed the seeds of hip-hop. Compact cars -- despite the Pinto's tendency to explode when rear-ended -- sowed the seeds for Priuses. Shattered ideals sowed the seeds of dissent.

The scrutiny was nonstop. "One of the fundamental approaches" of the groundbreaking 1973 women's-health manual Our Bodies, Our Selves "was self-examination," Hine reminds us, "and some passages were written to be read while holding a mirror, so that readers could discover previously unexplored parts of their own bodies. It was easier, however, to learn by looking at someone else's body. Many women recall consciousness-raising sessions at which, speculum in hand, they examined the vaginas of their fellow participants in order to understand what was inside themselves." During those same years, he points out, Hustler magazine revolutionized over-the-counter porn by printing "pink shots" -- interior photos, as it were. Ironically, if for different reasons, "feminists were engaged in much the same exploration."

Apocalyptic and disco fantasies mixed giddily in those years with a yen for authenticity -- by which yogurt and animal-rights activism and vibrators became mainstream, and by which manufacturers got rich churning out decor in feculent "earth tones." And this is what marks the '70s: this urgency, this dazed, tender, ever-so-public awakening on the cusp between Strawberry Fields and multinationals. It was the decade when a hundred pride movements bloomed. So much pride, so little embarrassment.

And that's what makes the '70s, arguably more than any other decade, so embarrassing.

But hey. They wore that Dacron so you wouldn't have to.

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Anneli Rufus is the author of several books, including Party of One: The Loners' Manifesto.

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Shag rugs did not cause Ronald Reagan
Posted by: JayHaden on Dec 30, 2007 8:53 PM   
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It's really difficult to absorb these breathless decadal summaries, let alone agree with them. Maybe all this was true, like all the crazy stuff in that movie about fringe America (I'm getting too old to remember titles, but you may recall the image of the scores of tanning pods on the beach). Maybe "me" did beat up on "we," but there was a serious sensibility to the 70's. After all, the Vietnam War lasted halfway through the decade, and OPEC did jerk us around early on. As I recollect, the 60's of cultural myth were probably just the last half of that decade and maybe just the last two years -- after the Tet Offensive and My Lai. Likewise, the 70's of self-indulgence and experimentation with bad personal design decisions was maybe just the last half of that decade also. Until then, we had a blossoming communitarian movement that engendered Lindesfarne and The Farm and The Whole Earth Catalog. We had a short-lived panic in Detroit (emulating rationality) that brought us decent small cars that quickly died out as the automakers realized that profits on small cars were also small. The National Center for Alternative Technology was created. Universities and states put money into research on energy efficient housing. The Clean Water and Clean Air Acts were passed. No, sir! Let's not take our eye off the fact that the social, economic and environmental progress of the 70's scared the bejesus out of corporate America. If we are to fault the 70's, it is for that decade's success in cultivating the embryo of an alternative system -- a more economically rational and socially liberal system. Like SCHIP today, it became a scary model that began to gnaw at the corporate-backed Republicans until they had to do something, which was to run fascist politicians in sheep's clothing in order to eventually desconstruct every institution that might possibly promote their nightmare to reality. If Reagan and Bush were an effect, yes, the 70's were their cause. But, to focus on the trivia of the 70's is like blaming Paris Hilton for our multi-trillion dollar deficit today. We can mislead through our need to entertain. Let's be careful out there. History doesn't require rewriting just yet.

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» I'll take Barry White and punt Posted by: YogiBear
» Jackson Browne is more my style.. Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Keep on truckin'
Posted by: renelucy on Dec 30, 2007 9:42 PM   
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Ah yes, the 70s! Cocaine wasn't addictive and marujuana was the herb of choice. A rap group was strangers sitting on the floor talking with the help of a facilitator. Health care was free at several clinics (at least in L.A.)
And on the political/social front WOW! did we accomplish a bunch of stuff!
I am very proud of the law that gave women's sports equal funding in our schools, also the Americans with disabilities act, which if not passed in the 70s was at least started in the 70s. Cities around the U.S. passed non-discrimination laws that included sexual preference, even though most were later repealed, these laws gave hope and impetus to tens of thopusands of closeted gays and lesbians. Feminism gave men permission to show love, tenderness and compassion (thank you, really). Even Watergate had it's benefits. Investigative journalism was at it's zenith. Our gov't became less secretive and more transparent (ah the good old days). Most citizens of this country don't realize just how far backward Bush and his ilk have taken us. Our foreign policy had a lot more to do with human rights than mineral rights.
On a personal note, I'd like nothing better than a van with a porthole window and a sunset painted on the side and an interior completely covered in shag carpeting, floors, walls and ceiling, with a great stereo system to listen to all that great disco music and ease on down the road.

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» RE: Keep on truckin' Posted by: VZEQICVA
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70s weren't bad at all
Posted by: jimmyaj on Dec 30, 2007 10:42 PM   
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The 80s with Reagan and Bush Sr. were much worse and depressing. The 70s had some degree of residual optimism that hasn't been seen since, although there was a little hope for a while during the Clinton years. Since the 80s the fleecing of America by the corporations has been the only show in town.

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» RE: 70s weren't bad at all Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: 70s weren't bad at all Posted by: Lauren
» RE: 70s weren't bad at all Posted by: charinko punk
you know what
Posted by: struggles on Dec 30, 2007 11:36 PM   
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man this is a broad statement since i never read the article. but you know some supposed change is supposed to have happened out of the 70's what? the end of the vietnam syndrome or the creation of al qaida by carter or nixon's illegal bombings of laos and cambodia maybe how about the advent of the idiot i.e. the fucking yippie which permeates all of american liberal politics.

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If anything, the 70's had TOO much Naive Optimism
Posted by: xbj on Dec 30, 2007 11:42 PM   
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Like the actual belief, held by many, that after Richard Nixon's resignation and Ford shutting the barn door after the cattle had escaped, there could absolutely never be another Republican president ever again.

Like the actual belief, held by many, that there would never be, could never be another imperialistic disaster like Viet Nam.

Unfortuntely, the Bush-Cheney years have completely disavowed us and the world of such silly optimistic notions and shoved our collective faces in the Nazi ugliness that will unfortunately always be Amerika.

An ugliness that even another Clinton Presidency of two full terms could only drive underground, far under their rocks, planning their next Nazi 9-11 Reichstag fire.

There is no cure for GOPNazi American Imperialsm other than nuclear annihilation, and unfortunately the world has been made very clear on this.

Ditto naive optimism.

Don't blame the 70's. The world has been full of Nazis since long before the 1940's. Only blame Amerika for ignorantly and maliciously voting them into office, and not rounding them up and hanging them before it was too late.

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Time: when more political insights in Mad Magazine issue than Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine
Posted by: Bobsays on Dec 30, 2007 11:55 PM   
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It was a time when mainstream TV and magazines like Mad would pack more sharp observations and analysis in a few pages than a weighty tome from our times.

People were healthier then as well: just go look through old photos and film archives: Americans were skinny and fit. The women were sexy and very healthy looking: it was an age when men around the world dreamed about the American hottie.

What has ripped the heart and soul out of the modern world has been the toxic mix of corporatism and legal powers and the fractured me-isms of the 70s. It gave us political correctness and broken communities that let the drug gangs and criminals run wild.

The 80s became like the video 'Welcome to the Jungle' by Guns and Roses (you can watch it on You Tube) to be reminded of the street crime and homelessness.

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X pat
Posted by: davy on Dec 31, 2007 1:43 AM   
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Ahhh the nostalgia. I miss em. Back when you could still afford to live. The banks and moneymen have certainly "got theirs". Wish it would bring em happiness like my friendships forged in the 70's. But alas, we zigged when we should have zagged. NOW . . .

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» RE: X pat Posted by: Lauren
Crap
Posted by: ZoomerSlick on Dec 31, 2007 3:44 AM   
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I think I much prefer the ideas in Lipstick Traces to this stuff, as far as self-indulgent post-modern pop culture meditations go, which isn't very far. Actually, I imagine this book is total crap.

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In 1973 the wealthy "Names" of Lloyd's of London began to see the writing on the wall
Posted by: Suzon on Dec 31, 2007 3:46 AM   
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as the first of potentially thousands of asbestosis claims was upheld in a US federal court. The Names, which included Tory MPs and a High Court judge or two had pledged everything they owned to pay off such claims and each of them would have been bankrupted as awards would soar into the billions.

They decided to "recruit to dilute" and for the first time not only allowed women and foreigners to join their ranks, they conspired to defraud them by concealing what they knew about the potential losses. There is reason to believe that the rise of corporate greed from the 1980s onward was initially inspired by the Names' fear of financial annihilation. When these wealthy men with multiple commercial interests saw how easily they could get away with blatant theft, they saw no reason to stop.

Furthermore, there was plenty of scope for blackmail. The Queen had to protect Lloyd's by fair means or foul. The 33,000 victims had to be sacrificed (30 suicides resulted) and so deals had to be done with the SEC (which mysteriously stopped a massive investigation) and the NY State Postal Inspectors (ditto). Wonder why the UK followed the US twice into Iraq? I think they had no choice, given that these investigations were halted. The words "corporation" and "corruption" have a lot in common.

Shame about the awful synthetic clothes though.

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» Relax Suzon--It's all there. Posted by: Sojourner
In defense of the 70s...sort of...
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Dec 31, 2007 4:23 AM   
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The 70s had some of the best music, in some ways as rich and diverse as the 60s. Singer-songwriters, Glam, Progressive, Black Sabbath, Arena rock, AC/DC, ABBA, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, Old-School Punk, Funk...It's the stuff we make fun of sometimes, but always go back to.

I mean, what other decade gave you classics like "Billy, Don't be a Hero", "Kung-Fu Fighting", "Run, Joey, Run", "Watching Scotty Grow"...?

And if you order now, we'll throw in "Lost Disco Classics" and a steak knife that can cut through a can of Tab.

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» Muskrat Love... Posted by: veggiegrrrl
This
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Dec 31, 2007 4:32 AM   
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Article is pretty freaking awful. But then again it is typical of most media outlets... in that Harping on the bad sells. Just once just once I would like to see the other side of the coin on this site... that things really are not as bad as all that... hey you woke up this morning didn't you?

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The Big Chill?
Posted by: jim_altman on Dec 31, 2007 5:56 AM   
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As an alternative, might I recommend "Getting Saved from the Sixties," by Steven Tipton, as a better understanding of the decade of the seventies. It seems to me that the counterculture of the late 60's was just the flip side of the same old American song and that in the seventies our true scripting kicked in and we learned how to mainstream it and make a buck from it. Faded blue jeans are selling these days for $70-$100 a pair in the mall. A tie-dyed t-shirt with a peace symbol fetches $40. Rockers and hip-hoppers are now multi-millionaires. To live a green, organic, politically correct, culturally sensitive lifestyle requires a six figure income. You can't blame the seventies for doing what comes naturally in the American way. Capitalism trumps freedom just about every time.

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LOL!!
Posted by: craigandrew on Dec 31, 2007 6:07 AM   
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Better yet... instead of doing anything productive at all, let's just sit on our butts and blame... hula hoops? or frisbees!!

If there is anything that is degrading our society, it is blame itself.

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» RE: LOL!! Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
Anneli Rufus understands The Great Funk
Posted by: wahkong on Dec 31, 2007 6:25 AM   
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The review of Mr. Hine's book, The Great Funk, by Anneli Rufus is one of the best such reviews I've read so far.

A few nights before I left Hong Kong for Chicago to pursue my graduate work in 1971, I dreamt of vampires coming at me in the streets of America. I didn't find any vampires. I "found" myself and my fellow baby boomers instead.

I lived through the pain and the exhilaration of the Great Funk years, when "conventionality belongs to yesterday" (as the disco song goes in the 1978 movie `Grease'). I got angry at my roommate for smoking pot with his friends in my room (I didn't know that they were just having fun). I saw students on campus streaking across the Quadrangle in Ann Arbor. They stopped only after the president of the university had streaked himself. He killed the joy. I wore checkered white-and-green bell bottoms from Filene's basement. I bought my first car in 1978, a used off-white and green "Heavy Chevy" when I got my first job in Cortland, New York. The salesman told me that the previous owner was a widow who used the car only to go to church. Toward the end of the decade, I saved enough money to buy a grey shag rug to decorate my one-room apartment in Astoria, Queens. The shag rug was so hairy--and I thought it was so sexy--it could not be cleaned.

Mr. Hine's book, The Great Funk, resurrects the sights, sounds, smells and emotional tumults of America in the 70s. America in the Seventies was, as Mr. Hine said in the book's title, "falling apart." It was an intensely lonely and bewildering period.

But the same feeling of not believing in the establishment -- or not having an "anchor" -- also allowed people to "come together" to find their own meaning and do their own thing. That was how I came to find myself.

One chapter in the book, "Nights in Green Dacron," made me cry. Never again could I sit with thousands of young college students watching "Behind the Green Door" with no sense of shame. We outsourced hypocrisy in the 70s. Everything hangs out. America in the Seventies had a place for people who dared to be themselves -- to be a working mom, to be gay, to have hair, to be black, or to be funky.

The Great Funk years in America showed me that I didn't need to hide or to lie. Mr. Hine's book tells why.

I don't believe that Mr. Hine says that the 70s was either right or wrong. He tells it like it is, for people to agree or to disagree. The review by Ms. Rufus affirms this.

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70's not hooked on pop
Posted by: grn1 on Dec 31, 2007 7:22 AM   
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One of the most important mentions of this article is the book "Our bodies, Ourselves" Although I never looked at my vag in group sessions, it was the resource that helped me home birth and breastfeed my children. Highly recommended for men also, if they care to understand female sexuality and maturity in dealing with birth control and reproduction.

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NOT BUYING IT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 31, 2007 7:31 AM   
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About the 70's. Children went out to play after school and didn't disappear, women went out on dates and were just fine, rape was not part of the daily discussion, college was affordable, jobs were still to be found, houses were affordable, TV was not yet god, people still socialized (partied), we were informed and read more and hadn't become self absorbed. Viet Nam hurt us all. The music felt good. The 70's are not what's wrong. Thanks, ANNA

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get out of the box!!
Posted by: siamdave on Dec 31, 2007 7:56 AM   
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- the story - and the comments - are remarkable for their apparent complete blindness to the single most important cause of things appearing to start to go wrong in the 70s - the corporate reactionary revolution to the strong drive for freedom in the 60s. That nobody now appears to understand this is testimony to the great success of that reactionary revolution. And giving one great pessimism about the future. Read about it here - http://www.rudemacedon.ca/dlp/box/app2-corp.html - and then learn about The Box here - http://www.rudemacedon.ca/dlp/box/box-intro.html

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Born In The 70s
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Dec 31, 2007 8:06 AM   
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I blame the 70s for the horrible dark, fake wood veneer kitchen cabinets and orange/green counter tops that have cursed every apartment I've ever rented. The kind that have been impossible to match with any respectable decor ever since!

Who thought that brown, green, yellow and orange was a good color combination?

I'm waiting for the article that addresses my generation, born in the 70s. The article that places the blame at the feet of the people currently in power and their enablers - Baby Boomers! That over sized generation that is about to start retiring in such numbers as to suck the life out of the rest of us! Off to the retirement villas with you then! Good riddance! No more retirement commercials from financial advisory firms starring your beloved counter-culture icon Dennis Hopper! No more co-opting for commercial use every good song written in the sixties! Just move over and get out of the way, It's our turn!

Your generation made this mess! You can't blame Vietnam, Reagan, Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia, Rwanda, Global Warming, Globalization, Debt Slavery, Third World Poverty etc. it on us, we were in school! Now that your failure has left us on the brink of a dying world, go sit your fat asses down in some geodesic dome or whatever your generation gets off on, so we can get down to actually making a difference.

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» RE: Born In The 70s Posted by: xbj
» you're overgeneralizing Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: Oh, PuLEEZe. Posted by: aka_bozo
» aka_bozo...you're right Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: Every bit of good you do has impact Posted by: doinaheckuvajob
» Amen Posted by: kepstein7777
» RE: Amen Posted by: xbj
I Have Good Memories of the 70s
Posted by: Libertine on Dec 31, 2007 9:07 AM   
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I came of age in the late 70s, graduating from HS in 1976.

The 70s were a great time to grow up. When I was in high school, there were no metal detectors nor cops roaming the halls. There were no moronic zero tolerance policies -- teachers still used good old common sense back then.

I remember reading that in 1973, one person working full time for the minimum wage could keep three people above the poverty line. Now, the minimum wage won't even keep one person above it.

I remember being able to fill my first car up from dead empty to full on just five dollars. Nowadays, that five dollars won't even bump the gas hand up a notch.

Student loans didn't leave you in six figure debt for decades back then. And you didn't need 15 years of experience and a college degree to get any sort of a decent paying job in those days, either.

No one had ever heard of AIDS in those days -- the worst STD you could get back then could be cleared up by a prompt trip to the doctor.

People were less politically cynical back then. At that time, the ERA seemed like a lead-pipe cinch to pass. The right to choose had been established, with women and minorities making gains everywhere and gay rights movement was beginning to gather steam.

Up until the late 70s, religious people practiced their religion privately and didn't think they had the right to take over the country to replace our democratic republic with a theocracy. Everyone said "Happy Holidays" and "Season's greetings" without any Christian whining about being a discriminated-against victim.

And not everyone wore those loud double-knot polyester plaid and checked leisure suits in flourescent bug-guts green. It was mainly older guys with a midlife crisis who tried that crap back then. Most guys my age back then wore jeans, with t shirts in summer, flannel shirts in winter, with sneakers or engineer boots.

I remember the 70s with much fondness. If I could have my cell phone, computer and internet back then, I might even want to go back there to live.

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» XBJ- Funny !! Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: XBJ- Funny !! Posted by: xbj
If the environmentalists would have been taken seriously in the 70s
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Dec 31, 2007 9:28 AM   
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If the environmentalists would have been taken seriously in the 70s, we would not be in the midst of a global eco-meltdown....

While we were saying NO NUKES, we were begging for a CLEAN ENERGY planet.

I could go on but my blood is boiling.

The eco-hippies of the 60s,70s had it right and the greedmongers laughed themselves (and us along with them) all the way to where we are now.

And look here now, 30 years later, all our good ideas were "clouds in my coffee."

Someday we'll look back at the 70s, 80s and wish we were taken seriously for this is indeed the END of the "good ol' days..."

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» wow. that's so deep.... Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Sixties worship by the media
Posted by: war_on_tara on Dec 31, 2007 9:34 AM   
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This article at least makes a nod to the main problem, which is Sixties worship by the media. (Conservative media does this in exact reverse - Sixties vilification.)

The media's standard wisdom about the Sixties has always been that the Sixties were wonderful or at least exciting ... subtext, And You Missed Them, Kid. Even Tom Brokaw has jumped on that bandwagon. What did he do in the Sixties, jam with Hendrix? Lose a leg in Vietnam? Take over a college president's office? Oh right, he was the most boring TV newsreader in Los Angeles! But he was, like, a young adult in the Sixties so he knows everything.

So it would be nice to see a revisionist look at the Seventies that wasn't entirely negative... for a change! It wasn't such a bad time.

"That '70s Show" was fairly true to the time. Except maybe the clothes aren't quite WILD enough for kids in a small town in Wisconsin. Otherwise it's pretty accurate.

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» RE: Sixties worship by the media Posted by: war_on_tara
ah, $10.00 for a 5-finger lid
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Dec 31, 2007 4:32 PM   
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ah, $10.00 for a 5-finger lid

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» ha ha ha ha....FREE BIRD !!! Posted by: veggiegrrrl
The key issue is "me"
Posted by: SufiLizard on Jan 1, 2008 7:34 AM   
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I've always understood the term "Me Generation" to refer to the generation that were young adults in the 70's. But I think that the self-centeredness of the 70's has only grown and expanded through the 80's, 90's and into the current decade.

I think the root of all our current problems in the world can be traced to this single obsession with 'self.'

Corporate greed, fundamentalist Christianity, denial of global warming, all stem from this fundamental shift in world-view from a focus on the collective good to a me-first mentality.

You can't blame it all on the 70's, this shift really began in the 60's but it really bloomed in the 70s.

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No! Put the blame where it belongs!
Posted by: drcyflowers on Jan 1, 2008 6:22 PM   
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Oh please! All of our problems stem from the cultural trends of the '70s? No!

Let's put the blame where it belongs: corporate greed, movement conservatism, Christian fundamentalism, right-wing commercial media, decaying infrastructure, suburban sprawl, underfunded schools, southern racism, dog-eat-dog global capitalism...

These things were NOT created by 1970s pop culture!

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A Better "ME" makes a better "WE" - The 70s are the Only Hope!
Posted by: mustaang on Jan 1, 2008 7:48 PM   
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Reading this entire piece was so unsatisfying because there was nothing in it that wasn't wrong. Was this person AROUND at all in the 70s?

The 70s focus on 'me' was not selfish & self-serving but part of human enlightenment so that society be filled with REAL people who have a Self, and are not just willing cogs in a mindless and heartless corporate robot, preserving benefit to the few through sacrifice of the many. And everyone who was around in the 70s knew that. And if you didn't, you were pretty much seen as a monster.

A general (albeit mild) reflector of social trends of the 70s is how TV programs always had morals to stories, no matter how thinly scripted, to let you know it mattered more how you played the game than whether you won. (You would never hear THAT sentiment today!) In fact, there were virtually no programs on television that taught kids to place themselves first. That came in with Alex Keaten's Ronald Reagan-inspired 80s era character. In the 70s we learned that WE mattered, were NOT part of a mindless herd, and that maybe even, we could help. And if 4,000 people were doing the wrong thing, maybe if that one person raises their voice to speak about a better direction, then maybe we had a chance after all.

Is that "overly optimistic"? Actually its ten times more in need of hearing today, where kids just want to get noticed and "make it" with the system, instead of doing what countless of generations before them had the good sense to do: Rebel. And at least create a menu of alternative possibilities to create some kind of expansion & evolution with.

Most importantly, the 70s CARED. We believed in humanity, believed in hope, and believed in the power of people to fight the government and tell them what's what (Where is THAT today, from this complacent group of sleeping spend-thrifts?) Do you think this Joker Bush would have stayed in office with the depth of his lies, betrayals, and violations of the Constitution? In the 70s, it took ONE lie, and you were out the door.

And yes, we believed in a good time. But maybe some kill-joys think that's shallow and goofy.

It was goofy -- that's what bell bottoms and shag rugs represented. The FUN that we still believed in. And fun is intellectual. "Seriousness is the last bastion of the shallow" - which is why the Buddah is a laughing figure. But so many believe that joy is frivolous, I guess the 70s is the time period that can be written off as silly and selfish.

Bottom line is that there really is a reason that so much of Today's Music is just rehashing re-make recordings of all the songs written in the 70s. Because in the 70s, we had it going on, as a generation full of creativity, purpose, and big personalities. We now lack big personalities and big ideals, EXACTLY BECAUSE pieces like this bully the public into devaluing a golden age, and the freedom they should be experiencing is weighed down under the current politics of fear.

But because I am from the 70s, THANK GOD, I know a little secret: That this too shall pass. The love of a better world will re-awaken our fascination with all the simple pleasures that profit-seeking corporations try to make us undervalue. And love of ourselves will remind us that if we all give a little piece of the mystery to each other, we can share a big bright beautiful world together we could not have created on our own.

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Remember the Coca Cola commercial "I'd like to teach the world to sing?"
Posted by: Mikela123 on Jan 1, 2008 8:06 PM   
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There must have been some hope and optimism around back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOEU87SBTU

I know, Coca Cola - crass corporate commercialism, put this commercial is so 70s and I feel good just watching it. I was born in 1973, and I wish I could feel as optimistic and hopeful as you guys who grew up in the seventies must have felt if Coke can make this commercial.

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The 70's was about humor-- too bad the author lacks it
Posted by: Rockwell on Jan 1, 2008 11:06 PM   
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This piece was awful-- and incorrect factually in many regards. Just because people believed in ornamentation and excess back then doesn't make it wrong. And anyway, "orange and avocado kitchens" were 60's, not 70's. Get your facts straight before you start generalizing about an extremely interesting and artful decade.

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Look at The Great Funk
Posted by: aldo47 on Jan 2, 2008 2:41 PM   
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The book than generated this review is funnier, livelier and more subtle than those commenting on it assume. The Great Funk celebrates the creativity the was unleashed when "the system" stopped working. Indeed, its message is probably that we should be a bit less trusting of authority than we have been since 9/11, and faced with our current failures, look for some new ways to take action.
From the final paragraph:
"Instead of indulging in nostalgia, we might, in the spirit of the seventies, sift through the wreckage of the past and find things that are useful in our own time...We might learn again to appreciate how the failure of the purportedly wise opens the door for the freedom of the many. We might feel exhilarated at living in a world that's full of problems that maybe we can solve. We might be dissatisfied. And we might do something about it right now."

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