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What Giuliani's Sleazy Sex Life Tells Us About Him

By JoAnn Wypijewski, TheNation.com. Posted December 18, 2007.


There's something untrustworthy about a man who can't conduct a decent affair -- Rudy Giuliani never could.

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There is something untrustworthy about a man who can't conduct a decent affair. Rudy Giuliani never could. He flaunted his girlfriend Judi Nathan (now a proper lady with a proper lady's name, Mrs. Judith Giuliani) at public events while he was mayor and married to Donna Hanover, with whom he had no understanding about elective affinities. He used his son Andrew as his beard, claiming he was teaching the boy golf those many weekends when he was cavorting with Judi in Southampton. He announced his new love, and concomitant dumping of the old, at a 2001 press conference, thus informing Donna their marriage was over at the precise moment that any New Yorker listening to 1010 WINS learned of it.

Then he tried to push her and the children out of Gracie Mansion so he could get on with his life.

In the return whiff of scandal around Rudy and Judi the hoary details of their crass courtship are said to be of no consequence. Let's not get into his private life, commentators quickly warned, eager to steer political discussion clear of anything that might actually rub up against realities of life experienced by the common horde. Let's talk about the issues, the "new" ones here being hardly newer than what any New Yorker had long known: that the NYPD accompanied the pair on their trysts; that, hark!, these police escorts were paid for from the public purse and involved some finagled accounting.

The parched details and dollar amounts in the latest revelations are nowhere nearly as telling as the rough picture of things sketched in Newsday by Jimmy Breslin back in 2000, when he wrote about a cop nicknamed Wrong Way because once while pulling into Gracie Mansion with Judi in the backseat he almost collided with the cop pulling out of the mansion with Donna.

Wrong Way was later part of a five-car police detail assembled simply to get the king and his court to the ballgame: one car for Rudy, one for Judi, one for Andrew, one for Donna and one for the Other Girl he's said to have kept on the side, the two girlfriends given separate corporate seats at Yankee Stadium. The only evocative tidbits among the latest are news that someone from the NYPD walked Judi's dog and accompanied her on a shopping trip when she selected her sapphire and diamond engagement ring -- in Atlanta, while business in post-9/11 New York bordered on the berserk insisting that Love NY meant Shop NY.

At least the cops didn't torture or kill the dog, a practice that in an earlier life was part of young Judi's job. That would have twinned Giuliani's personal and political deficits, probably irreparably.

In the main, the huff and puff over "taxpayer expense" is not likely to blow down much to obstruct Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign. Once we collectively concede that some maximum leader requires maximum protection, and so too his loved ones -- either for the sake of his happiness or as a hedge against ransom threats -- then there's really not much difference between the wife, the kids, the dog, the girlfriend. The reporters at Politico didn't sift through those FOIA documents out of a passion for fiscal probity. Sex is the story that sells here, so why not talk about sex?

Granted it was more fun -- the last time adultery and presidential ambitions coincided so publicly -- to imagine Governor Clinton bound to a bedstead with silken ties, maddened by the big-haired blonde with her animal prints and scented light bulbs, a woman who claimed he was never so happy as when he could bury his face in her muff, than it is to contemplate Mayor Giuliani panting over his soon-to-be-new-missus, the "princess," according to Vanity Fair, who's always longed to be "a queen." To toss around the subject of adultery and politics now is to raise that specter of Saturday Night Bill, and of the other big-haired girl, the frisky Monica, with her kneepads and cigar tricks and oral-anal games in the Oval Office. And no one much wants to do that: not partisans of Hillary Clinton; not her opponents, who may have to support her come November or ask for the Clintons' support; not conservatives, who may find themselves having to back their own philanderer down the road.


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JoAnn Wypijewski writes for CounterPunch, Mother Jones, Harpers and the Nation.

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and he's a republican
Posted by: davescott on Dec 18, 2007 3:16 AM   
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Screw his sex life. If you need reasons like these to loathe a Republican politician, you've been asleep for the last 27 years. What self-respecting non-swine would want to identify with this pack of thugs that passes itself off as a party?

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» Back up your statements Posted by: WhuThe?!?
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» RE: Back up your statements Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: and he's a republican Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
» RE: and he's a republican Posted by: willymack
» RE: and he's a republican Posted by: jbur816
Wishful Thinking
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 18, 2007 3:18 AM   
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I really hope Rudy gets the nomination. That would be too good to be true. If it all ends up being a contest between Rudy and Hillary, that'll be the final straw. I have a brother in Toronto and one in Frankfurt. I'll end up flipping a coin.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» Hey Tom... Posted by: fsuthai
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» RE: Wishful Thinking Posted by: dockboy
He broke the rules!
Posted by: Erik1968 on Dec 18, 2007 3:44 AM   
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Whatever those might be. It's kinda fun to watch left-wingers attack Guiliani for the same things the right attacks us for (not hating gays, enjoying sex, etc).

I don't enjoy folks playing the morals card only when it suits their political goals. Eek, will we see these gymnastics when Hilary endorses torture? I like to imagine there's a parallel universe where Christopher Hitchens is as enraged about torture as he is about Kissenger.

Hate the man on his merits. If there's one thing I learned from the Clarence Thomas hearings, it's that a hook like this can be wrigged off of.

I will say that it's pretty incredible how the msm lets Guiliani get away with all this. Can you imagine if a democrat had done even one of these things? He'd be unelectable! The moral center would NEVER accept a democrat adulterer! Or even a dem who bunked with a gay couple for a while!

Sigh.

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» RE: He broke the rules! Posted by: lobsterman
» RE: He broke the rules! Posted by: babs
» RE: He broke the rules! Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: He broke the rules! Posted by: babs
» RE: He broke the rules! Posted by: jbur816
It's the cart before the whores
Posted by: halweiner on Dec 18, 2007 4:22 AM   
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Rudy is not sleazy because of his sex life.
His sex life is sleazy because it's Rudy's.
In any morality play, he doesn't get to
be Adam, and in fact, he would probably,
given how good he looks in a dress, rather
be Eve. No; his role is the serpent. Glad to
see he is keeping me safe from Osama bin
Laden by advising the Bush Administration
on how to strip me of more rights than
the Taliban could with eavesdropping and
surveillance. Big Brother is more than just
watching you. He's no voyour. He just
crawled into bed with you. And it wasn't
to read you Goodnight Moon.

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Who does it better!
Posted by: rocketman on Dec 18, 2007 4:27 AM   
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While I do not approve of Rudy's handling of his affairs, I didn't approve of Clintons, which seems to be much more ofensive as he was President.

Seems the democrats appear to be OK with Clinton/Monica- just a guy having some fun.

Wondering, do democrats think they do it better than republicans, and thats why it's ok for one and not the other?

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» RE: Who does it better! Posted by: surfreality
» RE: Who does it better! Posted by: bannelee
» RE: Who does it better! Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: Who does it better! Posted by: rocketman
» RE: Who does it better! Posted by: dockboy
» RE: Who does it better! Posted by: surfreality
Oh come now
Posted by: PJT on Dec 18, 2007 4:52 AM   
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Please. Which would YOU prefer as president? 1) a guy with a complicated but completely normal, screwed up married life with a trail of ex wives and estranged children that will keep him in line while in the WH; 2) a man-eater with a baggage train of sleaze stretching back so far that her hubby, who is in a league with Benazir Bhutto's consort when it comes to corruption is afraid of her; or 3) an antediluvian wacko who thinks that the earth was created about 6,000 years ago in a flash of light, just about two weeks before the pyramids were built?

Let's face it folks: normal people don't run for president. If you want normal, move to Latvia or Finland. Rudy is as good as it gets. Besides, some great sex tapes with Rudi and Judi may emerge in the weeks before the election, courtesy of Hil and the Secret Service.

This is great-- don't spoil it.

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» RE: Oh come now Posted by: CatDad
Nice Addition to the Political Dialogue
Posted by: redbird30328 on Dec 18, 2007 5:32 AM   
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... even AlterNet should be ashamed for posting this article which adds no value whatsoever.

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Guiliani: not hot
Posted by: alby on Dec 18, 2007 5:52 AM   
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It has nothing to do with sex, even if his power-mad behavior is exhibited clearly in his sex life. I suppose that's what the article was getting at, even if it could be said in a handful of words instead of several pages.

Voting for a politician is like making a relationship choice. Despite all the promises, one never knows what these bastards are going to do once they've got in your electoral pants, so to speak. You know how it's said that if they screw her over, they'll probably do it to you, too.

For all the grousing about Bill, I think most people thought it was worth all the heartache, and would probably do it again. He just touches some of us in that "special" way. I hate to think how many Republicans have naughty thoughts about Bill Clinton in their public bathroom stalls...

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Joe
Posted by: greenjack8 on Dec 18, 2007 5:53 AM   
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Rudi, Rudi, Rudi...do infants have as much fun in infancy as you have in adultery?

Even I don't believe in morals, one persons interpretation of how we should behave, but I do believe in ethics, my own established directives of behavior.

I do not aspire to be the leader of the free world, or a missionary with a well armed army, to convert the world of those who hold beliefs are contrary to mine, but I do believe that this person should be held to a slightly higher standard, not based on religious beliefs, not based on sexual escapades but on the strength and conviction of their ethical behavior. Yours over time, sir, have been unacceptable.

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This story tops the ranks for sleaziness
Posted by: PerryBrass on Dec 18, 2007 6:16 AM   
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I am ashamed and appalled at this story; at the language in it, at the ridiculousness of it. This is what has turned progressivism into an embarrassment. So Rudi was an "adulterer," he's human. Simple as that. Why not trot out JFK's roundrobbin of fun-and-games, or dig around and see else we can stir up? The truth is Guiliani is a flawed egoist—like this is unknown in politics? Get him on the real issues, and let's finally let the side show become what it is, the side show—and we know where those end up.

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» RE: sleaziness Posted by: CatDad
As long as there's election fraud
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Dec 18, 2007 6:57 AM   
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--like in 2000 and 2004--then literally ANYONE can become president.

The question to ask is, "which candidate does Dick Cheney and the Israel lobby want for president?"

We may be looking at PresiFred.

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RUDY'S SEX LIFE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 18, 2007 6:58 AM   
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A crashing bore. Anna

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» PLEASE ANNA Posted by: Prairie Waif
Bottom line about Rudy....
Posted by: xenacat on Dec 18, 2007 7:04 AM   
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"It doesn't matter that Rudy had sex with Judi or anyone else, or that he had that police escort, frankly. What matters is that Rudy was a prick. Rudy made it cruel." That is the long and short of the article and why it is worth discussing his sorry ass sex life. It is the arrogant attitude of entitlement and the lack of concern for its impact on others that is the key element here. Do we really need another cruel, thoughtless and self absorbed jerk as president? After the disaster that has been Dubya, you'd think not.

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» RE: Bottom line about Rudy.... Posted by: lobsterman
» RE: Bottom line about Rudy.... Posted by: Cooltruth
These People are NOT my leaders....
Posted by: stina723 on Dec 18, 2007 7:23 AM   
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1) I hereby renounce any of these people as my leaders. I do not follow you. Your behavior is despicable and deplorable. You have no honor, no integrity, no ethics and no respect for the position of leadership you hold and/or desire to hold. And we wonder why American society is headed downhill?! Look at the examples being set by our supposed leaders?

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Giuliani ain't no Don Juan...
Posted by: stina723 on Dec 18, 2007 7:31 AM   
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Have you seen Giuliani lately? He needs a massive hair transplant and at least 5 inches, probably on both ends. Is the man's equipment even working? He looks like a little wizened troll or something. Clearly, these women are not after him for his sexual prowess, more like the money and power they can obtain through him or marrying him. It is a crime that his little escapades are being footed by taxpayers.

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Focus on the political, not the personal
Posted by: lesspopmorefizz on Dec 18, 2007 8:23 AM   
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Back when Monica Lewinsky was all over the news (and a popular Halloween costume), I found it reprehensible that so many Americans knew and cared so little about the decisions Clinton made as president that actually affected us, but took an obscene amount of pleasure bashing the man for his infidelity.

And even though Mr. "freedom is about submitting to authority" Giuliani's sex life might be indicative of less-than-stellar morals in other areas, since when is his slimeball status new information?

Frankly, I'm more concerned about the bad decisions he's made-- and would make-- as a representative of our country than his romantic decisions. Let's focus on that and not stoop to the level of our conservative counterparts who crucified Bill for something that was none of our damn business in the first place. And while Giuliani did make his personal life public, that's still not a good reason why we shouldn't take the high road and keep it on the politics. There's more than enough material about Giuliani's political record to discredit the guy as a legitimate presidential contender.

....plus, this way liberals don't come off sounding like a bevy of fourteen-year-olds who don't have anything better to do than read celebrity gossip rags.

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American Presidents Are Not Elected to Uphold Monogamy
Posted by: Libertine on Dec 18, 2007 8:52 AM   
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A president's private life is their own business, just so long as it doesn't interfere with the performance of the job they were elected to do. As far as I'm concerned, a president can screw everyone from here to Timbuktu, as long as they run their job.

It's interesting to note, however, that in the entire history of the US, we've had only one single president and it makes me wonder if a single person could get elected today.

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Slime Ball!
Posted by: tommy1957 on Dec 18, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Rudy was a slimey mayor and had an even slimeir personal life. That makes him the perfect Republican Candidate! Sorry, Huck, Mich, Johnny, Pauly, whom ever else; you just aren't slimey enough to represent the "Party of the Wide Stance".

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» RE: Slime Ball! Posted by: babs
» RE: Slime Ball! Posted by: Cooltruth
by any means necessary
Posted by: schnoggi on Dec 18, 2007 10:57 AM   
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who cares if a bunch of hand-wringing lefties think Rudy is a sleazeball, or if this issue is worthy of our shiny shrill attention. we aren't the ones in danger of putting this beast in office. any topic that could possibly derail this bastard is valid, and deserves widespread publicity in dumbshit land. here's hoping every single sordid detail gets wide play. this bastard's not cooked until the stake in his heart has fallen to splinters, keep the heat high and steady.

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rudi
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Dec 18, 2007 11:14 AM   
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who would want to fuck that ogre????? I mean take a good look. he's not funny,good looking,loving,friendly,just a perverted control freak(which I'm sure his children payed for dearly). what a package!!!! anybody who would have sex with that is,well,,,,not worth having sex with

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Good Gawd, another one!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 18, 2007 12:01 PM   
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When you watch Giuliani's body language and manner of presentation, he's the most dishonest, arrogant, self-congratulatory, criminal-minded self-deluding asshole that I have ever seen –– with the possible exception of the one currently in the White House.

A vote for RUDE-y is a vote for four (or eight) more years of the same...or worse.

(And yes, he looks like the reincarnation of Nosferatu; check out the old silent movie if you don't believe me...)

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republican hypocrisy
Posted by: 2partydrag on Dec 18, 2007 2:52 PM   
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beware of those telling you to disregard or ignore the personal... especially when it comes to Rudy Guiliani... in an election year. Republican operatives and consultants (and the corporate media) want you to know as little about his personal life as possible because guess what, the personal actually does matter. I've worked on campaigns before and breaking scandals to the public works very well, especially if done right.

I love that the right wing wants us to ignore his sexcapades. after all he was just doin' it with someone from the opposite sex.

I totally agree with the statement below that in the end it doesn't matter b/c the Israel lobby & Dick Cheney & Co. will be choosing our next Prez anyway.

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» RE: republican hypocrisy Posted by: Cooltruth
personal life = the REAL 'person'...
Posted by: mammamaia on Dec 18, 2007 4:23 PM   
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...not the smiling, hand-shaking, baby/celeb/a$$-kissing that they display in public...

and what person with half a brain would think a wife/mistress-cheating, public-funds-abusing guy would be any more honest or morally upstanding as a president?... and is that what anyone really wants to have representing us in the world?... aren't we laughing-stock enough already?

same goes for a woman who is either so dumb she does't know it, or looks the other way as her husband cheats on her privately and publicly for their entire married life, not even caring, apparently, when it makes prime time news and the tabloids and makes him the biggest dirty joke ever to hit the white house... is that demonstrating the strength of character and firmness of will, along with the moral integrity, that we need in a president even more now than ever?...

so yeah, what they do in their bedrooms and their closets and the backseats of their limos DOES matter!... it matters even more than political or public office 'experience'... it's high time we elected a president who's a decent person, first and foremost!... no one, no matter what their background or who they've been married to, has the kind of experience it takes to make the decisions a president has to make all day, every day... that can be and is learned, on the job, by all who've made it to the oval office... but if integrity and honesty aren't there to begin with, nothing will make someone a good leader...

love and hugs, maia
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It tells us...
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Dec 18, 2007 7:33 PM   
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Rudy is a Whore..!

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Isn't this the same person who...
Posted by: davmills on Dec 19, 2007 5:46 AM   
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Didn't Giuliani, several years ago, force the temporary closure of an art exhibit in NYC that featured the Madonna surrounded by feces? It was the artist's take on Christianity, not necessarily anti-Christian. Giuliani felt this to be an insult to the Church. Yet he himself is divorced (something people admittedly should have a right to) and somewhat pro-choice on abortion, both options that are a lot more anti-Church than any art exhibit.

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Not the reason to vote against him.
Posted by: olaamigo on Dec 20, 2007 8:25 AM   
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If I needed a reason to vote against Rudy, I think I'd go with his positions on Iraq and Iran, not the fact that he's been divorced a few times.

Way to go The Nation, Alternet and JoAnn! Doing your bit to trivialize what might be the most important election in a generation.

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Was Judi into Bottom Spanking ?
Posted by: pwhite97624 on Dec 22, 2007 5:48 PM   
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Just wondering. Might be a "clue" to Giuliani !

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