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Baseball's Mitchell Report: Steroid Use Doesn’t Discriminate, But Our Outrage Does
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However, the broad scope of this probe does point squarely at Major League Baseball and its role in this. After all, baseball benefited from this scandal. After the baseball strike in the mid-90s, baseball fans were leaving in droves. Fans came back once baseball turned into a home-run fest, partly fueled by some players, like Mark McGuire, Bonds and Sammy Sosa, who are associated with steroids allegations.
Leading the list is revered pitcher Roger Clemens and other MLB stars, including Andy Pettitte and Miguel Tejada. Clemens is truly one of baseball's sacred cows. Years ago, when he cowardly threw a blistering fastball at the head of Mike Piazza and later chucked a piece of a broken bat toward Piazza, no one batted an eye. Instead, baseball writers and fans effused that this only showed his fiery, competitive side. Never mind that Piazza could have experienced a serious head injury or even been killed by the torrid blast to the head.
I'm not going to hold my breath waiting on the calls for Clemens and others to be stripped of their honors and banned from the Hall of Fame. Baseball protects its own, unless his name is Barry Bonds (or maybe Pete Rose).
The hatred for Bonds has been over the top and quite telling. Yet one of baseball's untouchables also has been fingered. According to the Mitchell report, "the Rocket" was 'roided up. Are we now going to call for Major League Baseball to place an asterisk beside Clemens' Cy Young Awards? Are the Yankees' two World Series titles that were won on the strength of Clemens's right arm going to be tainted? Keep him out of the Hall of Fame?
Doubtful.
This puts baseball's apologists in a bit of a pickle. Bonds is the guy they all love to hate. Bonds is known for being particularly surly toward baseball writers, (note: I'm a former sportswriter and I can testify, baseball players and baseball writers are notorious jerks) so it was easy for them to pile on and eagerly continue the narrative of Bonds-the-bad-guy. The same is true with baseball fans, who take their lead from ESPN and baseball writers.
When slugger Jason Giambi was outed as a steroid user, he was forgiven because he admitted his sin. Bonds, on the other hand, has been viciously maligned for refusing to admit his use of performance-enhancing drugs. Never has it occurred to the peanut gallery that Bonds maybe did not knowingly take steroids. And for those who poo-poo the racial overtones of the Bonds hatred, the denial doesn't get any deeper. Just as Hank Aaron received death threats for having the temerity to break Babe Ruth's record, the racists came out of the woodwork to spew venom at Bonds as he approached Aaron's home run record. And it was all done under the cover of accusing Bonds of being a cheater. Funny, I haven't seen or heard the same level of outrage directed at other so-called cheaters.
Now I'm not here to take Bonds's side and declare that he did not use steroids. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. Hell, I barely care that other players, including Clemons, did. What is at stake here is equal treatment. Let's see how Clemens is treated after the recent revelations. Somehow, I don't see him being vilified in the same manner that Bonds was.
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Posted by: Kym525 on Dec 13, 2007 12:55 PM
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» roger clemens is no barry bonds
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Posted by: CUnknown on Dec 13, 2007 1:12 PM
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I think the reason why Bonds has been so maligned is that he broke one of basballs most cherished records directly due to the influence of 'roids. If there is anything to justify their difference in treatment (and there isn't really), it's the single-season home run record being broken by Bonds.
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Posted by: Trazom on Dec 13, 2007 1:41 PM
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Baseball is now faced with the ominous decision of either invalidating all records in the past 30 years (or at least placing asterisks next to every one) OR legalizing steriods and human growth hormone and whatever else they want to shoot into their veins. Let them kill themselves if they so decide. I do not think it farfetched that someday it may be legal. After all, they are never going to stop the players from using it if they truly want to get ahead.
But now even more fans will be leaving in droves yet again. I did myself several years ago when steroid news started breaking. That and the obscene salaries they make (without team loyalty) just didn't appeal to me anymore. There's no sense of comeradery between teammates when coaches and players are traded 2 and 3 times a year. The game, sadly, is not the same anymore.
And of course all players should be treated equally. But they are not. When Roger Maris broke Babe Ruth's single season home run record, the commissioner at the time insisted on placing an asterisk next to Maris' record, since it took him an extra 8 games to hit 61 homers (through no fault of Roger, the league extended the season from 154 games to 162 games). And take Pete Rose. If Bonds gets into the hall of fame, it's time to end the lunacy and let the man with the most career hits in as well.
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Posted by: mitchellreport2007 on Dec 13, 2007 1:54 PM
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Posted by: rockdoctor75@yahoo.com on Dec 13, 2007 2:28 PM
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Wouldn't be many left, would there?
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Posted by: kstyles on Dec 13, 2007 2:31 PM
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» We didn't create the "race card" sweetie
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» I didn't create the "race card" either
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» The difference? The others never lied to a grand jury
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Posted by: thelostsailor on Dec 13, 2007 3:50 PM
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Bonds should walk like all of the steroid boys- he lied to Congress, but never ever should have been there. Anything else is ridiculous.
I don't even think people care. They just want to see a good game. Let them turn themselves into machines with the best technology. How about we just draw a line and say none of this stuff in college sports, but let the pros become syringe pincushions!
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Posted by: argyle on Dec 13, 2007 4:31 PM
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Posted by: tommybones on Dec 13, 2007 7:19 PM
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Racism is a huge problem in this country and the world in general, but let's not cry wolf here, as it detracts from those with real gripes.
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Posted by: Amphetameme on Dec 13, 2007 7:20 PM
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"Now that we know Roger Clemens took steroids..."
And the simple fact is that you don't know. This is a "report". It is not a court of law, it's not an indictment, it's not even charges. It's hearsay, it's likely to be testimony that is unreliable -- for all the reasons Clemens and his Agent have given. So before you even start comparing Clemens and Bonds and saying there is a racial injustice of any sort in the matter, take a simple look at the fact that this entire thing is a McCarthy-istic witch hunt with little to no basis in reality.
No laws were broken, and the simple fact is, so far this entire thing is slander on Clemens and frankly also Bonds' good name.
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» They wouldn't release his name if they didn't have evidence
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» Bonds lied to a grand jury, so not sure about his "good name"
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» RE: This is all slander. Give us all a break.
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Posted by: Everitt on Dec 13, 2007 10:11 PM
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You want a REAL story of racism in baseball? Try this. I lived in the South Bronx for about 3 years, right next to Yankee Stadium. Every baseball season I would see whites coming in from Manhattan and Upstate New York to watch games that the local brown and black residents couldn't afford.
Right across the road from the stadium was the local park, a beautiful combination of running track, soccer field and a huge mass of land for the people and their kids to use. The Yankees, in conjunction with the corrupt city government grabbed that land tore it all down and are now building a new stadium. We residents fought hard to preserve that one beautiful spot in the ghetto, but big money baseball won out. Brown, black, poor? No parks for you. All those white people coming in to see the games - I bet you there parks are unmolested.
That's why it annoys the hell out of me to see good, progressive and racially conscious writers typing away in defense of an arrogant and WEALTHY meathead like Barry bonds. With his six figure salary he'll be alright.
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Posted by: Azraelsjudgement on Dec 14, 2007 5:45 AM
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Most things our federal government deals with it none of their business.
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Posted by: talkville on Dec 15, 2007 2:36 AM
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Union-busting and demonization of the worker in favor of anarchic financial capital has been the sub-text in many of the current "issues" affecting our social and cultural relations, and "issues" issue from somewhere and not vacuums or thin air.
Don't forget "Values" and the so-called "values crusade" which emerged long ago with regard to this particular aspect of it. Competition. There's Only One Winner; Look Out for Number One; Win At All Costs.
Could there be a little more behind the curtain of this report of Mr Mitchell's? Perhaps dismantling and weakening the player's association? A bit more money to the owners and a little less to the slaves and commodities?
In sports as well as all other aspects of our social relations class war is being waged. As usual, it's blame the user and not the provider. "Supply-side" social, economic and political aggressiveness. Eyes wide open, sports fans!
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Posted by: donl51 on Dec 16, 2007 4:40 PM
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Posted by: NorCalNative on Dec 22, 2007 1:27 PM
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If you used to be in the business, can you please explain why there is no outcry against the use of Amphetamines aka greenies? Why has Baseball been allowed this covert use of a controlled substance? And, how can any investigation NOT include a look at amphetamines?
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Posted by: Kym525 on Dec 13, 2007 12:55 PM
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» roger clemens is no barry bonds
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Posted by: CUnknown on Dec 13, 2007 1:12 PM
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I think the reason why Bonds has been so maligned is that he broke one of basballs most cherished records directly due to the influence of 'roids. If there is anything to justify their difference in treatment (and there isn't really), it's the single-season home run record being broken by Bonds.
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Posted by: Trazom on Dec 13, 2007 1:41 PM
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Baseball is now faced with the ominous decision of either invalidating all records in the past 30 years (or at least placing asterisks next to every one) OR legalizing steriods and human growth hormone and whatever else they want to shoot into their veins. Let them kill themselves if they so decide. I do not think it farfetched that someday it may be legal. After all, they are never going to stop the players from using it if they truly want to get ahead.
But now even more fans will be leaving in droves yet again. I did myself several years ago when steroid news started breaking. That and the obscene salaries they make (without team loyalty) just didn't appeal to me anymore. There's no sense of comeradery between teammates when coaches and players are traded 2 and 3 times a year. The game, sadly, is not the same anymore.
And of course all players should be treated equally. But they are not. When Roger Maris broke Babe Ruth's single season home run record, the commissioner at the time insisted on placing an asterisk next to Maris' record, since it took him an extra 8 games to hit 61 homers (through no fault of Roger, the league extended the season from 154 games to 162 games). And take Pete Rose. If Bonds gets into the hall of fame, it's time to end the lunacy and let the man with the most career hits in as well.
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Posted by: mitchellreport2007 on Dec 13, 2007 1:54 PM
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Posted by: rockdoctor75@yahoo.com on Dec 13, 2007 2:28 PM
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Wouldn't be many left, would there?
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Posted by: kstyles on Dec 13, 2007 2:31 PM
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» We didn't create the "race card" sweetie
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» I didn't create the "race card" either
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» RE: We didn't create the "race card" sweetie
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» The difference? The others never lied to a grand jury
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Posted by: thelostsailor on Dec 13, 2007 3:50 PM
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Bonds should walk like all of the steroid boys- he lied to Congress, but never ever should have been there. Anything else is ridiculous.
I don't even think people care. They just want to see a good game. Let them turn themselves into machines with the best technology. How about we just draw a line and say none of this stuff in college sports, but let the pros become syringe pincushions!
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Posted by: argyle on Dec 13, 2007 4:31 PM
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Posted by: tommybones on Dec 13, 2007 7:19 PM
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Racism is a huge problem in this country and the world in general, but let's not cry wolf here, as it detracts from those with real gripes.
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Posted by: Amphetameme on Dec 13, 2007 7:20 PM
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"Now that we know Roger Clemens took steroids..."
And the simple fact is that you don't know. This is a "report". It is not a court of law, it's not an indictment, it's not even charges. It's hearsay, it's likely to be testimony that is unreliable -- for all the reasons Clemens and his Agent have given. So before you even start comparing Clemens and Bonds and saying there is a racial injustice of any sort in the matter, take a simple look at the fact that this entire thing is a McCarthy-istic witch hunt with little to no basis in reality.
No laws were broken, and the simple fact is, so far this entire thing is slander on Clemens and frankly also Bonds' good name.
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» They wouldn't release his name if they didn't have evidence
Posted by: sliver
» Bonds lied to a grand jury, so not sure about his "good name"
Posted by: nochicagoboys
» RE: This is all slander. Give us all a break.
Posted by: Trazom
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Posted by: Everitt on Dec 13, 2007 10:11 PM
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You want a REAL story of racism in baseball? Try this. I lived in the South Bronx for about 3 years, right next to Yankee Stadium. Every baseball season I would see whites coming in from Manhattan and Upstate New York to watch games that the local brown and black residents couldn't afford.
Right across the road from the stadium was the local park, a beautiful combination of running track, soccer field and a huge mass of land for the people and their kids to use. The Yankees, in conjunction with the corrupt city government grabbed that land tore it all down and are now building a new stadium. We residents fought hard to preserve that one beautiful spot in the ghetto, but big money baseball won out. Brown, black, poor? No parks for you. All those white people coming in to see the games - I bet you there parks are unmolested.
That's why it annoys the hell out of me to see good, progressive and racially conscious writers typing away in defense of an arrogant and WEALTHY meathead like Barry bonds. With his six figure salary he'll be alright.
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Posted by: Azraelsjudgement on Dec 14, 2007 5:45 AM
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Most things our federal government deals with it none of their business.
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Posted by: talkville on Dec 15, 2007 2:36 AM
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Union-busting and demonization of the worker in favor of anarchic financial capital has been the sub-text in many of the current "issues" affecting our social and cultural relations, and "issues" issue from somewhere and not vacuums or thin air.
Don't forget "Values" and the so-called "values crusade" which emerged long ago with regard to this particular aspect of it. Competition. There's Only One Winner; Look Out for Number One; Win At All Costs.
Could there be a little more behind the curtain of this report of Mr Mitchell's? Perhaps dismantling and weakening the player's association? A bit more money to the owners and a little less to the slaves and commodities?
In sports as well as all other aspects of our social relations class war is being waged. As usual, it's blame the user and not the provider. "Supply-side" social, economic and political aggressiveness. Eyes wide open, sports fans!
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Posted by: donl51 on Dec 16, 2007 4:40 PM
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Posted by: NorCalNative on Dec 22, 2007 1:27 PM
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If you used to be in the business, can you please explain why there is no outcry against the use of Amphetamines aka greenies? Why has Baseball been allowed this covert use of a controlled substance? And, how can any investigation NOT include a look at amphetamines?
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