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The Best Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism
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As former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee catapults to the top of the 2008 Republican presidential race, amazed media on-lookers ponder his meteoric rise. The authentic, charismatic former minister, they say, is swaying disheartened conservative voters, especially the legions of evangelicals in Iowa and other states, disillusioned with President Bush and unimpressed with his potential successors. But despite emerging stories from his checkered past such as the Wayne Dumond affair or his past AIDS bigotry, a true portrait of Mike Huckabee as a radical reactionary and dangerous extremist has yet to be painted.
Here then, are the Top 10 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism:
1. Huckabee Calls for the Quarantine of AIDS Victims
In 1992, then Senate candidate Huckabee advocated the isolation of AIDS patients. Labeling homosexuality "an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle" which could "pose a dangerous public health risk," Huckabee called for draconian -- and discriminatory -- action:
Despite the clear understanding of AIDS transmission that emerged years earlier (even an AIDS demagogue like Ronald Reagan spoke publicly about it in 1987), Huckabee still insists (wrongly) that "we didn't know." And speaking to Fox News on Sunday, Huckabee refused to "recant" or "run from" his words in 1992.
"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague.
It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."
2. Huckabee Enables the Politically-Motivated Parole of Repeat Rapist/Murderer
As Murray Waas documented at the Huffington Post, Mike Huckabee might claim to be a man of God, but he acted a pure partisan operator in the parole of Wayne Dumond in Arkansas.
The expanding scandal surrounding Dumond, a convicted rapist, is not limited to Huckabee's direct personal involvement in securing his parole. Nor is Huckabee's disgrace merely compounded by his later denials that he had no way of knowing the dangers posed by Dumond, who went to rape and murder against after his release. (Waas produces extenstive documentation, including letters to Huckabee from Dumond's past victims.) Huckabee's abominable role is all the more shocking because it was done at the behest of conservative zealots like Steve Dunleavy and Guy Reel furious because Wayne Dumond's victim was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton who also happened to be the daughter of a prominent Arkansas Democrat.
Baselessly calling the coverage by ABC and the Huffington Post "complete exploitation" and full of "factual errors," Huckabee tried to deny his role in the Dumond affair and instead attacked the messenger:
The former minister might have been better served by rereading the Ten Commandments: you shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
"What a sad thing that in an election year, we're going to take the grief of these people...and make this a political issue, and try to point fingers and blame."
3. Huckabee Offers Faith-Based Pardons
As the AP reports, Governor Huckabee didn't merely intervene to help past and future felons for political purposes. Huckabee used his pardon power at an unprecedented rate (1,033 times over 10 1â„2 years, compared to 507 times over the 17 plus years of Bill Clinton, Frank White and Jim Guy Tucker). And as case after case shows, Huckabee was quick to offer clemency when his fellow ministers requested it.
The AP documented numerous cases of Huckabee's faith, friends and family plan for gubernatorial pardons:
As prosecutor Robert Herzfeld said in 2004, "It seems to be true at least anecdotally that if a minister is involved, (Huckabee) seems likely to grant clemency."
Donald W. Clark, convicted of theft. Huckabee's pastor recommended leniency for Clark, whose stepmother worked on Huckabee's gubernatorial staff.
Robert A. Arnold Jr., who was convicted of killing his father-in-law. Arnold's father, a former mayor of Hope, Huckabee's hometown, said he was a casual friend of the governor.
A pastor who promoted Huckabee among blacks urged the governor to grant clemency to John Henry Claiborne, who was sentenced to 100 years for a 1994 armed robbery, according to a 2004 report in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Huckabee made Claiborne eligible for parole after receiving a letter from the Rev. Charles Williams, who told the newspaper he had helped win "many, many" clemencies from Huckabee.
Whitewater figure David Hale, a government witness in the trial that forced Gov. Jim Guy Tucker's resignation and let Huckabee ascend to the office, was pardoned after being sentenced to 21 days in a state insurance case. Huckabee complained it would cost too much to hold him. The price tag: $1,200.
4. Huckabee Undermines the Teaching of Evolution
Mike Huckabee hasn't merely repeatedly proclaimed his ignorance of evolution. During his days as Arkansas Governor, he presided over efforts to undermine the teaching of Darwin's theory in the state's public schools.
Huckabee was one of the three GOP White House hopefuls at a Republican debate in May who raised his hand when asked "who doesn't believe in evolution?" And receiving the endorsements of 60 pastors in Iowa last week, Huckabee reiterated his position that:
But as the Arkansas Times detailed in 2006, then Governor Huckabee similarly claimed not to know that schools in his state were pressuring instructors not to teach evolution in the classroom. In its piece titled "Scientists Discover That Evolution is Missing from Arkansas Classrooms," the paper documented a shocking July 2004 exchange between Huckabee and a pupil on "Arkansans Ask," his regular show on the Arkansas Educational Television Network:
"I believe God created the heavens and the Earth. I wasn't there when he did it, so how he did it, I don't know.
That's an irrelevant question to ask me -- I'm happy to answer what I believe, but what I believe is not what's going to be taught in 50 different states. Education is a state function. The more state it is, and the less federal it is, the better off we are."
5. Huckabee Speaks for God
MODERATOR: Schools are dodging Darwinism? Is that what you...?
STUDENT: Yes.
HUCKABEE: I'm not familiar that they're dodging it. Maybe they are. But I think schools also ought to be fair to all views. Because, frankly, Darwinism is not an established scientific fact. It is a theory of evolution, that's why it's called the theory of evolution. And I think that what I'd be concerned with is that it should be taught as one of the views that's held by people. But it's not the only view that's held. And any time you teach one thing as that it's the only thing, then I think that has a real problem to it.
At the CNN/YouTube debate in November, Huckabee adroitly deflected a question on Jesus' position on the death penalty, announcing to applause from the GOP faithful that "Jesus was too smart to ever run for public office." But ten years earlier in 1997, Huckabee claimed unique insight into Christ's likely support for capital punishment:
6. Huckabee Speaks to God
"Interestingly enough, if there was ever an occasion for someone to have argued against the death penalty, I think Jesus could have done so on the cross and said, 'This is an unjust punishment and I deserve clemency.'"
Addressing a 2004 gathering of Republican governors, Huckabee playfully took a cell phone call from God, promising Him GOP support of His platform while assuming His backing for the Republican Party and President George W. Bush:
7. Huckabee Claims God Behind His Rise in the Polls
"We're behind [Bush], yes, sir, we sure are. Yes, sir, we know you don't take sides in the election. But, if you did, we kind of think you'd hang in there with us, Lord, we really do."
Three years after claiming God' endorsement for the GOP and President Bush, Mike Huckabee is now counting Him among his own supporters. Asked about his sudden surge in the presidential polls, Huckabee attributed the gains to His divine intervention:
Huckabee later feebly backtracked, claiming, "I'm saying that when people pray, things happen...I'm not saying that God wants me to be elected." Lord, forgive him not, for he knows what he does.
"There's only one explanation for it, and it's not a human one. It's the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000 people and that's the only way that our campaign could be doing what it's doing.
And I'm not being facetious nor am I trying to be trite. There literally are thousands of people across who are praying that a little will become much and it has, and it defies all explanation. It has confounded the pundits, and I'm enjoying every minute of their trying to figure it out. And until they look at it from a just experience beyond human, they'll never figure it out. And that's probably just as well. That's honestly why its happening."
8. Huckabee Proclaims His Theology Degree a Unique Qualification to Fight Terrorism
Minister Huckabee is quick to champion his degree from tiny Ouachita Baptist University as uniquely qualifying him for the White House. His faith-based presidency would fight the dual threats from Charles Darwin and Osama Bin Laden. In November, Huckabee tried to claim the mantle of the GOP's leading terror fighter, arguing:
Apparently, Mike Huckabee knows a theocrat when he sees one.
"I think I'm stronger than most people because I truly understand the nature of the war that we are in with Islamo fascism. These are people that want to kill us. It's a theocratic war. And I don't know if anybody fully understands that. I'm the only guy on that stage with a theology degree."
9. Huckabee Flip-Flops, Calls for Federal Abortion Ban
It comes as no surprise that the former minister is the most strident GOP presidential candidate when it comes to abortion. What is fascinating is Huckabee's turn-about on the Republican orthodoxy of states' rights.
Intent on stressing his pro-life bona fides against Fred Thompson and other GOP contenders, Huckabee in November proclaimed his support for a federal ban on abortions. Echoing Condi Rice's misappropriation of Civil War and slavery analogies for partisan political purposes:
Unfortunately for Governor Huckabee, that statement flatly contradicted the states' right approach to abortion regulation he took earlier in the year. "First of all," he said", "it should be left to the states."
"It's the logic of the Civil War," Huckabee said Sunday, comparing abortion rights to slavery. "If morality is the point here, and if it's right or wrong, not just a political question, then you can't have 50 different versions of what's right and what's wrong."
"For those of us for whom this is a moral question, you can't simply have 50 different versions of what's right," he said in an interview on "Fox News Sunday."
10. Huckabee Calls for Consumption Tax, Abolition of the IRS
Politicians and academics on both sides of the aisle have at different times called for adding a national consumption tax to encourage savings and investment. But Mike Huckabee is at the forefront of a new wave of Republicans advocating ending the income tax altogether, ensuring a massive redistribution of wealth to -- and tax burden away from -- the richest Americans.
As both Robert Novak and the Wall Street Journal suggest, Huckabee's strategy is designed to help him "avoid talk of his own checkered tax past in Little Rock."
Of course, the so-called "Fair Tax" wouldn't merely shift the tax burden down the income ladder to Americans who by necessity must spend a greater percentage of their wages and salaries on consumption. As Republican Bruce Bartlett, a deputy assistant secretary of the Treasury from 1988 to 1993, made clear, the 23% figure itself is a "deception." Bartlett argues that "professional revenue estimators have always concluded that a national retail sales tax would have to be much, much higher than 23%," and depending on how state taxes are addressed, "a rate of 64% would be required." It's no wonder Bartlett says of Huckabee and his "Fair Tax" ilk, "voters should not take seriously any candidate who supports it."
He promises to abolish the IRS, and along with it all current income, corporate, payroll and other taxes--to be replaced with a 23% national sales, or consumption, tax. He's also promised repeal of the 16th amendment--which established the income tax--to ensure Americans don't get double-taxation.
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Posted by: Laplandi on Dec 28, 2007 3:50 AM
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And what he says about evolution -- beautiful. It is a theory. A theory which says nothing, and indeed doesn't need to say anything about the existence of god.
The bit about Darwinism not being a fact is a bit shaky, but this
"...It is a theory of evolution, that's why it's called the theory of evolution. And I think that what I'd be concerned with is that it should be taught as one of the views that's held by people. But it's not the only view that's held. And any time you teach one thing as that it's the only thing, then I think that has a real problem to it..."
eminently right.
At least Mike Huckabee is a smart man...
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Posted by: paulaH on Dec 28, 2007 4:12 AM
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From what I understand, you can get the same results from selling your soul to the devil.
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Posted by: Philip Newton on Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM
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Mike Huckabee believes in the Bible.
Huckabee is also a populist, hated by the Republican corporatocracy as much as by the boutique liberals in SF and NYC.
It amuses me to see bedroom liberals in bed with corporate whores from the National Review, dragging out and warming up inaccurate slurs against one of only two candidates who is actually taking on the corporate elite. (Edwards is the other.)
Just shows to go ya: The working guy can't trust liberals any more than he can the plutocrats: they are one and the same.
Don't go about wringing your hands about how to reach the great unwashed. You never will, because you don't really want to.
Might get your hands dirty.
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Posted by: ReallyBearish on Dec 28, 2007 10:37 AM
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Now we have a case of Huckabee personally involving himself in getting a rapist/murderer free to do it again. If he's the candidate, Huck and the Repugs are history before they ever get started.
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Posted by: reval on Dec 28, 2007 10:59 AM
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We need this jackass around for a while. Not only does he provide the sane with their daily dose of halarity, he actually serves a much more useful purpose.
This bozo is certifiable
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Posted by: SgtCedar on Dec 28, 2007 11:06 AM
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The problem is he does not have a theology degree. He only attended seminary for one year. He left to go on the road as a preacher. As someone who has a degree in religion I assure you that you know nothing after one year in seminary. I got my Master of Divinity degree in 1984 and am still learning.
I do not want to hear how a degree Hucakabee never finished qualifies him to be President.
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Posted by: dudelette on Dec 28, 2007 12:33 PM
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He is a thief. He misappropriated funds to be used for the governor's mansion and used those for personal expenses. He and his family took items from the governor's mansion with them when they left, including the china.
He's a glutton, unable to control his own eating. He had to have gastric bypass surgery to lose weight to look good enough to run for president.
He's guilty of pride. He believes that he can run the most powerful government in the world, when he can't even manage his own family. His son is guilty of abusing and killing animals (a serious indicator of a possible serial killer). The entire family indulges in lying, theft and gluttony on a magnificent scale.
Huckabee seems to forget this verse:
"Not every one who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you, Depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness." (Matthew 7:21)
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Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM
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http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home
No different from the current president. Don't worry, if he "pleases" Pat Robertson and Grover Norquist, he'll "pass".
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Posted by: BlueSun on Dec 28, 2007 2:18 PM
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For example, "But, Your Honor, I don't deserve this parking ticket. The sign said Fine for Parking, so I parked there."
While one general meaning of "theory" implies a guess about some event or phenomenon, in scientific treminology, that would be called a "hypothesis." A scientific theory is one backed by massive amounts of evidence, tested again and again, and confirmed to be true.
One doesn't talk about the theory of electromagnetism or the theory of gravity as being "just a theory." Until the day that an apple falls off a tree and falls up into the sky, the "theory" of gravity will be accepted as fact.
The theory of evolution is at least as exhaustively proven to be true as these other examples.
Mr. Huckabee is either being disingenuous in his sophistry, or simply lacks the education (or possibly the intelligence) to comprehend the logical fallacy he is employing.
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Dec 30, 2007 10:04 AM
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becomes president, he could cause the collapse of civilization. See "The Long
Summer" by Brian Fagan. Climate change has caused the collapse of many
civilizations, and is well on the way to causing the collapse of our civilization.
Religion has contributed to the collapse of many civilizations in the past.
Christianity contributed to the collapse of the Greenland Viking civilization
according to "Collapse, How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared
Diamond. Religious extremism is an indication that civilization is about to
collapse. In order to avoid collapse, we need to do the opposite of what Huckabee
advocates. We need to abandon old values that will lead us to make global
warming worse, and accept new values that will stop and reverse global warming.
Drastic action is required to prevent us humans from going extinct according to
"Six Degrees" by Mark Lynos.
Notice that the Mayor of Atlanta's prayers did not work. Huckabee will not be
able to conjure up a god to help end the drought either, because there is no god.
Greece, Turkey, the Sahel, China and California are also having the same drought.
The only cure is to put the climate back the way it was before we messed with
Mother Nature. If we keep on obeying old christian values like trying to "subdue
the earth," the drought will only get worse. The next dust bowl will be far worse
than the last one. YOU will be among those who starve. Nature cannot be fooled
or subdued, not even by Huckabee.
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Dec 30, 2007 12:06 PM
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If you like the Taliban you will LOVE this guy. He is as ignorant as they are.
If you vote for him you get what you deserve.
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Fundamentalists have an irrational commitment to their religious beliefs, and terminally closed minds. I don't mind religious persons in general, and am myself deeply spiritual in my approach to life, but I do not adhere to any one religious tradition or believe there is only one way to be connected to the sacred.
Christian (or Muslim) fundamentalists are dangerous in their belief that they are doing "God's work" while they are in fact spreading hatred and fear.
God is Big. Fundamentalists make the mistake of seeing god as being as small as they are.
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Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee attended a fundraiser for himself in December 2007, and it was held at the Houston, Texas home of a self-proclaimed Christian Restorationist, Dr. Steven Hotze, a person others would describe as a Christian Reconstructionist.
As an aside, Dr.Hotze has also been cited by Quackwatch as spreading dubious medical information to the public (for his own profit as it turns out.)
Dr. Hotze has long advocated, as do all Christian Reconstructionists, that the government should enforce biblical law. Many Reconstructionists apparently believe this means re-instituting slavery, executing homosexuals, adulterers, practicing Jews, Muslims, Hindus and non-fundamentalist Christians such as Catholics or Episcopalians (go to http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm).
According to "Talk To Action," Hotze has said, "There is no neutrality. Civil government will either reflect biblical Christianity or it will reflect anti-Christian positions." ( http://www.talk2action.org/story/2005/11/23/85532/138 .)
Hotze also signed a Manifesto that endorsed the following: "We affirm that the laws of man must be based upon the laws of God. We deny that the laws of man have any inherent authority of their own or that their ultimate authority is rightly derived from or created by man."
Doesn't this imply that an endorser does not recognize the laws of the United States? Of course, all of this is the opposite of the American idea that a government derives its authority from the consent of the governed.
Why is Mike Huckabee having a fundraiser at the home of a person such as this? Why would such a person support Huckabee?
Would some other candidate get away with associating with such an extremist—if he were not a religious extremist?
If it has not become apparent already, the active endorsement of a staunch extreme American Taliban-like Christian such as Dr. Steven Hotze should make one wonder; is Minister Mike Huckabee on a mission to make our laws conform to the only authority he and they actually recognize; the God of the Bible?
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Posted by: Laplandi on Dec 28, 2007 3:50 AM
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And what he says about evolution -- beautiful. It is a theory. A theory which says nothing, and indeed doesn't need to say anything about the existence of god.
The bit about Darwinism not being a fact is a bit shaky, but this
"...It is a theory of evolution, that's why it's called the theory of evolution. And I think that what I'd be concerned with is that it should be taught as one of the views that's held by people. But it's not the only view that's held. And any time you teach one thing as that it's the only thing, then I think that has a real problem to it..."
eminently right.
At least Mike Huckabee is a smart man...
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Posted by: paulaH on Dec 28, 2007 4:12 AM
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From what I understand, you can get the same results from selling your soul to the devil.
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Posted by: Philip Newton on Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM
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Mike Huckabee believes in the Bible.
Huckabee is also a populist, hated by the Republican corporatocracy as much as by the boutique liberals in SF and NYC.
It amuses me to see bedroom liberals in bed with corporate whores from the National Review, dragging out and warming up inaccurate slurs against one of only two candidates who is actually taking on the corporate elite. (Edwards is the other.)
Just shows to go ya: The working guy can't trust liberals any more than he can the plutocrats: they are one and the same.
Don't go about wringing your hands about how to reach the great unwashed. You never will, because you don't really want to.
Might get your hands dirty.
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» Is he attacking the the cause of national poverty? Yes.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on Dec 28, 2007 9:12 AM
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Posted by: ReallyBearish on Dec 28, 2007 10:37 AM
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Now we have a case of Huckabee personally involving himself in getting a rapist/murderer free to do it again. If he's the candidate, Huck and the Repugs are history before they ever get started.
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Posted by: reval on Dec 28, 2007 10:59 AM
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We need this jackass around for a while. Not only does he provide the sane with their daily dose of halarity, he actually serves a much more useful purpose.
This bozo is certifiable
~Rev. El
Pastor, WVCSR
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Posted by: SgtCedar on Dec 28, 2007 11:06 AM
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The problem is he does not have a theology degree. He only attended seminary for one year. He left to go on the road as a preacher. As someone who has a degree in religion I assure you that you know nothing after one year in seminary. I got my Master of Divinity degree in 1984 and am still learning.
I do not want to hear how a degree Hucakabee never finished qualifies him to be President.
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Posted by: dudelette on Dec 28, 2007 12:33 PM
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He is a thief. He misappropriated funds to be used for the governor's mansion and used those for personal expenses. He and his family took items from the governor's mansion with them when they left, including the china.
He's a glutton, unable to control his own eating. He had to have gastric bypass surgery to lose weight to look good enough to run for president.
He's guilty of pride. He believes that he can run the most powerful government in the world, when he can't even manage his own family. His son is guilty of abusing and killing animals (a serious indicator of a possible serial killer). The entire family indulges in lying, theft and gluttony on a magnificent scale.
Huckabee seems to forget this verse:
"Not every one who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you, Depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness." (Matthew 7:21)
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Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM
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http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home
No different from the current president. Don't worry, if he "pleases" Pat Robertson and Grover Norquist, he'll "pass".
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Posted by: BlueSun on Dec 28, 2007 2:18 PM
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For example, "But, Your Honor, I don't deserve this parking ticket. The sign said Fine for Parking, so I parked there."
While one general meaning of "theory" implies a guess about some event or phenomenon, in scientific treminology, that would be called a "hypothesis." A scientific theory is one backed by massive amounts of evidence, tested again and again, and confirmed to be true.
One doesn't talk about the theory of electromagnetism or the theory of gravity as being "just a theory." Until the day that an apple falls off a tree and falls up into the sky, the "theory" of gravity will be accepted as fact.
The theory of evolution is at least as exhaustively proven to be true as these other examples.
Mr. Huckabee is either being disingenuous in his sophistry, or simply lacks the education (or possibly the intelligence) to comprehend the logical fallacy he is employing.
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Posted by: gradioc on Dec 28, 2007 4:12 PM
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Dec 30, 2007 10:04 AM
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becomes president, he could cause the collapse of civilization. See "The Long
Summer" by Brian Fagan. Climate change has caused the collapse of many
civilizations, and is well on the way to causing the collapse of our civilization.
Religion has contributed to the collapse of many civilizations in the past.
Christianity contributed to the collapse of the Greenland Viking civilization
according to "Collapse, How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared
Diamond. Religious extremism is an indication that civilization is about to
collapse. In order to avoid collapse, we need to do the opposite of what Huckabee
advocates. We need to abandon old values that will lead us to make global
warming worse, and accept new values that will stop and reverse global warming.
Drastic action is required to prevent us humans from going extinct according to
"Six Degrees" by Mark Lynos.
Notice that the Mayor of Atlanta's prayers did not work. Huckabee will not be
able to conjure up a god to help end the drought either, because there is no god.
Greece, Turkey, the Sahel, China and California are also having the same drought.
The only cure is to put the climate back the way it was before we messed with
Mother Nature. If we keep on obeying old christian values like trying to "subdue
the earth," the drought will only get worse. The next dust bowl will be far worse
than the last one. YOU will be among those who starve. Nature cannot be fooled
or subdued, not even by Huckabee.
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Dec 30, 2007 12:06 PM
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If you like the Taliban you will LOVE this guy. He is as ignorant as they are.
If you vote for him you get what you deserve.
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Posted by: Shakti on Jan 4, 2008 5:30 PM
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Fundamentalists have an irrational commitment to their religious beliefs, and terminally closed minds. I don't mind religious persons in general, and am myself deeply spiritual in my approach to life, but I do not adhere to any one religious tradition or believe there is only one way to be connected to the sacred.
Christian (or Muslim) fundamentalists are dangerous in their belief that they are doing "God's work" while they are in fact spreading hatred and fear.
God is Big. Fundamentalists make the mistake of seeing god as being as small as they are.
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Posted by: GerryDantone on Jan 8, 2008 2:24 PM
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Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee attended a fundraiser for himself in December 2007, and it was held at the Houston, Texas home of a self-proclaimed Christian Restorationist, Dr. Steven Hotze, a person others would describe as a Christian Reconstructionist.
As an aside, Dr.Hotze has also been cited by Quackwatch as spreading dubious medical information to the public (for his own profit as it turns out.)
Dr. Hotze has long advocated, as do all Christian Reconstructionists, that the government should enforce biblical law. Many Reconstructionists apparently believe this means re-instituting slavery, executing homosexuals, adulterers, practicing Jews, Muslims, Hindus and non-fundamentalist Christians such as Catholics or Episcopalians (go to http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm).
According to "Talk To Action," Hotze has said, "There is no neutrality. Civil government will either reflect biblical Christianity or it will reflect anti-Christian positions." ( http://www.talk2action.org/story/2005/11/23/85532/138 .)
Hotze also signed a Manifesto that endorsed the following: "We affirm that the laws of man must be based upon the laws of God. We deny that the laws of man have any inherent authority of their own or that their ultimate authority is rightly derived from or created by man."
Doesn't this imply that an endorser does not recognize the laws of the United States? Of course, all of this is the opposite of the American idea that a government derives its authority from the consent of the governed.
Why is Mike Huckabee having a fundraiser at the home of a person such as this? Why would such a person support Huckabee?
Would some other candidate get away with associating with such an extremist—if he were not a religious extremist?
If it has not become apparent already, the active endorsement of a staunch extreme American Taliban-like Christian such as Dr. Steven Hotze should make one wonder; is Minister Mike Huckabee on a mission to make our laws conform to the only authority he and they actually recognize; the God of the Bible?
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