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The Best Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism

By Avenging Angel, Daily Kos. Posted December 28, 2007.


Mike Huckabee's conservative and religious views are both radical and frightening.

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As former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee catapults to the top of the 2008 Republican presidential race, amazed media on-lookers ponder his meteoric rise.  The authentic, charismatic former minister, they say, is swaying disheartened conservative voters, especially the legions of evangelicals in Iowa and other states, disillusioned with President Bush and unimpressed with his potential successors.  But despite emerging stories from his checkered past such as the Wayne Dumond affair or his past AIDS bigotry, a true portrait of Mike Huckabee as a radical reactionary and dangerous extremist has yet to be painted.

Here then, are the Top 10 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism:

1. Huckabee Calls for the Quarantine of AIDS Victims
In 1992, then Senate candidate Huckabee advocated the isolation of AIDS patients. Labeling homosexuality "an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle" which could "pose a dangerous public health risk," Huckabee called for draconian -- and discriminatory -- action:

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague.

It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."

Despite the clear understanding of AIDS transmission that emerged years earlier (even an AIDS demagogue like Ronald Reagan spoke publicly about it in 1987), Huckabee still insists (wrongly) that "we didn't know."  And speaking to Fox News on Sunday, Huckabee refused to "recant" or "run from" his words in 1992.

2. Huckabee Enables the Politically-Motivated Parole of Repeat Rapist/Murderer
As Murray Waas documented at the Huffington Post, Mike Huckabee might claim to be a man of God, but he acted a pure partisan operator in the parole of Wayne Dumond in Arkansas.  

The expanding scandal surrounding Dumond, a convicted rapist, is not limited to Huckabee's direct personal involvement in securing his parole.  Nor is Huckabee's disgrace merely compounded by his later denials that he had no way of knowing the dangers posed by Dumond, who went to rape and murder against after his release.  (Waas produces extenstive documentation, including letters to Huckabee from Dumond's past victims.)  Huckabee's abominable role is all the more shocking because it was done at the behest of conservative zealots like Steve Dunleavy and Guy Reel furious because Wayne Dumond's victim was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton who also happened to be the daughter of a prominent Arkansas Democrat.

Baselessly calling the coverage by ABC and the Huffington Post "complete exploitation" and full of "factual errors," Huckabee tried to deny his role in the Dumond affair and instead attacked the messenger:

"What a sad thing that in an election year, we're going to take the grief of these people...and make this a political issue, and try to point fingers and blame."


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extrimism? mostly in the avenging angel's comments
Posted by: Laplandi on Dec 28, 2007 3:50 AM   
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The article left me with an impression that MH's conservative and religious views are actually reasonable -- while avenging angel is a bit of a fanatic... I don't know what percentage of what Huckabee says is pure propaganda -- but if a part of it is true -- he doesn't seem so bad.
And what he says about evolution -- beautiful. It is a theory. A theory which says nothing, and indeed doesn't need to say anything about the existence of god.
The bit about Darwinism not being a fact is a bit shaky, but this
"...It is a theory of evolution, that's why it's called the theory of evolution. And I think that what I'd be concerned with is that it should be taught as one of the views that's held by people. But it's not the only view that's held. And any time you teach one thing as that it's the only thing, then I think that has a real problem to it..."
eminently right.
At least Mike Huckabee is a smart man...

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» Oops Posted by: stevewilkesuk
» ahh, the blind dogmatism Posted by: Laplandi
» RE: ahh, the blind dogmatism Posted by: phatkhat
» The world turned upside down Posted by: Philip Newton
Ahhh, but who's the force behind it?
Posted by: paulaH on Dec 28, 2007 4:12 AM   
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"There's only one explanation for it, and it's not a human one.

From what I understand, you can get the same results from selling your soul to the devil.

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Huckabee ok
Posted by: Michael Litz on Dec 28, 2007 6:22 AM   
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Mike Huckabee is simply a principled, intelligent, articulate man who happens to be one of tens of millions of people in this country who are people of deep religious faith. He cares about the people and future of this country and wants to participate in the political process by which positive changes can be made. If you would like to see him and all other such people of faith be disqualified from the political process who is the real extremist? Perhaps you would be more at home in one of the communist countries where religious faith IS a dis-qualifier for public office!

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» RE: Huckabee ok Posted by: hotar
» RE: Huckabee ok Posted by: boller
» RE: Huckabee ok Posted by: bitsfick
» RE: Huckabee ok Posted by: bitsfick
» RE: Huckabee ok Posted by: CatDad
Vote for Huckabee!
Posted by: hotar on Dec 28, 2007 6:33 AM   
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This guy doesn't stand a chance in a national election; he's too backward and extreme, and the only people who will seriously consider electing him will be the religious rightwingers. The Republican (corporate, secular) power elite will do anything to keep him from being elected. So I suggest that, if you have the opportunity, you vote for him in your state primary. Muddy the waters!

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Two missing
Posted by: Gravitas on Dec 28, 2007 6:36 AM   
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I am disappointed that his mandate to put weight on kids report cards didn't make the list. Because we are in the middle of a antifat hysteria deviance scare, we don't recognize it as exteme. However, most eating disorder therapists were horrified. A good percentage of 4th grade girls are already on diets. Weight on report cards only leads to eating disorders, including binge diet which is a factor in obesity. Of course someone as unscientific as the huck would never get that. He was one of the minority of fat people that were true gluttons and he has no clue a 4th grade girl has an entirely different experience with body image than himself. Truly a dunce of a dieting demigogue!

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» RE: Two missing Posted by: data23
Heh... many AlterNet posters maybe in tune w/Huck on #10
Posted by: war_on_tara on Dec 28, 2007 7:19 AM   
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Re: #10 Abolishing the Income Tax, see the wilder comments to the Chris Hedges article from The Nation, 11/27/07, in which many AlterNet posters believe the income tax to be somehow unconstitutional despite the 16th Amendment.

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Is this the best you can do?
Posted by: Philip Newton on Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM   
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Newsflash:

Mike Huckabee believes in the Bible.

Huckabee is also a populist, hated by the Republican corporatocracy as much as by the boutique liberals in SF and NYC.

It amuses me to see bedroom liberals in bed with corporate whores from the National Review, dragging out and warming up inaccurate slurs against one of only two candidates who is actually taking on the corporate elite. (Edwards is the other.)

Just shows to go ya: The working guy can't trust liberals any more than he can the plutocrats: they are one and the same.

Don't go about wringing your hands about how to reach the great unwashed. You never will, because you don't really want to.

Might get your hands dirty.

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The Chosen One
Posted by: QQOblivion on Dec 28, 2007 9:12 AM   
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Sucky Hucky is bound to be our next president. Why? 'Cause God is on his side. (Huckabee says so.) And God, I suspect, is not the all-good Being many think He is, but is instead an angry insane deity waiting to sock it to the US and the world BIG TIME with the appointment of His divinely-chosen puppet-dictator.

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Crazy
Posted by: willymack on Dec 28, 2007 10:33 AM   
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I don't think anyone looking at the facts of huckaboo's "philosophy" and "logic" could possibly come to any other conclusion that he's crazy, nuts, loonie tunes, well, you get the picture (Ihope).

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Wayne Dumond is Huck's Willie Horton
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Dec 28, 2007 10:37 AM   
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Remember how that one KO'd the Dems? Remember that Duckakus had nothing to do with Willie Horton. He was out based on the policy of the MA prison system.

Now we have a case of Huckabee personally involving himself in getting a rapist/murderer free to do it again. If he's the candidate, Huck and the Repugs are history before they ever get started.

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Insanity test
Posted by: reval on Dec 28, 2007 10:59 AM   
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Hulkelberry's candidacy is a lithmus test for the degree of insanity and abject stupidity that has infested our country. In many respects, he's like a songbird in a coal mine. Want to get a fairly good grip on how dumbified and lobotomized America has become? Just watch Huckelberry's support numbers. It's the perfect measuring stick.

We need this jackass around for a while. Not only does he provide the sane with their daily dose of halarity, he actually serves a much more useful purpose.

This bozo is certifiable
~Rev. El
Pastor, WVCSR

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» RE: Insanity test Posted by: djcrow22
Hucabee's Theology Degree?
Posted by: SgtCedar on Dec 28, 2007 11:06 AM   
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"Huckabee Proclaims His Theology Degree a Unique Qualification to Fight Terrorism."

The problem is he does not have a theology degree. He only attended seminary for one year. He left to go on the road as a preacher. As someone who has a degree in religion I assure you that you know nothing after one year in seminary. I got my Master of Divinity degree in 1984 and am still learning.

I do not want to hear how a degree Hucakabee never finished qualifies him to be President.

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Huckabee is not a man of principle
Posted by: dudelette on Dec 28, 2007 12:33 PM   
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Huckabee is a liar, the most obvious lie being his statement that he has a theology degree. He does not.

He is a thief. He misappropriated funds to be used for the governor's mansion and used those for personal expenses. He and his family took items from the governor's mansion with them when they left, including the china.

He's a glutton, unable to control his own eating. He had to have gastric bypass surgery to lose weight to look good enough to run for president.

He's guilty of pride. He believes that he can run the most powerful government in the world, when he can't even manage his own family. His son is guilty of abusing and killing animals (a serious indicator of a possible serial killer). The entire family indulges in lying, theft and gluttony on a magnificent scale.

Huckabee seems to forget this verse:

"Not every one who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you, Depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness." (Matthew 7:21)

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Here's Mike Huckabee's real economic, environmental, and foreign policy stands he plans to stay on
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM   
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once he's in the White House that is:

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home

No different from the current president. Don't worry, if he "pleases" Pat Robertson and Grover Norquist, he'll "pass".

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Huckabee is another nutcase that has no business in local let alone national politics.
Posted by: yellow on Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM   
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Enough is enough. Huckabee is a nutcase.

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Huckabee's Logical Fallacy
Posted by: BlueSun on Dec 28, 2007 2:18 PM   
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Huckabee repeats the old, discredited charge about the "theory" of evolution. He plays on a logical fallacy known as the Fallacy of Ambiguity, in which a word can have several meanings and one intentionally uses a meaning other than the one that was originally intended.

For example, "But, Your Honor, I don't deserve this parking ticket. The sign said Fine for Parking, so I parked there."

While one general meaning of "theory" implies a guess about some event or phenomenon, in scientific treminology, that would be called a "hypothesis." A scientific theory is one backed by massive amounts of evidence, tested again and again, and confirmed to be true.

One doesn't talk about the theory of electromagnetism or the theory of gravity as being "just a theory." Until the day that an apple falls off a tree and falls up into the sky, the "theory" of gravity will be accepted as fact.

The theory of evolution is at least as exhaustively proven to be true as these other examples.

Mr. Huckabee is either being disingenuous in his sophistry, or simply lacks the education (or possibly the intelligence) to comprehend the logical fallacy he is employing.

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» RE: LAW of Gravity Posted by: PhilM
Huckabee's Degree
Posted by: gradioc on Dec 28, 2007 4:12 PM   
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Just doing some truth-squading here, please don't take it to mean I like Mike. It just seemed like a pretty stupid and obvious lie to claim a college degree he did not have. A high school jounalism student would check that. Quick online research seems to indicate Huckabee obtained a Bachelor Of Religion from Quachita Baptist University, completed in two and a half years, before he went to Southwest Baptist Seminary. A little more research on Quachita (I had never heard of it, but that's not surprising with a small liberal arts school) indicates it is is a real university, not a preacher diploma mill, mostly awarding BA's with a few BS's and Bachelors of Religion. Perhaps the posters saying he does not have such a degree know things I don't, but, again, hard to believe no one in the national press or the other campaigns aren't busting his ass. I bet Mitt Romney's people have checked to make sure that degree is real.

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Huckabee's Miracle Is Real!
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Dec 28, 2007 8:03 PM   
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Huckabee's rise in the polls does call to mind a biblical miracle, but not the loaves and fish. It's more like the herd of demon-infested swine who ran blindly off a cliff.

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Huckabee and Religion cause civilization Collapse
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Dec 30, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Mike Huckabee is more dangerous than George W. Bush. If Mike Huckabee
becomes president, he could cause the collapse of civilization. See "The Long
Summer" by Brian Fagan. Climate change has caused the collapse of many
civilizations, and is well on the way to causing the collapse of our civilization.
Religion has contributed to the collapse of many civilizations in the past.
Christianity contributed to the collapse of the Greenland Viking civilization
according to "Collapse, How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared
Diamond. Religious extremism is an indication that civilization is about to
collapse. In order to avoid collapse, we need to do the opposite of what Huckabee
advocates. We need to abandon old values that will lead us to make global
warming worse, and accept new values that will stop and reverse global warming.
Drastic action is required to prevent us humans from going extinct according to
"Six Degrees" by Mark Lynos.

Notice that the Mayor of Atlanta's prayers did not work. Huckabee will not be
able to conjure up a god to help end the drought either, because there is no god.
Greece, Turkey, the Sahel, China and California are also having the same drought.
The only cure is to put the climate back the way it was before we messed with
Mother Nature. If we keep on obeying old christian values like trying to "subdue
the earth," the drought will only get worse. The next dust bowl will be far worse
than the last one. YOU will be among those who starve. Nature cannot be fooled
or subdued, not even by Huckabee.

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What You Need to Know
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Dec 30, 2007 12:06 PM   
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All you need to know about Mike Huckabee can be summed up this way: He is a fundamentalist minister who doesn't believe in science.

If you like the Taliban you will LOVE this guy. He is as ignorant as they are.

If you vote for him you get what you deserve.

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fundamentalists of any stripe are scary
Posted by: Shakti on Jan 4, 2008 5:30 PM   
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Huckabee seems nice and has a name that sounds like an old fashioned dessert served with warm custard sauce, but do not be fooled. He is a fundamentalist and like all such people, very dangerous.

Fundamentalists have an irrational commitment to their religious beliefs, and terminally closed minds. I don't mind religious persons in general, and am myself deeply spiritual in my approach to life, but I do not adhere to any one religious tradition or believe there is only one way to be connected to the sacred.

Christian (or Muslim) fundamentalists are dangerous in their belief that they are doing "God's work" while they are in fact spreading hatred and fear.

God is Big. Fundamentalists make the mistake of seeing god as being as small as they are.

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Huckabee & Christian Reconstructionists
Posted by: GerryDantone on Jan 8, 2008 2:24 PM   
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So, what else could possibly be even worse with presidential candidate Mike Huckabee?

Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee attended a fundraiser for himself in December 2007, and it was held at the Houston, Texas home of a self-proclaimed Christian Restorationist, Dr. Steven Hotze, a person others would describe as a Christian Reconstructionist.

As an aside, Dr.Hotze has also been cited by Quackwatch as spreading dubious medical information to the public (for his own profit as it turns out.)

Dr. Hotze has long advocated, as do all Christian Reconstructionists, that the government should enforce biblical law. Many Reconstructionists apparently believe this means re-instituting slavery, executing homosexuals, adulterers, practicing Jews, Muslims, Hindus and non-fundamentalist Christians such as Catholics or Episcopalians (go to http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm).

According to "Talk To Action," Hotze has said, "There is no neutrality. Civil government will either reflect biblical Christianity or it will reflect anti-Christian positions." ( http://www.talk2action.org/story/2005/11/23/85532/138 .)

Hotze also signed a Manifesto that endorsed the following: "We affirm that the laws of man must be based upon the laws of God. We deny that the laws of man have any inherent authority of their own or that their ultimate authority is rightly derived from or created by man."

Doesn't this imply that an endorser does not recognize the laws of the United States? Of course, all of this is the opposite of the American idea that a government derives its authority from the consent of the governed.

Why is Mike Huckabee having a fundraiser at the home of a person such as this? Why would such a person support Huckabee?

Would some other candidate get away with associating with such an extremist—if he were not a religious extremist?

If it has not become apparent already, the active endorsement of a staunch extreme American Taliban-like Christian such as Dr. Steven Hotze should make one wonder; is Minister Mike Huckabee on a mission to make our laws conform to the only authority he and they actually recognize; the God of the Bible?

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