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The Perfect Storm of Campaign 2008

By Steve Fraser, Tomdispatch.com. Posted December 10, 2007.


War, economic collapse, and the political implosion of the Republican Party will make 2008 a year to remember.

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Will the presidential election of 2008 mark a turning point in American political history? Will it terminate with extreme prejudice the conservative ascendancy that has dominated the country for the last generation? No matter the haplessness of the Democratic opposition, the answer is yes.

With Richard Nixon's victory in the 1968 presidential election, a new political order first triumphed over New Deal liberalism. It was an historic victory that one-time Republican strategist and now political critic Kevin Phillips memorably anointed the "emerging Republican majority." Now, that Republican "majority" finds itself in a systemic crisis from which there is no escape.

Only at moments of profound shock to the old order of things -- the Great Depression of the 1930s or the coming together of imperial war, racial confrontation, and de-industrialization in the late 1960s and 1970s -- does this kind of upheaval become possible in a political universe renowned for its stability, banality, and extraordinary capacity to duck things that matter. The trauma must be real and it must be perceived by people as traumatic. Both conditions now apply.

War, economic collapse, and the political implosion of the Republican Party will make 2008 a year to remember.

The Politics of Fear in Reverse

Iraq is an albatross that, all by itself, could sink the ship of state. At this point, there's no need to rehearse the polling numbers that register the no-looking-back abandonment of this colossal misadventure by most Americans. No cosmetic fix, like the "surge," can, in the end, make a difference -- because large majorities decided long ago that the invasion was a fiasco, and because the geopolitical and geo-economic objectives of the Bush administration leave no room for a genuine Iraqi nationalism which would be the only way out of this mess.

The fatal impact of the President's adventure in Iraq, however, runs far deeper than that. It has undermined the politics of fear which, above all else, had sustained the Bush administration. According to the latest polls, the Democrats who rate national security a key concern has shrunk to a percentage bordering on the statistically irrelevant. Independents display a similar "been there, done that" attitude. Republicans do express significantly greater levels of alarm, but far lower than a year or two ago.

In fact, the politics of fear may now be operating in reverse. The chronic belligerence of the Bush administration, especially in the last year with respect to Iran, and the cartoonish saber-rattling of Republican presidential candidates (whether genuine or because they believe themselves captives of the Bush legacy) is scary. Its only promise seems to be endless war for purposes few understand or are ready to salute. To paraphrase Franklin Delano Roosevelt, for many people now, the only thing to fear is the politics of fear itself.

And then there is the war on the Constitution. Randolph Bourne, a public intellectual writing around the time of World War I, is remembered today for one trenchant observation: that war is the health of the state. Mobilizing for war invites the cancerous growth of the bureaucratic state apparatus and its power over everyday life. Like some over-ripe fruit this kind of war-borne "healthiness" is today visibly morphing into its opposite -- what we might call the "sickness of the state."

The constitutional transgressions of the executive branch and its abrogation of the powers reserved to the other two branches of government are, by now, reasonably well known. Most of this aggressive over-reaching has been encouraged by the imperial hubris exemplified by the invasion of Iraq. It would be short-sighted to think that this only disturbs the equanimity of a small circle of civil libertarians. There is a long-lived and robust tradition in American political life always resentful of this kind of statism. In part, this helps account for wholesale defections from the Republican Party by those who believe it has been kidnapped by political elites masquerading as down-home, "live free or die" conservatives.

Now, add potential economic collapse to this witches brew. Even the soberest economy watchers, pundits with PhDs -- whose dismal record in predicting anything tempts me not to mention this -- are prophesying dark times ahead. Depression -- or a slump so deep it's not worth quibbling about the difference -- is evidently on the way; indeed is already underway. The economics of militarism have been a mainstay of business stability for more than half century; but now, as in the Vietnam era, deficits incurred to finance invasion only exacerbate a much more embracing dilemma.

Start with the confidence game being run out of Wall Street; after all, the subprime mortgage debacle now occupies newspaper front pages day after outrageous day. Certainly, these tales of greed and financial malfeasance are numbingly familiar. Yet, precisely that sense of déjà vu all over again, of Enron revisited, of an endless cascade of scandalous, irrational behavior affecting the central financial institutions of our world suggests just how dire things have become.


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Steve Fraser is a writer and editor, as well as the co-founder of the American Empire Project. He is the author of Every Man a Speculator: A History of Wall Street in American Life. His latest book, Wall Street: America's Dream Palace, will be published by Yale University Press in March 2008.

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Yes we know,
Posted by: abbadon2007 on Dec 10, 2007 12:13 AM   
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Now, kindly let's all remember not to get complacent. It was the perfect storm back in 2004 also, and the democrats sat back, content and secure.

I remember feeling positively jubilant about the certainly that the country couldn't possible re-elect the George Dumbass Bush, when it exploded like so many 4th of july mortars in my face.

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» RE: Yes we know, Posted by: VZEQICVA
» I disagree... Posted by: Old Me
I Don't Believe It
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Dec 10, 2007 1:23 AM   
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I wish I could agree with this optimistic analysis, but I can't accept the author's premise of a clear, broad dichotomy in philosophy between the Republicans and the Democrats. Certainly the Democratic frontrunner for the presidency, Hillary Clinton, is a neocon. She voted for the war, torture and most of Bush's agenda. Schumer and Feinstein, inter alia, voted to confirm Mukasey. The Democratically controlled Congress has been handing carte blanche to the Bush-Cheney regime. The same lobbyists and corporate interests buy their allegiance, too. If only the world were so Manichean, but alas it isn't.

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» RE: I Don't Believe It Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: I Don't Believe It Posted by: nochicagoboys
» RE: I Don't Believe It Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: I Don't Believe It Posted by: VannaLaRoche
» RE: I Don't Believe It Posted by: CanadianTheorist
» RE: I Don't Believe It Posted by: CanadianTheorist
T'Ain't Over Till It's Over
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 10, 2007 3:25 AM   
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Let's not be too hasty in predicting the collapse of the GOP's chances at the polls next year. Remember, the Democrats are about to stupidly nominate the one candidate who can't possibly winn next year. If Hillary Clinton is given the nomination at the convention next summer, be prepared for four more years of Republican rule in the White House.

The Democrats need a standard bearer next year who will inspire the base and Mrs. Clinton is not the person who will do that. The fact that she was stupid enough to give the First Fool the authority to invade Iraq without the constitutionally mandated congressional approval is all the evidence you need.

If she is the nominee, there will be a third party uprising next year that will destroy the Democrats - Count on it.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Spin, Smoke and Mirrors

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» Tom, while I agree with you... Posted by: rockpicker
» RE: Yes, but... Posted by: greenman
» RE: T'Ain't Over Till It's Over Posted by: monkeywrench
» RE: T'Ain't Over Till It's Over Posted by: rocketman
» RE: Yes, Posted by: oregoncharles
I disagree to part and agree with part.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 10, 2007 3:58 AM   
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In my opinion,there are two mistakes we can make. The first, of course, is to be, as other commenters have pointed out, overconfident.

The other is to believe that
"the opposition is vacillating, incoherent, and weak-willed -- labels critics have reasonably pinned on the Democrats?" is true.

The Democrats are financed by the same corporate elite as the Republicans. They're not opposition; they are the other side of the same coin.

I agree with the author's statement:
"I don't think it will matter, not in the short run at least."

Unless we, the people, take the control of our government from the corporate establishment, it won't matter in the long run either.
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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» RE: GrannyBgood Posted by: Lincoln fan
Implosion?
Posted by: xi_people on Dec 10, 2007 4:07 AM   
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How about the synchronous implosion of the dimocrat party? How about the complete implosion of the entire political process, due to the widespread loss of confidence in its effectiveness?

No astute political observer could have missed the absolute lack of faith in the dimocrats to accomplish anything on the people's behalf. It should be crystal clear by now that the entire system is irrevocably broken, with both parties steeped in corruption and owned by corporate and governmental warmongers.

I posit that articles such as this are deliberately misleading, and mirrors similar screeds that appeared before the 2004 presidential 'election' and the 2006 congressional elections. Each falsely raised the hopes of the gullible by assuring that the rotten repukelican policies would result in a massive collapse that dimocrats would enormously profit from.

Its all part of the game to fool enough people into continuing to believe that the electoral process actually works, and that the dimocrats are an actual party of opposition -- which they aren't.

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» I agree 100%. Posted by: CUnknown
» RE: Implosion? Posted by: rocketman
obla-di obla-da
Posted by: sre on Dec 10, 2007 4:49 AM   
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"Life goes on. Sha la la la life goes on." Quoting an old Beatles song from the 1960s. It says a lot about the present situation. Life goes on as it always has. Some have good fortune, some don't. Those in unfortunate circumstances are quite vocal and blame those more fortunate. But the status-quo always returns in the end.
Another story to remember is the one about the boy who cried wolf... but there was never a wolf. Society will continue just as it always has. Life goes on. It just has its ups and downs ad infinitum.

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» RE: obla-di obla-da Posted by: shinseiji
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» RE: obla-di obla-da Posted by: Lincoln fan
Don't be too optimistic
Posted by: riley on Dec 10, 2007 4:51 AM   
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If you want to see the extent to which Democrats have fallen into contempt, read the comments on Washington Post articles. The Democrats are getting furious comments from people who once formed part of their "base". It's time for the progressives in this country to start preaching from Naomi Kleins THE SHOCK DOCTRINE and point-blank tell the world how our government has become totally corporatized. Excellent, excellent book. I personally live in the South. There's not a day that goes by that I don't get emails pumping up Mike Huckabee. The fanatically religious and those mesmerized by the flat tax may just put that sucker in office if the terrible mess our country is in is not revealed.

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» RE: Don't be too optimistic Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Don't be too optimistic Posted by: nochicagoboys
Never Overestimate the Compassion or Intelligence of the US Voter
Posted by: US Citizen on Dec 10, 2007 5:27 AM   
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Speaking as a resident of an upper-middle class Minnesota suburb which elected probably the most pathetic Bush-kissing Congressman of all, Michelle Bachmann, I feel no assurance whatsoever that we have turned a new leaf.

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I see hope here.
Posted by: pieandpeas on Dec 10, 2007 5:29 AM   
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I don't remember reading such broad agreement in the comments section of recent Alternet articles. The source of this agreement is not found in the direct responses to the article rather in the emerging theme (in this and other posts of late) that even an 'implosion' of the Republican party would affect the corporate driven foreign policy of the U.S. not one jot.
I will grant that more palliative domestic legislation may well ensue from a Democratic President, House and Senate but as far as we denizens of the Empire who live outside of the continental United States are concerned, the outcomes will be the same as ever: corporate theft of our resources; deliberate pollution of our environment; continuing dehumanization of our spirit; ever-present fear; dis empowerment; poverty and, ultimately, annihilation of the few good things that still remain in our lives and probably even our very lives themselves.
Our only hope is that the current disenchantment with the American Democratic System, as I read in these posts, increases to the point where real change can happen. For God's sake, your system is broke - fix it for all our sakes.

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It Ain't Over Till the Fat Lady Sings
Posted by: jmmartin on Dec 10, 2007 5:29 AM   
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I, too, am hesitant to completely agree that Demo ascendancy is a sure thing. When I watch the Demo debates, I think, "There isn't a single one of these people who'd make me feel uncomfortable having in the White House." Conversely, when I watch GOP debates, think, "What a bunch of geeks, suits, liars, phonies, hypocrites, and Dangerous Lunatics (my catch-all phrase for people who don't believe in evolution and think that man coexisted with dinosaurs)." That said, what I believe is just an opinion, and opinions, like derrieres, are common to all of us.

But when I analyze the potential match-ups, I see problems in getting a Demo in the White House. Let's say that Hillary pulls off her party's nomination. She may be an accomplished, witty debater, but the surveys show she loses even to GOP candidates with baggage of their own, like Rudy. If Obama beats Hillary -- and this is the scenario many GOPS pray for -- he will lose to almost any GOP nominee. Did you catch the CNN interview with South Carolina voters? Those people call a spade a spade (you should pardon the expression). One, a young white male, said: "No African-American man can be elected president." The GOPS know this and that's why some of them say Obama is their least objectionable Demo candidate.

Rudy has a ton of baggage, but the Fear Factor is enormous. If you don't believe it, check out the cars on the way to work. The ones with the permanent, unpealable American flag bumper stickers are not going to vote for Hillary or Obama, and Edwards's class war populist stance just scares the bejesus out of them. I don't think Bernard Kerrick, girlfriends with publically funded bodyguards, ties to Islamist foreign nations, &c., &c., &c. is going to sink Rudy.

But even if the baggage Rudy brings to the race gets him nixed, and even if Romney's Mormonism fails to win over the evangelicals (a lot more diverse group than they were in 2000 or even 2004, including some who actually think gays should have their rights, &c.), we're left with the rising star, Huckabee. He's so squeaky clean, he'll be hard to beat as a "family values" candidate. And while I don't think McCain has a chance (despite New Hampshire), I think he could beat Hillary, perhaps Obama, too.

No, the ascendancy of the Demos is hardly a foregone conclusion. One big stumble and the GOPS could wind up on Pennsylvania Avenue once again.

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» Huckabee isn't clean either... Posted by: Farasien
» RE: "Stumble?" Posted by: oregoncharles
Hate to point out the 800-lb gorilla...
Posted by: Farasien on Dec 10, 2007 6:11 AM   
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...but it seems somebody has to. I'm not fond of the situation, folks, but you have to remember that the Big Money party (both sides of it) are in control of the government and will remain in control of the government until the people of Main Street take to Wall Street with torches and pichforks. International bakers realized long ago that they can't ever let the populace have any say in anything or else they lose power and money. Will there be a financial collapse in the coming few years? Certainly. Collapses and transitions are how wealth has been stolen from we, the little people, since money was invented. Will the dems win the upcoming election? Certainly! Their chosen queen has already pledged to sell the soul of our country to them just as soon as her ass hits the white house's Oval office. Will progressives EVER control the government or even have a majority say in anything that happens there? Well, ask yourself if what the progressives are proposing either a) transfer power away from the populace or B)immediately (because Wall Street only looks at the short term, despite what they like to tell us filthy pesants) make the bankers lots of money. If the answer of either one of these is NO, then progressives will be the convienent wackos they like to point at and laugh while selling us further down the road to the glue factory. Only when people throw down the corptocracy and aristocracy will there be any real change for the better, and as long as we all keep sucking up the insultingly stupid and irrelevant bullshit the media and others tell us we have to eat, we'll keep getting more of the same.

I hope you love hillary's big money policies; even if she somehow doesn't get elected (this, I think would require nothing less than a coup at this point), the other bastard who does get elected will be pushing them, too.

Vote independant. Its the only real alternative.

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GrannyBgood
Posted by: GrannyBgood on Dec 10, 2007 6:15 AM   
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"Yet the New Deal followed. And not only the New Deal, but an era of social protest, including labor, racial, and farmer insurgencies, without which there would have been no New Deal or Great Society. May something analogous happen in the years ahead? No one can know. But a door is about to open."

Let's just hope that door doesn't open to WWIII.
Let's not forget, that's what also "Followed" in 1932, and I doubt if either the Neocons or the Zionazis will stop at anything less, even if they have to cook up a new "Tri-fecta" to start bombing Iran.
Save for extreme vigilance and timely exposure, we'd be there already!

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No Time For Gloating....
Posted by: CatDad on Dec 10, 2007 6:35 AM   
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Political winds/fortunes in this nation can turn on a time....As little as three years ago it seemed that we were entering an era of Republican/Right Wing dominance that would last a generation. I (painfully) remember the euphoria when Clinton was elected in 1992...it seemed liked we had brought an end to the Right Wing machine...yet just two short years later we got the Republican Revolution of Gingrich/DeLay and George W...a political force whose power lasted through 2005.

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» RE: No Time For Gloating.... Posted by: GrannyBgood
Implosion
Posted by: surfreality on Dec 10, 2007 6:40 AM   
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is an apt word for the current republican political situation.
They offer nothing except the status quo and no health care for children.
Every republican candidate except McCain preaches xenophobia. In fact, their approach to every issue is fear.
Fear is behind the assault on the constitution. Fear is behind the embrace of torture.
This is also why the republicans are all trying to out do each other in regards to G-d.

The result will be a democratic landslide in the congressional races.
As to the presidential election: I believe even Hillary can win. The big money sees the writing on the wall... they know they can work with her. She'll be regarded as a placeholder until corporate interests can produce a suitably charismatic republican.
Does anyone out there seriously believe she'll roll back the assaults on our constitution? Once she is in office, the executive unitary theory will continue under her watch. She will not cede an ounce of power back. If She isn't a neocon, she's a very close cousin.

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The big monkey wrench in all of this...
Posted by: Trazom on Dec 10, 2007 6:49 AM   
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is the entrance of a major independent candidate into the presidential race. I had previously poo-pooed such a notion, but the possibility is becoming more a reality with every passing day, in my eyes at least. A Gore, Bloomberg, or even Gore/Bloomberg ticket has the potential to alter the outcome in a way few can comprehend. Just think of the ramifications (most notably Rudy loses more of his NY base and is thus assured a defeat).

Look at the Republican candidates. Most look like buffoons. Romney is fading fast and going nowhere. McCain is almost toast. Guiliani lost the coveted religious right vote a long time ago. Paul still has a lot of ground to cover, though is gaining in popularity. Huckabee seems to me to be the latest fashion. All of these indicate that the Republicans have no major candidate.

The democrats are somewhat stronger, but alienate half the population with female and African-American candidates. And Edward's class war message is still not reaching much of America.

The environment and its impact on the economy (and vice versa) is the quintessential hot-button topic these days, and I can't think of any of the top-tier candidates today who are or would address this in a manner that requires the consternation desired by the public. The time is ripe for a major third party candidate, and I think Gore and Bloomberg know this.

Now if they could just pick up Kucinich and/or Edwards/Paul for cabinet positions I think the country stands the greatest chance it has in a long time to make some real progress.

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I'm Voting To End The War
Posted by: BlackbirdHighway on Dec 10, 2007 6:57 AM   
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Which means I have a choice between Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich. Any other Republican or Democratic candidates are non-starters for me.

I'll probably have to go third party. Whoever I vote for will not be the winner. But I am not under any circumstances going to vote for continued war.

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» RE: I'm Voting To End The War Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: I'm Voting To End The War Posted by: CUnknown
GOP implodes... Dems implode... could the whole system crash?
Posted by: smendler on Dec 10, 2007 7:06 AM   
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Hmmm. What happens if *no one* can muster an Electoral majority??

It's unlikely, but as I'm thinking about it, it sure is possible. Strong third party showings on both sides of the spectrum, from say Nader on the one side and Ron Paul on the other, could result in some kind of deadlock....

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» Missing the Point Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: Missing the Point Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: Missing the Point Posted by: oregoncharles
lobsterman
Posted by: lobsterman on Dec 10, 2007 7:25 AM   
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GOP in death-throes??? One well-placed terror bomb will blast the Republicans back into the mix. The Dems are a complacent, fearful bunch; that's precisely why 1/3 of the electorate is unenrolled, ie independent. If the GOP drafts Hagel due to the absolutely dredful present offerings, the Republicans will trounce the Dems by 8-12 points.

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» RE: lobsterman Posted by: VZEQICVA
"toast" is for breakfast every day
Posted by: mwildfire on Dec 10, 2007 7:28 AM   
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I'm about to turn 52, so I can remember when the Republicans were finished for good, after Goldwater's campaign. Then came McGovern, campaigning for the Democrats, running against an unpopular war and being defeated in a landslide--it was the end of the Democrats. Etcetera--the parties take turns having funerals. Meanwhile, what about real change? It's been a long, long time since we had progressive politics connected to power in this country. It's true enough that the flock of Republican candidates is a sideshow, competing for their dwindling base in ways that make them look absurd to most of the country. It's true enough also that current circumstances are deadly for the imcumbent party. But those things were true in '04 too, and yet they won. A new factor is that the Republicans get to count the votes--don't underestimate this advantage.
In any case, we see most of the Democrats, particularly those annointed by the corporate media as "serious" candidates, employing a little populist rhetoric but consistently voting to give the warmongering, Consititution-shredding, oil company-protecting thugs now in the White House anything they want. They treat their base with contempt, secure in the notion that we'll have no choice but to vote for them when the election rolls around. Which means many of us won't vote, none of us will work for Democrats or give them money, and many of us will vote for the Green candidate or write in Kucinich even though he will have been officially eliminated by then. Which might just be enough to tilt the race to the Republicans...not that it matters.
I'm sorry to say, though, that the person who was heartened at evidence on Alternet that we Americans are finally figuring out that the whole system is rigged, is over-hopeful. First of all, Alternet is hardly a typical mainstream representation of Americans. Secondly, even though most Americans have at least some dim idea of how corrupt politics is, they are a thousand miles from the level of engagement it would take to sustain a revolution. In '32, millions of hardworking people were unemployed, and hundreds of thousands were starving, or homeless, and so were their kids. Socialist speakers were popular. I'm afraid it will take something on that level to get us to take our heads out of our druglike television programs and get up and do something--and I'm afraid by then it will be way too late. "Our" government will have stopped the last chance of cooperative policy change to check global warming, and likely will attck Iran or use a germ-bomb to reduce populations...or imposed an overt police state with technology in hand that Hitler and Mussolina never imagined in their wildest dreams.
Geez, I don't want to say there's no hope. But it's getting hard to see what could help, that the Powers That Be can't shoot down with ease.

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Why even bother? Both parties need to be TERMINATED !
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 10, 2007 7:56 AM   
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The way I see it, the voters, myself included, anxiously trusted the Democrats in 2006 to clamp down on the abuse the GOP has thrust upon us all. Now, fast forward to today and see how the Democrats FAILED to live up to their promises. No action against the pro-torture laws, "free" trade, bankruptcy overhaul, deregulation, privatization, war/occupation in Iraq, growing fundamentalists in the Mideast due to rightwing policies, removal of America's civil rights and liberties especially privacy rights (Hint: Democrats take more money from Hollywood to CRUSH your privacy rights), failing private and public school systems, crumbling healthcare crisis, GAWD I HATE TO NAME MORE !!!!! No wonder voters hate both parties. The way I see it, the Democrats are GOING DOWN IN FLAMES this coming year and may never come back ! HASTA LA VISTA SELLOUTS !!!!!!!!!

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willful suspension of disbelief...
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Dec 10, 2007 8:12 AM   
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tragically..the repugnicans are on a roll...bush is winning in iraq and the GDP grew 6.3% in 3Q (nevermind that it was funded by slave labour)...the polls are woefully dated.. the repugnicans have already won the 2008 election...

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through with fear?
Posted by: hellofriends on Dec 10, 2007 8:29 AM   
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didn't clinton say at the stupid CNN/Youtube debate that national security was more important than civil liberties?

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Beware rich white males panicked by FIREs
Posted by: DaBear on Dec 10, 2007 8:56 AM   
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I had to laugh when I first read this line: Now, that Republican "majority" finds itself in a systemic crisis from which there is no escape. Because my very next thought was, 'for a trapped bunch they sure are effective in maintaining a total lock on absolute power....'

As a working class person I have learned in 40 years of life that when rich (particularly white) males feel threatened, all us underlings best hang onto our shorts and know where we got to go to hide, because when rich boy explodes, guess where all that fear, resentment, and hate gets directed... certainly not to who's really to blame (themselves).

All through the piece, which I thoroughly enjoyed, I kept thinking to myself, the apocalyptic vision of a dystopic corporate-class state-on-crack living in fortress "islands" of "normalcy" while outside are the wastelands and slums routinely washed over by waves of militarized "civil order" is the only possible result. Rich people will never tolerate a total collapse where they suffer too. They just hire Blackwater to keep them safe and we all know their M.O. re: preventive defense.... they're gonna come for the out-classes in case those outcasts decide on justice.

Know where you're gonna hide from richie-whitey yet?

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mick3
Posted by: mick3 on Dec 10, 2007 9:24 AM   
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No, police state ahead. While we are all distracted by pre-election huffing and puffing, America's bete noir, aka Cheney, has a lovely surprise (although it shouldn't be) on store for us: some sort of trigger event (again), followed by martial law, canceled elections, suspended human and civil rights, mass detentions, and his carefully planned dictatorship out in the open. When did you think all that planning/conniving has been for, some democrat to use?

2008 elections that aren't mock? Please!

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There Will Not Be Another New Deal
Posted by: shinseiji on Dec 10, 2007 10:14 AM   
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The notion that the New Deal resolved US economic problems is a myth. It was FDR bringing the US into WWII that 'resolved' it - at the price of the creation of a permanent military industrial complex demanding a state of perpetual war.

From myth to ruse: Can we stop representing the implosion of the Republicans as a 'radical change' in the whole political situation in the US? This is a standard Democratic Party ploy, relying upon the New Deal myth wherein cautious, timid Democrats suddenly perform miracles - neglecting the small details of WWII and the Korean War (Truman, Democrat).

As we see with the Pelosi Congress, the reality is that the Democrats are furiously bailing to save the Republicans. This tells us that there will be no fundamental change until both of these parties go.

Here is a prediction: If the Democrats take it all in 2008, they will not be able to do squat to resolve any of the problems faced by the USA. We are not in the early 20th century anymore, when the USA was the premier industrial and financial power in the world. The deindustrialization and the indebtedness says that is over. America as the US Left has mythologized it is finished. Time for a new story.

That only leaves war and repression. Expect more of it from both parties until they are both gone.

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The Democrats are where the Republicans Used to Be
Posted by: DrSuess on Dec 10, 2007 10:31 AM   
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This is an interesting article, but it doesn’t catch one part of the truth. The Democratic party is now where the Republicans used to be- and the Republican party has moved off into outer space. No one is representing the needs and wishes of the middle class. If discussions about improving the job base in the US have been happening- either I have missed it (or the news media has suppressed it). Shrub’s fabled tax cut is for the rich only- it doesn’t touch the middle class. In fact none of Shrub’s policies are aimed at the middle class. It’s as if we do not exist in the current political context.

It is the middle class, and its response to the way it is being ignored that will form the greatest wild card in the next election. I have yet to see a decent political analyst who is discussing this at all. From what I am seeing in the polls, it seems as if all of America is now either a member of a Born Again Christian organization or a homosexual. Where are the doctors, lawyers, computer programmers, accountants, etc. Where are the educated people in all these discussions? They seem to be totally missing.

The Republican party has taken an anti-intellectual approach (ie opposed to evolution, etc). They seem to forget that the middle class has formed the bulk of the Republican vote base for decades. The middle class is well educated and takes its religion at mainstream churches. Look at all the Republicans are talking about- I don’t see any acknowledgement of the middle classes existence in anything they say or do. I don’t see much for the middle class in the Democrats either- but at least they make an occasional nod to the main part of America.

In many ways Hillary is closer to previous Republican presidents than to previous Democratic ones (forget Shrub- he’s just plain off the scale). I don’t see anything like Kennedy’s programs or Johnson’s Great Society in her.

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Agree -It's ALL Cyclical
Posted by: drricklippin on Dec 10, 2007 11:09 AM   
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After decades of the failed Reagan/Gingrich revolution(which Bill Clinton did little to correct)during which "the free market was deified" we are indeed set for a major correction.

I can only hope as we hit bottum that we have enough elasticity left to bounce back up?

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa

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Time, Time, is slippin' Back!
Posted by: writerman on Dec 10, 2007 12:10 PM   
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The scenario mentioned, the rich moving back behind their fortress walls, protected by private armies, was the norm during the Dark Ages, after the fall of ancient Rome and before the rise of the modern nation state.

We appear to be eading towards the combined rough waters of impending; environmental, energy, political, military and financial crises; all perhaps merging into one overwhelming storm - A Crisis of Civilazation.

Whatever happens I believe the rich and powerful will fight tooth and nail to preserve their privilidged lifestyles, not matter what. It could well get very nasty indeed!

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As I write this-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Dec 10, 2007 12:23 PM   
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I am thinking about the MoveOn letter that came this morning- saying that Reid and the Dems. are once again planning to sell out and fund the war.

What Democratic Pary? There is no Democratic Party, only the Republicans and the lesser Republicans.

I will support Kucinich. Will do no good..the game is rigged. The system is broken. What we need now is REVOLUTION.

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But... will the voters really blame the Republicans?
Posted by: Hans B on Dec 10, 2007 12:48 PM   
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Fine article, but to my mind overly optimistic that voters will lay the blame where it belongs. Bush's strategy - on Iraq, on the economy, on the environment, on everything - is to punt all problems down the road to 2009 while covering them up as best he can, so that he will be able to blame his successor for them.

What happens if the economic crisis really starts hitting hard during a Democratic presidency? When the vets start coming home? When the South dries up? Will the voters really remember who was responsible? Or will they remember the Bush years as a time of comparative prosperity?

My prediction: The next president will not have the easy ride Clinton had, and the economy will not fix itself on his/her watch. And he/she will get the blame for Bush's mess, as well as for the fact that this time around adjustment is painful, and he/she will not be re-elected in 2012.

And count on the Republicans to criticize from the sidelines during those four years, and on the MSM to join the shrill chorus.

It's not over yet.

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