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Tom Tancredo Hired Illegal Laborers to Renovate His McMansion

By Max Blumenthal, AlterNet. Posted December 1, 2007.


Anti-immigration zealot and GOP presidential candidate Tom Tancredo hired what he often refers to as "criminal aliens" to renovate his Colorado house.

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When Republican Representative Tom Tancredo isn’t railing against the “scourge” of illegal immigration on the presidential campaign trail, he relaxes in the 1053 square foot basement recreation room of his Littleton, Colorado McMansion. There, he and his family can rack up a game of billiards on their tournament size pool table, play pinball, or enjoy their favorite movies in the terraced seating area of a home theater system. Tancredo, who dodged the draft during the Vietnam War by producing evidence that he suffered from mentally illnesses, especially likes entertaining his buddies with classic war movies.

“We have friends over and I have now shown Pearl Harbor about six times,” Tancredo boasted to the Rocky Mountain News about his 102-inch television. “But I mainly just show the attack scene because the sound is so good.”

When Tancredo hired a construction crew to transform his drab basement into a high-tech pleasure den in October 2001, however, he did not express concern that only two of its members spoke English. Nor did he bother to check the workers’ documentation to see if they were legal residents of the United States. Had Tancredo done so, he would have learned that most of the crew consisted of undocumented immigrants, or “criminal aliens” as he likes to call them. Instead, Tancredo paid the crew $60,000 for its labor and waited innocently for the completion of his elaborate entertainment complex.

During the renovation process, two illegal workers hired by Tancredo were alerted to his reputation for immigrant bashing. They went straight to the Denver Post to complain. Tancredo “doesn't want us here, but he'll take advantage of our sweat and our labor,” one of the workers complained to the Post on September 19, 2002. “It's just not right.”

The Post report momentarily threw Tancredo on the defensive. In a fiery speech soon after the story’s publication, Tancredo blamed his foibles on the INS. “I haven't the foggiest idea how many people I may have hired in the past as taxi drivers, as waiters, waitresses, home improvement people,” he boomed from the House floor. “I haven't the foggiest idea how many of those people may have been here illegally, and it is not my job to ask them.” Then defiance gave way to vitriol as the congressman dubbed undocumented immigrants, “the face of murder.”

Only days before the Post’s story appeared, Tancredo had personally reported an honor student profiled in the Denver Post to the INS because the 14-year-old was not a legal resident of the United States. The stunt forced the boy’s family to go into hiding. Fortunately for Tancredo, the ensuing revelations of his hiring of illegal labor fell below the radar of the national media, allowing his anti-immigrant crusade to proceed unabated.

Tancredo proceeded to organize over 90 anti-immigration House members into an informal but powerful caucus that has effectively prevented any non-enforcement related immigration legislation from reaching the President’s desk. His Team America PAC, which is chaired by right-wing pundit Bay Buchanan, has donated tens of thousands of dollars this election cycle to nativist candidates who hope to fill Tancredo’s caucus with new blood when he retires next year. Down on the border, Tancredo announced his support for the Minutemen, providing the anti-immigrant militia with a veneer of respectability while its pistol-packing members hunt for brown-skinned evildoers.


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Max Blumenthal is a fellow of the Nation Institute and a research fellow at Media Matters for America. The winner of the USC Annenberg’s Online Journalism Award, his work frequently appears in the Nation, the Huffington Post, Alternet, and the American Prospect. He is currently writing a book, Land of Sin, for Nation/Basic Books due out in July 2008.

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Is it legal to ask?
Posted by: wmb1957 on Dec 1, 2007 12:29 AM   
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If one hires a contractor is it legal to ask for proof they have checked immigration status? Can it be put in the contract? How does one go about it?
I've had work done on my house. Am I legally liable if the workers aren't legal? I just assumed they were, but how can one know? I mean its not right to just go around and assume they are here illegally, so what can one do?

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» RE: A Complete Smear Posted by: talkville
Awwww!
Posted by: talkville on Dec 1, 2007 12:59 AM   
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Such a hard time this 'man' gets! He just succumbed temporarily to his Kipling-esque urge and assumed "the White Man's Burden" so self-lessly bringing the poor heathens to civilized and productive work (albeit most likely at half the minimum wage).

Then he caught a whiff of the Political Winds blowing hard, real hard, to Rightwards and went sailing towards that Land!

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Ilegal Imigrants working for who?
Posted by: niliadis on Dec 1, 2007 1:25 AM   
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Like who cares, who's voing for this man certainly not to many people, waste of time thinking about this. Think about not voing for Barrack Hussein Obama,no experience a big risk and in this day and age where we are in critical and crucial times we can not afford to vote for a man that may be a Risk. I have read and read and reviewed resumes and Hillary Clinton is the leader that should be elected. I don't listen to Fox news who have engaged in manipulating lies to suite thier own reasons. Giuliani's extramarital affair expenditures and using he NYPD as taxi for his misriss falls on deaf ears with Fox..We can not let the media manipulate our vote. We need to review resume's study the real facts, not the lies and the manipulation of the bias media. Barrack Hussien Obama is not ready to be president this time around. He is a big risk the American People does not want to take.
Ilegal Imigrants are hired by the company one employs, I am sure we would be sued if we called up the roofing company and say you can do the work however I do not want illegals. Its the government that should be sanctionig the employers for hiering he illegals not the customer of the buisness.

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That's priceless
Posted by: Donna_Darko on Dec 1, 2007 2:16 AM   
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n/t

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A fine merican
Posted by: davy on Dec 1, 2007 3:27 AM   
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He fits right in, lets elect him.

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Immigrants
Posted by: frank69 on Dec 1, 2007 3:35 AM   
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I've said it before that we are a nation of immigrants. For all of you who like to bash immigrants, I'll say again that unless you are a Native American Indian, we had all better get our airline or boat tickets, and go back to our countries of origin. And don't give me any crap about how your ancestors came over on the Mayflower - the Pilgrims, after all, were immigrants!

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I'll go with mentally ill.
Posted by: Urstrly on Dec 1, 2007 4:45 AM   
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Interesting that while mental illness disqualifies you from the military, it does not disqualify you from Congress. Given Tancredo's lust for those combat scenes (so much better produced for the media than the real thing) I'd go with the original diagnosis.

Of course the odds against him being president are slim, but he's already in the House and on Lou Dobbs, polluting the atmosphere with hate, and hate motivates people to vote, if not for him then for the "next best thing."

The distraction of fear, whether of illegal Latinos or Muslims, has kept us from dealing with this major issue in our society. I worry about the xenophobic frenzy that has been fostered by Tancredo and Dobbs and Bay Buchanan and her unlovely brother Pat, because it creates an atmosphere where people regard immigrants as less than human.

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Another Republican hypocrite
Posted by: CJC on Dec 1, 2007 6:00 AM   
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What a surprise!

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Couldn't Tom find an all-American contractor?
Posted by: sausage on Dec 1, 2007 6:27 AM   
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It comes as no surprize that Tom "If'n thar's anythin' Ah hates mor'n a Mexican, it's two Mexicans!" Tancredo hired a remodeling contractor top-heavy with illegal immigrant laborers. One of Tancredo's chief House allies, Rep. Steven King of Iowa owns a construction company. The construction industry is now the number one employer of "illegal immigrants." (The Des Moines Register regularly censures King's stance on immigration on its editorial pages but has sent no reporter to discover just who is working for the congressman.)

Actually it's three-card monte played on the electorate by both politicial parties, as the official economic orthodoxy of both is free market fundamentalism. Since both parties, Democratic and Republican, agree on the myth of a "free market" economy only so-called "cultural issues" distinguish one from the other. The GOP has been particularly successful in exploiting the brutish, nasty, petty side of human nature for the past forty years.

So like abortion, "gay marriage" and "gun control," "illegal immigration" is another "issue" which Republican politicians will bluster and bellow about; threaten to build a fence along the US-Mexico border that will make the Great Wall of China look like a decorative garden borderfence,with illegal immigrant laborers no doubt; and ultimately do nothing because there isn't the funding for it and "they" don't want to raise taxes.

Meanwhile the Democrats will prance around like fairies, wring their hands, saying something must be done, and end up doing nothing to solve the systemic causes for "illegal immigration," on both sides of the border, due to the "free market" economy.

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Tancredo, shmancredo
Posted by: willymack on Dec 1, 2007 6:55 AM   
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Does anyone seriously believe this zero has a chance to be our next president? On the other hand, he isn't that much goofier than the rest of the pack. If the best the rethugs can dig up is the rogue's gallery they've so far presented, it's nearly certain they're furiously working behind the scenes to stage another 911 and/or to thoroughly falsify the coming general election.

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Let people roam
Posted by: jmooney on Dec 1, 2007 7:51 AM   
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People are illegal because they cross some artificial boundary? I don't think so. Like Kucinich says, "There are no illegal people." Now I guess they have broken the law that says they can't enter, but I say that's a subjective law anyway. This is our earth. We ought to be able to roam it at will as long as we don't kill or steal from others. So long as we pull our end of the deal, are willing to work, etc., let people roam. I know that's pretty drastic sounding, but that's just how I see it. People like Tancredo and Dobbs are just trying to find someone else to blame for our woes. There's always got to be a scapegoat.

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JOHN L.
Posted by: JOHN L. on Dec 1, 2007 8:18 AM   
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Just for starters, NO person, undocumented-or otherwise, is "illegal", and certainly no where as il-legal, as in behaving illegally, as this regime and "our" congress, in terms of avoiding and breaking virtually every international/universal laws and morality they've all enthusiastically entered into.

Beyond that, Tancredo was quite correct in claiming mental illness to avoid the draft/military service.
He OBVIOUSLY IS a nuttier than a fruitcake.
'Nuff Said.

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It's Not Just The Wingnuts
Posted by: gradioc on Dec 1, 2007 8:26 AM   
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We need to understand that this is not just an issue for the far right. I have been surprised by the number of otherwise progressive people, people who are usually to my left, who are genuinely angry about immigration. These are not people who listen to Dobbs or Tancredo. This is a real groundswell and if the Dems don't figure out a humane middle path to address the issue we could give back all the gains 8 years of Bush have handed us.The people on the Left are convinced that illegal labor is just helping Big Business depress wages. What they're missing is that we're at full employment anyway and the economy desperately needs these workers. Logic really does not matter here.Nativist feelings run across all political stripes.

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Tancredo is a cretin
Posted by: robchapman on Dec 1, 2007 8:36 AM   
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Tom Tancredo is a cretin.

But that does not lessen tremendous resonance of the immigration issue in the population.

If one accepts that there are around ten million people working here in undocumented status, our 4.8 per cent unemployment rate goes down and one can conclude that we have a full employment economy. Hence, the economy needs the bodies.

The voters are faced with the paradox of an economy that needs the labor and a legal system that is incapable of providing workers with the documentation needed to work here.

The seasonal, temporary and mobile nature of this work force is well-documented. Reform proposals to put them on the "road to citizenship," are misguided as many of the workers are still connected to their home communities in their countries of origin.

The US should be working with the Latin governments to provide bonding, information on the permanent domiciles and backgound checks on potential workers.

The US should also make a committment to the people who we employ to provide them the protection of our laws and the benefits of our society.

We cannot do without the labor that undocumented workers provide. It is past due time to get them out of the shadows and endow them with legal status.

This will help protect us from unfair competition, people welshing on debts and criminals.

In return we must do take responsibility to afford the protection of our laws and other benefits of our society.

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Is it Legal to Ask?
Posted by: pocomoco on Dec 1, 2007 9:17 AM   
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Is it legal to tell? I called a contractor about a proposed job on my house. The first thing I told him was that his entire crew had better appear to be Caucasian (white).My statement did not phase him. He said that he hears that frequently from prospective customers. A second contractor came to my house. I said the same thing to him and his reply to me was the same. It seems that some people are more careful than Tancredo.

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It's all about the elections!
Posted by: K_for_Kansas on Dec 1, 2007 10:17 AM   
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The whole furor over "criminal aliens" is all designed to galvanize the conservative base, once more, to gallop to the polls and pull the Republican lever to elect those gallant souls who will protect us from the newest threat to the safety and morality of our nation. Now that abortion and homosexuality have lost a little of their juice from overuse as a cause and from sheer hypocrisy, a new demon was needed, and Voila! just in time to stir up the gentle folks for November 2008, here come 11 million or so criminals-who-aren't-like-you-and-me. Whew!
Our immigration laws need reform, certainly, but the heat and lack of light around this issue don't really have much to do with that. As the elections approach, the language will get even more hateful and flamboyant, so hold onto your hats. Will the American people buy it and let themselves once more be distracted from the real issues that threaten our future? Time will tell, but history isn't necessarily encouraging.

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just another hypocrite
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Dec 1, 2007 10:39 AM   
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in a long line of homophobic,immigrant bashing,criminal behavior,closet queens. I mean come on! does anybody believe anything these motherfuckers have to say?

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Watch lou Dobbs on Democracynow.
Posted by: Peacekeeper on Dec 1, 2007 10:46 AM   
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If you can't watch the program on TV, you can read the transcripts, at the website. I wonder if Bill O'Riley will ever be on the Show, that would be fun to watch.

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progressive for controlled immigration
Posted by: Halley Luyah Korus on Dec 1, 2007 12:39 PM   
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I agree with the comments about progressives being concerned about illegal immigration. I'm a progressive and have been--actually more like a radical--since I got home from Vietnam in 69. And while there is a lot of hysterical crap thrown around about the lack of enforcement of our immigration laws, we do have a major problem because of all of these whatever-you-want-to-call-them immigrants.

I'm a licensed general contractor. Our company hires only legal workers, meaning they have to have a valid social sec # or green card. However, many of our subcontractors and competitors hire anyone they can get at the cheapest rate possible. Is this a result of free entrerprise?? I don't know what free enterprise means, but I think it's a poor excuse for allowing just any old soul cross into our country and take jobs away from tax-paying citizens. For me that's the crux of the matter.

The hispanic workers I know and work with are mostly hard workers, honest and decent folks. I have no problem with them working here as long as they get signed up with the INS, get their legal working papers and get on the tax rolls like the rest of us working-class folks. I keep reading these articles that spout all these billions of $$$ that illegal immigrants are contributing to our economy. Well what about the billions of $$$ that the rest of us LEGALS are contributing--while at the same time we're paying taxes to support the government and the social services that many of the illegal immigrants use as if they have every right to use them.

The other aspect of this that ticks me off is the way these illegal workers drive down wages and job opportunities for Americans. Yes, we are close to full employment, but tell that to those carpenters who are now having to work for a lot less $ or lose business to the buttholes who hire the illegals at half the going wage rate. Maybe eight hispanic guys can live together in a two-bedroom apartment and send money home to mama and the kids while making $12 an hour, but please don't ask American workers to try to do that.

What many of us progressives, liberals, whatever seem to forget is that MANY MANY AMERICANS GAVE THEIR LIVES TO GIVE THE REST OF US A CHANCE TO HAVE A 40-HOUR WORK WEEK, DECENT WAGES AND SAFE WORKING CONDITIONS. Illegal immigrant workers are undermining that progress.

I for one, am for some form of amnesty for those immigrants who have been here for X number of years and who have been employed and have no criminal record. Anyone else can go back south and get in line to do it the right way. Now, if we could only get our "leaders" to put a plan like that into action.

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Can you trust Max Blumenthal?
Posted by: LonewackoDotCom2 on Dec 1, 2007 12:52 PM   
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Here's my discussion of the Max Blumenthal article. If you read the source articles he discusses, I think reasonable people won't put much faith in anything Blumenthal says.

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If the Contractor is Super Cheapo, Who Do you Think They are Using?
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 1, 2007 5:31 PM   
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Look, here is a good way for you to tell:

If the contractor is super cheap, if he cannot give you good references you can check and if he has complaints with the state licensing or better business bureau, watch out.

In other words, you don't have to ask. Look, the supercheapo contractor is supercheapo for a reason, don't you think? Not real hard really to find out who is using the illegal aliens, I would say.

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Sheesh! So who does one hire then?
Posted by: MargoM on Dec 1, 2007 5:53 PM   
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Tancredo is in Colorado, and there are probably a lot of illegals there. Here in Miami there are a lot too, I understand. There are a lot of limited English speakers and people who only speak Spanish, and whenever I've had anything done on my condo, the person running things always speaks English, but sometimes he leaves and it's a pain to discuss problems with the other workers who remain and don't know English. So then we have to get on the phone and call the head honcho and discuss it through him, like through an interpreter.

I always make sure who I hire is licensed and bonded. Can they get licenses and be bonded and have illegals working for them?

I would prefer not to hire illegals, but I never thought about asking about that.

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that's why I want to form.....
Posted by: eosrk on Dec 1, 2007 10:11 PM   
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the Peoples' Party, and try to eliminate the bullshit!

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The Doom of the Democrats
Posted by: spot759 on Dec 2, 2007 7:40 AM   
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As a more or less life long Democratic voter, I believe this is the issue that the Democrats will be fatally impaled upon. Pandering to hispanics by looking the other way as we are invaded, is going to alienate a significant fraction of the non-hispanic electorate.
The hispanic vote only made up 6% of the 2004 election. The Democrats are throwing away the support of 2/3 to 3/4 of the remaining 96% of the electorate.
The dorks who are "liberally" throwing around the terms "racism" and "racist" are going find themselves increasingly isolated.

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The legacy of 1986
Posted by: spot759 on Dec 2, 2007 7:53 AM   
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Most of the posters here are probably too young to remember the last time this came up in 1986. Then, 2 million were offered amnesty, 5 million ultimately got in (chain immigration) and now we have 20 million more sneaky around in our home.

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Hunting brown skinned evildoers
Posted by: YogiBear on Dec 2, 2007 11:39 AM   
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Tancredo announced his support for the Minutemen, providing the anti-immigrant militia with a veneer of respectability while its pistol-packing members hunt for brown-skinned evildoers.

Why was this smear even necessary to the piece? It intentionally implies racism and lawlessness by the Minutemen, of whom, to the best of my knowledge, have never had a single incident of violence along the border or elsewhere.

It's obvious Tancredo likes to demonize his opposition. I just don't understand why so many so called progressives always feel the need to do the same.

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This Isn't A Big Deal
Posted by: dezertlady71 dezertlady71 on Dec 2, 2007 12:34 PM   
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Tom Tancredo is another Congress person that had illegals working for him-big deal.
It is illegal for anyone to go out and ask workers individually if they are legal residents as well as provide proof.
I believe Mr. Tancredo's mistake was not making it clear to the CONTRACTOR that he didn't want illegals working on his home.
I'm sure he's learned a lesson by now.
And since illegals are doing the job that no American wants, (because it's low-paying), illegals are expected to show up on these jobs unless someone is a moron or has been hiding in a hole for the last twenty years.

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AlwaysAskWHY
Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Dec 2, 2007 6:57 PM   
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Sex parties, pedophiles, closet gays, anti-immigrant... nothing different coming from the Republicans. When one is point a finger at others, the other three fingers are pointing back at the accuser. You can pretty much figure that the Republican who yells the loudest about others' behavior, is doing exactly that thing, him/herself....and maybe even profiting from it. SUCH HYPOCRISY!!!

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WAGE SUPPRESSION
Posted by: gellero on Dec 2, 2007 7:03 PM   
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They censored my last post due to a link to a website that is not politically correct.. There is good evidence that ILLEGAL immigration depresses the wages of the working class, especially the unskilled workers that are prevalent in the Black community. The author does not address this. Nor does the 'welfare lobby'. So called 'Progressives', with their obsequious ideology of the underdog seem to miss the difference between ILLEGAL mass movements of population and orderly LEGAL immigration.

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yes, indeed... how do you plan to maintain that home, Sir?
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Dec 2, 2007 8:43 PM   
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"McMansion Mania & You": Fiscally Fit - Wall Street Journal

so ask yourself: if you have a monster-sized home...
...how are you planning to heat & cool it on the DownSide of PeakOil?
oh wait, yet again... the RightWing screaming they applied against Gore... again doesn't apply there, either...

Embracing Humanity: Truth in a Time of War with Howard Zinn

The Myth of American Exceptionalism - Zinn


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» Does size count? Posted by: gellero
Only Cracking Down on Employers Will Work
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 3, 2007 7:46 AM   
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A good start is to really start cracking down on all the contractors and sub-contractors who use illegal aliens. We start by throwing them in jail in addition to hefty fines. As for the entire argument about fake ID's etc., the standard is (2) pieces of I.D. at least to generally prove American Citizenship. Ideally one being a USA passport. If from another country, a Green Card plus original passport and drivers license or state ID card. See, some illegal aliens will still get fake ID's, but the USA is moving now to a more secure ID system anyway, which eventually will incorporate biometric identifiers in ID cards. So, the problem of fake ID's will only diminish over time. Finally, as long as the employer can show proof (copies of documents) of genuinely checking ID's, the employer would not be prosecuted even if having hired an illegal alien. So, again, yes even with fake ID's some would still get employment, but, no doubt, at least there would be thousands of illegal aliens who would not get employment. And, for employers diligent enough to check when an ID looks suspicious (eg, by calling the drivers license bureau, etc.), a nice hefty reward should be given to them when they identify an illegal alien. This is the logical and best solution to this entire problem. Just arresting and deporting illegal aliens will never, ever work. If you follow the plan outlined here, fewer and fewer illegal aliens will enter the USA because it will quickly become known that you cannot get a job very easily.

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» The 'Rich Guy' Posted by: gellero
MORE!!!
Posted by: SOWILO on Dec 3, 2007 4:03 PM   
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Nevermind what that idiot Republican did regarding hiring illegals. This situation is out of hand. I'm sorry, but we CANNOT have uneducated people pouring in through our borders, either by plane from the Middle East, Africa, or from Mexico or even Canada.

It is best if you want to come to the U.S. or the West in gerneral to appy through the proper channels. We should be only allowing highly-skilled immigrants, UNLESS they can prove refugee status BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT. We are the most liberal when it comes to immigration and I find it hysterical to read posts from people with their horse-blinders on in regards to this issue, thinking we can just have "open borders."

My advice to those "open border" advocates would be to research the disaster called NAFTA, and then spend some time with the migrants themselves and learn more about their lives, their habits etc. GO TO THEM DIRECTLY and see for yourself. Then make a decision about how you feel about this issue. I live in LA and I have seen the hardships that these families have, how they will never assimilate and how they have actually spread racism and strife throughout the city. I consider myself a progressive and very very liberal, but it seems a lot of people who don't have immediate contact with the most extreme circumstances involving illegal immigration seem to be the ones on their high-horse making judgements on those of us who are concerned about our social fabric itself. With this war going on, the dumbing down of the public, and everything else, the last thing we need are these CHRISTIANS pouring in.

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» RE: Damage to the social fabric Posted by: bcgirl125
Dear MORE
Posted by: gellero on Dec 3, 2007 8:49 PM   
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What did you expect.....the boo-hooers who post here are intellectual ideologues who don't have to deal with the fallout of mass migration and 'multiculturalism' firsthand.
Do these 'undocumented' (god forbid I should say 'illegal') immigrants really do the 'work Americans won't do' as the Pres. and the Progressives (strange bedfellows!!) claim?? Sure they do....at a lower wage. The laws of economics dictates that if these 'undocumented' aka illegal alien workers weren't here, the working man's wage would rise. The posters here probably weren't listening in the college economics classes their Daddys' paid for.
A client of mine who is an Arizona developer stated it like this......he has to bid on a project, and those with the cheapest labor win. Mexican-American subcontractors (totally legal) work for him....and use cheap imported ( aka illegal) labor....he is isolated from the legal stuff totally. There is no work for native born and nationalized citizens at that wage. The local working man looses.
What is happening now is not like any previous mass migration.....this is an alien culture that is marginally assimilated. Go to the supermarket and look at a box of Tide..........was it written in Spanish 3 or 4 years ago?? Is this assimilation?? It's bad news, and will be the doom of both the Democrats and Republicans.

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» Put your money where your mouth is Posted by: hurricane hugo
$$$$$/Mouth
Posted by: gellero on Dec 4, 2007 5:34 AM   
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A good point...who do you call?? Ghostbusters ??? The FBI, local & state police can't be bothered. The INS ?? I don't think they are involved either. This very issue ha come up many times before.
The average citizen is helpless in a situation like this.

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pervasive presence
Posted by: darkhorse on Dec 5, 2007 6:50 PM   
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This incident only speaks to the pervasive presence of illegal aliens in this country and does not in any way indicate, as alternet would have you believe, that Tancredo is a hypocrite.

Obviously even if you specify that the company you do business with be in compliance with the law there's no way for a private citizen to be sure of it.

One thing that might work though is to write this specific into the work contract with punative measures (deductions) for violations. Put the companies on notice before the work starts might make them think about complying with