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Are Presidential Candidates Out of Touch With America?

By Sally Kohn, Center for Community Change. Posted November 30, 2007.


This Saturday, the Heartland Presidential Forum will bring politics back to the people.
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Ironically, the things that matter most to our country are not the things that matter most in politics today. Politics has become a playground for the wealthy elite, with lobbyists, corporate CEOs and big donors holding more sway than regular people. Meanwhile, in towns and cities across the United States, community organizing groups work with regular folks to identify shared problems and work together for solutions. Even back in the 1800s, when de Tocqueville defined democracy in America, he said these local associations are the heart of our political tradition. But in the lifeless, corporate politics of our nation today, politicians can't seem to find America's pulse. During elections and in between, we hear more about the politics of elites than the politics of the people.

With their fingers in the wind instead of on the pulse of our democracy, politicians can't find our true values. Americans in every corner of the map believe we're all in it together and share community values of compassion and shared responsibility, knowing that we all do better when we all do better. Yet politicians and the media continue to represent fringe, right-wing ideas of isolation, hyperindividualism and us-versus-them competition as the only values in America. Politicians and media allow the phrase "values voter" to be defined by that fringe minority -- rather than the community values the vast majority of us share.

But we, the people, know better. We know that the politics of our hearts, our homes and our communities are more important than corporate lobbyists. We know that the community values that we all share are the real values of our nation. But are the candidates listening?

On Dec. 1 in Des Moines, Iowa, over 5,000 grass-roots leaders from community organizing groups across the United States will join five of the leading presidential candidates for a conversation about real issues and real values with real people. At the Heartland Presidential Forum, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Dennis Kucinich and Chris Dodd will take turns sharing the stage with everyday Americans dealing with the consequences of inadequate healthcare, immigration raids, subprime mortgages and the loss of family farms. Organized by the Center for Community Change, Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement and the national Campaign for Community Values -- supported by over 300 grass-roots organizations from Maine to Hawaii and everywhere in between -- the Heartland Presidential Forum is a historic, one-of-its-kind event this election season to finally hold the candidates accountable to the people.

At the Heartland Presidential Forum, real people will ask real questions, not just about nitty gritty policy proposals but the broader moral vision each candidate would bring to the Oval Office. Does our future president believe we're all in it together? If so, what is the role of government in meeting our shared needs? How do we value communities on both sides of the border? How do we create economic opportunity for all of us? How do we put people back in charge of our democracy?

This is no dog-and-pony show. And the real people in this presidential forum won't be pumped in through the internet. They'll be standing live, next to the candidates and asking them the hard questions we all want to hear about the values we all share.

This election, we can change the conversation. Already, all across the United States, people are joining together in local community organizations because they share a vision for a nation and a world that values all of us. The politics of division are finished. The politics of the people are the politics of connection. Are the candidates listening? On Dec. 1, join us to find out!

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Sally Kohn is the director of the Movement Vision Project of the Center for Community Change, which is interviewing hundreds of activists across the country to determine the progressive vision for the future of the United States.

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Will this dog-and-pony-show be televised?
Posted by: vox persona on Nov 30, 2007 12:25 AM   
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I'd be a lot more excited to tune in, if there just was a candidate I could support, that wasn't the same contrived spiel I've already heard so much that I've memorized it. I wish someone would step up to the plate and inspire voters rather than this crop. There has to be something better than this....Same as it ever was....

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But...
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 30, 2007 2:41 AM   
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All the Presidential candidates are Democrats, which is going to affect the composition of the audience, and therefore the issues being discussed. So will you really get an accurate reading of "everyday Americans'" real concerns?

I think the article overstates the case that most ordinary folks care about compassion and community, and seems to deny the self-absorbed, paranoid, superstitious, ignorant, prejudicial side of the average American, which continues to affect polls and the outcome of elections...Why does Fox continue to beat the the other news channels in the ratings?

Having said that, I like the idea of Democrats being asked live, possibly awkward questions, and watching them sweat, dodge, and dance around like water splashed on a hot griddle. Maybe I'll look for it on YouTube.

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» RE: But... Posted by: Thedirtydemocrat
Same as it ever was
Posted by: tkwilson on Nov 30, 2007 4:48 AM   
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On the one hand it's good to see this kind of net based organizing being translated into community action and I applaud the organizers for attempting to avoid the CNN fake debate phenomenon.
On the other, they've already shot their own effort in the head by continuing the same tired old shit of preaching to the choir, practicing elitist exclusivist politics, by not including any other members of the political community except Democrats.
I got news for you jokers; lots of "community" members consider themselves neither Democrat nor Republican. If you want to speak to the community, stop effing around, AND DO IT!
Try including all of us.

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» RE: Same as it ever was Posted by: jmayo
» RE: Same as it ever was: Damn Right Posted by: oregoncharles
Kucinich
Posted by: karmalily on Nov 30, 2007 6:19 AM   
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I think Dennis Kucinich will really shine at the Heartland Presidential Forum. After all, he's reached out to working Americans time and time again. He doesn't have that elitist attitude of some of the other candidates.

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THEY KNOW VERY WELL WHAT CONCERNS US
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 30, 2007 6:55 AM   
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They don't know is what to do about any of it. They are clueless, all of them. I admit questions are being asked today and a year from now everything will be different and the answers won't apply or will appear to be lies. The ongoing campaign is a terrible idea. How can anyone know what to do about Iraq today and still be right a year from now. I'd like to turn it all off for a few months. Thanks, ANNA

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Kucinich, MSM & debates
Posted by: gabbyn on Nov 30, 2007 7:42 AM   
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I tune in to the presidential debates as often as possible. I'm often stunned by how outrageously manipulative the MSM treats the lowered teired candidates, especially Dennis Kucinich. I can conclude only one thing, after seeing the same pattern repeated from one host to the next .

Dennis's turn is abruptly cut short, while the top tiered candidates are softly reminded their time is up--but allowed to keep on talking anyway.

I've never seen so many long-winded, say little, responses that don't really answer the question by the top-tiered candidates. Yet Kucinich manages to answer a direct question with a direct answer in the fewest possible words. For some odd reason, the top-tiered candidates hog all of the debate time, more or less, reinventing the wheel for us, as if Americans are too stupid or ill-informed to understand the "context" that might otherwise make their answer misunderstood. Basically they skirt the issue rather than answer it.

I find it amusing the Democrats are so easy to read what they're thinking. When John Edwards made note of the fact that Hillary has taken in so much Lobby money--you know ahead of time--those are favors that must be returned . . . Hillary adopted a poker face, but she couldn't stop the blush. Usually, she does better fielding surprises from the republicans, but not her own party.

Kucinich is more willing to commit to his policies without dancing around the issue to avoid what special interest group might think, one way or the other. He is beholding to the people only and doesn't care what big business and special interest groups are pushing in self interest.

You know, that with Kucinich as President he's not going to sneak in any special favors. He's for, whatever is best for all Americans, equally.

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That's a rhetorical question, right?
Posted by: MAD on Nov 30, 2007 9:40 AM   
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"Are Presidential Candidates Out of Touch With America?"

You've got to be kidding.

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Will they be asked if they believe in the Bible?
Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 30, 2007 9:49 AM   
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I seem to recall that it is stipulated in the Constitution that no religious test shall be required of any candidate for political office.

Yet, while switching channels, I caught a couple instances of candidates in the recent GOP debate expounding at length about their belief in the literal truth of the Bible in response to questions put to them by the moderator.

So does the msm now insist that a religious test ought to be required? What the h3ll is going on?

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Hillary
Posted by: rjgwood on Nov 30, 2007 10:00 AM   
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I hate to beat a dead horse here, but again and again Hillary is not playing by the rules, stacking the audience, planting questions...I really hope to see a lot of transparency in this debate process so there are really real people, not stooges

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» RE: Hillary Posted by: Crazy H
Stupid question.
Posted by: magus65 on Nov 30, 2007 1:38 PM   
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"Are Presidential Candidates Out of Touch With America?"

If you have to ask you should take some more special ed classes and stay the hell away from the voting booth.

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They're not out of touch with the people who own them.
Posted by: aka_bozo on Nov 30, 2007 2:53 PM   
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.

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Take "Health Care", for example
Posted by: Iraan Ozono on Nov 30, 2007 5:31 PM   
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I am a physician assistant working in a community clinic in New Mexico. Everyday I see a dozen very sad examples; various permutations of "I got hurt so I couldn't work so I lost my insurance and can't afford to get surgery so I can work again" or "My employer stopped offering insurance, and at $8 an hour, even though I work 60 hours a week I can't afford food, rent and medicine, or insurance", or "I'm taking care of my 90 year old mother who has Alzheimer's 24 hours a day 7 days a week and so I can't work and Medicare says she was in the hospital too much last year so I can't get any help with her and I'm going crazy and want to kill myself", etc., etc., etc.

And we hear almost nothing from the Dems but PhaRMA approved bullshit, and NOTHING from the Repugs but immigrant/terrorist nasty bullshit.

I have little faith that any politician, save a very few, care at all about the pressing needs of huge portion of our citizens.

And those citizens feel powerless to affect those politicians or heal their desperate lives.

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upscale super-burbs; the new gettho
Posted by: eosrk on Nov 30, 2007 5:44 PM   
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just look around, the big money has moved back to the city, as the city dumped its poor and dowtrotten into section8 homes, so now....crime is spread around like jelly!

Enjoy. You moved away from the city to get away from it all, but the powers that be has shoved it right in your faces.

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Let me guess...
Posted by: talkville on Dec 1, 2007 2:17 AM   
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I don't know for sure, but I do have a general idea, WHO 'America' is. I'm not sure if these politicos have lost touch with America, but it sure seems more certain every day that they've lost touch with Reality and are all gathered together is a gigantic Echo Chamber, not knowing if they are responding to someone else or to their voice thrown back to them! There's fewer and fewer who even consider stepping Outside now and then to check what's going on among the Citizenry.

Just a guess, nothing more nor less.

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r.heringhauser@yahoo.com
Posted by: ronheri on Dec 1, 2007 3:07 AM   
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The #1 priority we need to look for in a presidential candidate is will the defend The Constitution. Bush has shown what happens when they don't; Ron Paul will get us back on track.

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"out of touch?"
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Dec 1, 2007 8:04 AM   
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Yup. Can well-meaning Iowans fix it? Nope.

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It Doesn't Matter
Posted by: dockboy on Dec 1, 2007 4:45 PM   
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Of course the candidates are out of touch. But it doesn't matter. Until we start voting 3rd Party in large numbers, presidential candidates will continue to be out of touch. Republican and Democratic voters both bitch and moan about their choices, but will continue to follow the herd. If you really don't like how politics work, vote third party. If you don't care, continue voting for the two parties. They're one and the same.

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only intouch with lobbists with deep pockets, mopney and politics mix well
Posted by: kkmedia1 on Dec 24, 2007 6:33 AM   
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