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Dress for Excess: The Cost of Our Clothing Addiction
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This holiday season, as in many past seasons, the No. 1 gift will be clothing. That's according to a recent Consumer Reports poll. Apparently, shoppers haven't heard about another of its surveys, which found clothes to be the "most disappointing gift" of last Christmas.Put another way, making a shirt -- any kind of shirt -- can never be as ecologically benign as not making a shirt.
Wanted or not, clothes are a more attractive deal than ever. The apparel retail industry's current philosophy is best captured in a new slogan that Wal-Mart Stores rolled out for this fall's shopping season: "Save Money. Live Better."
But in the fields and factories that feed America's colossal clothing market, living things -- including humans -- aren't doing one bit better.
No closet big enough
The numbers are astonishing. Apparel is easily the second-biggest consumer sector after food. We're spending $282 billion on new clothes annually, up from $162 billion in 1992, based on U.S. Census figures.
Importantly, the steady upward march of clothing expenditures doesn't fully reflect the increase in the actual quantities being made and bought, because the same-size spending spree can bring in more garb with every year that goes by.
The government says apparel prices in the United States dropped by about 25 percent from 1992 to 2002, and we responded like the good consumers we are, increasing our buying by 75 percent. The population increased only 13 percent in that decade, so the average annual shopping haul, which stood at about 50 new articles of clothing per person per year in 1992, had grown to 75 or more items per person by 2002. It has only gone up since then.
And to clear out closet space for the new purchases, the average American discards 68 pounds of clothing and other textiles each year, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.
The lower prices can be attributed to lower domestic wages, greater mechanization and the Wal-Mart-led corporate drive for cheaper everything. But most crucial has been the deluge of cheap imports. No. 1 among the world's top 10 apparel importers, the United States brings in more than the other nine nations combined.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture says per-person consumption of textile fiber in the United States is double that of Spain, four times that of China, and almost seven times India's. Currently, Americans buy 40 T-shirts per household annually, 94 percent of them imported. In 2003, four new pairs of shoes were imported for each American.
You'd think that swelling sales year after year would put the industry in a festive mood. But cheap shirts and socks don't yield the satisfying profits that elegant or businesslike threads provide. Industry griping over the high-volume, low-price treadmill is only getting louder in this year's slow Christmas season.
Despite that, Americans' wardrobes keep growing, overwhelming our home storage space. Next to a small kitchen, inadequate closet space is regarded today as the biggest impediment to selling an older house. In newly built homes, a walk-in closet in every bedroom has become de rigeur. Time magazine reported earlier this year, "Master closets now average about 6 ft. by 8 ft., a size more typical of an extra bedroom 40 years ago."
Prices of the outfits that fill those closets rarely reflect the steep environmental costs of textile and apparel manufacturing. Meanwhile, the rapidly expanding organic-fiber clothing market continues losing ground to growth of conventional sales.
The worldwide annual market for organic wearables increased by $338 million from 2001 to 2005. That growth not only failed to displace the conventional market; the increase in American consumption of conventional clothing alone, just between 2003 and 2005, outstripped four years of global growth in organic wear -- 44 times over! And the gap in material bulk is even wider than the dollar gap, because organic clothes are more expensive.
Naked exploitation of nature
Although 10 million tons of unwanted duds per year puts a lot of pressure on U.S. landfills, it's in the origin of the clothes -- fiber production, manufacturing and dyeing -- that the most harm is done.
Production of synthetic fibers like nylon and polyester consumes nonrenewable resources -- primarily petroleum -- while emitting greenhouse gases like nitrous oxide and releasing toxic wastewater containing organic solvents, heavy metals, dyes, and fiber treatments. Nylon is also very difficult to recycle. Producing fiber from recycled polyester is easier and produces only 15 percent as much air pollution as using raw materials, but the product is of lower quality than virgin polyester.
Fibers made from renewable raw materials are typically no more earth-friendly than polyester. For instance, rayon is made from wood pulp coming from mature forests through a process that pumps out large quantities of air and water pollutants. (A newer wood-based fiber called lyocell has a lighter impact on the environment but is nowhere close to displacing rayon.)
As they are commonly handled, wool-producing sheep can cause soil erosion, water pollution and biodiversity loss. And wool processing often uses large volumes of chemicals to clean fibers, prevent fabric shrinkage and improve washability. Leather manufacturing, especially the tanning step, is notorious for its use of toxic chemicals, including heavy metals and nasty, organic compounds.
Then there's King Cotton. The United States produces 8.5 billion pounds of cotton fiber each year, but that fills less than a third of the nation's always expanding demand for textiles. Fully 25 percent of the world's cotton crop, in the form of lint, thread, fabric or finished products, ends up in the United States or Canada.
Cotton is grown on less than 2 percent of U.S. farmland but accounts for one of every four pounds of pesticides sprayed. Currently in the global south, estimates suggest that half of total pesticide use is on cotton.
Genetically engineered cotton that produces a caterpillar-killing toxin is being promoted as a way to reduce pesticide use. But that will be a temporary fix, as the cotton bollworm and other insects are sure eventually to develop resistance to the toxin. In India, for example, the engineered crops could lose their protection within three or four years if their acreage continues to grow.
Almost 22 billion pounds of weed killer are applied annually to U.S. cotton (pdf) -- more chemical per acre than is sprayed on soybeans and three times as much as an acre of wheat gets. To curb the soil erosion that's all too common on cotton land, "no-till" methods have been introduced on a large scale. But they require even heavier spraying of herbicides.
Even after a field has succeeded in producing a good crop, it isn't finished being sprayed: To ease harvest, defoliants are used to strip leaves from the plants.
Cotton fiber usually undergoes extensive processing even before it is spun into thread, including treatment with caustic sodium hydroxide to remove waxes. Most cotton thread or fabric is bleached to allow dying to the desired color. Anti-wrinkle technology can involve dangerous or even carcinogenic compounds like formaldehyde.
And all such treatments are big water users. Bleaching the cloth for a single shirt generates as much as 15 gallons of polluted wastewater.
Before being shipped off to a big factory or backroom sweatshop, most cotton thread or cloth is dyed. With the world textile industry using 10,000 different dyes and pigments, it's little wonder that environmental agencies have some difficulty keeping up with dye pollution.
Dyeing does more environmental damage than any other manufacturing step, and it's hard to hide. Villagers living near dyeing plants in southern India have reported that drinking water flowing from their taps can be red one day, green the next.
Booming demand for brightly colored cotton shirts and dresses has led to increased use of so-called "fiber reactive dyes" that bind to the cotton fiber, keeping it color-fast. Many such reactive dyes are toxic and can pass right through water-treatment facilities untouched. Some, such as azo dyes, are not easily broken down in the environment.
Dye effluents can contain any of a long list of hazardous metals: copper, cobalt, chromium, nickel, zinc, lead, antimony, silver, cadmium or mercury. Little is known about the fate or effects of chemical compounds called "auxiliaries" that are used to improve performance of the dyes.
Our top three suppliers -- China, Mexico and India -- together account for 42 percent of our clothing imports. Today, clothes and other textile products are easily the No. 1 category of imports into the United States from India and No. 2 from China, after computers. And the shift of clothing production to Asia and Latin America has shifted the chemical burden as well.
A cluster of ten textile/dyeing plants in southern India were reported this year to be dumping 7 million liters of effluent per day onto their own land, supposedly for irrigation (pdf). Having seeped into the ground, the dye pollutants and salts have rendered local groundwater unusable for actual irrigation by nearby farmers. And drinking water has to be brought into surrounding villages from outside areas that are unaffected by the dye plants.
Tests reported in 2004 showed that textile and dyeing factories in Sanganer, a city of 2 million people in northern India, have released so much polluted effluent that water from the major stream flowing through the city is actually capable of causing genetic mutations.
Meanwhile, according to a recent report (pdf), "In China, the environmental impact of textile production is especially great. Due to inferior technology, '... water consumption per unit of production is about 50 percent higher than in developed countries'. In addition, '... dye residual in wastewater is higher'... and the textile industry is one of the major contributors of industrial sewage."
Then there are the microenvironments that apparel and textile workers endure. A review of studies done worldwide up to 2003 showed that, compared with unexposed populations, textile and dye workers tend to have more nasal, throat, bladder and gastrointestinal cancers. Some cancers are more commonly associated with synthetic fabrics, others with cotton.
Hsiou-Lien Chen and Leslie Davis Burns of the Design and Human Environment Department at Oregon State University published a paper last year comparing the environmental impacts of the major classes of textile fiber. They considered all phases: the resources going into fabric; its production; dyeing, printing and finishing; use and maintenance; and disposal. Their conclusion:Natural fibers are often associated with environmental responsibility, but ... fiber content alone may not be an accurate indicator of the full environmental cost of producing textile products ... Because of the multifaceted nature of the impact, terms like environmentally responsible or green are difficult to apply, and current usage of such terms is sometimes misleading about the real environmental qualities of textile products. Our analysis indicates that in one way or other, virtually all textile products have a negative impact on the environment.
The entrepreneur has no clothes
The growing consumption of organic cotton is not a panacea. It's fine as far as it goes, but benefits are limited to curtailment of chemical use. Bale-per-acre yields tend to be lower, so feeding our cotton appetite organically would require plowing up even more acres. And cotton has a lot of other impacts that most organic production doesn't address. More than half of the irrigated agricultural land in the world is sown to cotton, and that depletes water resources and can lead to ruin of soils through salinization. Land cultivation for cotton production, which is often more intense on organic farms, is already responsible for huge losses of soil through erosion. Each acre of cotton represents a lost acre of natural ecosystem, whether it's Texas grassland or Central American forest. Damming of rivers for irrigation projects destroys even more ecosystems.
It's no wonder some have suggested, only half jokingly, that it's probably more ecologically friendly to take petroleum and turn it directly into polyester than to burn it as fuel to cultivate, fertilize, water and harvest cotton, destroying so much soil, water and biodiversity in the process.
And with no limits on total consumption, producing bigger supplies of organic clothing won't repair the damage. Even the greenest clothing companies depend for their survival on customers with overflowing closets to buy even more new stuff.
Whatever the intentions of domestic entrepreneurial companies like Gaiam, Inc. -- where, says a corporate statement, "we believe that all of the Earth's living matter, air, oceans and land form an interconnected system that can be seen as a single entity" -- or American Apparel, Inc., with its reputation for avoiding sweatshop labor, the practical result of their efforts is to add to the bulk of new material jammed into the nation's collective closet, not replace it.
Thrift stores are a less wasteful way to dress, but they account for a tiny share of total sales. Goodwill Industries saw $1.8 billion in sales in 2006 -- a fraction of 1 percent of the market for new threads. The Salvation Army handles several hundred million garments each year, but that's only a couple of percent of new-product sales.
Most donated clothes end up being baled and shipped to impoverished countries, and that isn't necessarily doing anyone a favor. There is evidence that imports of hand-me-downs from the West undermines the ability of African nations, for example, to clothe their own populations independently of foreign charity or apparel brokers (pdf).
The only way to make a dent in the ecological impact of textile products is to slash consumption where it's now the highest. But such a trend would doubtless eat into the profits of Gaiam as well as Wal-Mart, and the supply of desirable castoffs going to thrift stores would quickly dry up.
License to shop
Government economists attempting to estimate inflation by tracking the prices of identical products over time have the most trouble with the clothing portion of their standard "basket" of goods and services, because the turnover of products in apparel is the highest of any category (pdf).
But the way the current economy is structured, such constant churning is necessary. If every American suddenly started buying and keeping a wardrobe just big enough to be regarded as a necessity, not a luxury (let's say one full suitcase per person -- you pick the size of the suitcase), the retail economy would be sent reeling.
Industry has its own ideas about how to stop that from happening. Cotton Inc., the most prominent group representing that fiber -- and the industrialists, retailers and big cotton farmers that depend on it -- energetically promotes clothing consumption through its Lifestyle Monitor magazine. Last year, in a typical article on its website, entitled "Let's go shopping," the magazine revealed an expert's analysis of shopping behavior (and its condescending attitude toward women):
- In the piece, a "fashion and lifestyle public relations" expert explains, "With higher disposable income comes more flexibility in purchasing, and we all definitely enjoy flexibility and options!"
- But, according to Cotton Inc.'s manager of market research, it doesn't take a bigger paycheck to stimulate shopping behavior: "There are certainly women who love shopping more when they are in a tighter financial situation, since it forces them to be savvier consumers."
- And, she adds, "Whether women admit it or not, celebrities and the media do have an influence on how many women feel about certain fashions ... When people are given the information and the tools about how to look and feel better through their wardrobe, they definitely enjoy shopping more!"
- Whether it's "a weight loss or weight gain reflecting these positive feelings towards shopping," it's time to buy, says Cotton, Inc.: "If your body has changed, you really do need to go out and buy new clothing. It's a license to shop. and it removes any guilt you might have about spending money."
And it's all made possible by the dirt-cheap merchandise. Boston College professor Juliet Schor, author of several books on consumerism, has written:
It is now possible to buy clothing, long a high-priced and valuable commodity, by the pound, for prices comparable to cheap agricultural products such as rice and beans. This is a historically unprecedented situation. Low apparel prices have contributed to what we might term "excessive accumulation" of garments by American consumers and a move toward "disposable apparel." Excessive accumulation is characterized by high rates of discard, low rates of utilization of existing inventories of garments, rapid fashion cycles and a failure to wear garments through their useful life cycles. Excessive accumulation has been exacerbated by rapid economic growth in the 1990s and the continuing decline of apparel prices. (pdf)Cheap clothes are widely viewed as giving a boost to working Americans because, in the words of Wal-Mart CEO Lee Scott, "Our customers simply don't have the money to buy basic necessities between paychecks." But Schor points out that "maintaining a regime of ecologically, unsustainable, but low prices in order to sustain purchasing power for the poor solves a problem for a subset of the population but reproduces another one for the entire planet."
With clothing, good marketing can easily undermine education and exhortation. One university study found that people who have good knowledge of apparel's environmental costs are not any more likely to practice "environmentally responsible consumption" than those who are unaware of the problem. Even clothes boasting a "Made in USA" label don't seem able to overcome their price disadvantage. Recent surveys (pdf) projected that advertisements highlighting the domestic origin of nonimported clothing would not have much influence on shoppers.
So the bought-and-forgotten clothes keep piling up, and nobody (outside the closet-remodeling industry) seems happy: not the holiday shoppers, not the gift recipients, not the image consultants, not the corporate bean counters, not the textile and apparel workers, not the cotton farmers of Asia and Africa, and least of all Mother Nature.
All in all, the "Save Money, Live Better" strategy is starting to look a little threadbare.
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Posted by: utilitarianist on Nov 30, 2007 1:06 AM
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As for pollution a simple change in property laws would deter polluting people's water supply and land, there is no need for a violent bloody revolution to make these changes which many people in those countries seem to think is the solution. Maybe if there was a little more libertarianism and a little less socialism in India, China and Mexico they would be as developped as places like Argentina and South Korea who had the sense to realise steady evolution is the only way to "progress".
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Posted by: ellie on Nov 30, 2007 4:01 AM
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the heck with fashion, hang onto something long enough and it becomes vintage... use my clothes instead of a scale, if it begins to get tight, cut down on the food...
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Nov 30, 2007 5:11 AM
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It seems more condescending to ignore the reality that women drive maybe 90% of this problem, and strongly influence the remaining 10%.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Nov 30, 2007 6:16 AM
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"Whether it's "a weight loss or weight gain reflecting these positive feelings towards shopping," it's time to buy, says Cotton, Inc.: "If your body has changed, you really do need to go out and buy new clothing. It's a license to shop. and it removes any guilt you might have about spending money."
I am SO glad this was included. I have been pointing out for years how environmentally irresponsible yo-yoing is!!!!!!! Trying to find your own body's natural weight and keep it constant is the right thing to do. One of the real reasons the government is planning to connect global warming to obesity this spring is to spur the economy. I have no objections to them telling people to walk. But they have hidden agenda's. It may make some people thinner enough to go shopping. But it will not make them very thin as body size is not just about lifestyle. So we will start blaming fat people for global warming. It is win win for the powers that be. The thin "fat-cats" in their McMansions have their scapegoat - the obese poor. The fat middle class will go beyond walking and healthy eating to extreme dieting to escape the stigma. They will yo-yo and shop away! A few ounces off waist lines will turn into a heavier carbon footprint in the long run.
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Posted by: patagonianomore on Nov 30, 2007 7:12 AM
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The company is now recyling much of their clothing to make new clothing and making less of an impact on the earth. They make fleece from plastic soda bottles. Their nylon products, which are corn-based, come from gmo-free corn, and their sneakers come from hemp and recycled gum soles from old sneakers. In the end, because their clothing last so long, you don't end up buying more and you consume less.
Lots more to say but if you read Chouinard's, "Let My People Go Surfing," that will go into detail what he said about the clothing industry back in fall of 1997.
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Posted by: whotnext on Nov 30, 2007 8:41 AM
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Now I discover that COTTON is cursed with loads of toxicity, too. It's getting really hard to find anything 100% cotton these days,too. Dang.
Are 100% linen and silk OK? I can find those at upscale consignment stores sometimes for a low price. Anyone know of reliable hemp clothing sources? I'm way beyond caring about fashion and filling a big closet and on a tight budget anyway. Maybe it's time to look for a nudist colony in a warm climate!
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Posted by: Soco on Nov 30, 2007 9:23 AM
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I'd rather support third world labor by proxy.
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Posted by: D. Conover on Nov 30, 2007 9:26 AM
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There's an American company in South Carolina that produces bamboo clothing (Bamboosa), and I had a couple of fascinating interviews with those people earlier this year. I left that story a bit befuddled as to why American farmers and researchers weren't taking more of an interest.
There are a few miracle plants that provide renewable resources with little adverse effects for the planet, and bamboo and hemp are among them. Unlike hemp, bamboo doesn't have any silly stigmas, but research into uses of bamboo is rare in this country.
For instance: The process that converts bamboo fiber into textiles was developed by Chinese engineers, and they're not sharing it. So there's no domestic textile market for American-grown bamboo. Yet there's nothing stopping American researchers from developing their own processes, perhaps for fibers that come from bamboo species that flourish naturally here. And if you develop that process and market that clothing, then you're introducing an environmentally friendly crop that farmers can cultivate on land that might otherwise be non-productive.
The founders of Bamboosa approached their state universities with this idea: Why not do some research on these fibers? That's what Ag Schools and Textile Science departments used to do. But they got no interest whatsoever.
I think the message of this article is a great one. But I'd also like to see more interest in alternatives that consume less energy and leave less of a chemical footprint. If they make more money for farmers, I'm all for that, too.
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Posted by: sarahk on Nov 30, 2007 9:32 AM
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If you see someone who is the correct size for your clothing and that person is working fast-food or low-end retail, just ask them if they would like a box of good-quality clothing items. Usually, they are happy to be the recipient.
The day laborers in my area are always in need of proper seasonal clothing so I clean out unused or gently used items from my huspand's closet for them. White T-shirts, socks are very popular with them. Petite men's jeans are also needed, but I don't have any of those to give.
If you have teenagers who have amassed lots of unused clothing, take the clothes to the high-schools in the poor area of town. The staff usually has a number of kids who are in need of clothing.
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Posted by: garry minor on Nov 30, 2007 10:23 AM
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Henry Ford built and fueled a car primarily with hemp. The cellulose plastic panels ten times stronger than steel. Synthetic plastics were developed using cellulose technology! It grows from the Equator to the Arctic Circle in soil and conditions other crops won't grow, without the need for fertilizers, herbicides, or pesticides to foul the soil and water, and with less water than most other crops. One acre of hemp equals four of timber for pulp and you harvest it every year, tree's take a lifetime. Do the math on that! It requires a fraction of the chemicals needed by wood pulp for processing. It is ten times as efficient as corn for ethanol production. It's roots grow deep into the soil actually improving it for next years crop, while cotton is one of the worst possible crops for our soil, requiring many chemicals that deplete it, and it needs lots of water to grow!
Canvas is Dutch for cannabis. For thousands of years all ships sails and most clothing were of hemp fiber, which is the longest and strongest in nature. It's seed is the single most nutritious thing you can eat. Our Government stockpiles it as a strategic food source under Executive order #12919,. yet "WE THE PEOPLE" are denied it's many benefits today. This seed could replace the need for hormones and remnants in our feed stock which is why American beef is banned in Europe.
You and I have cannabinoid receptors in our body. Cannabis CANNOT kill you! Too much water can kill you, but not cannabis. Only if a bale were to fall on you. In Canada and Europe cannabis has been proven to promote the growth of brain cells and destroy tumors. It has been found very helpful with Alzheimers, MS, autism, chronic pain, epilepsy, depression, migraine, arthritis, nausea, asthma, emphysema, diabetes, alcoholism, drug addiction, herpes, Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Tourettes, Crohns disease and more. But our own FDA refuses to allow testing here in the land of the FREE.
Hemp industrialization will create millions of Earth friendly jobs from the farm to the laboratory. It will redistribute wealth and bring social harmony to all.
The War on drugs in reality is a war on cannabis. Corporate drug testing does one thing, weed out the cannabis users. Everyone knows you can snort a line, get drunk, or eat a pill and pass a test within days. Because cannabis is not toxic to your system it passes very slowly, your body likes it! It's good for us!
The problem is that our Government and media have kept the public ignorant and in the dark regarding the most useful plant on the planet. They will watch the Earth burn before their eyes before they will give up their billions. They already are!!!
FOOD, FUEL, SHELTER, MEDICINE, PLEASURE, SPIRITUALITY, UNITY!
The Tree of Life,
Kaneh bosm, cannabis, hemp!!
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 30, 2007 2:54 PM
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"...If every American suddenly started buying and keeping a wardrobe just big enough to be regarded as a necessity, not a luxury, the retail economy would be sent reeling."
Where this leaves us is: We have overpopulated the planet, even in the so-called "developed" nations (Developed how? In things and consumption? We obviously haven't developed adequately in wisdom.) And capitalism, once a useful engine to drive economies with constantly-growing demand and supply, has now begun to turn into a cancer, consuming its host. The conundrum presented by this article is very much like a man who pulls himself up by his own rope (or bootstraps?) while constantly cutting off the excess as waste, until he finds he's so high he'll fall to his death. (Question: How long can a man [or a society] hang there?)
Beside universal, free birth control, we desperately need a new economic system to replace the one we have that only works with constantly-increasing consumption, but increasingly, does not work. If we do not find that system, and soon, the human species is not going to like at all the world that will exist within a century from now. Make no mistake about it: we cannot destroy Mother Earth; but Mother Earth can certainly destroy us, if that's what it takes to restore balance.
Considering how little time a century is, next to the three million-or-so years Homo Sapiens have been on Earth, we are out of rope.
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Unless you are making a serious transition in your life, say, from student to corporate, then there is absolutely no NEED to buy that many new items of clothing per year. An exception can be made for rapidly growing children, but other than that, those numbers astound me. In the past 4 years I have purchased maybe 75 items of clothing total, and usually only to adapt to a colder climate.
Who can buy so much?
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Reading about all the shitty chemicals used to make fabrics reminded me of the meth lab commercials.
Sigh. Another needlessly, horribly destructive industry. And what can we do about it? Buying organic is masturbation, very glad to see the article say as much. Short of hiring people to make clothes for you from grown fabric, wtf are we supposed to do about this? I tried the thrift store thing, yuck. Most of those clothes are there for a reason, and its not because I want to wear them. I could drive all over the city looking through the stores and find maybe one or two things decent enough to wear.
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And, she adds, "Whether women admit it or not, celebrities and the media do have an influence on how many women feel about certain fashions ... When people are given the information and the tools about how to look and feel better through their wardrobe, they definitely enjoy shopping more!"
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This society is screwed, and it is a long way to recovery.
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Not to pine in toto for the good old days, but things were not always like this in this country, and I suggest that they have become that way because in many ways individuals have been devalued by current society and too often once devalued continue to devalue themselves.
There is no easy solution, but I am reminded of a young woman who used to work for me who knew who she was, so when she wanted a chair she thought enough of herself to wait for months until she found the exact chair she wanted. She would never have bought much of the slop that Wal-Mart shovels out each day.
My solution is to try to be happy without consuming unnecessarily, and the only way to do this is to (and as not even a Deist I do not say this from a religious viewpoint) value yourself and try to act towards others in as Christ-like a way as possible, so that you will not try to find the false happiness of the mall.
And materially, if you need a coat maybe there is a neighbor who sews who could you make you a coat fine enough to treasure. Pat Nixon in her honest cloth coat comes to mind here.
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Somehow it just seems like the same old dynamics, inflated and expanded to global proportions. It was just a matter of convincing Citizens to become self-directing Mannequins, responsive and compliant, pre-approved to buy and display the products of such Creative Genius.
We Mannequins are waking up all over the place! It couldn't have been otherwise. Greetings Citizens all!
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Posted by: utilitarianist on Nov 30, 2007 1:06 AM
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As for pollution a simple change in property laws would deter polluting people's water supply and land, there is no need for a violent bloody revolution to make these changes which many people in those countries seem to think is the solution. Maybe if there was a little more libertarianism and a little less socialism in India, China and Mexico they would be as developped as places like Argentina and South Korea who had the sense to realise steady evolution is the only way to "progress".
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Posted by: ellie on Nov 30, 2007 4:01 AM
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the heck with fashion, hang onto something long enough and it becomes vintage... use my clothes instead of a scale, if it begins to get tight, cut down on the food...
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It seems more condescending to ignore the reality that women drive maybe 90% of this problem, and strongly influence the remaining 10%.
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"Whether it's "a weight loss or weight gain reflecting these positive feelings towards shopping," it's time to buy, says Cotton, Inc.: "If your body has changed, you really do need to go out and buy new clothing. It's a license to shop. and it removes any guilt you might have about spending money."
I am SO glad this was included. I have been pointing out for years how environmentally irresponsible yo-yoing is!!!!!!! Trying to find your own body's natural weight and keep it constant is the right thing to do. One of the real reasons the government is planning to connect global warming to obesity this spring is to spur the economy. I have no objections to them telling people to walk. But they have hidden agenda's. It may make some people thinner enough to go shopping. But it will not make them very thin as body size is not just about lifestyle. So we will start blaming fat people for global warming. It is win win for the powers that be. The thin "fat-cats" in their McMansions have their scapegoat - the obese poor. The fat middle class will go beyond walking and healthy eating to extreme dieting to escape the stigma. They will yo-yo and shop away! A few ounces off waist lines will turn into a heavier carbon footprint in the long run.
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Posted by: patagonianomore on Nov 30, 2007 7:12 AM
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The company is now recyling much of their clothing to make new clothing and making less of an impact on the earth. They make fleece from plastic soda bottles. Their nylon products, which are corn-based, come from gmo-free corn, and their sneakers come from hemp and recycled gum soles from old sneakers. In the end, because their clothing last so long, you don't end up buying more and you consume less.
Lots more to say but if you read Chouinard's, "Let My People Go Surfing," that will go into detail what he said about the clothing industry back in fall of 1997.
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Now I discover that COTTON is cursed with loads of toxicity, too. It's getting really hard to find anything 100% cotton these days,too. Dang.
Are 100% linen and silk OK? I can find those at upscale consignment stores sometimes for a low price. Anyone know of reliable hemp clothing sources? I'm way beyond caring about fashion and filling a big closet and on a tight budget anyway. Maybe it's time to look for a nudist colony in a warm climate!
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I'd rather support third world labor by proxy.
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Posted by: D. Conover on Nov 30, 2007 9:26 AM
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There's an American company in South Carolina that produces bamboo clothing (Bamboosa), and I had a couple of fascinating interviews with those people earlier this year. I left that story a bit befuddled as to why American farmers and researchers weren't taking more of an interest.
There are a few miracle plants that provide renewable resources with little adverse effects for the planet, and bamboo and hemp are among them. Unlike hemp, bamboo doesn't have any silly stigmas, but research into uses of bamboo is rare in this country.
For instance: The process that converts bamboo fiber into textiles was developed by Chinese engineers, and they're not sharing it. So there's no domestic textile market for American-grown bamboo. Yet there's nothing stopping American researchers from developing their own processes, perhaps for fibers that come from bamboo species that flourish naturally here. And if you develop that process and market that clothing, then you're introducing an environmentally friendly crop that farmers can cultivate on land that might otherwise be non-productive.
The founders of Bamboosa approached their state universities with this idea: Why not do some research on these fibers? That's what Ag Schools and Textile Science departments used to do. But they got no interest whatsoever.
I think the message of this article is a great one. But I'd also like to see more interest in alternatives that consume less energy and leave less of a chemical footprint. If they make more money for farmers, I'm all for that, too.
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Posted by: sarahk on Nov 30, 2007 9:32 AM
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If you see someone who is the correct size for your clothing and that person is working fast-food or low-end retail, just ask them if they would like a box of good-quality clothing items. Usually, they are happy to be the recipient.
The day laborers in my area are always in need of proper seasonal clothing so I clean out unused or gently used items from my huspand's closet for them. White T-shirts, socks are very popular with them. Petite men's jeans are also needed, but I don't have any of those to give.
If you have teenagers who have amassed lots of unused clothing, take the clothes to the high-schools in the poor area of town. The staff usually has a number of kids who are in need of clothing.
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Posted by: garry minor on Nov 30, 2007 10:23 AM
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Henry Ford built and fueled a car primarily with hemp. The cellulose plastic panels ten times stronger than steel. Synthetic plastics were developed using cellulose technology! It grows from the Equator to the Arctic Circle in soil and conditions other crops won't grow, without the need for fertilizers, herbicides, or pesticides to foul the soil and water, and with less water than most other crops. One acre of hemp equals four of timber for pulp and you harvest it every year, tree's take a lifetime. Do the math on that! It requires a fraction of the chemicals needed by wood pulp for processing. It is ten times as efficient as corn for ethanol production. It's roots grow deep into the soil actually improving it for next years crop, while cotton is one of the worst possible crops for our soil, requiring many chemicals that deplete it, and it needs lots of water to grow!
Canvas is Dutch for cannabis. For thousands of years all ships sails and most clothing were of hemp fiber, which is the longest and strongest in nature. It's seed is the single most nutritious thing you can eat. Our Government stockpiles it as a strategic food source under Executive order #12919,. yet "WE THE PEOPLE" are denied it's many benefits today. This seed could replace the need for hormones and remnants in our feed stock which is why American beef is banned in Europe.
You and I have cannabinoid receptors in our body. Cannabis CANNOT kill you! Too much water can kill you, but not cannabis. Only if a bale were to fall on you. In Canada and Europe cannabis has been proven to promote the growth of brain cells and destroy tumors. It has been found very helpful with Alzheimers, MS, autism, chronic pain, epilepsy, depression, migraine, arthritis, nausea, asthma, emphysema, diabetes, alcoholism, drug addiction, herpes, Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Tourettes, Crohns disease and more. But our own FDA refuses to allow testing here in the land of the FREE.
Hemp industrialization will create millions of Earth friendly jobs from the farm to the laboratory. It will redistribute wealth and bring social harmony to all.
The War on drugs in reality is a war on cannabis. Corporate drug testing does one thing, weed out the cannabis users. Everyone knows you can snort a line, get drunk, or eat a pill and pass a test within days. Because cannabis is not toxic to your system it passes very slowly, your body likes it! It's good for us!
The problem is that our Government and media have kept the public ignorant and in the dark regarding the most useful plant on the planet. They will watch the Earth burn before their eyes before they will give up their billions. They already are!!!
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"...If every American suddenly started buying and keeping a wardrobe just big enough to be regarded as a necessity, not a luxury, the retail economy would be sent reeling."
Where this leaves us is: We have overpopulated the planet, even in the so-called "developed" nations (Developed how? In things and consumption? We obviously haven't developed adequately in wisdom.) And capitalism, once a useful engine to drive economies with constantly-growing demand and supply, has now begun to turn into a cancer, consuming its host. The conundrum presented by this article is very much like a man who pulls himself up by his own rope (or bootstraps?) while constantly cutting off the excess as waste, until he finds he's so high he'll fall to his death. (Question: How long can a man [or a society] hang there?)
Beside universal, free birth control, we desperately need a new economic system to replace the one we have that only works with constantly-increasing consumption, but increasingly, does not work. If we do not find that system, and soon, the human species is not going to like at all the world that will exist within a century from now. Make no mistake about it: we cannot destroy Mother Earth; but Mother Earth can certainly destroy us, if that's what it takes to restore balance.
Considering how little time a century is, next to the three million-or-so years Homo Sapiens have been on Earth, we are out of rope.
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No one I know.
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Unless you are making a serious transition in your life, say, from student to corporate, then there is absolutely no NEED to buy that many new items of clothing per year. An exception can be made for rapidly growing children, but other than that, those numbers astound me. In the past 4 years I have purchased maybe 75 items of clothing total, and usually only to adapt to a colder climate.
Who can buy so much?
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Reading about all the shitty chemicals used to make fabrics reminded me of the meth lab commercials.
Sigh. Another needlessly, horribly destructive industry. And what can we do about it? Buying organic is masturbation, very glad to see the article say as much. Short of hiring people to make clothes for you from grown fabric, wtf are we supposed to do about this? I tried the thrift store thing, yuck. Most of those clothes are there for a reason, and its not because I want to wear them. I could drive all over the city looking through the stores and find maybe one or two things decent enough to wear.
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And, she adds, "Whether women admit it or not, celebrities and the media do have an influence on how many women feel about certain fashions ... When people are given the information and the tools about how to look and feel better through their wardrobe, they definitely enjoy shopping more!"
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Posted by: l_m_n on Nov 30, 2007 7:54 PM
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This society is screwed, and it is a long way to recovery.
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Posted by: hackbut on Nov 30, 2007 9:03 PM
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Not to pine in toto for the good old days, but things were not always like this in this country, and I suggest that they have become that way because in many ways individuals have been devalued by current society and too often once devalued continue to devalue themselves.
There is no easy solution, but I am reminded of a young woman who used to work for me who knew who she was, so when she wanted a chair she thought enough of herself to wait for months until she found the exact chair she wanted. She would never have bought much of the slop that Wal-Mart shovels out each day.
My solution is to try to be happy without consuming unnecessarily, and the only way to do this is to (and as not even a Deist I do not say this from a religious viewpoint) value yourself and try to act towards others in as Christ-like a way as possible, so that you will not try to find the false happiness of the mall.
And materially, if you need a coat maybe there is a neighbor who sews who could you make you a coat fine enough to treasure. Pat Nixon in her honest cloth coat comes to mind here.
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Posted by: talkville on Dec 1, 2007 2:39 AM
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Somehow it just seems like the same old dynamics, inflated and expanded to global proportions. It was just a matter of convincing Citizens to become self-directing Mannequins, responsive and compliant, pre-approved to buy and display the products of such Creative Genius.
We Mannequins are waking up all over the place! It couldn't have been otherwise. Greetings Citizens all!
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Posted by: Jeff Hoffman on Dec 1, 2007 10:08 AM
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Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Dec 3, 2007 3:17 AM
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my apologies
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Dec 3, 2007 11:45 AM
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Posted by: stina723 on Dec 4, 2007 9:27 AM
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