I am tired of small town Iowa & New Hampshire culling the primary crowd before the rest of the country even gets to take a pass at the candidates. Can you imagine this guy winning in New York, California, Ohio or Colorado? No.

Case closed.

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Only way this might not happen would be to reform the election process, use only paper ballots, use an international watchdog group to make sure American elections don’t imitate Banana Republic democracy, and controlling Republican tactics like voter caging, and anything it takes to make sure everyone has the right to cast his or her vote. Until that happens the case is not closed. If someone like baby Bush can become president, the field is still wide open for more deceit.


It is easy to image another wacko in the White House and Huck’s commitment to religious wacko-hood could make the following eventually inevitable:

fusion of Church and State
a harder occupation of the corporation in American government and all that entails.
constitutional amendment banning abortion (no exceptions).
a return to the Biblical stoning of unfaithful women.
Liberals, secularists, and progressive, and other undersirables will be “re-educated”.
membership with a Christian church required for American citizenship.
the poor will stay poor because Jesus will reward them later (politicians, the elite, the rich will have no problem with that)
Evolutionary Theory will no longer be taught in high schools as a science but will be replaced with Christian Science which already has all the answers so no research will be needed at grad schools.
The definition of Theory will no longer mean using evidence for an explanation of our world, instead notions based on belief and which are untestable will be de rigueur.
Thus, despite conflicts with science, magic will be the final word for the explanation of our world.
The Institute for Creation Researchwhich rewards degrees in biology and astro-geophysics will receive billions from the state to research magical kingdoms.

A lot has been left out here but hopefully this insanity will blow over.

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Didn't we hear about compassionate conservatism somewhere else? Make no mistake. The wack-jobs stuff the ballot boxes, but the corporations run the GOP. President Huck would keep his views on primates but quickly shed his populism.

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Huckabee believes that instead of importing low-wage Mexican labor to do jobs Americans won't do, we should . . . breed our own Americans so poor and desperate they'll be willing to do them?

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Huck is a bozo, but Taibbi himself seems oddly entangled in the media circus, even as he derides it.

"... Dean, who ended up stumbling out of Iowa with his balls stuffed in his mouth, learned the hard way that populist campaigns have a way of imploding under the glare of the modern campaign process."

The term 'campaign process' here alludes to the selective editing of a few seconds of tape and the consequent ballyhooing of it throughout the corporate media. Why Taibbi (with his overexcited torture & mutilation imagery) should suddenly have faith that the same forces that saved us from the intelligence of Dean will step in to save us from Huckabee's lunacy --- this could use some explanation.

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I think this is such great theater that I find myself pulling for the guy. The fact that somebody who stakes his whole persona on Stone Age myth and medieval superstition COULD be president is so incredible that I need to see it. Now that the Iraq war is all straightened out and working fine W can bomb Iran, after the primaries, of course. Then President Huck can take over, and American foreign policy will become the Race to Armageddon. Wow! Do we have a Musharraf-styled military strong man in our future to save us from a Huck-driven terminally weird death spiral? Someone who realizes that science DOES change every generation, while God stays the same, yeah, and the generations of science happen every five years now. There are a lot of very intriguing possibilities in a President Huck regime. And the implications of such a catastrophe could make a coup d'etat palatable. By the way, the next president is going to be Anybody-but-Hillary. Geri Thompson's little yellow dog could be president if he runs opposite Hillary. That's why we really do need to worry about this. Americans are SCHTOOO-PID.

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First who cares what Huckabee believes, this is America and anyone is FREE to believe in wha they want. The trick is NOT to impose that on me. JFK was a Catholic, Carter was backed by the Evangelicals but it wasnt apparent in their legislation.


Mike Huckabee has so much more going for him than any of the democratic front runners - we know what Clinton is all about.. Republican in democratic clothing, Obama is a shot in the dark as we really don't know much about what he is capable of and Edwards, well he just doesn't seem like a strong leader!

Huckabee at least has a track record running a government as do each of the republican front runners.

I don't see Huckabee having any legs in this race and it seems it will boil down to Clinton and Romney - the real agents of change will be left in the dust and it will be business as usual!

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Just like the Progressive William Jennings Bryan, who argued in the Scopes Monkey Trial that evolution meant elevating "supposedly superior intellects," "eliminating the weak," "paralyzing the hope of reform," jeopardizing "the doctrine of brotherhood," and undermining "the sympathetic activities of a civilized society."

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Being a Brit, I'd not usually comment on the politics of another country but as the US influences so many other countries by its choice of President, not least here in the UK (commonly known as the 52nd State of the USA ...) I find the prospect of Mr Huckerbee getting the top job is scary! It's not just the zealot in him that's frightening, it's his obvious capacity for corruption. Putting aside the allegations of misuse of funds, the fact that he would offer preferential treatment to a guy just because he can play the guitar well is off the scale!

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Huckabee might say, "I am not a primate"

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Thanks Matt Taibbi

Another phrase might be "institutionalized psychosis".

No this is NOT labelling someone who has different views as "nuts".

I don't like to diagnose from afar but this is genuine mental illness.

This is the mind poison of fundamentalist religion at work.

I fear deeply for the nation should Huckabee become our elected leader

Dr. Rick Lippin
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
Southampton,Pa

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hquain and mazel (Nov 24 3:30am), I agree with both of you. I am very disappointed in Taibbi for echoing the corporate media misrepresentation of Dean and Kucinich as if it were valid characterization.

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I find it increasingly alarming that the state of education has eroded to the point where many American's share Huckabee's lack of belief in evolution. In fact, a Gallup poll survey on June 11th of this year found that just 49% of Americans believe in evolution, with 48% disbelieving!

The conversation conservative leaders are having with their flocks is that America is a christian nation, and we must elect leaders that will carry out god's will. They are telling religious people everywhere that god was a huge part of the government in this country and that its only been recently that god has been removed from the public square. They argue that the first ammendment doesn't mean that government and religion should be seperate. They have convinced a huge group of people that we should have a religious government.

The conversation we all should be having with anyone who will listen should be about the very deliberate secular nature of our government and how important it is for religious and non-religious alike to maintain a religious neutral government. We should be pointing out that even different sects of religions don't agree, so its important to keep our government free from religious influence so people are free to practice (or not) as they see fit in their private life.

Mike Huckabee is a scary spectre of what could take the Bush cynical token rewarding of religious conservatives with key govenment positions, to an all out war on anyone who doesn't embrace ultra-orthodox christian religiosity.

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From Mike Huckabee's remarks at Family Research Council's Values Voter Summit in October of this year.
"Sometimes we talk about why we're importing so many people in our workforce," the former Arkansas governor said. "It might be for the last 35 years, we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce had we not had the holocaust of liberalized abortion under a flawed Supreme Court ruling in 1973."
CNN, October 21, 2007

However, Huckabee's view of illegal immigrants, their childern and abortion is, itself, mixed, to say the least.

"If they're caught as illegal aliens, I don't have any problem with sending them back," Huckabee said.

But the governor did not back down on his positions in support of certain benefits for the children of illegal aliens, such as allowing prenatal care for pregnant immigrants and his proposal to offer scholarships to undocumented children who graduate from an Arkansas high school. (EDITOR'S NOTE: This was not clearly described in the article. Huckabee did not want to "offer scholarships to undocumented children." What he actually supported was allowing them to be eligible to apply for college scholarships if they qualified.)

As for allowing immigrants to receive free prenatal care, Huckabee said that's part of his pro-life sentiment as well as that of Amendment 65 of the state constitution, which says that Arkansas considers life to begin at conception.
Mike Huckabee President 2008, May 21, 2006

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Impeachment of Cheney
Not for profit health care
Getting out of Iraq
Repealing NAFTA, CAFTA, PAFTA and all the other Shaftas
Repealing the Patriot Act
Restoring the US Constitution
Restoring Habeas Corpus
Restoring Posse Comitatus
Holding Wall Street, Haliburton, KBR, Bechtel,
Blackwater, GE and all the other war profiteers accountable
Getting off the fossil fuel teat through greater access to public transportation and alternative sources of energy
Shutting down Gitmo and The School of The Americas
Restoring the fairness doctrine and independent media
Investment in green collar jobs on American soil
Protection for pensions and worker rights
Closing off-shore tax (hedge fund) loop holes
Staying out of the Pakistan mess
Taking care of our Vetrans
Restoring truth (and sanity) in lending laws
He has an absolutely stunning ,intelligent, eloquent wife (who holds two degrees), who actually does honest Peace Corps type work and more importantly, can never run for President in the U. S.
I want a President who reads and leads and who got it right the first time.

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Matt Taibbi is a refreshing read. His irreverant, eviscerating commentary on the nuttiness of Mike Huckabee echoes the views of all those who believe in reason and the scienfific method. To have Huckabee out there challenging the Republican frontrunners shows how far the GOP has slipped from the party of elitist snobs to that of boneheaded, superstitious, primitives.

But Matt gets caught up in his own rhetoric when he lists Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich as fellow wackos along with the greedy, wild-eyed Huckabee. Ron Paul is a medical doctor and a libertarian. Libertarians are an odd lot, but they're not religious wackos. Dennis Kucinich is Catholic, but his political views are as clear-eyed as any atheist's. Neither Paul nor Kucinich belong on Taibbi's wacko list. Putting them there only enables the pro-war crowd to dismiss their completely sane views about getting us out of Iraq and refusing to sanction the bombing of Iran. Come on, Matt, don't use a shotgun approach to blast away at wackohood. That serves to put those at risk whose only craziness consists in standing up to the military-industrial complex.

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"It’s your option whether to accept the Bible as truth. It is also your option if you want to continue to believe in the 150 year-old theory of evolution, which was conceived prior to the development of modern microscopes. However, science has proven evolution to be a pathetically antiquated argument for the origin of life. In “Darwin’s Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution” written in 1996 by Dr. Michael Behe, a biochemist at Lehigh University, Dr. Behe writes, “The simplicity that was once expected to be the foundation of life has proven to be a phantom; instead, systems of horrendous, irreducible complexity inhabit the cell. The resulting realization that life was designed by an intelligence is a shock to us in the twentieth century who have gotten used to thinking of life as the result of simple natural laws.” Even though the debunking of evolution should’ve been heralded as the number one breakthrough of modern science, most of the scientific community is not ready to admit they were wrong. Why? 1) Acculturation: scientists, like the rest of us, rely largely on the authority of others for much of their information/beliefs, without actually investigating it for themselves. 2) Due to the historical/sociological conflicts between science and theology, scientists are concerned that acknowledging the discovery of design would hurt science. 3) Scientific chauvinism: Despite the fact that 90% of the human race believes in a creator, including many scientists, the scientific community as a whole believes that they’re superior to non-scientists. Admitting that you were wrong can be painful, especially if you consider yourself more intelligent than others."

I also have concluded that the theory of evolution is a failed theory. What proof besides 'everyone believes this' do you offer.
How life came to be is not simply going to be answered by this fraud of a theory. Please also look at www.evolutionisdead.com ,there are many, many other scientist that don't 'believe' life crawled out of a mudpuddle.

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Former Governor Mike Huckabee, not sane?

Preposterous, the man served as a Pastor, Governor and is the best selling author of a successful diet book.

In what bizzarro universe do Mr. Huckabee's accomplishments or personal beliefs indicate insanity?

It is salutory to robustly reject certain of his views, but to depict him as anything but the sober, accomplished and dedicated man that he is deceitful.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY

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I have rarely met an intelligent person that believes in god.

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I will never forgive America for what Dennis Kucinich went through this year. Because he has had the audacity to call for an end to all wars, to announce plans for the creation of a Department of Peace, to question the very culture of viciousness and intolerance and crass commercialism that rules our public discourse, he has been labeled a lunatic by nearly every "responsible" press organ in this country and cruelly mocked to a degree that no civil society should allow an honorable man to endure. The New Yorker, that revolting beacon of glib, self-satisfied affluence, runs a cartoon showing Kucinich sweeping to victory in a primary held on Mars. The New York Times first angrily demands that he not waste any more of our time, then actually physically disposes of him after the passing of some self-imposed fictional electoral deadline. Even the more genuinely funny and more intelligent people in American public life–I’m thinking particularly of Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon–can’t resist savaging Kucinich whenever they get a chance. All because he’s funny-looking, and because he uses the word peace without kidding.

I am a Dennis Kucinich supporter because I believe America’s greatest problem is its incivility, its intolerance to new ideas, its remorseless hatred of weakness and failure, the willingness of its individual citizens to submerge their individual cowardice within the vicious commerce-driven standards of our national self-image. George Bush is a terrible president, but he is merely a by-product of these wider national tendencies, which exist outside of him and independently of him. And these tendencies are symbolized exactly in the laughter directed at Dennis Kucinich. To vote for Dennis Kucinich, I believe, is to vote for man’s right to publicly be who he is and not be ridiculed for it. If we are peaceful people, it is a vote for our right to merely be who we are.
New York Press, February 24, 2004

Sure the above quotation is nearly four years old now, but I hardly think Matt Taibbi's opinion of Representatvie Kucinich has changed in that time.

And, as one who enjoys his offerings and reads them anytime the opportunity arises, I know that Taibbi laddles heavy doses of humorous sarcasm and irony throughout his essays. So when Matt Taibbi writes,"That might also explain the stubbornly high levels of support for Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, who...have still been cast as the nutty uncles of the campaign's interminable family drama[,]he's using sarcasm. It's ironic because he doesn't believe it. The late Kurt Vonnegut used irony and sarcasm. Gore Vidal uses irony and sarcasm.

If you believe strongly enough in Kucinich,here contribute to his campaign:
https://services.myngp.com/ngponlineservices/contribution.

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"In the world of GOP politics, he represents something entirely new -- a cross between John Edwards and Jerry Falwell"

He forgot to add that Huckabee also capitalizes on the guilt over the left and right. For years, guilt over sex allowed religion to manipulate the masses. As we secularized, the guilt was transfered to food. With his diet evangelism, the Huckster does both! Not to mention the stupid U.S. public lists weight loss as their number one goal. The previous poster even mentions him writing a best selling diet book as grounds for credibility. Any nut and his uncle can write a best selling diet book, (because we are just too ignorant to get dieting makes us fatter.) He is capitalizing on the average person's thinderella fantasies - just lose weight and life will fall into place. And look at how many "has been" celebrities have had career revivals by hawking diet products. He is in a new category of his own though - Bubbarella!

p.s. Someone should check to see how those polls are manipulated. Ron Paul gets totally ignored.
p.p.s Someone should also check to see if he secretly didnt have weight loss surgery. Bubbarella has fraud vibes all over him!

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Fighting over Evolution, creation, abortion, the bible,etc. is what got us where we are today. In a war without end. The White House is not a church, the presidency is not a religious calling. Our Constitution has been shredded and it appears that people can't resist the temptation to fight over things that have no place in government. This distraction from what matters has cost us dearly. It's time we learned. Thanks, ANNA

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I lived in Arkansas while he was gov. Nice guy... not someone I want in office, though.

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What has got us to where we are is imperialism and corporatism, not the belief in Biblical inerrancy that's held by many people.

As an old lefty, I've known many progressive evangelicals, including some who are Biblical literalists, and I've found them to be quite sane despite being, from my own religious and scientific perspective, quite mistaken.

I think by attacking them as literally insane, Matt Taibbi has done us and them, and our fruitful coalitions, a real disservice. And he's engaged in a form of psycholgistic fundamentalism, himself.

By all means criticize Huckabee's actions and his ideology -- including his religious beliefs as they impact policy. His Armageddon beliefs are, indeed, a problem. They should be examined and criticized as probably having a deleterious effect on his judgment in foreign affairs. But don't repeat the mistakes of the post-Scopes era by gratuitously insulting a significant part of the electorate with epithets like "crazy". Cultural indocrination and cultural blinders are not the same thing as psychosis.

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Huckabee presided over the poorest state in the country which can also boast of having the nation's most regressive tax structure . Even so, he still managed to leave the state with a BILLION DOLLAR surplus built upon the rape of Arkansas' poorest with huge sales taxes on groceries, drugs, medicine, used cars, etc.
However, Hillary presided with her hubby over a state government that featured despicable crimes; murders of children by politically connected cretins, sale of " tainted blood " drawn from prison inmates and sold worldwide, decapitations officially ruled as suicide, etc.... that have to this date never been addressed. Besides Hillary is also at least a couple hundred I.Q. points superior to Huckabee and has been an outspoken corporatist all her public life.

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Literal biblical interpretations are a cornerstone of fundamental Christian theology. Huckabee's theology is more like the fundamentalist teachings of my 20's--30's childhood and differs from today's fundamentalism and evangelicalism in that the fundamentalists of the Great Depression years considered poverty a mark of God's real children as was genuine compassion for others. The Bible, however, (King James version, please) was treated as a literal dictation, word for word, from the mouth of God himself.

God may not have changed in the last 70--80 years, but fundamentalism certainly has. The acceptance of the Bible as acceptable history can be corrected by education, but the meanness and greed of today's extreme religious right is imbedded in the character itself. These people give God a bad name.

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If you want a hint on how Huckabee would treat the media if he got into power, look at his treatment of Max Brantley and the Arkansas Times when he was Governor. They were singled out by being the only media in Arkansas to be removed the governor's press list. If they wanted to find out what was going on at the Governor's office, they had to read the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. This kind of muzzling of the media is only a taste of what we could expect from Huckabee if he became President.

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The picture says it all. The dog looks smarter than Huckabee, and probably is.

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This guy might win - given that figurehead-level politics has degenerated to an Oprah show... well maybe not THAT scholarly:)
But the throngs shambling through the malls yesterday would get "better deals" with administration/economic marriage ties tightening under another right-wing "surge" - wanna bet who Americans will vote for (with their bucks)

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It makes it look like hunters are all nuts...I don't hunt but since I do fish, I know a lot of hunters. We hang in the same circles ( though I am the only confessed liberal among them ). I don't agree with a lot of what they do, but I won't call it nuts. There's nothing like preparing a meal from food you caught, shot, or grew yourself. And the majority of hunters I know are not so successful that they are shooting up the place; they often get "skunked" and never fire a shot. Having said that, I have a friend who was fired on by an irate fellow hunter and it nearly made him shit his pants. He'd never had anything like that happen to him before. He filed charges. As for the other things Huckabee believes, I am sorry to say that a lot of folks believe the same things, and I don't blame the education system ( unlike most here, I spent 20 years in public education ) but rather those who keep trying to undermine it by cutting funding or denigrating teachers. The fact that so many folks who homeschool their kids are fundamentalists who don't believe in evolution tells me that indeed, it is still being taught in the public schools. That there are those who refuse to accept this is not the fault of educators.

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I hope they weren't his pantyhose.

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Or hasn't anybody noticed that yet? Tell people the Earth is 5-6,000 years old, that Jesus is due back any second now, that Muslims are all terrorists and heathens, and Jews own everything, and you're a shoe-in. Add that all niggers, queers, lesbians, people whose skin is brown without having to lie out in the sun to get a tan, and people with epicanthic folds and other foreigners,obvious sleepers and moles, liberals and other such dangerous sub-humans should all be incarcerated as slave labor on general principles, and you'll probably get a day named after you. And if you really want an in or a promotion, "accidentally" address Shrub as "Sire" or "your majesty". He'd probably say something like, "Well, we both know the Truth, but best not to tell anyone until my Father says it's Time to go and DO it".

I don't know this country anymore, and I'm not sure I want to.

Ian

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He isn't a member of the Council on Foreign Relations so clearly he must be tagged as "insane," just like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Always labelled fringe or crazy and not viable candidates. Why are they not viable? Ron Paul outraised any other in online contributions yet he continues to be called "Not a viable option" by mainstream media and even "alternative" sources such as Noam Chomsky. I am sick of the powers that be telling us who is or is not viable. Clearly, he is a threat and must therefore be marginalized. Don't just read, think.

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Taibbi is at once refreshing and selective in his derision - note his nod to Jewish ownership of the word "holocaust"

It seems Mr. Taibbi knows which side writes his checks.

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However:

Students today are being indoctrinated to believe science and religion are incompatible:

Religion is the last vestige of a dark, gloomy age, in which the masses were subjected to the fear of spirits, ghosts, devils, God, and other imaginary beings by ecclesiastical authorities seeking to maintain political control.

Science, on the other hand, supposedly provides humanity with empirically verifiable knowledge -- understanding the world through quantifiable observation, analysis, reduction and reason.

Current theories in astrophysics cannot account for the formation of galaxies. General relativity contradicts quantum mechanics: these theories cannot be integrated on a sound mathematical basis. The equations needed to explain planets condensing from clouds of gas and dust have not yet been solved, and the origin of the solar system itself remains a mystery.

Evolution is mostly speculation. The physical evidence from the past is fragmentary; of the one billion species believed to have existed, 99 percent did not leave fossils.

In the deliberate breeding of species, there are limits to the changes one can make. When pushed beyond a limit, species become sterile and die out or revert to their standard design. We can induce changes in existing forms via breeding, but cannot generate new complex structures.

If this cannot happen by man’s conscious efforts, why should it happen by blind natural processes? No satisfactory evolutionary models have ever been made.

Ingrid Newkirk of PETA said:

"You cannot find a relevant attribute in human beings that doesn't exist in animals as well. Darwin said that the only difference between humans and other animals was a difference of degree, not kind. If you ground any concept of human rights in a particular attribute, then animals will have to be included. Animals have rights."

Many animal activists base their ethics upon the Darwinian theory of evolution. This must change, as Darwin's theory is being demolished. Michael Cremo & Richard Thompson's Forbidden Archaeology (1993) is a step in that direction. This controversial book shocked the scientific community and became an underground classic.

The book's premise is that evolutionary prejudices held by powerful groups of scientists acts as a "knowledge filter" which has eliminated evidence challenging accepted views, and left us with a radically altered understanding of human origins and antiquity.

Forbidden Archaeology shocked the scientific world with its evidence for extreme human antiquity. It documented hundreds of anomalies in the archaeological record that contradicted the prevailing theory and showed how this massive amount of evidence was systematically "filtered" out. This is how mainstream science reacts (almost like a religion) to any challenge to its deeply held beliefs.

The doctrines of karma and reincarnation as taught in the the Eastern religions provide a valid theistic foundation for animal rights ethics, but are not yet accepted in the secular arena. Research by credible scientists into mind-body dualism and past-life studies suggest it is a real possibility.

In biology, Hoyle and Wickramasinghe calculated the probability of proteins forming from the random interaction of amino acids -- the building blocks of life. They found the odds were one out of ten to the 40,000th power. Given these extreme odds, it is hard to imagine the self-organization of matter without the deliberate intervention of some kind of higher power(s) or intelligence(s).

All life is sacred. Dr. Francis Crick has admitted, "the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle." Future scientists and science teachers would do well to approach the study of the phenomenal world with this kind of reverence.

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I do not know enough about Mike Huckabee to know whether he is sane, but if he was a Southern Baptist preacher, taken together with his "platform" in general, he is unbalanced enough that I would certainly never want him near the presidency.

I was (shudder) raised in the Southern Baptist "church". Recently, I started an autobiography written by someone whe was the son of a Southern Baptist preacher. Sufficient repressed memories surfaced that I had to stop reading it. While I knew and know many sane and sincere people in the Southern Baptist church, what that church HAS BECOME constitutes more of a mental disorder than a religion. To brainwash a child with such poison constitues child abuse.

The downfall of religion in this country started (together with many other causes) about the era when the Southern Baptist church split off from the rest of the Baptists in protest of the abolition of slavery.

In no way would I want Huckabee and his brand of Baptist "religion" in the White House.

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So, Huckabone isn't evolved from primates, huh? This shows his ignorance of science. By definition, humans ARE primates. Our close kinship with the great apes is beyond a shadow of a doubt, what with the fact that 90+ per cent of our genes are IDENTICAL TO THOSE OF CHIMPS, GORILLAS, and ORANGATANS. Does that make us apes? Does that make apes human? Of course not. Are we evolved from apes? Probably not, as the human branch of the primate family seems to have gone its own way somewhere in the distant past, and that's why there are still apes around. Are we primates? Absolutely.

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This is RichardKanePA ( @ ) a o l . c o m
Bin Laden and the Bin Laden wing of the Al Qaeda network wants a war between civilizations, wanting the US to attack the Afgan's to restore them to militancy, but all over the world is sturring up hate. Hillary will be like a bull in the China shop.

I don't want to harp on Isreal, because the possibility that the West will end up saying "its all Isreal's fault" gives bin Laden hope that is goals are rathional.

Though the author scared me a little when she talked of Hukelbee's belief in Armageddon. Everything else she said made me want to support Hukebee more.

Johovah Witnesses believe in Armageddon, but don't believe in voting rather than risking voting for someone who will make Armangeddom come sooner.

I will look for signs that Hukelbee believes that returning the world toward peace is hopeless, other wise I will support Hukelbee fully as someone who can bring peace between cultuures, and help the downtrodden in the US as well.

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This guy has nothing on Ron Paul. And Alternet is blindsightedly dogmatic in their coverage of Ron Paul. He is one of the best chances Americans have ever had of getting somebody actually half decent into the white house. Working brothers and sisters unite!

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Matt Taibbi's article shows that he is the real lunatic, not Mike Huckabee. His attack on Huckabee's appearance, constant use of foul language and mean-spiritedness shows a lack of class and intelligence.

Personally, I think Huckabee would make a great president and many on the left are warming to him. However, if Taibbi doesn't like him, fine. Present valid arguments in a well written article. The fact that he stoops to such a low level of personal attacks shows that he doesn't have a strong argument.

I've researched Huckabee rather extensively because I wanted to know the true story behind some of the recent negative press and found that almost all of them completely misrepresented the facts. For instance, the claim of he and his wife registering under "wedding registry" to receive gifts when they left the governor's mansion was in actuality a small, private house-warming party given by friends of his wife who asked them to register for gifts. Dillards store at the time did not provide this category so they opted to register under the wedding category. This is just one example.

Some are put off by his Christian beliefs, but Huckabee doesn't want to force his beliefs on anyone, however, as a true Christian (not the Christian in name only variety) he does make decisions based on the teachings of Jesus--loving your neighbor, watching out for the little guy and protecting those who can't protect themselves (namely the unborn) with a spirit of humility. I will take that in a president any day over someone who makes decisions based on the daily direction of political winds. Huckabee seems to be a sincere, honest, man of conviction. Hillary Clinton seems interested only in advancing her political career--changing her tune to court whichever group she needs to appeal to at the moment.

A lot of comments about evolution have been circulating and I find it ironic that people who blindly accept evolution because they think most scientists and the media tout it, are just as flawed as people who follow any religion without investigating it for themselves. I've researched evolution and creationism and was astounded to find how fragile the theory of evolution is and that the 4 pillars it relies on have been disproved. There are many scientists that don't accept evolution anymore. Even Darwin had serious doubts about it. Believe what you want but at least investigate both arguments before claiming evolution to be truth.

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Huckabee is right..we did not come from monkeys...Monkeys are much smarter...Monkeys do not foul their own nests....how did this "we came from monkeys thing" get started any way...no scientist ever said that..they simply said that some where back in the millenia we may have had a "common ancestor" that several other species may have come from, besides monkeys and man...Scientists have also implied that "we" (people) probably had a common ancestor with bears and pigs...makes sense to me..? But I am not an idiot or a jesus freak

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I shake my head all the time at them prostrating themselves on the alter of Bush, O'Reilly, Rush...so sad, but also so scary because then they go and vote that way!

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The real danger isn't that Huckabee thinks the taxpayers should subsidize his gluttony (also a sin, by the way) or that he expects his subjects to furnish his house with tacky artifacts, but that he supports the neocon agenda of warmongering which is costing us in lives (over 4000 American and well over a million Afghans and Iraqis to date), money (at least 3 trillion, all borrowed, with the interest to be carried by future generations), the respect of the world, our constitutional rights and the rule of law.

This guy is a two-time huckster--a Southern Baptist preacher and Republican politician--who may not believe he is descended from a chimpanzee, but who certainly acts like one. Let's hope his trailer-park charm, so similar to Bush's, doesn't bamboozle enough gullible souls to elect him.

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It you consider the Federal Reserve and theIRS, both of whom are taking us down, as SANE, then BRING ON HUCK! Huckabee and the FairTax progressive consumption tax system will bring us back up and restore America's competitiveness in global markets.

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Once again I will point out the irony of people like Huckabee who believes in social Darwinism (survival of the richest, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, etc.) yet can't bring themselves to see the truth in the science of REAL Darwinism.

Simply an observation.

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"wild-eyed Baptist goofball doesn't believe he is evolved from primates"

Well of course he doesn't. There are no other primates back in the 'pod'. Quick, return to the mother ship, Mike!

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We didn't evolve from primates. All living things---including humans and other primates---evolved from a common ancestor. Please don't make a wackjob like Huckabee sound almost right.

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The reason these people are so charming is that they are all believes in their own Kool Aid. They are such good salesman because they are sociopaths. Almost anyone of a fundamentalist bent, be they Catholic fundies like Bill 'Reilly/ Hannity or evangelical fundies is that they are little more than snake oil salesman. Huckabee is no different.
They have so little to hang on to because down deep so many of them have no core values because non were put their by their parents, who themselves were ideologues. Ideology is a very poor and meager substitute for real values taught by real and especially Well Grounded parents. Parents who convey morals from purely ideologically driven backgrounds are themselves badly stunted.

So the world gets people like George Bush, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and thei r like minded ilk. They do not know reality from the fantasy ideology they were taught. If ideology is not very well grounded in a lot of reality, ie. there are consequences for actions, then we get drunkards and pill poppers like George Bush, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch and Glenn Beck etc. etc.

These are nothing more than damaged people who have risen to levelsof unrestrained power and have all of us by the throat or down lower and like the feeling they get from their lack of feeling/unfeeling minds. These are also the children of damaged parents. And they are qll to often people whose minds are low sensitivity minds.

I don't think the experts know fully exactly what causes the low sensitivity body/mind but they seem to agree that there are such people. No doubt it is a biochemical problem. Were these kind of people to suddenly take a pill that wouldgive them a fully sensitive mind/awareness they would suddenly stop emoting all over the rest of us normally sensitive and overly sensitive peoples. We would then be rid of their tyrannical behavior.

Their is nothing masculine and decisive about sociopaths/ low sensitivity/ high sensitivity personality types. And that type of person is everywhere in our society including at the very top of the heap including among the heirarchy of all religions.

And furthermore that is why these people so often live in the bubble mentality of their own minds. Top level religious leaders, like the Pope of my church the Catholic Church are not immune from suffering from these problems. Dos anyone not think that if the Pope were to live in Iraq among ordinary everyday Iraqi people AND COME FACE TO FACE WITH SUFFERING that he would be able to continue his support for the Republican Party and the immense damage they have done to the family of man and specifically the Iraqi people. Let the Pope live with our troops who also live with suffering and fears and dying and maiming and he qould stop in a minute his support and the right wing Catholic support for the Bushco.

The fact is the Pope lives in a bubble, he is VERY isolated. That is why when the American Catholic Bishops warned him about what the Republican Party mindset was all about he enjoined to be quiet and obey with his Pontifical Secrets authority. Just mix a little papal isolation with rampant ideology and a lack of humility and some sociopathic tendencies along with some over or under sensitivity and viola we have the Pope, both current and just prior.I know you aresaying they do get out and travel but do they actually leave the mindset of their ideological bubble. Methinks they do not.
And when I say live among the Iraqi people, I do not mean just for an hour or two while being protected by scores of US troops. Let all of them on the right wing live among the Iraqi people for a month andwith NO protection what so ever. Lack of protection raises ones fears and makes the experience way far more palpable. Cont'd below
In other words...

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... makes the experience way far more palpable.Cont'd...

In other words, all the people in power and who hold dominion and domination over the lives and well being of others should have to live among the others who lives they so deeply control. Then and only then can they begin to comprehend the consequences of their actions.

Other than when I am sleeping or listening to music or under the spell of the soporific ooze emanating from some fantasy television program I find myself in constant fear and horror at what these authority figures have thrown upon all of the rest of us.

Maybe that is why Christ chose to live among the everyday ordinary people and did not preach as much as He seemed to teach and explain.

That not only applies to Huckabee and the Pope but to all pols on the left and on the right. But it applies most especially to those on the right who function as a giant monolithic mahcine and who choose to force their beliefs onto the rest of us.

I don't care a rats ass what they think. But they don't stop at just thinking. They want to FORCE their mindset on me and take away my civil liberties, my unalienable rights as a citizen of the USA and a child of God.

They have no right to strip me of my Free Will, given to me along with my soul and coming from God himself. They commit the sin of PRIDE when they choose to take away my right to choose, my Free Will.

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For the longest time the GOP ignored this man. Yet, since the very beginning he most closely resembles, talks about, and spews the exact GOP party line.

What's up with that?

Mike Huckabee is a precise clone of the typical Republican voter. He has a rural mindset. He talks about Jesus whenever possible (and knows absolutely nothing about him), he turns his back on reality and science, he has a redneck accent.

Was it the fact that he actually had the guts to raise taxes in AR when it was necessary that turned the voters off to him at first?

Well, it looks like GOP voters are going back to their roots - finally.

You go, Mike! I wish you all the luck in the world. I hope you become the GOP nominee. I hope that elevates your background to much that journalists finally take notice. Then I hope that information is transmitted all around the world. I hope every educated person on the planet sees precisely who YOU are and exactly what the GOP is: the GOP is a religious party now. Ever since the so-called Moral Majority took it over in 1980 it has pushed out actual Republicans whenever possible and replaced them with religious nutcases.

The world needs to see what is happening here in the US because clearly we can't see it ourselves.

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There is a lot of misleading information floating around about Huckabee. He is a Republican, but he is not part of the Republican establishment. He is :
--pro-life, but he also believes we should care about life from the cradle to the grave
--supports the fair tax which would help those in the lower income groups
--he would push for finding alternatives to end our dependence on foreign oil
--believes Republicans should be leading the way in caring for the environment
--is against corporate greed (many of the attacks on him are from Wall Street Republicans)
--Strong immigration policies to seal the border but he believes in caring for the children of illegals who are already here, giving them access to schools and health care

I don't understand why the liberal crowd posting the comments are so anti-Huckabee when he is much more of a centrist than any other Republican candidate and is head and shoulders above anyone the Democrats have. Clinton is one of the most dishonest politicians that ever existed; Edwards made his money as a greedy trial lawyer and Obama is just too inexperienced (although he seems like a decent man).

I don't understand why everyone seems so angry. I disagree with Obama's policies but I would never attack him in the vicious way people have attacked Huckabee.

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Homo sapiens (ho´mo sâ´pê-enz, -ènz´) noun
The modern species of human beings, the only extant species of the primate family Hominida.

We not only share a common ancestry with primates, we are primates.

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Don't let the dog and pony show distract you. No single candidate for any given office can make a significant change in the path we're on.

A popularly run third (really second) party is needed. The Democrat Party won't help us out of the interlaced debacles of the energy crisis and catastrophic biosphere degradation.

The Oil Wars are coming.

Are you ready?

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Of Course Mike Huckabee is crazy, unless his religion is pure put-on and he is a
psychopath who discovered that religion is a good BUSINESS. My guess is that
he is both crazy in other ways and a psychopathic liar. Religion is a way to get
rich in this country.

Religion is caused by any one or more of about half a dozen mental illnesses.
The truth about religion can be found in these books:

"The Neuropsychological bases of god beliefs" Dr. Michael A. Persinger MD,
psychiatrist 1987 "Religious people are just like my temporal lobe patients"

"The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bi-Cameral Mind" Julian
Jaynes Professor, Harvard University 1976 "Religious people are just like
schizophrenic patients"

"The Psychiatric Interview in Clinical Practice" Roger A. MacKinnon, M.D.,
Robert Michels, M.D. W. B. Saunders Co. 1971 "Religiosity is a common
symptom [of] schizophrenic patients"

"The God delusion" by Richard Dawkins. "Religion is caused by a kind of
computer virus that infects the living computer, the human brain."

"The Science of Good and Evil" by Michael Shermer, 2004 "Morality and Ethics
are now in the jurisdiction of Science and greatly improved thereby."

Many books in the new science called "Sociobiology": Morals and ethics are
instinctive and they evolved.

"God: The Failed Hypothesis" byVictor Stenger Scientific proof that god does
not exist.

"The God Part of the Brain" by Matthew Alper 1996. "The USA is anomolusly
religious because many early founder groups were religiously insane and fleeing
prosecution in Europe. Religion is a genetic disorder."

"The Accidental Mind" by David J. Linden, 2007 Belknap Press of Harvard
University Press. Religion is caused by the extreme klugeyness of the "designed"
by evolution brain. In particular, the narrative creation system cannot be turned
off. It generates false narratives that are believed by the generating person. This is
seen in experiments done in the laboratory. This book has the best explanation of
resistance to evolution: "There has also been an assumption that if one accepts the
idea that life developed without divine intervention, it necessarily follows that all
aspects of religious thought must be rejected. Those who take this line of
argument to extremes argue that when religious thought is rejected moral and
social codes will degenerate and "the law of the jungle" will be all that is left. It is
imagined by religious fundamentalists that those who do not share their particular
religious faith are incapable of leading moral lives." These suppositions are not
true many times over. Linden later mentions that the creationists [intelligent
design advocates] are exactly 180 degrees wrong rather than just a little wrong.
Being exactly wrong, they are unable to unlearn their error. See Sociobiology or
Sciobio.

"Origins of the Modern Mind" by Merlin Donald 1991 "So what did you expect
from a brain that is based on the Chimpanzee brain? Furthermore, the 4 Million
years it took to go from chimp brain to "human" brain is much too short for
Nature to get the bugs worked out."

"Manufacturing Belief" by Lewis Wolpert
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/05/15/lewis_wolpert/

"Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon", by Daniel Dennett
Let's do scientific research on religion and find out what causes it.

Other authors: Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens

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If you want to know the TRUTH about life, the universe, humanity or anything
else, your only real choice is to go to college and get a degree in science. If you
want to know where the universe came from, you will need a post doctoral degree
in physics. If you want to know how mankind originated, get a degree in biology.
If you want to know about morals and ethics, study sociobiology. Science is a
method, NOT a religion.

As a sophomore undergraduate student in Physics, your homework may include
figuring out when the second coming would be required, assuming that the bible
was 100% true in the year zero. That is, when would the bible be down to 50%
true? The popular and professors' answer in 1965 was the year 500. The true
answer: A friend of mine was born and raised in Budapest, Hungary. As an adult,
he came here and stayed. After 25 years, he visited his home town of Budapest.
He was unable to communicate with his high school classmates because the
Hungarian language had changed so much. The correct answer is less than 25
years. The first gospel was not written down until 50 years after the alleged
events and then in a different language. The people who told the story were at
about the same level of civilization as "wild Indians", I mean Native Americans
before Columbus got here. We have all played or seen played the game called
"Telephone" in which a story is passed down a line of re-tellers. By the Sixth re-
telling, the story has no resemblance to the original. The gospel story had to have
been re-told at least 6 times before it was mis-translated the first time. [Note that
whoever wrote it down the first time was free to write whatever he wanted to.
The storytellers were illiterate and unable to check his written text by reading it.
Besides that, he wrote in Greek rather than Aramaic.] Conclusion: There is no
truth anywhere in the bible, and there never was.

ALL of the jurisdictions that were formerly in the jurisdiction of religion have
been taken over by Science. There is no longer a need to debate the issue.
Religion is an unfortunate side effect of a major and ongoing step in evolution.
[Not that evolution has a predetermined direction. We could devolve, but we have
to get over religion or go extinct. "God" will not save us from the consequences
of global warming or an asteroid impact because there is no such critter as "god.".]
Ethics and morality are instinctive, not derived from religion. Female instinct has
greater force in morality than male instinct because the female is in command of
the sexual encounter. Look up "Sociobiology". The origin of the Universe is the
subject of Cosmology which is part of astronomy which is part of the science of
physics.
Religion is a SCAM. ANY religion, there are 10,000 to choose from at any one
time. People keep inventing new religions [for the benefit of the "prophet," of
course] and forgetting other religions. ALL preachers, priests, imams, rabbis,
iatolas, etc. belong in jail for "grand theft, bunko type".

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Book: "Scientists Confront Intelligent Design and Creationism" edited by Petto &
Godfrey, 2007. Page 368:
1. "Creation science has grown out of a perception that evolutionary theory
threatens the conservative Protestant moral and ethical belief system."
2. "Creation scientists in practice follow a model of science that differs
dramatically from that embraced by modern science." Namely, everything has to
fit into a literal reading of the King James bible for them.
Page 372:
Leon Festinger's theory of Cognitive Dissonance: "Disconfirmation of a strongly
held conviction actually reinforces belief and leads to increased proselytizing
activity."

"The Science of Good and Evil" by Michael Shermer, 2004 "Morality and Ethics
are now in the jurisdiction of Science and greatly improved thereby." See
Sociobiology or Sciobio, the new science of morals and ethics as generated by
evolution.

Morals and ethics evolved and are instinctive. Religion is irrelevant to morals
and ethics, but greedy preachers want to keep their highest in their parish
incomes. Religion is a scam.

The religious right wingnuts cannot be changed by presenting them with facts.
Maybe the methods available only to psychiatrists would work.

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Thanks.

gary

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Discussion and discourse in our country has devolved to the point where "your beliefs differ from mine" = "you're a wacko nutjob."

There are a lot more people out there who agree with Mike Huckabee's religious beliefs than you'd obviously like to believe. And PS, evolution was, is, and will remain a THEORY. They've never found the "missing link" -- and they never will. See "Darwin's Black Box," mentioned above.

There's a reason people shouldn't get their "news" from Rolling Stone writers.

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I've been on both sides. Network media and national politics. 36 years. They're all nuts. My former husband was a member of Congress. I was a network radio and TV news anchor. I've seen it all and have no ideological agenda. I don't like any of them -Republican or Democrat. I was so bummed when Stephen Colbert was forced out of the SC primaries.

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Huckabee has some attractions that make him a dangerous Republican. I would like to see him answer the questions: who would Jesus torture? and who would Jesus bomb? and if he would why would you? why would you want to be come the American Caeser i.e President if you are truly a Christian? Huckabee's fault of corruption is worrisome and makes me think is may be a false prophet like the Pharisees most Republican politicians are. Huckabee may be better choice for America than other Republican candidates including Ron Paul who is good on foreign interventionism but little else. Huckabee is only Repugnant one who doesn't seem to be a Social Darwinist to me and might be more concerned with human welfare than crony capitalist welfare.

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I don't think including Dennis Kucinich with Huckbee and Ron Paul was accurate. True, he's a long shot who has strong populist support, but that's because he's right on most issues and would make a good president. He's not a nut like the other two.

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I would like to thank all who made comments to this important article. I include even the "whack jobs" who weighed in.

I read each and every posting carefully and it was quite a chore. It took most of my day. I had chores that my wife had assigned to me that I just shrugged off. I have to get up early tomorrow and try to fake it at least.

My own opinion that someone like George Bush could actually be the president or that "Huck" could be a real contender for the same job is a fact and it has made me suspicious of my fellow citizens...especially those that vote for people like Ronald Reagan, Dick Nixon, George Herbert Walker Bush, George Bush and now contemplate voting for any of the unprincipled whack jobs currently running for the republican nomination. I have to spend a lot of time meditating and contemplating the Buddha Mind in order to maintain my own sanity in the face of these bloody murderers.

Knowing that there are others like me out there (and here in my own neighborhood...who are all Dems) helps immensely.

Keep On Keeping On Everyone!

Joseph

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