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Is Our Worship of Consumerism and Technology Making Us Depressed?
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U-Turn from the Wisdom of the Ages
Throughout history many seekers, thinkers, and prophets have taught about overcoming despair. However, it would be difficult to top the greatness of Buddha, Spinoza, and Jesus. All three were rebels and heretics. All three rejected societal norms and religious orthodoxy. Buddha rebelled against both the caste system and religious rituals. Spinoza rebelled against hypocrisy in his community and certain aspects of accepted theology. Jesus rebelled against a materialistic society and religious authorities. Buddha gave up royalty and wealth, Spinoza was excommunicated and nearly assassinated, and Jesus sacrificed his life.
Buddha, Spinoza, and Jesus all came to a similar conclusion about despair -- quite a different one than that reached by the modern mental health establishment. Although each described it differently, Buddha, Spinoza, and Jesus concluded that the source of our misery is avarice, material attachment, and self-absorption. While each used different language, they all provided a path away from torment and toward wellbeing. Buddha taught how to release oneself from narrow self-interest and craving. Spinoza taught how to liberate oneself from greed and other irrational passions. And Jesus taught, very simply, about love.
Modern mental health culture classifies depression as quite a different matter from the despair spoken of by Buddha, Spinoza, and Jesus. However, while modernity has resulted in different sources of pain, human beings and their responses to pain can hardly have changed so dramatically. And so to believe that Buddha, Spinoza, and Jesus would have dealt only with mild and moderate unhappiness and left debilitating depression for future mental health professionals to tackle seems quite unlikely.
Buddha, Spinoza, and Jesus were not alone in their understanding of the importance of moving beyond self-absorption. In more recent times, their message has been echoed by many others, including psychoanalyst and social critic Erich Fromm (1900-1980). Fromm argued that the increase in depression in modern industrial societies is connected to their economic systems. Financial success in modern industrial societies is associated with heightened awareness of financial self-interest, resulting in greater self-absorption, which can increase the likelihood for depression; while a lack of financial self-interest in such an economic system results in deprivation and misery, which increases the likelihood for depression. Thus, escaping depression in such a system means regularly taking actions based on financial self-interest while at the same time not drowning in self-absorption -- no easy balancing act. In Fromm's culminating work, To Have or to Be? (1976), he contrasts the depressing impact of a modern consumer culture built on the having mode (greed, acquisition, possession, aggressiveness, control, deception, and alienation from one's authentic self, others, and the natural world) versus the joyful being mode (the act of loving, sharing, and discovering, and being authentic and connected to one's self, others, and the natural world).
Fromm's penetrating social criticism of an alienating society resulting in increased depression was, during his lifetime, widely respected by many mental health professionals. Today, however, the mental health profession has come to be dominated by biopsychiatrists: those who see depression as a matter mainly of brain chemistry. Fromm, if alive today, may well have labeled this as "microscopic self-absorption." And he most certainly would be sad that mental health treatment has increasingly become a component rather than a confrontation of modern consumerism.
Technology Worship and Scientific Sham
The faith of our culture is that technology is omnipotent. On my way to getting a PhD, I learned about behavioral technologies, about cognitive technologies, and about biochemical technologies. I learned to think about depressed human beings as broken objects that needed to be fixed. After experiencing the futility of this type of approach, I learned a completely different way of thinking.
I do not oppose technology per se. I merely oppose the uncritical worship of it. My concern is not unique; it echoes that of Ralph Waldo Emerson, Lewis Mumford, and many others. Human beings have always had technology of sorts -- some sort of tools and techniques to make their lives easier. The difference today is that technology has increasingly become the supreme value of American culture.
Technology is all about control, and the more we Americans singularly worship technology, the more we singularly worship control. Our society is increasingly dominated by megatechnologies -- huge, complex technologies that most of us neither understand nor can control. Human beings pay a psychological price for any technology that controls them more than they control it; they can actually feel more powerless. And the feeling of powerlessness is highly associated with depression.
Uncritical worship of any value or belief leads to extremism and fundamentalism. Henry David Thoreau, another early critic of technology worship, lamented, "Men have become the tools of their tools." He knew that a society that worships technology would spend little energy assessing its ultimate value, resulting in what he described as "improved means to unimproved ends." Beyond its attribute of control, technology has no meaning, and if people singularly worship it, they will have meaningless lives. A meaningless life, like a powerless life, is a depressing one.
The consequences of technology fundamentalism are no less comical and tragic than the consequences of antitechnology fundamentalism. The belief that technology is the solution to all of life's problems is no less naive than to believe that technology is the source of all of life's problems.
American mental health culture has increasingly become a technology fundamentalist one. Drugs have become a first option for many doctors, electroconvulsive therapy has made a comeback, and psychosurgery is no longer frowned upon. Technology fundamentalists demand speed and efficiency. By the early 1990s, two-thirds of doctor visits were less than fifteen minutes, and a 2001 RAND Corporation survey revealed that the majority of physicians were diagnosing depression in less than three minutes. In a culture that worships speed, I suppose this is considered progress, but a culture that truly respects life would view this quite differently.
In a society that worships technology, the authority of science provides any given technology with legitimacy, and so there are great incentives to convince the public that the techniques used to measure depression are scientific. However, the technology for assessing depression lacks the basic elements of science -- including objectivity and verifiability.
One of the most common depression measurement techniques used in researching the effectiveness of antidepressants and other biochemical treatments is the Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression (HRSD). The HRSD was the primary measure of depression in the NIMH STAR*D study, and it is routinely used in antidepressant studies evaluated by the FDA for drug approval. However, even the American Journal of Psychiatry, the American Psychiatric Association's own journal, concluded in 2004, "Evidence suggests that the Hamilton depression scale is psychometrically and conceptually flawed." And the Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology noted in 2005, "When looking closely at the construction and content of the HRSD, it is clear that this is a flawed measure." When legitimate scientists examine the HRSD, they immediately notice its biases in how depression is defined, the arbitrariness of a point total for qualifying a person as depressed, the arbitrariness of what qualifies as remission of depression, and the subjective nature of how responses are interpreted and evaluated.
In the HRSD, clinicians and researchers rate subjects, and the higher the point total, the more one is deemed to be suffering from depression. There are three separate items about insomnia (early, middle, and late), and one can receive up to six points for difficulty either falling or remaining asleep; however, there is only one suicide item, in which one is awarded only two points for wishing to be dead. The HRSD is heavily loaded with items that are most affected by psychotropic drugs, and thus it is not surprising that pharmaceutical-company-sponsored researchers use the HRSD in their antidepressant studies. And it is therefore especially damning for antidepressants that even with such measurement dice loading, these drugs routinely fail to outperform placebos.
Even with depression measures that reflect the standard psychiatric view of depression more accurately than the HRSD, there are interpretation problems. Standard depression symptoms such as depressed mood, loss of interest and pleasure, sleep difficulties (too little or too much), activity difficulties (agitation or lethargy), lack of energy, guilt and self-reproach, poor concentration, indecisiveness, and suicidality are not objectively quantifiable in a scientific sense (and weight gain or loss, a standard symptom that can be objectively measured, is routinely assessed via interview -- without a scale or baseline weight). I have talked to people who, while eating a sandwich, report that they have no appetite, and I've talked to others claiming a good appetite who in reality have not eaten in days. People routinely deny they are suicidal when they are in fact so, and vice versa. And I've known people who had poor concentration because they were passionately in love, and people with excellent concentration who were considering suicide.
There can be some value in interviewing or polling people on their subjective experience of "unhappiness," "depression," or "number of depressive episodes" and comparing the responses of different populations. However, only someone who knows nothing about the objective nature of real science could take seriously an arbitrary point total on a subjectively interpreted questionnaire and conclude it to be a scientifically conclusive criterion for diagnosing a person as suffering from the disease of depression (or declare that another arbitrary point total is scientific evidence for remission from the disease of depression). Yet such is common practice in the mental health establishment.
A worship of technology rather than a respect for its power and limitations has also resulted in denying or ignoring phenomena that are obviously nonquantifiable. However, if one dismisses all phenomena that are not measurable, some of the most significant aspects of humanity are simply not discussed. Science cannot accurately quantify the emotional impact of a given trauma on any given person or the love required for healing that wound. And authenticity, spontaneity, compassion, and other variables involved in morale and healing are too subjective to be captured with any scientific certitude. But rather than acknowledging the limitations of quantification, powerful nonquantifiable antidotes to depression are too often simply neglected.
The Unhappiness Taboo
There are many possible reasons for the increasing rate of depression among Americans, but I believe that one important cause is a culture that demands happiness. The pressure to be in a good mood can make people ashamed of not being in one. This "pain over pain" can then result in normal low moods becoming prolonged bouts of despair.
Why did this unhappiness taboo take hold so strongly in the United States? One possibility is a societal distortion of the right to "the pursuit of happiness," which has come to mean the expectation of being in a good mood all the time. The irony here is that the signers of the Declaration of Independence signed their death warrant had the American Revolution failed, and it is difficult to imagine Thomas Jefferson telling them, "Don't worry, be happy." It was once accepted that experiencing uncomfortable feelings was often necessary to achieve an ideal.
The unhappiness taboo has dominated the United States since it became a nation primarily of consumers rather than citizens, a gradual process that accelerated with the ascent of advertising in the beginning of the 1900s, and which dramatically spiked with the consumer boom following World War II. The belief that people should be either happy or trying to be happier is a fundamental principle of modern consumerism -- the never-ending search for products and services to bring happiness and prevent unhappiness.
In a culture of consumerism, people are forever trying to buy happiness, and sellers are expected to appear happy so as to inspire confidence in what they are offering. There are few businesses that are not in some sense selling happiness or the relief from unhappiness -- and thus there is enormous pressure to maintain the appearance of happiness.
The perversion of the pursuit of happiness to mean that it is our duty to be chronically upbeat has, according to psychologist and journalist Lesley Hazleton, resulted in the labeling of anxiety and depression first as weakness and now as illness. In 1984 she published The Right to Feel Bad, which confronts this unhappiness taboo: "Feeling good is no longer simply a right, but a social and personal duty. ... How are we to see depression as a legitimate emotion? How are we to avoid calling ourselves sick or wrong when we feel it? How are we to reclaim it from the clutches of those who claim that anything but feeling good is bad? ... Seeing depression as pathological -- that is, as illness -- is a useful way of invalidating it. ... If we were allowed to be depressed -- if we could allow ourselves to be so -- we might find it much easier to tolerate." Hazleton convincingly argues that depression is a normal human reaction, and if we cannot accept it, we become ashamed and alienated from ourselves, and this is what makes depression so lethal.
Is it the stigma of depressive illness that we need to eliminate, or rather the stigma of being depressed? Instead of viewing being depressed as weakness or illness, we Americans might better decrease depression by understanding it as a normal human reaction -- to be taken as seriously as all other dimensions of our humanity, but neither shamed nor pathologized. When people label a natural component of their existence as "sick," they run the risk of alienating themselves from a part of who they are, making that component far more problematic than it naturally is. By contrast, when we accept the whole of our humanity, we are often rewarded with greater joy -- and almost always receive increased wisdom about life.
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 26, 2007 1:45 AM
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The media constantly bombards us with bad news, then the commercial tells us there's something wrong with us if we're depressed...and that they have a drug that will make us happy again...so long as we don't mind bleeding out of our eyes, eternal vomiting, some types of leprosy, and other side effects.
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Posted by: Lector on Nov 26, 2007 2:57 AM
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Although I agreed with the thrust of the article, I wish Levine would not have use the word “worship” of consumerism and technology as part of the title and repeatedly throughout the article, when he said it himself that our culture is one of the causes. For me the infinite elements that make up our culture are probably the only causes and consumerism is only a consequence of technology. Since humans are always worshipping something it might be better to focus on the neurosis of our culture which is treating the symptom, when drastically changing our culture should be the priority. Of course, it would put the head-shrinks nearly out of business should our society reject consumerism and embrace humanism and spirituality. Highly unlikely.
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Posted by: talkville on Nov 26, 2007 3:41 AM
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Existentialists, such as Kierkegaard, treated the same syndrome in centuries past, giving the name more generally as "melancholy" or "alienation" or "angst". No different today except for the surface modifications and the increase in real numbers of those who must contend with the 'issue'. It's merely a fatigue that sets in after the zealotry and the 'hype'. The command: to be happy is a weighty one, as all commands which are delivered from the 'wise ones' above.
And, as usual, the "epidemic" somehow appears from nowhere and the "experts" are called upon to diagnose it and social-darwinists to instrumentalize it-- after all, it's a great source of money-making and money-taking. All it is is an effect of "The System", what else is one to expect?
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» Depression, however, is biological, and only medical treatment can combat it.
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Posted by: whoopingcrone on Nov 26, 2007 4:21 AM
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1. tell yourself a story or make a mental movie about something you consider "sad".
2. tell yourself that something should be done to change this sorry state of affairs to a cheery state of affairs.
3. tell yourself there's no way, and never ever going to be a way, to transform sorry to cheery, because... take your pick.
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Posted by: hagwind on Nov 26, 2007 5:13 AM
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I slipped into pretty bad depressions a couple of times in the first half of my life but (with a lot of help, none of it "professional") eventually managed to recognize the danger signals before my downward spirals got out of control. My two most important antidotes are "get moving" (physical activity) and "connect with other people" (community). These aren't panaceas, need I say, and they don't "cure" anything, but over the years they've made it possible for me to "keep on keepin' on" when I wanted to curl up in my head and give up.
Naturally, consumerism being what it is, ingenious companies keep coming up with ways to package and sell us physical activity and community -- not to mention happiness and a bunch of other stuff. Our mission (should we decide to accept it) has to include strategies for promoting the real deals, and on the most grassroots levels. IMO the grassroots religious right has done this a lot more effectively than we liberals, moderates, and leftists have: "capitalized" (so to speak) on people's deep longing for connection and meaning that isn't bound up with material "stuff."
Long time ago I learned that working for social change can be an antidote for impending depression, even when the odds against success were huge and even when we didn't "win." It had to do with camaraderie, and the creative ferment of a bunch of people working together, and the sense of possibility that seems to expand when you're moving forward. Oh yeah, and I'm pretty sure it also has to do with laughing a lot.
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William Wordsworth
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Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 26, 2007 6:38 AM
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"In American society, I believe we’re now in the late phase, the most deteriorated, decadent phase of consumer capitalism. When I say ‘consumer capitalism,’ I don’t mean simply the form of our economic life; I mean our whole culture. It’s not just a capitalist economic system. It’s a capitalistic culture, with personal lifestyles, values, morality, and meaning perceptions all in some measure shaped by this underlying ethos. And all this means that the value of the person is greatly underrated.
"People’s primal energies are fixated on commodities that are supposed to bring satisfaction of inner hungers. Through the suggestive and hypnotic powers of the advertising industry, a direct connection is made from very basic things which satisfy those needs; but of course they do not.
"Furthermore, the life pattern is pretty well set out through educational, occupational, and career structures which define for people the meaning of success in material terms, and in a way that people think that they’re making choices. But they’re actually being coerced and manipulated into a structure which really does not pay off in terms of genuine spiritual satisfaction.
"The result...is the creation of a lot of unsatisfied hungers and unresolved fears which turn into anger and violence. I think a lot of the violence in our society is a result of this...
"Ultimately, I become angry at the whole society that is the cause of my unfulfillment, and there’s a tendency to take that frustration out on other people. So I think the whole web of violence in our society is related to this in ways that are not explored thoroughly enough by psychologists.
"Now, from my point of view, what Christianity should be doing in this country is providing an alternative to this capitalist-consumer ethos, in terms of personal values and ultimate meaning. There are a few Christians who are doing it, but the vast majority of people who call themselves Christians are, in fact, completely caught up in this un-Christian value system."
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Posted by: jim_altman on Nov 26, 2007 6:54 AM
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It must be after Thanksgiving, because someone is telling me that I ought to feel guilty about wanting something more than I have and how I ought to be content with a candy cane and a lump of coal for Christmas. I'm sure the authors composed their heavy article on clay tablets with wooden scribes. It was depressing just to read it.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 26, 2007 7:31 AM
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Bonus, the people who otherwise can't tear themselves away from duhTeeVee or duhPeeSee would get more exercise, and wouldn't need to get so depressed about how badly the War on McDonald's progresses.
I'm fairly sure the rest of us can deal with a little bit of the blues by talking to our spouses, reading a book, going for a jog, etc. You know, enjoying life while the dishwasher does the drudgery work that some still pine for.
That's not to say that manual labor isn't rewarding--it is. There's nothing more satisfying than getting a moderately complex job done around the house, dusting your gloves off and admiring the finished results. I'm just saying that using technology--a cordless drill, or a chain saw--rather than gnawing on counter tops or medium-sized trees out in the back forty is more appropriate for me.
Have a blessed, productive and happy day!
(turn off that *&^% iphoney, junior, and visit with your parents)
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Posted by: peacelf on Nov 26, 2007 9:19 AM
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The other chimps were killed! It seems the anxious and depressed chimps were the lookouts for the group and sounded the alarm whenever danger, like a lion, was in the area. When those chimps were removed, the chimp social group lost its warning system.
Given the increase in anxiety and depression in america and the desire to medicate away the depression and anxiety, america's early warning system is being suppressed, so the warnings are ignored.
What should we be "protected" from is simple: we live in an empire! Living in an empire creates all kinds of dangers, including the occasional terrorist attack, but more importantly rampant materialism/consumerism, which, as Thoreau points out is disporportionate numbers of people live in "quiet desparation."
That "quiet desparation," I would add, is mostly amongst the middle class. They suffer from middle classism, which I would define as 'doing what you're told, so you can earn more money.' Mindless conformity is the rite of passage into the middle class, and of course, the more one conforms, the more one will be rewarded.
Indeed, an Oprah, or Michael Jordon, Tiger Wooods, could not be exploitable black entertainers if they would, say, speak out against racism, or show up In Jena to protest injustice. Mohammad Ali found out what would happen if you don't conform. Conformity means sacrificing your morals at the alter of materialism.
Those are the most egregious examples. Everyday people must put their morals and ethics in check to shop at WalMart, where the consumer can see the fruits of exploited labor and resources embodied in Low Low Prices. It's depressing to know our material extravagance comes on the backs of poor people around the world.
That's the price we pay for empire.
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Posted by: Thetorganization on Nov 26, 2007 2:24 PM
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Look at the advertising based towards women as an example. Through constant advertising techniques, women are basically sold an ideal of what they would like to be which in reality is a man's fantasy being sold to them. Why are there so many products devoted to all of the parts of a woman's body if companies (owned by men) didn't want to get across the idea that women aren't whole people? Even men have become emasculated by male-dominated consumer culture. Sold a concept of "manliness" that focuses on overt violence, the degradation of women, and the production/consumption of products and useless gadgets to make oneself more "manly" (in the cultural sense). Once an ideal is created, and people don't fit that ideal, they'll do everything they can to try to fit the ideal. Some go to extremes such as getting plastic surgery, becoming anorexic or bulemic, dying their hair, bleaching their skin, wearing different color contacts, and spending massive amounts on needless things that really serve a vanity purpose more than the fufillment of a need. And when they can't fufill any of these things, they give up and engage in even more self-destructive behaviors.
The volume on these seems to be turned up in the past couple of years, and it's effects on the young is very evident...to the point where the damage is starting to become irreparable.
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Posted by: Desert Ravengrrrl on Nov 26, 2007 2:44 PM
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I'll just say this: depression is the body's way of telling us that something is WRONG, something needs to change; and medicating the feeling away is NOT the answer.
(changing beliefs does help, so does healthy diet, lifestyle, and exercise. However, the pharmaceutical industry and psychologists, in their effort to help - because pharma employees really do want to help society - are going at it incorrectly and are ultimately hurting people.) Now I'm going to go outside, sit in the sun, and do some work in the yard...
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Posted by: aka_bozo on Nov 26, 2007 2:45 PM
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And, now that "communist" China is on the road to later-day capitalism, are they depressed? Or are they NOT depressed because they are entering post later-day capitalism?
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Here's another, longer article, that Easterlin wrote: link
One thing that I found interesting in the article was that the US economic folks seem to be very uninterested in his work. The Easterlin Paradox paper was lost in the stacks until a European economist "rediscovered" it. Sounds like the Europeans take happiness economics much more seriously.
Too bad for us Americans. The media and corporations have hijacked the discussion and will not allow our society to slow down and look out for itself.
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It is also the rabid and untempered capitalist system that promotes this and its propaganda that would like to make us think places such as France which don't practice rabid capitalism actually have such a terrible standard of living.
Of course what they don't want you to know, while they vehemently bad mouth the socialists, is that this much more sane approach to work and consumerism produces overall a much happier and healthier society. In France, the people are king and the quality of their lives matter. And there is no star worship nor sports star worship that even approaches that in America.
In Paris the shops such as pharmacies, departments stores, and everything save restaurants, close at 8pm. I never saw any 24/7 establishments. I did see beautiful, contented, and relaxed people who are not obese and who enjoy their long vacations as they should. After all, just what is it we're working for in life? Well of course in America, it is all for the plutocrats, whose relentless pursuit of profits produces an empty, stressed out, and fat society (with just two weeks of vacation, a ridiculously low amount of time off, and many in fear of taking what is due them) left to its own devices to deal with the incredible greed that capitalism produces.
It is a sick and soulless vision that they have and is it any wonder people are unsatisfied? They just don't get it yet - unchecked capitalism is full of holes and empty promises...in the end, greed just does not satisfy the soul.
Consumerism is like a legalized drug - it numbs Americans to the rip offs that are occurring every day by CEOS with their unjustifiable salaries and the stripping of effective government we have endured from the Frat (not White)House of rich playboys who think tax cuts are more important than infrastructure and building a great society for all.
The unhappiness and mental problems stem from the subconscious knowing the truth and doing nothing about it, except for more shopping. After all, that's easier than admitting you've been had and doing something about it.
Let's hope America wakes up soon. The mental health issues will be taken care of when the goals of society are sane, moral, and fair for all.
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1. We are immersed, truly drowning, in daily discourse of anger and despair and fear doled out by mainstream media, blogs (often delivered anonymously) and talk shows;
2. We either have so much in the way of materialism that we are able to isolate ourselves from community or are so impoverished that we become excised, like an infection, from it;
3. We are so mobile that we no longer have roots to put down, even if we could decide upon a place to establish permanency. This transience means there is no reason to become involved in community -- we'll soon be moving on. Rotary dies, and the Elks, the local garden club, young mothers groups;
4. There is no god greater than the credit card;
5. We are deeply terrified by our aloneness and fight it constantly with diversions of speed (of all sorts) and pablum (of all sorts);
6. Try this: Sit down around a dinner table every night for one week with family/friends, share food at a very leisurely pace, talk and listen and laugh. Wash the dishes together. My guess is that many people would experience a sea change in emotion. Folks, we need one another, not another iPod.
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As long as people continue to let outside forces (which the media is proned and honed to monitor & pass along) there will be a rush from one thing to another, one person to another, one belief to another. There is a balance to be had, a LIFE to be lived and it is made up of some of all the above things I listed as well as the BUZZ!!
WRONG ANSWER, when it comes to accepting that we are not going to be happy l00% of the time.
Other cultures have passed from one generation to the next some seeds for living that keep them much healthier individuals--though more often than not, it is in the back-to-community-relatedness that works. We have become a narcissist-driven society, incessently lacking in the ability to relax with ourselves and the lives we have created, forever charged by tv commercials/programs telling us we SHOULD BE happier, we SHOULD AND CAN LOOK YOUNGER, BETTER, and with their "whatever" we can and will be. And we buy it, hoping. There is no one way. There is a way and it must be found by each of us according to our connection with our inner self (that we are always trying to escape from).
A sense of well-being and sound health would be a good indicator of how well we are connecting and responding to the ideals of our nature as they are pummeled with shards of the current passing reality.
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on the subject, also written by a shrink, but better written, I think.
While he sees the role of biology and meds, he takes a holistic approach both to the roots of our depression as well as treatment.
Best of all, his suggestions work!
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The media constantly bombards us with bad news, then the commercial tells us there's something wrong with us if we're depressed...and that they have a drug that will make us happy again...so long as we don't mind bleeding out of our eyes, eternal vomiting, some types of leprosy, and other side effects.
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Although I agreed with the thrust of the article, I wish Levine would not have use the word “worship” of consumerism and technology as part of the title and repeatedly throughout the article, when he said it himself that our culture is one of the causes. For me the infinite elements that make up our culture are probably the only causes and consumerism is only a consequence of technology. Since humans are always worshipping something it might be better to focus on the neurosis of our culture which is treating the symptom, when drastically changing our culture should be the priority. Of course, it would put the head-shrinks nearly out of business should our society reject consumerism and embrace humanism and spirituality. Highly unlikely.
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Posted by: talkville on Nov 26, 2007 3:41 AM
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Existentialists, such as Kierkegaard, treated the same syndrome in centuries past, giving the name more generally as "melancholy" or "alienation" or "angst". No different today except for the surface modifications and the increase in real numbers of those who must contend with the 'issue'. It's merely a fatigue that sets in after the zealotry and the 'hype'. The command: to be happy is a weighty one, as all commands which are delivered from the 'wise ones' above.
And, as usual, the "epidemic" somehow appears from nowhere and the "experts" are called upon to diagnose it and social-darwinists to instrumentalize it-- after all, it's a great source of money-making and money-taking. All it is is an effect of "The System", what else is one to expect?
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1. tell yourself a story or make a mental movie about something you consider "sad".
2. tell yourself that something should be done to change this sorry state of affairs to a cheery state of affairs.
3. tell yourself there's no way, and never ever going to be a way, to transform sorry to cheery, because... take your pick.
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Posted by: hagwind on Nov 26, 2007 5:13 AM
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I slipped into pretty bad depressions a couple of times in the first half of my life but (with a lot of help, none of it "professional") eventually managed to recognize the danger signals before my downward spirals got out of control. My two most important antidotes are "get moving" (physical activity) and "connect with other people" (community). These aren't panaceas, need I say, and they don't "cure" anything, but over the years they've made it possible for me to "keep on keepin' on" when I wanted to curl up in my head and give up.
Naturally, consumerism being what it is, ingenious companies keep coming up with ways to package and sell us physical activity and community -- not to mention happiness and a bunch of other stuff. Our mission (should we decide to accept it) has to include strategies for promoting the real deals, and on the most grassroots levels. IMO the grassroots religious right has done this a lot more effectively than we liberals, moderates, and leftists have: "capitalized" (so to speak) on people's deep longing for connection and meaning that isn't bound up with material "stuff."
Long time ago I learned that working for social change can be an antidote for impending depression, even when the odds against success were huge and even when we didn't "win." It had to do with camaraderie, and the creative ferment of a bunch of people working together, and the sense of possibility that seems to expand when you're moving forward. Oh yeah, and I'm pretty sure it also has to do with laughing a lot.
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William Wordsworth
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"In American society, I believe we’re now in the late phase, the most deteriorated, decadent phase of consumer capitalism. When I say ‘consumer capitalism,’ I don’t mean simply the form of our economic life; I mean our whole culture. It’s not just a capitalist economic system. It’s a capitalistic culture, with personal lifestyles, values, morality, and meaning perceptions all in some measure shaped by this underlying ethos. And all this means that the value of the person is greatly underrated.
"People’s primal energies are fixated on commodities that are supposed to bring satisfaction of inner hungers. Through the suggestive and hypnotic powers of the advertising industry, a direct connection is made from very basic things which satisfy those needs; but of course they do not.
"Furthermore, the life pattern is pretty well set out through educational, occupational, and career structures which define for people the meaning of success in material terms, and in a way that people think that they’re making choices. But they’re actually being coerced and manipulated into a structure which really does not pay off in terms of genuine spiritual satisfaction.
"The result...is the creation of a lot of unsatisfied hungers and unresolved fears which turn into anger and violence. I think a lot of the violence in our society is a result of this...
"Ultimately, I become angry at the whole society that is the cause of my unfulfillment, and there’s a tendency to take that frustration out on other people. So I think the whole web of violence in our society is related to this in ways that are not explored thoroughly enough by psychologists.
"Now, from my point of view, what Christianity should be doing in this country is providing an alternative to this capitalist-consumer ethos, in terms of personal values and ultimate meaning. There are a few Christians who are doing it, but the vast majority of people who call themselves Christians are, in fact, completely caught up in this un-Christian value system."
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It must be after Thanksgiving, because someone is telling me that I ought to feel guilty about wanting something more than I have and how I ought to be content with a candy cane and a lump of coal for Christmas. I'm sure the authors composed their heavy article on clay tablets with wooden scribes. It was depressing just to read it.
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Bonus, the people who otherwise can't tear themselves away from duhTeeVee or duhPeeSee would get more exercise, and wouldn't need to get so depressed about how badly the War on McDonald's progresses.
I'm fairly sure the rest of us can deal with a little bit of the blues by talking to our spouses, reading a book, going for a jog, etc. You know, enjoying life while the dishwasher does the drudgery work that some still pine for.
That's not to say that manual labor isn't rewarding--it is. There's nothing more satisfying than getting a moderately complex job done around the house, dusting your gloves off and admiring the finished results. I'm just saying that using technology--a cordless drill, or a chain saw--rather than gnawing on counter tops or medium-sized trees out in the back forty is more appropriate for me.
Have a blessed, productive and happy day!
(turn off that *&^% iphoney, junior, and visit with your parents)
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Posted by: peacelf on Nov 26, 2007 9:19 AM
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The other chimps were killed! It seems the anxious and depressed chimps were the lookouts for the group and sounded the alarm whenever danger, like a lion, was in the area. When those chimps were removed, the chimp social group lost its warning system.
Given the increase in anxiety and depression in america and the desire to medicate away the depression and anxiety, america's early warning system is being suppressed, so the warnings are ignored.
What should we be "protected" from is simple: we live in an empire! Living in an empire creates all kinds of dangers, including the occasional terrorist attack, but more importantly rampant materialism/consumerism, which, as Thoreau points out is disporportionate numbers of people live in "quiet desparation."
That "quiet desparation," I would add, is mostly amongst the middle class. They suffer from middle classism, which I would define as 'doing what you're told, so you can earn more money.' Mindless conformity is the rite of passage into the middle class, and of course, the more one conforms, the more one will be rewarded.
Indeed, an Oprah, or Michael Jordon, Tiger Wooods, could not be exploitable black entertainers if they would, say, speak out against racism, or show up In Jena to protest injustice. Mohammad Ali found out what would happen if you don't conform. Conformity means sacrificing your morals at the alter of materialism.
Those are the most egregious examples. Everyday people must put their morals and ethics in check to shop at WalMart, where the consumer can see the fruits of exploited labor and resources embodied in Low Low Prices. It's depressing to know our material extravagance comes on the backs of poor people around the world.
That's the price we pay for empire.
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Look at the advertising based towards women as an example. Through constant advertising techniques, women are basically sold an ideal of what they would like to be which in reality is a man's fantasy being sold to them. Why are there so many products devoted to all of the parts of a woman's body if companies (owned by men) didn't want to get across the idea that women aren't whole people? Even men have become emasculated by male-dominated consumer culture. Sold a concept of "manliness" that focuses on overt violence, the degradation of women, and the production/consumption of products and useless gadgets to make oneself more "manly" (in the cultural sense). Once an ideal is created, and people don't fit that ideal, they'll do everything they can to try to fit the ideal. Some go to extremes such as getting plastic surgery, becoming anorexic or bulemic, dying their hair, bleaching their skin, wearing different color contacts, and spending massive amounts on needless things that really serve a vanity purpose more than the fufillment of a need. And when they can't fufill any of these things, they give up and engage in even more self-destructive behaviors.
The volume on these seems to be turned up in the past couple of years, and it's effects on the young is very evident...to the point where the damage is starting to become irreparable.
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I'll just say this: depression is the body's way of telling us that something is WRONG, something needs to change; and medicating the feeling away is NOT the answer.
(changing beliefs does help, so does healthy diet, lifestyle, and exercise. However, the pharmaceutical industry and psychologists, in their effort to help - because pharma employees really do want to help society - are going at it incorrectly and are ultimately hurting people.) Now I'm going to go outside, sit in the sun, and do some work in the yard...
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And, now that "communist" China is on the road to later-day capitalism, are they depressed? Or are they NOT depressed because they are entering post later-day capitalism?
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Here's another, longer article, that Easterlin wrote: link
One thing that I found interesting in the article was that the US economic folks seem to be very uninterested in his work. The Easterlin Paradox paper was lost in the stacks until a European economist "rediscovered" it. Sounds like the Europeans take happiness economics much more seriously.
Too bad for us Americans. The media and corporations have hijacked the discussion and will not allow our society to slow down and look out for itself.
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Posted by: CommonDreamer on Nov 26, 2007 8:57 PM
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It is also the rabid and untempered capitalist system that promotes this and its propaganda that would like to make us think places such as France which don't practice rabid capitalism actually have such a terrible standard of living.
Of course what they don't want you to know, while they vehemently bad mouth the socialists, is that this much more sane approach to work and consumerism produces overall a much happier and healthier society. In France, the people are king and the quality of their lives matter. And there is no star worship nor sports star worship that even approaches that in America.
In Paris the shops such as pharmacies, departments stores, and everything save restaurants, close at 8pm. I never saw any 24/7 establishments. I did see beautiful, contented, and relaxed people who are not obese and who enjoy their long vacations as they should. After all, just what is it we're working for in life? Well of course in America, it is all for the plutocrats, whose relentless pursuit of profits produces an empty, stressed out, and fat society (with just two weeks of vacation, a ridiculously low amount of time off, and many in fear of taking what is due them) left to its own devices to deal with the incredible greed that capitalism produces.
It is a sick and soulless vision that they have and is it any wonder people are unsatisfied? They just don't get it yet - unchecked capitalism is full of holes and empty promises...in the end, greed just does not satisfy the soul.
Consumerism is like a legalized drug - it numbs Americans to the rip offs that are occurring every day by CEOS with their unjustifiable salaries and the stripping of effective government we have endured from the Frat (not White)House of rich playboys who think tax cuts are more important than infrastructure and building a great society for all.
The unhappiness and mental problems stem from the subconscious knowing the truth and doing nothing about it, except for more shopping. After all, that's easier than admitting you've been had and doing something about it.
Let's hope America wakes up soon. The mental health issues will be taken care of when the goals of society are sane, moral, and fair for all.
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Posted by: BST on Nov 27, 2007 12:43 AM
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1. We are immersed, truly drowning, in daily discourse of anger and despair and fear doled out by mainstream media, blogs (often delivered anonymously) and talk shows;
2. We either have so much in the way of materialism that we are able to isolate ourselves from community or are so impoverished that we become excised, like an infection, from it;
3. We are so mobile that we no longer have roots to put down, even if we could decide upon a place to establish permanency. This transience means there is no reason to become involved in community -- we'll soon be moving on. Rotary dies, and the Elks, the local garden club, young mothers groups;
4. There is no god greater than the credit card;
5. We are deeply terrified by our aloneness and fight it constantly with diversions of speed (of all sorts) and pablum (of all sorts);
6. Try this: Sit down around a dinner table every night for one week with family/friends, share food at a very leisurely pace, talk and listen and laugh. Wash the dishes together. My guess is that many people would experience a sea change in emotion. Folks, we need one another, not another iPod.
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Posted by: freedomschild on Nov 27, 2007 4:32 PM
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As long as people continue to let outside forces (which the media is proned and honed to monitor & pass along) there will be a rush from one thing to another, one person to another, one belief to another. There is a balance to be had, a LIFE to be lived and it is made up of some of all the above things I listed as well as the BUZZ!!
WRONG ANSWER, when it comes to accepting that we are not going to be happy l00% of the time.
Other cultures have passed from one generation to the next some seeds for living that keep them much healthier individuals--though more often than not, it is in the back-to-community-relatedness that works. We have become a narcissist-driven society, incessently lacking in the ability to relax with ourselves and the lives we have created, forever charged by tv commercials/programs telling us we SHOULD BE happier, we SHOULD AND CAN LOOK YOUNGER, BETTER, and with their "whatever" we can and will be. And we buy it, hoping. There is no one way. There is a way and it must be found by each of us according to our connection with our inner self (that we are always trying to escape from).
A sense of well-being and sound health would be a good indicator of how well we are connecting and responding to the ideals of our nature as they are pummeled with shards of the current passing reality.
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Posted by: ty111 on Nov 28, 2007 9:06 AM
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on the subject, also written by a shrink, but better written, I think.
While he sees the role of biology and meds, he takes a holistic approach both to the roots of our depression as well as treatment.
Best of all, his suggestions work!
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Posted by: sweet_byrd on Nov 28, 2007 2:58 PM
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